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lampe berger? bullshit!!~




hmm.. i got test tmr.. but still not finish studyin it yet… not in the mood for studying i guess.. duno y.. slept at 7.50am this morning.. cos chatting on phone with gf… y? bcos some stupid fella trying to con her into lampe berger MLM thingy.. which is already proven is a scam.. her fren brought her for supper last nite.. n then with whole crowd of lampe berger fellas… n then.. huh.. i’m really impressed with their tactics… they asked her to drive their so called new car… BMW 5 series… n still she only found out its a tactic after i told her… its quite obvious when someone trying to talk u into some kind of multi level marketing thingy… n then telling u that he or she earned duno how many k’s.. each month.. n now.. he can afford to buy a new car.. wah… BMW 5 series… are u impressed??? wana join??

i managed to find a lot of info about this lampe berger thingy.. n yes.. its a scam.. something like those thingy that u light up in a room.. with the smell that can cure ur sickness… bullshit la… i even found a clip from HK TVB where those host went into the company to investigate wat the hell is it.. n then.. they even bought the lampe berger n test it in the lab.. it is said that the lampe can produce O. atom after burning it… n then.. then the atom.. O. combine with our oxigen.. O2.. it produces O3.. which is our ozon.. which can filter away all those harmful particles in the air.. n the results from the lab came out that the lampe cannot produce a single shit at all.. wana watch? there are some studies show that these kind of things is harmful to pregnant womens also.. not in the clip la… TVB clip.. cantonese.

y i’m so pissed off? i duno… i just dun like those ppl scamming other ppl’s money.. with all kind of bullshit.. if u really wan ppl to join something.. b honest.. at least let ppl know wat the heck is that thing.. the fren asked her to go to the company tmr.. which i insisted her to reject the fren.. but then.. they still have the strongest tactic.. claiming that they are ur fren.. hard for u to reject them right? so after hours of trying to reject her fren.. the fren ask her to go to the company to c wat he is doing all the time.. AS A FREN… bullshit.. really bullshit.. we’ll c wats gona happen tmr.. my gf promised me that if something turns wrong.. which a lot of other ppl in the company interupt to ask her to join.. she’ll just leave the place.. from wat i heard.. those ppl in the company will try to poison u.. saying that they earn how much money each month.. quit their job bcos this lampe berger is earning much more than their own job.. n then.. showing their so called luxury sports cars… which u dun even know it belongs to them or not.. they just rent it mayb? LOL…

friends… friends dun force their friends to do anything… friends are suppose to help each other when in need… not forcing u to go to the bullshit company n listen to bullshits.. wasting ur time.. what i saw in forums… those ppl who brought their frens into the company for bullshiting.. they are not frens anymore.. for example.. the Ecosway thingy… started by my fren in utm here.. approached me.. i say no.. that’s all.. no more topics about it… that’s wat i call frens… if someone say no to u for this kind of business… just stop it.. if u really felt that he’s ur fren.. no point of ruining a friendship bcos of something u think u can earn money from but he dun.. that’s a true friendship..

Updates 22 April 2007 – Malaysia’s Security Commission had listed out an alert list of scamming potential investment programs at http://sc.com.my/ . Lampe Berger was listed in the list but then was removed after a few days. What happened? I don’t know. And yet, newspapers had news about this fraud investments and LB is listed in there as well. So guys, those who kept on cursing around in this post comments, can you give us some reasons why LB is listed in those list? :)



  • Anonymous

    Hi there =)

    I accidentally stumbled into ya blog site when YahOo pumped out some search results under my query for “Lampe Berger Malaysia + con”. First off, I’d like to say I agree with you and sympathize with what happened to ya girl as the EXACT same thing happened to me yesterday. Friend I hadn’t seen in years called me out for a drink claiming it solely for the purpose of rebuilding ‘bridges’ and WHAM! I found myself locked into an hour’s worth of ‘friendly’ persuasion. Of course I said no. You seem to know alot about the events that are happening behind the scenes at LB. I was wondering, could you share with me your opinions on why u think its a con? I want to save some of my friends as well before they make a big mistake which they’ll regret later. THANX

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/12062044 ^||DaReDeviL||^

    Seems like there’s still ppl reading my old blog~ lol.. LB.. hmm.. actually i’ve stated my opinions in the blog right? they’ll use all kind of tactics just to lure ppl to join. A lot of ppl got scammed bcos they are just way too greedy. Lots of them were persuaded to join with very large ammount like RM30k to be at the top level. Sorry I forgotten the name of that level. Do watch the video i posted as its very informative but its in cantonese only. I just hope these kind of MLM can be banned out of malaysia someday. Its poisoning those youngsters out there~

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/19271300 Lampe Berger Help
  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/19941173 Edenyenlb

    i felt really sorry for those who dont understand this business that is pretty much normal bcoz if isn not for u guy there wont be a market for those who want to success in this business why pretty much aesy there is a very working system is proven to be success it is call (SYN)Steven Yeam Network just follow his method with dedication that u want to be success there u got it with hardwork and your sincerity in this business i personnally anssured u will be success if u are a member of SYN .For those whose has been though they have been cheated u r not been cheat because u fail why do u fail is bcoz u gave up just like a soldier raise a white flag before the war even started yet .Trust me u are not been cheated by SYN .DONT GIVE UP ON THIS BUSINESS .For you all there is a information that i wanted to share is that TVB CLIP is totally a set to destroy the reputation of the company .TVB hk has been sue by the company and pay a amaount of compensation to the company already.And in hk ICAC ha been investigate the company is not a pyramid or liar company if that can calm u .M any negative came from those people is bcoz the dont understand about the whole thing.THINK BEFORE U ACT!!!!!

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/19271300 Lampe Berger Help

    eden,

    Think before you post.
    Think before you accuse…

    Do more research why people quit.
    Why people just don’t do.
    Why there so many problems.

    If you are among the top management, you will know alot.

    But being you below the tree, you might not find out so many things.

    Dig more about the company…
    and.. you will find more and more loophole..

  • Anonymous

    Mathematically it just can’t sustain for god sake.

    It is just a cycle of ppl cheating ppl.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/18882668 crazysocket

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  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/18882668 crazysocket

    eden.. we need proof ler to show it to ppl.. do u have any? let’s find it out together k?

  • steven yip

    good

    The more bad pr for LB, the beter.
    My brother just joined..now want my dad to fork up (KWSP money) 30k.

    Basically, 30k is just to get to Count Level (so you get higher % from coning others).

    This is a scam. We need to tell the Pengguna on this bullshit scam.

  • steven yip

    oh ya, to Eden. There are some questions i want to ask.

    1. Why the joining fees is so high? RM 2345 for a franchise level. Other MLM companies are not so “greedy”.

    2. Why is there a system to go up straight to COUNT, for 30,000. Isn’t it obvious the DCHL company is sucking up so much money? From my bro who joined, he mentioned 95% of LB guys have paid 30k. There are 65,000 (according to one of the LB members) in Msia. Do some rough math here…

    65,000 x 0.95 x 30k = 1,852,500,000 RM

    That is 1.8 Billion in sales for that shitty company.

    Can’t you see what’s the reason behind those upline can drive BMW, merz, ferraris…coz they are sucking in so much money, at the expense of the society…

    That’s all..

    FYI, if I meet any LB fellows, I will tell them my mind…no matter whether he’s Steven Yeam or not..

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/20699446 louis85

    my gf has recently joined .., she has argued with me how do i stop her … this is really a bullshitting company ,super brainwash … omg!!!!!HELP ME out anyonE ??

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/20611304 Steven Yip Network

    ask your gf to go visit

    http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com/

    It happened to my bro..i really dunno how to convince him otherwise.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/21922097 i love lb

    hahaha….dun listen 2 people up there. u listen 2 a failure u also become a failure..hahaha..dun put ur future on their hand…all this people r stupid…and din think wanna earn money by them selve…lampe berger is da best way 4 u 2 earn money by ur self and its not 4 figurs or 3 figurs..all r 5 figurs..hahaha…so fuck all da people who anti lb…fuck them from head to toe…fuck da whole family…mutha fuckers …adios!!!

  • Anonymous

    FUCK U ANONYMOUS…^ daredevil FUCK u 2…hey fuck ur mother la…fucker u duno bou lampe berger and u talking wat..crap?? telling cock stories…hey bastard dun u think of earning money ur self ah??? dun fel shame askin money from ur parents everytime ah??? wei son of a bitch wat the fuck u know bout lampe berger ah???…u all telling lampe berger whole bunch of idots driving expensive car..but u duno whether they buy or rent rite???..it doesnt matter at least they driving a expensive car no matter rent or they buy…but wat u driving??? kancil?? wira?? hey come on la?? kancil wira called car ah???hey stupid daredevil mlm is not band in malaysia la u son of slut…binary system banded in malaysia la stupid dum fuck…daredevil fuck ur mom bitch…make money by using ur mom…hahahaha…cool…FUCK EVERY 1 THAT FUCK LB…SOONER LATER ALL DA PEOPLE WHO FUCK LB WILL BE CRYING BY LOOKING AT THEIR FREN WHO IN…TRUST ME LB MEMBERS….I LOVE LB…LB IS MY LIFE…STEVEN YIP..HEY CAN I FUCK UR MOTHER FIRST??? HEY IDOTS U TELL LB MEMBERS DUNO SPEAK ENGLIS VERY WELL..NVM LA..AT LEAST THEY ADVANCE THEN U EARNING 5 FIGURS PER MONTH…AND U?? I GUESS 0 FIGURS RITE??/ COZ U R A FAILURE SLUT…TRUST ME NO MEANIG 4 U 2 LEAVE..GO N DIE FASTER..K???MEET LB PEOPLE WANNA TELL WAT??? TELL LA NOW BASTARD…FUCK UR MOM STEVEN YIP…FUCK FUCK FUCK..THEN LET OTHERS ALSO 2 FUCK K??

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/12062044 ^||DaReDeviL||^

    hi annonymous, i assume you are one of the LB members? If you are trying to make a good impression out of it, stop fucking around. Show us facts but not all the “fuck” words k? I do know some ppl who are earnings lots of money in LB. If I were them, I’ll be ashamed because of members like you, making bad impression of LB members. And I’m not a LB member, which I felt ashamed of ppl like you posting in my blog. How old are you anyway? Show us who u are and not hiding under the name of annonymous and fucking all around here. Grow up man~!

  • Anonymous

    hey fuck u la…i dun give a fuck….tis ur blog or ur fucking moters blog or ur fucking fathers blog i dun givea dem bout it….who the fuck r u 2 ask my age??? u not ma fuckin fren??? do i know u in da first place..grow up??? telling me??? fuck u in the first place la bitch…u grow up first la mutha fucker…i dun need 2 show my self…who r u 4 me? not my fren..if my fren then i show my self la….hey why im talkin 2 u ah??? i dun like 2 talk 2 failures…i dun like 2 talk 2 shemales….stupid son of a whore…

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/12062044 ^||DaReDeviL||^

    Why r u talking here? because you’re an idiot after all. Show us some proofs and not fucking around like an idiot here~ an idiot that thinks his talking to failures.. real idiot

  • Anonymous

    Hey man…acctually, i don’t wanna give comment about it…but i just feel damm fuck up when u step on our foot..Can you fork out such big amount of money to buy your dream car just to bluff ppl..U DREAM ASSHOLE!!!! We buy the car is because we earn the money with our bare hand for 24 hour a day..and the car is to reward ourself..only can do it in LB…Go out and work u fuck ass…pls work your shit out for the rest of life to buy u a sport car…maybe can’t even afford to get loan by the time u retire… KISS MY ASS BITCH..WE WILL ROCK SINGAPORE ON 8 JULY 2006 BUDDY!!!

  • The LORD

    hey mutha fucking daredevil why dont u come 2 our company ah??? coward!!!..no cock?? where’s ur guts ah??? come 2 our company la…dchl..at hla building..next 2 orange club..150 meter from klcc…u got my point..ur r a failure man..trust me..dun fuck wit us u young ass…u asking for trouble slut…dun make us pissed off k?? dun get ur ass woooooped 4 talking cock k???…dont do bullshit k?? go n try 2 find a way 2 earn money la mutha fucker..dun waist ur time k??… if u really wanna fuck with us u son of a bitch why dont u come 2 our company???…grow up man!!!…dont even know lampe berger properly n u start talking cock…haizzz…o my god..tis kind of people also got in this world…lastly im telling u again…em..not telling..im warning!!!!! u again..dont try 2 fuck wit us!!!!!!!!!…shut ur fucking mouth and mind ur fucking own business…we dont go and disturb any 1 unless them come and disturb us…we always mind our own business…u understand wat i mean rite???…and wat ever we doin is our own fucking problem…it’s not ur fucking problem..k???…so shut ur fucking mouth and stop talking cock….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Poison______

    hey wat shame lb members talking all da vulger words??? hey we actually good..we can be very good,polite,kind,helpfull 2 any 1…but..catch my word “but”…if we get mad…haizzz…we wil be really mad…why we get mad??? bcoz of people like u who simply post blog and simply talk bad bout lampe berger…that’s why we get mad…we all lb members din disturb u people…so u people mind ur fuckin own business…dont disturb us..k??? that’s good 4 every1…what ever we do is our prob…its not ur fuckin’ prob….

  • Be a *MAN*

    hahahahaha…i read all da blogs…so funny…hw ever u people dun like lampe berger also…u people write and tell bad things bout lb also…we lb members have no effect at all..we all still earn 5 figurs..hahaha…driving our dream car..hahaha…so for sure on da 8 JULY 2006 WE ALL GOING 2 ROCK!!!!! SINGAPORE…COOL!!!!!..MUHAHAHAHAHA…SYN SEE U GUY THERE!!!!

  • SON OF GOD

    daredevil..hw r u there???…act mlm is not as wat u think la my dear fren…got other mlm company cheat people but lampe berger dont..trust me…lampe berger dont cheat people…they showing the way 2 become rich..up 2 u whether u wan it o dun wan…but if u can please try 2 find out more bout lb..come 2 our company..we dont mind..can come and have a look…people say ‘seeing is believing’ so come and see ur self and make a decision…k??…dun mind people dont there really get mad already coz u talk bad bout lampe berger…my fren trust me…juz come and have a look at our company and get 2 know more bout our mlm concept…if u like then u can do..if u dont like then we dun mind…up 2 u my fren..ur future is in ur hand…sure u got dreams rite???? da best way i suggest u 2 make ur dream 2 become true is by doin lampe berger…trust me please trust me….i know u r a good guy..may be u talk bad bout lampe berger bcoz u got da negetif new from ur frenz or other people or who ever…but please dun trust and 1…u come and see it by ur self…then u make decision….can i ask u somethin??? do u mind if i brain wash u 2 make u become a millionair????? do u???…

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/12062044 ^||DaReDeviL||^

    Annonymous, if you don’t give a fuck, why come here fucking all around like an idiot? Do you know what’s the main problem of you guys? Its the attitude. I mean why fucking all around here without giving any facts at all? The more you guys do something like that, the more negative impressions you get. I’m just saying about the experience my gf had with some of the recruiters. Not all ok? I know there’s some who are good attitude in recruiting ppl into LB. Some are my friends as well. Why can’t you guys talk politely like son of god did? Oh ya, I won’t step into the building.. not a single step. I’ve been listening to the same phrase from LB ppl. Same actually. My experience, 3 LB members from 3 states, Penang, KL, and Johor, saying the same thing to recruit me. “Do you mind that I brainwash you to make you a millionaire? Do you want your parents to retire early? Do you want a BMW in early age?… etc etc..

    Then if I refuse it, same words again, ” nvm, at least there are some failures to serve us when we go restaurant for a tea… ” ” you’ll be regret when your friend get a BMW later.” why bmw? why not mercedes? why not ferrari?

    I know the business is good profit. I even know some who had made to marquee level. So stop fucking here and show some facts if you wana convince ppl. That’s how business do. Do you seriously think that ppl will believe LB is good by fucking here?

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/20611304 Steven Yip Network

    So much fucking around.

    Just go to my blog and do that. Not here.

    http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com/

    Thank You

  • BlackMetal Steed Rider

    sigh… wat a pity… this proves that certain LB ppl are just so retarded in EQ, who cant control their emotion, let alone anger.

    with all those fuck words around, well, what makes ppl think that they will be ur good upline? i’m sorry but if u found urself wana pull out from LB, these uplines will shut u out with all the fucks they can give you.

    join LB and i promise that u’ll get all the fuck arounds…

  • Poison______

    okei guy we put it in dis way…if u people dont talk bad bout our company..if u people din disturb us…we wont say all da fuck fuck word wan…the main prob is now u people…u people start 1st…u talk bad bout lb..u give negatif things bout lb…plz get 2 know more detaily bout lb…then u talk k???….dun juz simply say k?…go 2 da company…im not askin u 2 go 2 da company 2 gt brain washed…im askin u 2 go 2 da company 2 get 2 know waht is lb bout…be a real pro man..come on la dude…investigate first then u talk la buddy…dun juz simply say…haizzzz

  • aaron

    hi Anonymous,

    it shows how LB educate you guys, oh did you manage to get a degree. bet you suck at your degree, so u manage to con the shit out of ur parents money and join the network. sorry aunty and uncle. it pretty sad to see uneducated u r. lb can be categorize as masyarakat sampah. damn your really good at sucking steven yeam’s nipple = syn. enjoy sucking and stay in SYN but it sounds more like Sucking Yeam’s Nipple. :)

  • sucking yeam’s nipple

    we can see your gonna rock singapore 2006 but we are gonna spread our words and form a huge ANTI LB community in singapore.lets go anti LB community.ohh aaron reminded me of SYN sucking yeam’s nipple.lol nice quote aaron.

  • Anonymous

    It amuses me greatly that so-called businessmen from Lampe Berger resort to all sorts of vulgarities and profanities ad nauseum when challenged.

    I didn’t knnow the requirements to be a successful businessman was to be rude, obnoxious and threatening to others.

    Goes to show the level of maturity (or lack of it) of these wannabe millionaires :)

  • aaron

    yeap sadly but true, uneducated bunch of losers.

  • son of god

    suck steven yeam’s nipples???…good tell la wat ever u people wanna tell…we dun care at all…we uneducated also our monthly income is more then ur dad or ur mother or u ur self…tell la wat ever u wanna tell…say …wat ever u wanna say…do la wat ever u wanna do…how ever oso we still will rock singapore tis july…hahahaha…we syn members going in 2 singapore by polise escort…singapore police escort..and we going 2 have rav party there…hahahaha….wat ever u people say oso ah wee still driving a sports car and still getting our monthly income 5 figurs…so we dun give a dem…hahaha…syn goin 2 rock singapore tis july…see u guy there…

  • Anonymous

    Hi guys,

    U gotta pardon this SOB from SYN, coz I thk his nut is a bit loose up there. Well 1st of all I gotta admit tht I am a DCHL member and I understand the frustration of ppl who did not quite cut it out in MLM world. Its gonna take a hell of passion & commitment to succeed in any MLM business.
    For information, LB is just one of the product distribute thru MLM networking system by DCHL. As a product which is more than 109 yrs old, LB has proven it can stand the test of time as well continued being relevant to today’s world which is getting more & more polluted (just refer to the latest Times or was it Newsweek).

    All I can say is that some network within DCHL (u know who..la !!) abuse our company mktg plan and start conning ppl out of their hard-earned money and left tis ppl stranded wt all the goods on their hand. I am fortunate to have join a very good team who not only help me to build my organization but oso help & teach me how to sell my goods. And tis coming from a person who hated MLM for the most part of his life , I am pleased to say I joined a rite team in a good company.
    All I can say is if U guys come across any those ppl who say U can get rich quickly in LB but dun have the need to sell anything, my advice to ya is to get away from them as far as possible. Coming into any MLM, u must be prepared to work hard and most of all to change and definitely selling is & will remain the mainstay of netwok marketing company.
    Just my 2 cents worth.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/20611304 Steven Yip Network

    hi anonymous,

    Could you check with the company, why the loophole is still there?

    Is it possible they take it off?

    If not, people will just misuse it.

  • Anonymous

    Well its not really a loophole, but there r some ppl (esp those that rise very fast…eg the latest couple from JB), who after ppl has taken the option to join….did not help/assist/guide them to sell their stock. Most of tis gp ppl will stay in the company office (their pedestal) and wait for their downline to bring ppl and spk to them.
    Well unlike them, we have uplines who will follow us around all M’sia just to help us wt our sales and at the same ensure we make less mistake & will learn directly from them.
    As for our company mktg plan…all I can say it is very simple & straigthforward unlike some other company who offer multiple plans like plan A & B, thereby confusing distributors/end-user and at the same time that
    boasting they pay-out more than 74% or 75% ….when in fact the plan if u calculate carefully is less than 60%(maximum). In fact MLM plan is just simple mathematic model , the basic ingredient for success lies in how big your organization is.
    In order not to be misled, ppl need to realize that there is no free lunch only thru hardwork, commitment, continuous self upgrading & consistency is the only way to succeed. But most important as distributor we should/must never neglect our downlines, while downlines should oso play his/her parts by putting in effort & cooperating wt upline.
    JMHO

  • Jefferson Young

    yeah, i believe there is still some good apples in the company. It is some retard that misuse the marketing plan and want to earn big bucks with the shortest period of time.

    I couldnt believe LB is recruiting all these shallow minded yet agressive teens.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/20611304 Steven Yip Network

    Well, here lies the biggest problem for DCHL lampe berger

    Your marketing plan can be misused.

    We have Count Generation/Recruiting Bonus, Marquis Generation/Recruiting Bonus, Duke Generation/Recruiting bonus.

    And all this bonus only applies if you are Count and above. And to get there fast, pay up 30k.

    It’s straight forward easy to understand, all these bonus will drive heavy recruitment, while neglecting the products selling.

    In fact, Marquis just need to maintain personal sales of 20,000 PV, while his legs go and recruit more Counts. They have to, caused they themselves did that. And this is the only way to get back their money.

    Marquis can earn 5 figures easily.

    Yes, you do need a lot of hardwork to reach that level, but working in an unethical business plan, it doesn’t matter how hard you work. It’s just plain wrong.

    If I were in DCHL LB, I would voiced this up to the management. Do something about it. Stop the Cut Count thing.

    At least this can ensure LB members to try to sell the lamps, and not getting the next sucker to invest 30k blindly.

    I doubt a lot of teens wants to sell lamps for a living.

  • Anonymous

    I understand ppl frustration. Well despite all this negative feedback, DCHL mktg plan does use the business model as its backdrop. A lot of ppl thk coming in as Count will automatically means success, well the truth be told coming in as Count requires the individual to be more hardworking & also be more responsible, and not forgetting to leverage on upline’s help (sorry fr those SYN folks, ur upline is busy booking their seat at their castle,HQ 24/7…so the only way is to bring the cow back to HQ,).
    Back to mktg plan, just like in business world, when u buy a larger stock…ur supplier will oso offer bigger discount, but the diff are in not having to undertake heavy liabilities such as basic overheads i.e. employ employee or even pay for office rentals etc.
    Therefore the only to stop tis nonsense is to stop unethical org like SYN from abusing the system, but at the same time dun paint everybody wt the same brush coz there r still ethical distributors trying to earn decent living.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/20611304 Steven Yip

    Most of the time, the blames always lie on the people.

    Please look at the damn marketing plan.

    That plan is flawed. If SYN can exploit it, so can other XXN, or YYN do the same thing.

    If there are ethical distributors inside the business, I would suggest they quit, and go find real work.

    Not coning the shit out of our young people.

    Anti Lampe Berger

  • Anonymous

    Maybe ethical laywer should not charged >10K a case , maybe an ethical surgeon should not charge >15k a surgery , maybe an ethical governement servant should not take rasuah, maybe an ethical ppl like ur self should not give rasuah, maybe an ethical bank/credit card compannies should noyt charge more than 20% interest p.a , maybe an ethiical remisier should not work at all since we already can buy stocks online, maybe an ethical graphics designer should not charge at all since it does not bring value to our , maybe an ethical accountant should not help those big tycoons hiding their money from taxation coz there r much poor ppl who still have not enuf to eat out there … maybe they r still ignorant ppl who still like to condemn the whole community despite the fact the the spoilt rotten apple like SYN does not represent the whole community….. U know what maybe we should kill all terrorist/extremist for world peace…is that really what u want ? then maybe u should be in politic…there would be a bigger platform/audience for your performance.

  • krissy

    Hi,
    I stumbled upon your blog while trying to get more info on L.B as a friend of mine keeps pushing me to join.
    I’m so scared to pick up her phone call everytime cos it would end up taking alot of my time and it’s all about “Don’t worry I’ll help you,we can really earn this huge amount and all you need is to join at SGD 1200 odd.
    To me I wont even fork out $50 a-day for food.what more to say $1200?
    I don’t want to lose my friendship with her but I don’t want to join smtg I don’t believe to work.
    I’ve been trying to avoid her since.every phone call is rejected and unanswered.I’m just tired of being drag to listen to this.

  • Sad_for_thesociety

    Most active ppl in LB are chinese educated.

    Most of them do not have access to these information on the internet.

    I joined them many years back, before LB even got heated up in Msia, but i left soon after i discover and understand about the business model.

    Steven Yeam is a great motivator.I love his speech, even till now, I still listen to his recorded live talks, it somehow gives me motivation to fight for my own dream. I’m having my own company in conventional business now. It’s hard work, but it may be satisfying at times too.

    Problems of LB lies in the marketing plan itself. These group of people simply use this opportunity to make big money out of it.

    A lot of innocent people did sign up and fork out rm30k without getting a clear picture of the business model. A lot lot of people run into problems because they lend 30k from other people like loans, ah long or family members.

    How can we create adwareness for more people ? Would you think starting a chain SMS on this helps?

    I think if 1000 visitor here can forward a awareness SMS to 10 of his most concern friends, relaitves and family members.. we certainly can put more innocent people on alert about the scam of this marketing plan.

    Directing your concerned once to antilampeberger/lampeberger help page would be good.

    Please do so for all your concern friends, family and relatives.

    Please sms to your young nephew..friends…as well. They are the one most prone to attacks from SYN now.

    Once mind of these young fresh grad being poisoned by them, it may ruin their entire life. Pls show concern for them and send a SMS awareness link to them.

    “http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com”

    Ask them to be cautious over this opportunity.

    Your SMS may save your concerned ones future.

  • please

    ok..i admit wat u all say can be argueable.. ppl againts lb, i silas liew ..asks u politely to please find out more n double check whether ur info is 100% facts ..im in the buisness n in steven yeams network ..im proud of it..he is a wonderful person..he could create tat plan wher ppl could suceed just like he did..some of u say tat the money ppl fork up goes to all the uplines , the higher status ppl..but evryone in the buisness is doin wat he does ..copycatin evry step ..if tis plan is a so called scam i would still follow it ..coz we are doin wat the rich are doin..mlm is the future buisness why? ask donald trump,microsoft,cocacola,gillete,air asia..please..and please again …no more talk about syn .. good i dun mind larr..haha natural mah.. but i ask u all one thing why got anti lb? why? bad things said are only said by the ppl who dun like something..ppl sudenlly gt nothin better do do n spread bad things ?? AND YEAH WE DID ROCK SINGAPORE.. I JUST CAME BACK ..I MET LOTS OF NEW FRENS HAD ALOT OF FUN THE WHOLE SENTOSA COULDNT HANDLE US..HAHA..CHICKS WERE HOT ..PPL FROM 11 CONTRIES WERE ALL THER ..I WILL NEVER FORGET THIS EXPERIENCE ..ONCE IN A LIFE TIME.. n we donated 100,000 SGD to the student care fundin .. for unfortunate students ..if u say tat its very little to wat we make ..at least we do ..SYN I LOVE U .. SYN members from IME i miss u guys ..see u next time ..dear partners plzz keep in touch ..silasliew@yahoo.com..

  • please

    and to those antilb ..respect others and they respect u..
    to lb members who were fuckin around ..u all were doin the right thing but the wrong way ..dun worry juz do it proper ..this month we get pv n next IME we all go sharing as marquis ..hahaha no duke better ..hey anti lb ..i honestly tell u its not a scam ..its not a waste of time ..it is proven ..logicly if it is it will already be rectified .. so ..to the guys who have girlfrens havin problems with their frens askin them to join ..if u dun like tat so much go to the company and end it once and for all ..go ther n see ..and tell it to our faces ..plzz peaple in the world faith is ther for a reason .. why so expensive ? its class products ..wat do u think ..? expensive merr ..for a francise buisness ..wat buisness can u do wif a cheaper modal than 30 k ..n guess wat 30k no more price increase to 36 k ..but no one can invest tat position anymore ..due to pace.. anyone not agreeing wif my statement can email or call me ..or we go yamcha .. im different i dun force orr talk cock i dun even like to talk markettin plan .. but i talk sense and wat is facts .. ok ..so all anti lb ..ur makin a big mistake ..rethink ..atleast ..to check it out again ,uve gt nothin to lose .. unless u all no balls which i trust tat none of of u will admit ..

  • cool_cucumber

    Daredevil, if you don have bmw don go bullshit around. you got money go rent or not first? Do you have a mother by the way?do us all a favor and fuck her hard. this is the first time i ever heard a boy friend dont want his girl friend got the chance to drive a good car. you jealous is it?

  • http://www.m3nghua.com menghua

    cool_cucumber, do you know how to read? read comments from silasliew. Professionals talk like that not like the way u posted. Talk to ur clients with that kind of manners and see what happens then. I noticed u guys like to fuck ppl’s mother… I seriously doubt u ever earn anything from LB. People will respect those like Silas.. not like u.. get a life dude.. go on and fuck around here.. and let others see what kind of response they’ll expect when they talk to u guys.. good luck dude

  • Wiser

    I don think that those people who were Vulgar are from LB, if they were SHAME on you, Have you not heard what are 555 system is. Be sincere!!!! You guys are the ones that is ruining our Network. You should be proud and promote LB instead of being an ass and mouth off profanities.

    As for antiLbs, please stop saying nonsense, about our Marketing plan and our beloved Arch Duke Steven. He has done nothing wrong, whats wrong in making millionaires out of ordinary people, you, yes even you antiLBs, when you join us you can be millionaires, all you have to be is to be Hardworking, not to be lazy and LISTEN and Follow, its a coy cat business. And no you dont have to fork out RM 30K to be successful, they are some who have made it BIG even though they came in as Franchisee and built from just RM 2345. Its a slow process but hey its also risk free, This business is not a scam, please, I run a successul business before I joined in, I did my due diligence, studied the marketing Plan and its a wonderful plan. and I have never regretted joining. We work HARD! and WE PLAY HARD! Ask any SYN members who were in SENTOSA. It was incredible and yes Silas, the Chicks were awesome. All 5000 business partner having a great and fantastic time in Sentosa.

    Please dont Assume, as we all know that Assumption is the mother of all F*&k ups!

    So if someone invites you to the office or have Yamcha, just go for it and see the plan, visit our wonderful office, SPA and Showroom and do you own due diligence and find out about our business. The plan, product and the culture of SYn is the best and faster way for having a very successful and enriching life.

    We never force anyone. We may be pushy but we never force. If someone were to force you just say no and move on. We just want to make your life more rewarding. Because when you make it, you will be glad that the person who brought you into the business cares for you and not your money. The comission we earn if you join is very low. But the turst we get from you is rewarding. this is a true way of network building, we build together, you are never alone. There are some irresponsible members who just do it for making the fast buck, they are the ones that tarnish our reputation. i dont deny that this is happening. So as I said before do your due diigence, an join the correct team that has the business mindset and the one that cares for you and your family. and dont ridicule you for the car that you drive.

    Cheers..

  • http://www.m3nghua.com menghua

    Thanks for your comment wiser. I respect what you do just because of how you talk here. Seriously I do think that LB should have some control on their members. Some of them really talk in a rude way like those posted here. If every member can communicate like you, I think there won’t be so many anti LB around these days..

  • Wiser

    I also hope that too.. but i don’t deny that there are rotten apples out there.

    Thank you…

    Wiser

  • neutral

    i dont know much about LB after all but from what read and some my reserah over the forum n website i found out that “The people who usually create the ngeative image in this what so call MLM, usually is the GREAT LOSER, Y? one thing for real they join the MLM because they are GREEDY and think they can’t earn BIG MONEY by just dreaming, it’s required HARD work, this is not “skim cepat kaya” you din’t work you din’t earn money.. so Y i say YOU ARE GREAT LOSER because don’t blame others neither the COMPANY NOR the PRODUCT.. blame YOURSELF because YOU have a LOSER ATTITUDE in YOURSELF..

  • XxxX

    I agree with neutral y you join if at last you blame others when you can’t make it, it’s your choice not to join no body forcing you.. you have your own decision… invest or not invest is depend on you.. when you can’t make it y you blame other and what if you can’t make it?

  • Seller

    I got 100k worth of Lampe Berger Lamps wanna sell at 40% of its original price… much cheaper than any where else.

    Anyone interested to buy some ?…

    Plz leave a message if wanna buy… have eye sore looking at those stocks at home !!

  • Seller

    Sorry, not 40%..

    All LampeBerger Lamps to sell at 60% off…

  • Ken

    Dear All LB MEMBERS,

    I know that the plan works, logically speaking you guys are selling the ‘concept’ and not the ‘product’ as per say. It is the concept of MLM that generates tons of money in and not so much of a stupid lamp. U sell the concept to A and A sells it to B and so on n so forth… thats how it works right? And where does the hard work comes? Not by convincing ppl to buy the lamp, but to convince them to convince others in order to rake up all the big bucks there is in the market. If A can convince B to convince C and C to convince D to convince D… can u imagine how much of money A is actually banking in? Fuck the lamp.. the lamp is just a show.. WHERE DOES THE HARD WORK LIES? u can see for urself.. the hard work lies in convincing others to join.. thats the hardwork.. not so much of selling the lamps. I know u guys spend minimum time talking bout how good the lamp is and etc.. but maximum time on how does the plan works… like i mentioned ealier. Its a good plan to make money but the sad part is PPL are taking it as a shortcut to sucess and what happens after that? PPl start to borrow money from loansharks, broken families all over, ppl will start to steal , beg and borrow and etc.. cannot imagine. Oh well, thats’ all for my comment on LB.

  • peaceout

    Im not anti Lb ..infact im interested in this business…and honestl;y dat guy with da name Anonymous and d other guy with all da FUCK words aa..ur embaressing US u know….most of the ppl in SYN are educated ppl…why la..if u disagree with wateva they say just keep it to urself n prove to them they r wrong instead of LYING TO OTHER PPL THAT U HAVE A BMW or wadvea…bcoz clearly with ur aatitude u dont seems like sumone that can make big money lo my dear.
    so yea pls…dont…act like ur sum kind of rocker ..have sum moral values pls. TQTQ.

  • http://www.m3nghua.com ..::::~||DaReDeviL||~::::..

    good comment peaceout… hopefully u can keep up this attitude when u started doing this business. We who anti LB is just because we’re tired of all those lies.. if u can be honest with the whole thing, people will eventually accept it..

  • unknown

    ilove lb

  • HopeBaby

    Wow, After read all the blog seem like many of them are still not understand in MLM industry. Any kind of biz have positive & negative. Just like me, actually I m from IT line & i just open an IT shop using 150000, but after run it for 1 year, I keep up adding money for maintain, then what happen? Actually im trying to tell tat, I buy monitor a unit for bout 300 just for earning RM10 then have to stock up bout 500 unit but still no one bane….. but now when i joint mlm for 30k all my friend & family scold laugh at me. than after tat i use 2 month to earn back the money, now im making RM8000 a month, when i buy a new car back, all my ralative say i want to show off. Taiko, if somebody earning for over RM7000 still want to drive kancil?? just want to buy a car tat confortable. & yes i buy a bmw 3series at the age of 23,just my network flood to indonesia, hong kong & sabah. I m not saying im success but think carefully & make research… if Lampe Berger is a scam, sure our goverment will do some thing bout it. Im also super band direct sell but i just do research by my self. if i didnt do tat, i think i still doin my biz tat not making money. Hope everybody think carefully, understand it 1st, dun join it strait away, do research then u will understand. So thanks & Good day…

  • mummytalk

    Hopebaby r u Marquis?? wow… ok…. just want to add tat…. If we can brainwash somebody, i dun think i will join mlm, I want to rule this world…. if we can brainwash some one…. do i need to talk to somebody for several hour just to make he/she understand, why not i just take hee/his brain to wash …then WALLA…. a new LB member in just 3 minute…… i just join SYN for 2nd month & I already take back my RM30k in just a month…. im now C/M & hope tat can be a duke by next year…..so wat can i say?? put effort in it & u will get it . If not, eat urself. Even having million but not hadworking. The end of day will be the same, no money. So believe in urself & not blamming other …..

  • http://jienster.com Alex

    eh meng hua, i think u shud del those msg tat cuss ur family. i did quite a similar post on it some time back. my fren ask me join also,he said “they can let u conquer melbourne base”. then i felt so ‘high’… and then i tot.. ‘wtf.. world if got so easy money…steve jobs eating grass ok?!”

    onli those lazy fucks join lb and hope to make some money. and then ask ppl ‘if u got guts come to our office lar’… tat’s coz u think ur ‘big guys’ up there still hold ur ass for u. if u tell them one day u dun haf the $ to ‘upgrade’… then u’d haf to lick ur ass clean.. and lick ur own sorry ass.

    im damn glad i din join…. coz i asked my fren ‘hey wheres ur bmw?” his answer is simple. Fuck LB.. go get a job

  • http://www.m3nghua.com menghua

    well there’s good and rotten apples out there. Why should I del those msgs? No I won’t delete them. The more they write those cursing comments, the more people will aware of what kind of people that join LB.

    If your own business are being criticized by a lot of people, what will you do then? You try to improve and see why people criticize you. Not like these people. They only know how to curse others’ families. Still, LB is consider as a profitable MLM business IF you really work hard on it. Don’t simply join because of the money you might earn. Think of the commitment and effort that you will put in as these are the main things that make you earn 5 digits per month.

  • http://jienster.com Alex

    p/s LB=Lose Big…. i think you’d get better odds at betting football lar.. Take Arsenal :D Hor meng hua?

  • http://jienster.com/2006/11/11/theres-still-some-lampe-berger-bullshit/ There’s still some Lampe Berger bullshit – Not your typical monster

    [...] November alex04:33 amAdd comment *If you’re a LB member and you can’t take some criticism, all your base are belong to us ok?* I was reading meng hua’s arkib negara post about the lampe berger bullshit… and suddenly this stench just filled my room. Yeah i still can’t believe that there’s still people who are actually trying to convince me to join LB. Do i look like i’m an impoverished fool? Ok i know i’ve written this before, but i need to ‘rant’ again. [...]

  • http://www.m3nghua.com menghua

    football betting not my cup of tea.. lol.. I support Chelsea but really disappointed with their performance lately. opps.. Off topic here…

  • observer unknown

    well, i read all the posted thingy, and i am gonna join LB tomorrow as a franchisee, but i really cant believe there are such ppl like fucking around , and acting so cocky without moral value, er i just some kind of dissapointed, i does felt LB plan is really great, thats what i think,

    and i read alot and lot of anti LB stuff, because if i just read on the success, i wouldn’t know whats happening back then,

    well i can say that there is less than 5% ppls are saying good about LB! and yet , i din’t change my mind, ill join LB tomorrow , and work it out ! i am over confidence all the time, i cant fail this, i’ve never fail in my life, whateva i wanted to do, i made it till the best, cant be the best is okay, atleast better than the good,

    and yet i am not a franchisee at this moment, what i can say to all LB members, i know i have no right to educate u guys,
    but i have to for my sake! i am really positive and freethinker, so please as a LB member, behave(spelling problem) yourself, and grown up,
    i am from a very rich family, and i got 38k a month from my dads in canada, and the money in my bank can last till the next generation, i works for my brothers, and yets i dont have to join LB for money, and whats u guys were saying BMW all stuff like that, and yes i believe u buy it by working it out, sorry to let u know your attitude doesn’t suit the brand BMW nor mercedez, maybe evolution something like skyline suit u more instead of those car!
    and lastly, i appriciate EVERYONEs here thats posted ! although i learn nth atleast i know something whats goin on! ill give it a try for this from the position as a franchisee, cheers LB members!! ^sorry for any offence although i dont really care it does offence or not^

  • fucking lampha berger

    hei you alll Lb ppl, dont suck ppl money by cheating them… F.. u

  • fucking lampha berger

    my brother was cheated by them, invested rm30K for nothing, they promise if he cannt find member, then they will pay back all those money, but they only will return 90% of the initial amount. by earning 10% of it, they already laugh at it, earning money by cheating ppl, FUck u LM

  • fucking lampha berger

    my brother was cheated by them, invested rm30K for nothing, they promise if he cannt find member, then they will pay back all those money, but they only will return 90% of the initial amount. by earning 10% of it, they already laugh at it, earning money by cheating ppl, FUck u LB

  • Lusidvicel

    Hello, i love http://www.m3nghua.com! Let me in, please :)

  • Network Marketer

    aihz….jz go to dis blog and read about it if u wanna complain about LB again….everything and i mean EVERYTHING (bad good….u name it) is there….

    http://www.suanie.net/2006/04/05/on-lamp-berger-and-mlm/

    btw, blogger is not a member i think…..well, doesn’t sound like a member though…anyways…all i can say is DO RESEARCH 1st before talking like Mr. Know-everything-about-mlm-and-network-marketing-and-basically-is-i-am-too-smart-to-say-anything-la

  • Sang

    Its pretty sad to see all the bad mouth LBer running their dirty show in ppl’s blog… Now I haev no doubt about the reason why LB is so much labelled as a scam. Personally I don’t see any problem with MLM, it is a variant from conventional business and obviously there will be people who can’t or refuse to accept the concept. End of the day, we need money to maintain a life, or the lives of our family members, and people who can foresee the better outcome from business and investment will most likely work their own asses till… say age of 55, and still unable to achieve much success. MLM is NOT a shortcut to success, it is a way of business, it is like when franchising McDonalds but paying low to own a business system. It is great for people who are able to work hard and commit but unable to pay large amount of upfront setup fees like conventional business does. And LB is one of such opportunity which can help you succeed in business and yet improving your health by utilising the products.

    And I obviously have no hard feeling to anti LB individuals, running their mouth or not, they are simply throwing out their own thoughts. It is just like someone who love watching soccer, while the other one telling them that basketball is the real sport. I am a LB distributor, I am proud of what I am doing because I belive in this business and I will keep on doing what I can to help myself and my recruits to build a better tomorrow for working on thsi business.

    And for those who thinks working > MLM… think deeper, think harder. Are you really paid fairly by your boss? While you comment that the uplines are basically sitting in the office and conning the downlines money, what about the big bum that sits above you while you working your ass day in day out 5 days a week and yet achieving little financial and career wise? Are you sure the Canon digital cam that you bought from the shop is not over priced? Well it might not be from the shop, but what about Canon itself? Isn’t it earning billions for selling the digital cam because of its brand and earning the lots with huge profit margin? You can argue that its a genuine product, but why would you say LB and Estabelle aren’t while they exist for more than 100 years? Do you guys know the existence of aromatherapist, which mean that aromatherapy has claimed their very own effectiveness in health?

    I can’t say more about negative people are obsessed in infusing negativity to the others. I don’t think I can help any of you more but just to wait until you find out what you do and what you think are basically not enough to have a life, a good life. Isn’t that simply what we want?

  • SYN member

    Well, not ALL SYN members encourage people to start joining as a count like my team. We prefer you moving as a franchisee as u will learn more about the company and the business, and at least you are a more ‘qualified’ count than those who invested and does not put any effort about. There ARE certain teams under SYN who do encourage people to join as count, we ourselves don’t agree with that, but then, its their team way of doing. My team are all talking about teamwork and effort, not jz investing n shaking your balls thinking you will be rich. There’s no free lunch in this world.

  • Sang

    In response to the msg above posted by a SYN member, all I can say is… well put :) I think ppl just get misunderstood that by joining this business its then an automated process to become rich… which is entirely wrong. Its all about teamwork, building up business knowledge, working hard on the network, developing leadership, and ultimately achieving wealth.

    By all means we are trying to become wealthy people, but certainly there are ppl who want to become wealthy because they are lazy and treating this as a get rich quick process, whereas others who want to become wealthy becoz they want to look after their family and themselves better and to reach financial freedom. And unfortunately negative thinking ppl in the community only focus on the insult of the former group of LB distributors.

    Look at it in a different perspective, you will understand the business in a different way.

  • http://www.friendster.com/sohchongmeng Soh

    LB can do. dun worry~.

  • nic

    I was persuaded by a friend to join LB. He was very supportive & patient even though I said ‘no’. But once I showed signs of giving in, he became quite persistent. I’ve been to the office, seen their plan, talked to ‘big’ guys but this plan doesn’t seem to work for me. What really freaked me out is their ‘cheer’ during LB events. No doubt, the people there are extremely friendly, but I want to get out of this all! I can’t seem to escape. I don’t want to lose this friendship too. Damn lost& confused here!Help!

  • http://www.m3nghua.com menghua

    Hey Nic, my advise to you is, say no to your friend. If he insists you join this thing, just stop contacting him. You don’t want to lose this friendship, but the moment he insist you to join LB, your friendship is over. Sometimes you have to be a bit selfish though, if you don’t want to join, just say no. Its not because you want to help out your friend. The whole thing is about you can or cannot do this business. If its not suitable for you, tell him “no”. And tell your friend if he still want to be friend with you, stop talking about LB with you. Good luck~!

  • jack spero

    go to jln pasar and buy cheap imitation at rm15.90. then buy any fucking oil u want and u have your own ‘lampe-berger’… oh.. u guys talking about the mlm issit? hahahha.. sorry wrong crowd..

  • sheila

    and how u know the lampe-berger diffusers dchl or wateva these mlm bozos are selling are the real deal anyways? in malaysia even phones have different types, AP, underwater and wat not… how the fuck we know these are not imitations? go low yat buy nokia battery rm 50 oso packaging like original nokia wat.. fuckin rm1000 for a fucking air purifier is fucked up to me.. and the stuff smell like kemenyan some more. might as well we use our original and traditional stuff tat we already have for hundreds of yrs. (eg. colok, kemenyan).. those are air-purifiers/diffusers as well.. just dont smell tat nice lor.. so just make new types lor.. kiwi scented or durian scented can wat.

    cmon malaysians. wake up and DO something. while u mlm fuckers trying to make money, us real ppl with real jobs making better money than u. y? money-management/time management dudes! tats the key to wealth.

    unless u got a new mlm product then open another mlm bisnes lor, then u can be like that steven dude oso..

    piece out and rock on malaysians!

  • yong

    these wankers are all arguing abt the mlm.. not one person actually asking abt the product itself.. hmm..very interesting.. guess idiots will always be idiots.. mention money abit, then if selling shit also dont care.

  • LB user want to buy cheap stocks

    HI,
    To retire count or marquies (or duke),

    I would like to buy old (or retire) stocks of “pyrethre” at 5-10% lower of Marquies’s price. I can take up to rm10000 stocks.
    interested email me : bqt@30gigs.com

    No Lamp please, just the oil.

    regards

  • kit

    Mayb all of u should read this.
    This is coming from a man who knows his stuff in business and simple economics logic.
    Anyone care to rebutt the mentioned logics? Please, I’m only talking to those ‘educated’ LB ppl only. The ‘fucks’ ppl can keep on fucking, your fucks will not have an effect on me.

    http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html

  • Zues

    Hey…I am an Lb member…eventhough I didnt read all of it but pls allow me to state some of my thoughts. I dont deny the fact some ppl are cheated in to it n some failed in it even though not by being cheated.there is ntg wrong with the system as where other then lamps and the promotion items.all can be refund 90% or more. and to those lb members out dere…trying to scold the anti lampeberger steven yip. u guys are being cheated by him to scold our very own steven yip as his name is definitely not the real thing. there is ntg wrong with the system in lb but it is some of the way
    the entry fee is only 150 infact mind u all. the 2345 is actually wannated us to sell the product so dat we can understand it b4 we start frenchising themwhile some other ppl who arent really smart or too obidient or naive wanna pay 30K thinking bout going to count is a waste of time. why not earn 30k n b a count or work your way til u got 30k only u pay instead of borrowing it n lay a big burden on urself.I am not a fan of lb or wat ever.I’m from another mlm company n I’m still studying the market.try to look at DCHL as amway. it started of with a floor cleaning product from the states or america wat ever. but now they have advanced to more products n are succesful now. like dchl…they are coming with more products like estabel which is not alot or totally but at some point better then artistry from amway. I hope to see a futhur in this bussiness. and the aroma lamp does work even if it doesnt purify which meant following the video is true. it gives the smell to activate our hormones to counter the conditions we may have n it really repels insects.herbs n plants have chemicals to activate our hormon like in the chinese medicine shop.my dad is a nutritionist him self n he actuallly test it b4 telling me stuff like dat as he hopes dat I would take over him 1 day
    he is involved in a nutrition that can help cancer patients to treat their conditions
    the company also spends up to 15% of their profit in to research and development is you didnt noe.the lamp alone is not expensive bcuz of the difusal as the coal is not ordinary coal like we can buy outside 1 packet for 10 bucks or so…it is a higher density coal made through many process.eventhough not all ppl can do dis business but every 1 should now or can noe bout it…I too started off in amway noeing ntg…I noe ntg bout amway…lots of ppl I noe is already in amway…names are already out for amway…n its been here for 30 years…n guess wat…when I recieve my pay check for it…I’m happy…I’ve got a fren which joined lb the same time I did for amway…n we did about the same amount of effort but his paycheck is more den mine…I’m thinkin of crossing over now.
    I’m always free to both sides and I wont mind any criticism which u can support by actual facts

  • Zues

    sorry…missed the not an LB member

  • confuse

    erm,i really confused with all this hype up lb thingy. firstly if it is such a great product,why is it not in the conventional market? they should at least try to branch out the product to consumer through better marketing and sales of products,if only to get trust and loyal/prospective customers.i have yet to see the sales of lb on shelves of department store.if thats too degrading for the product(even dior n versace are sold in metrojaya), then they can at least open up boutiques as a promotional ground for their products.no harm done right.after all the company is earning shitloads of money.what is a little promo booth gonna hurt your income.it will only get you more recognition for your products.

    then there is this ‘wasiat’ thing i heard in lb.that if u kick the bucket, you can let your family members inherit your position in lb.the rank, down lines and everything you have achieved in lb will go to your nearest kin or friends if you have stated in your will?!

    and also,this family member of mine had joined lb for like 4 years already.she had ask me to join and introduced me to a few people.for example,one of them is an ex-owner of a law firm and he was one of the person to write the ethical codes and conduct for lb.he was also responsible for the drawing up of the prospect/new distributor form.
    i did not get to ask many question as he was busy that day(he was a guest speaker at NDO 2007), but i do wonder why a successful lawyer who read law oversea and personally owned a law firm joined SYN…

  • http://www.m3nghua.com menghua

    I’ve seen some boutiques that is selling LB products, but it’s hidden in some corridor where most people won’t walk to in the shopping mall. Most products turn to MLM when they don’t perform well on shelfs. So you know what I mean here right?

    Your example is actually nothing new to us. They can tell you all kind of experience they have.. working as lawyer, engineer, high executives.. I can bullshit those things also! :lol: :lol:

    But all in all, this business depends on your hard work. Without hard work but only dreaming, you will end up becoming those being “scammed”. These victims actually take responsibility on being scammed because they never think of the hard work that they need to put in but just day dreaming that they will earn a lot of money… :roll:

  • someone

    u all people got no life, if u all wanna blame someone or something, please make sure you have facts!
    a company which awarded the super brand and have a 5 years licent is a scam, what the hell you trying to show people?
    you think the government is idiot?
    you are the only smart guy?
    you don’t have the guts to invest such money, don’t blame people who invest is idiot,
    they are willing to change, even they can’t succeed in the business, they are still nuch more better than U!

  • Carven

    After reading all this, i found out SOME of Lb ppl only knows how to use vulgar words just because we anti-LB. Well, I used to be LB member and not even invite any of my friends because i always think before i act. I joined just being FORCED by friendship. Honestly i wouldn’t say who is right or who is wrong…because both parties also will have positive & negative thinking.

    I’ve decided to quit just because the friends that i used to work with exactly not the same person that i know. In their mind, only money not friendship. That’s why i couldn’t see my friends being wasted money for nothing…Last time i also love LB so much and can earn money. And i argue with family. Since the day i quit LB, my friend ask me when am i going return him the money (RM100 only) Only RM 100, he keep calling and sms me to meet up and return him the money. They use friendship to lure people to join lb like menghua said.

    Those talking about Mr.Donald Trump and bla bla bla…They are rich because of his smart thinking and running a ethical business. He work hard to get what he want. Nothing comes easy. and yea…nothing is free.

    Frankly speaking, i’m from poor family (not that really poor like kampung boy lar…medium like that lor…)In our life we do need money but not that important than friendship. To me, friendship is extremely important for me…Luxury house? Ferrari car? Sounds great to have one, can you imagine if you’ve lost all your friends & family, alone in the house with the maids. RM30 also enough for me to use for 1 day shopping with friends watching movie and having meal happily. Greed only will lead us to black hole. It just like SATAN’s plan. Eventhough i’m busy & stress whole day working, but still happy working with my mates and my guests (eventhough they are choosy).

    Btw, you decide your own decision. :mrgreen:

  • LOUIS LIEN

    dun argue lah….LB is no wrong…..
    onli is the people inside LB.have wrong minds..and thinking….or right understanding…
    tat y…so many people dislike LB….
    actually….cannot force people to join…
    it is kind of business…people have their right whether wan join or dun wan…..

  • LB Posers

    I really dont know why they are so many ppl donating their/parents hard-earned money just bcoz of some cock stories those lame asses told. dont u all see the picture so clearly ? Common LB Posers Sign :

    1. Chinese-educated youngsters dressed in suits (they thought they were cool :lol: !!)

    2. Driving their lifetime achievement,a BMW to show-off (thats the cheapest 2nd hand car they could merely afford for downpayment).Thats not what a person who earn at least 10k per month drives :???:

    3. Attending talks/convention at Sunway Hotel & etc such as the one they had at Sentosa Sg(heard that it sucked and lame)

    4. Boasting of 5-figure STEADY income :shock: (this is the killer lure). Their money comes from new member’s joining fee, so if no new downline = no money. Is it that steady ? Is it that easy to convince someone to throw in rm 2345 or rm 30k ?

    I pity those who helped their upline to become marquis, congratz to him but what about his downline?? hard work eh to pump rm 400,000 for the company in few months time. how much more 400,000 can u guys pump for the next downline to challenge marquis? Steven Yeam is enjoying his wine with some bitches sucking his cock while u guys conning ppl to join in and fill up his bank account. dreaming to be like him one day ? well DREAM ON.

    ITs very stupid to buy the count status because when u want to challenge marquis, u dont have any downline to do it for u. u still need to find the same amount of ppl to sell off ur 30k worth of lamps,so indirectly speaking u are buying advanced stock from them.

    Stop being a faggot and face reality, alot of ppl are laughing at u coz of the way u handle this ‘business :roll: ‘. Its so childish to talk ppl in by showing off what u have (maybe not even urs). And they are always in button up /long sleeve shirt to act like a ‘professional’. You can tell if someone is really making alot of money and enjoying his comfortable life. They dont boast around and when ppl ask about their job, it defenitely wont be some mlm shit.

    I’ve got some friends who are in LB as well, there’s nothing much i could do to advise them but to let them experience and fall once in order to wakeup and learn. rm 2345 is ok for a lesson but rm 30k is just way too much. some even quit their job and do full time LB. what can u do in menara HLA ? just wait for new victims to walk in and start ur brain washing session. I think they spend more than they can earn coz everytime have to go out and ‘meet clients’ yamcha few times a day

    I’ve heard alot of stories from their upline, mainly telling u how important for a secure future, earn money without working, flexible time bla bla bla … DUHH, everybody wants that but how sure are u LB will GUARENTEE all that? Come on, flip thestar and get a real job, start somewhere.. at least u will really have some basic money coming in every month. Make your parents proud ! Its very hard for them to raise u up, dun listen to ppl’s flowery words and be greedy. IF u are selling products then its acceptable, but now LB’s selling point is ‘business’ and the lamp is used for coverline (what an asshole). In other words, u get a cut from ripping ppl’s joining fee, not commission from the product itself.

    And for the LB supporters or members who fuck here fuck there in this post, please ask urself honestly how much are u really making now every month ? how many downlines u have ? are ur downlines making money as well, u selfish bastard ! HOW OLD ARE U ALREADY ?

    Dont target young college students, they are the most innocent victim of all. Being naive and wanna make money before they even graduate, this seems to be the best water fish. To all the students out there, when someone wanna talk business with u and say u can make 5-figure income very fast, show them both ur middle finger and shove it up his ass. Study hard and focus,dun be tempted with some kid’s lifestyle or ride, im sure u can do better in future by urself.

    The worst scenario ive seen is that someone actually gets personal loan from bank or ah long . Shit! So young already wanna get black listed by bank negara or kena splash red paint outside ur house ? if it happens will ur upline come save you? we’ll see ……..

    I’ve been very free lately and browsed through dchl’s main website .. u guys might wanna check it out at http://www.dchl.com.my/English%20Version/BizOpp_MarquisMalaysia2006.asp …… click on every month and u will see the number of marquis decreasing and on november last year only ONE member got promoted. there’s none so far for this year(2007). Seems like their business is down the drain now but what the fuck do the dukes care right ? they already made so much money and how good if somehow the money could be refunded to those who got terribly conned.

  • LB_LB

    I am disgusted, or rather quite entertained, to read certain comments made by pro-LB ppl. Saying you guys educated..earning 5 figures…drive nice cars… is totally an understatement. You guys are certainly the best. Clad in reluctant shirts and blazers, amplifying to others how much you earn, are just a mere demonstration of immaturity and a total pest to the community. I wonder what sort of language is being used to conduct those LB convention etc… For all that i could read, seems to show that only vulgar words, nothing more than the infamous ‘F’ word, is used. Hey, at least use a mixture of vulgar words la. Kudos to you all. Keep it up. To the pro-LB ppl, well, you guys probably can’t even figure out the comment i posted is actually against you or not. :mrgreen:

  • almost cheated

    a good fren of mine invited me to times square today… said got surprise for me…then when i go there… he said there is a businness conference is on over there… so i think i’d be good for me to join cos i can learn businness for extra knowledge… i even paid 20 BUCKS for it… then when the even started… oh shit!! it’s steven yeam’s giving speaches saying that he juz converted hundreds of ppl half of the world to millionaires… if it’s so effective, y not everyone quit studies in universities n do this so called “network marketing”…they even encouraged students to join!!!! saying that it;s not good to rely on parents money to study… their target is students n those ppl with low pay n desperately in need of money… it’s a totally scam to those who’s greedy enuf to get rich fast! haiz…dissapointed cos being betrayed by a good fren who wants to earn money…..
    zzz speechless…. if the steven guy is a damn good in making money, how come i neva come across his name in wealth club of malaysia?? not even the richest man in the world or asia cos he said he earned 7 figures which is at least a million USD in a month????

  • sarena

    hai..whatever it is..being a family member of SYN..is the best thing i ever had in my life..To all SYN member..we are champion!
    JUST DO IT..!

  • LB_LB

    did i read… ”whatever it is”…”champion”…”just do it” ? Typical SYN jargons. Or shall i say, only typical SYN members who somehow decipher these moronic jargons as something positive. Positive? Yeah positive enough to fool innocent individuals. So Sarena, there really isn’t a need to publicise and promote your immaturity and your thoughts about SYN is nothing but just being ”champion”, ”whatever it is” and ”Just do it”. Wake up, get alive, be a respectable person to say the least. Or not, for whatever it is, just do it and be a champion, be a SYN, or rather SIN. :evil:

  • max

    Some have positive some have negative,
    For those anti just be more polite and voice out the fact and experience

    For those LB member, I think not all LB is lame right? I believe some might get the what so call 5 figure driving a bmw. But I can say is, you can earn but hard to maintain every month. Let say your bmw installments for 9 years, at least RM1400 in a month, Not to say those luxury meals, attire and lifestyles. Family? house maybe, wife for those married…Basically the income is not stable…and risky. I’m not a LB member or anti LB. I even argue with my friends for not joining. Some they really can drive a BMW but last for 4-6 months because their downline not working properly. Some can’t achieve anything and back to study plus wasted 2-3 years time.
    So it is very subjective here. If you say can’t why some people can make it. If you say guarantee, but why some can’t.

    But The way they push people is unethical way. I believe doing with LB either you get money or you loss your friends as the first people you will ask to join this network is your friend. If you push too hard, they will ignore you. If you don’t push, then you earn nothing.

    So think properly, whether this job is suitable for you before joinning. Don’t just blindly join because of 5 digits, BMW – Those thing won’t last long if you not hardworking and sacrified your friendship maybe some family as well..

  • LB_LB

    i am, again, amazed with so many non-LB members, at least the ones who posted here, who still remain so polite and speak educatedly to these rude LB members, as shown by their previous posts. Good stuffs there, Max!

    So LB members, stop being one-sided and be more reasonable.
    You won’t want to end up in a scam just like the recent SMS Scam by AKN Mtech.

    Pai Kiah Uncle Lim is all behind it.

    Check it out at http://mobilebedsidenews.blogspot.com/

  • LB_LB

    just to reinstate… LB still sucks big time!

    Shame on all LB Members!

    if you ever wonder why ur cars got stolen, you can find the Banks! hahaha!

  • ex-LB

    I have joined LB before, and therefore i think i can add my 2 cents both when i was inside, and when i left.

    I spend more than RM50,000 during my time in the business, and made about the same amount. When i was inside, i was pretty blinded by the promises made and potential of the limitless market.

    why I left? simple, i simply cannot continue a business where so many of my friends didnt make any money, even though they follow the system to the dot. Let us face it, no two person are alike. To claim that just follow the system and u will be rich is not true. Not everyone has the same amount of friends, the same capital, the same energy, the same attitude etc.

    And we shld also understand that when we have ppl who can afford Rm30K and ppl who cannot, this is no longer a level game. MLM is supposed to be level player to everyone. How can it be level game when the entry level is from RM2345 to RM30K? Can anyone honestly tell me that ppl who put in RM2345 can be as successful using the same method as ppl who invest RM30K? Their contacts are different, and the way to motivate them may be different.

    Frankly, if u look at the future of a business, just look at the dropout rate among the top acheivers. Don’t look at the bottom level, because drop out rates will be high in any industry, whether mlm or conventional business. In LB, I have seen many Dukes (including my own) who stopped doing the business. If your motivation is to achieve the level of Duke, and we have people who are already at that level who quit – something must be wrong somewhere. If Duke is so good, why do they quit? I am not talking about 1 or 2. Do some reseach, and see how many of the Dukes are still in the business. Are they in the events just to show face, or are they still actively in the business? I know a few who are there to show face, but no longer active like before. Not that they are so rich, they are retiring, but they are going back to their own businesses or careers.

    Before u join, ask what you rally want. Are the people who u look up to already acheiving what they said they are doing or is it just a show?
    Think then act. If everything went well, congratulations. But if something goes wrong, take full responsibilty and move on.

    hope this help

  • LB_LB

    it certainly helps. thanks for the advise.

    and i also heard that Uncle Lim Seng Boon of AKN Mtech, father of all sms Scams, also in lampe berger.

  • franchise

    i love lampe berger. muach lb. wakakakka

  • LB_LB

    u franchise oni issit? when become marque? when la?

    in your dreams perhaps… go on with your con jobs man…

  • http://www.m3nghua.com/lampe-berger-bullshit/ DERUU

    Anyone know sidekick or marquis Wendy?
    He pulled one of my friend to be his down line and now that friend of mine is asking me to join him and when i said that i`ll see first cos i do not have that much money to join, they say that they will meet my parents and tell me a way that is to borrow money from your parents, with that money in brunei, i can buy a second hand car and drive to anywhere i want.On the other hand, when they are introducing the dchl marketing plan they didnt tell us anything about the distributor but straight away with franchisee which costs about RM2300+.i was shocked when i saw the marketing plan in the anti lampe berger blog site.
    Come on man,where got you join member must load your stock in an instance, where got people do business less than a year or two can buy ferrari, BMW…,where got sales companies which does not expose their business plan(Marketing plan is how the scheme work and business plan is how u sell your things and plan your business based on your products) to non-members or people who r willing to join them?,they claim that they have dchl in malaysia but y not register straightly from the government as dchl but y as RZ company, when marquis wendy introduce this company to me, she does not show at least a duplicate license of the company’s registeration and if it is a normal company using the MULTI LEVEL MARKETING concept, it will mostly concentrate on their products, and expose of their marketing plans, business plans and whatever legal rights or patents and its membership fee is normal ranging from RM60-maybe at least less than 1000(My estimation)and also buy stock, dont want to buy stock your business, who cares.

    So be careful then

  • http://www.m3nghua.com/lampe-berger-bullshit/ DERUU

    Sori, forgot to mention, sidekick is a guy and marquis( a determined position in the dchl marketing system and wendy is a girl. In case, someone thought that it is the same person.

  • LB_LB

    well… very well said except for the cars they buy…

    BMW yes but ferrari? errr… i don’t think so, it ain’t easy to find 3rd…4th hand recond of the reconditioned ferrari around ler….

    hahaha!!!

  • CHinese Hooker

    Pupet AKN Mtech Lim Seng Boon licking Indian s bully chinese competitors is what we call typical Malaysian business man. Successful Indian company help by s licking chinese.

  • LB_LB

    hahahahaha well said.

    what to do, some people just like to lick S.

    bugger Paikiah HamChooNg LIM!!!! hahaha!!!!

  • munes

    hi i’m munes.I’m not anti LB or member of LB just some queris abt the marketing what i don understand here is r v buying the Lb lamp for more than 2k???is the main purpose of the company to sell the lamp or take money from one to another..as i know malaysia goverment is stopping all ebiz,is it another way to collect money from ppl by selling this lamp so tht there is a core product so that it will look like no hanky panky tricks behind it…to all LB members out there just to ask how long u r driving ur BMW/mers/porshe/ferrari???wht will happen to ur bm/mers/porshe…or ur helicopters when this is proven as a scam
    sorry to be informed….bankrupcy will be declared…tht time no upline will show u how to make a millon to settle ur debts…
    as long as there is a ppl from goverment higher level getting their share’s all this no problem…think abt wht happen to swisss cash and a lot of company involved in cash dealing..tis wil go till a-b-c till z..wht will happen z…still ur friend..
    LB members pls show us ur bank balance n ur properties..pls

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    im the one who is so stupid invested 2.5k… but the actualy ammount is 2345k…see???? at the 1st place there are cheating the new invester,
    upon joinin this bisnes i was requring to sign an application form and the important form, there is 2 seperate form. but my upline only present to me application form, not the important form, because at the important form(that idiot form u can get at the ground floor DCHL co.) there stated that u can get back ur whole money in 10days if im not satisfied in this bisnes..but they did’t tell me. the reason is so simple, they want me askin my fwen to join this bisnes, so that their network will become big and bigger…because i dun want to lose my fwen if the similar situation happen to them,i hang my account. my upline is so angry, they asked me to terminate my account, because if im still under him, their network cannot increased fastly.. No wonder la, they have to work, only with 4 people under him, supposely they can go for 5 people,,,, hahaha….
    because of this reason my upline threaten to beat me if he found me anywhere…HEY, damn stupid, our country has a law.. if u beat me, see where u goin????? HAHA….im already makin a police report, if u not believe it u can check it in anywhere police station, there are alots of people being cheated by this MLM scheme….
    to the new invester or anybody who interested to join this bisnes think again…if u want to lose ur fwen, ur family because of the bisnes that is not guarantee ur future.. go ahead.. im advise this, because i dont want this happen to anybody except me…so plzz..tell ur fwen and ur family, if they want to become rich there is no faster way, except they has to wotk hard, honest to people around them, and the most important things to the all DCHL members, if 2day u cheatin people, no wonder the nex day, u being cheated by the thousand of people around u, think again…..

    p/s
    there is no other ways to stop this unethical bisnes….except u
    tellin ur fwen, ur relatives about this bisnes,
    there is no other ways to become rich easily,
    everything comes from GOD,
    if there is nobody join, this bisnes will stop there..
    RIP LAMPE BERGER

  • Stupid LB

    guys, don trust LB. i was almost cheated by this money suckers once. when i refuse to join this SUPER BIZ due to financial issue, and you knw what they suggest? ‘USE YOUR CREDIT CARD’…. shame on u LB…its all about MONEY MONEY MONEY…when i ask how they invest all this money…and they just said its confidential..billshit….better invest in Public Mutual…..

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    hahaha..stupid LB….it is true…
    they said that their marketing planing is very good and cannot open to anyone, unless u have registered…what kind of bullshit there.
    ALL of u surely want to know..what there are going to teach u after all of u invested.
    1stly, they ask u to TIP up DCHL co.to ur friends only after ur fwen have come to their office( is it righ LB memeber out there) HEY, if it is a very good co. no need for u la, to tell other people, there can know theirself.
    2ndly. dO prospect..this is the form that u have 2 write and send to your upline, before u take ur beloved fwen to level 3A…
    3rdly….says something sweet and ask the naive people to join this bisnes…
    HAHAHa…after that u will listen how many figures thier income.5..6..haha.
    HOI!!! damn stupid, if ur income is guarantee 5 figures per month..equal to 10,000 to 99,999…
    no need for u to come to HLA co, everyday..WHAT???? golden triagle…
    if my income is confirm 5 figures per month, im goin holiday everyday, and enjoy every single moment, no need for me to come to that idiot place, wasting my time until late night..
    so cruel ask naive people money for ur own benefit..and the only rich man is SYN.
    ..LB members listen, 1 day when the govt ban MLM marketing, u will see, u have nothing, except ur dreams…

  • rina

    :roll: i dont think LB is a scam.ive been to the company’s office.
    haven’t decided whether to join or not since the money required is quite
    a lot.my fren even took out a bank loan to do this..sheesh,,..thats a bit risky,ey???this is an MLM company, of course, but not all mlm companies are scam schemes.its just that it requires a lot of hard work at convincing other people to join in as well to make money for yourselves..but LB does give a fair oppurtunity to everyone to make money, as long as u can convince at least 5 people to join in and invest their hard earned money.hehehehe…thats the catch..to all u doubters of LB, y dont u go to the main HQ office and find out for urselves?after reading all the comments, im pretty sure most of u dunno what ur talking about.for me to be fair, since im not an LB member, i find the company legal but risky in terms of investing my money.id rather put it in public mutual or others like it.unit trust.

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    HAHAHAHAHA….!!!!!
    Rina, i have been there for 1 month,
    DCHL co,menara HLA, no 3 jalan kian peng, 50450 kuala lumpur.
    next to orrange club…WHAT??? golden triangle….
    is it TRUE?????
    when u going there, they will brain wash u, selling a dream in ur mind, actualy what they want is not ur money basicly, but ur fwen and close relatives to join their bisnes….
    what kind of cheap bisnes… when u do bisnes, actualy u selling product, not people, so why u ask the new invester to find another 5 person…

  • Mr. Neutral

    Dear all i am new hear. i am surprise to know about this blog spot. But REMEMBER I AM NEUTRAL HERE IF WHAT I HAVE OFFENDED YOU I APOLOGIZE. I am LB member but i have to admit it is way to much to ask for 30k from someone. Well as for me i started from the lowest position which i invest on 2.5k but fuck, it is still hell lot of money, i can get get a PS3 with it. But now i am in a position that is worth RM 40k and for the last 5 month i earn about 10k. My opinion is that this business is ok so far, but what i am really sad about is that most of those in my net persuade peolpe that join to invest at around 40k. I don’t the word persuade is suitable but the word FORCE or PAKSA. I feel sadden when i see a challenge marquis force one person to invest 40k to become count so that he will be promoted into a marquis. Firstly that challenge marquis forget about the important 5 steps he learn. The very first one, SINCERITY. But what i like about the company is i can gain free knowledge especially at the convention but what i dislike most at the convention is that it is brainwashing. In the convention all i do at that place that worth RM 300 is nice and beautiful girls. And that is the best thing that had happen to me since joining the company. Any guys i am open if you give negative or positive feedback i am willing to read about it. I welcome negative feedback most.

  • rina

    brainwash…??hmm..i think whether anyone gets ‘brainwashed’ or not, its totally up to them.dont be so naive as to believe evertyhing anybody says.its not like anybody’s tortured and hypnotized into joining dchl/LB right?? :grin: people are widely concious about their decisions of joining in or not.cars, looks, clothes can be very deceiving.so do ur research, ask about every single aspect of the company that u dont understand.if u have doubt = dont join.think about ur own abilities and limitations first.
    i dunno if any LB members are unethically promoting LB,if they are, then these new members are nothing short of victims and these things should be reported of course.but dont be sour if this venture/investment scheme didnt turn out well for u as expected (unless u were blatantly conned), because this is the way MLM works.u have to decide on ur own whether u can do this thing or not in the first place.AND OF COURSE people WILL sweet talk and sort of ‘persuade’ other people into entering, showing their expensive cars, their diamond accessories, whatever..but its our job to see behind all those layers and decide if we have the capability or the personality to shine in this MLM business.i mean,..we’re talking thousands here, not just a few RMs.
    mr. anti lampe berger malaysia, u asked me y they need to find people and not just sell their products.well, THIS is y its called MLM.its the way the system is, whether u like it or not..if they are just selling products, they might as well open up a retail centre and be done with it and none of us would be discussing this issue here.truth is,some people make it in the MLM business, some people dont.its a fact.and its not illegal either in the m’sian law.for me, i know that i cant possibly find 5 people who’d want to invest rm2500 or more only to have them find another 5 people to be their downline.1 of the reasons y i didnt enter.i dont think this type of business suits me and i dont believe in their products that much.i think the perfume bottle design really stinks, and the perfume smell itself ain’t unique..but some people successfully thrive in this type of business and they make tons of money in this.but make no mistake about it,its very hard work actually.
    nothing is free.anyway, having said all this,ive done some thinking,-ve and +ve aspects of dchl/LB,and decided not to join in for the time being, ive already put my money in unit trust.safer.happier.no worries.good luck all.chiow :wink:

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    To all people out there…
    Dun trust DCHL…

  • network marketer

    First and foremost before i start, I would to start stating I’m not from LB. I am a network marketer from other company. The reason I’m writing here is not siding anyone but to clear the main purpose of companies doing their business MLM way. Main thing is to cut of middle-men to avoid any un-wanted price mark-up. For example, a tin of Coke is 70 cent [or less] from the factory, but after going through all the middle-men [wholesellers and etc] it becomes RM2.10. But no one complains because no one knows. Second is to cut of advertising fee whih doesn’t gurantee 100% worth of sale. A lot of companies actually spent millions a year to advertise, advertising doesn’t gurantee 100% sales. People actually found out the best way to advertise to through the word of mouth. So, they come out with, promoters etc. BUT someone found out that the promoters are not paid for what they do, still not many people believe them, and still the money goes to the advertising agent. Then MLM is born, it gives a win-win situation to everybody [this really depends on the company and they system though, my company and DCHL are one the examples]. Why win-win situation? You are paid when you introduce the product and sell to to anyone [even buying for yourself to consume is counted], the advertising fee is saved and given to distributors. It gives a franchise [franchise means a power to sell the products] to the distributors with a cheap cost. [Mcdonald's franchise is 1 mil, starbucks's is 500k], you don;t need to open a shop and pay rent and bills [you need a shop lot for a mcd though], you don’t have to hire anyone [you are the boss of your own]. That is the beauty of Network Distribution [I think the name already tells you alot]. Even Donald Trump, Bill Gates, Robert Kiyosaki and alot of rich man, supports the idea of network distribution. Even their own companies are run with MLM, but just bigger scale which need more cash to invest [more cash means millions/billions].

    Now if you understand good for you, do some reading and research, its a chance for you to make a better living [BMW, sport cars, luxury houses are secondary, in my opinion the 1st priority of making money is to put food on the table for the family], if you stilll quite blur but want to know more, read up and research, seriously MLM is beautiful, if you don’t understand and still in the state of denial [I don't care actually], have fun working and keep on dreaming for a better life by doing the same thing everyday, with the powerful ego to not listen and learn new things and put an effort to sacrifice and change. Good luck have fun and I rest my case.

  • STUPID LB

    HELLO network marketer, the same COKE story told by every LB members in the DCHL. Why u guys don’t have any other 70Cent COKE story ah???? suck the Steven Yeam COCK la….

  • LB_LB

    LB members are all fools! nuff’ said!

  • Network Marketer

    Its very obvious that you didn’t read my post properly. I’ve already said I’m not from lb. For your questions, allow me to ask you another question [provided you have the brain to understand, don't bother answering], do you know how much Maxis spent for advertising? Do you know how much profit wholesalers get for just fowarding products from factory to consumers? Is your brain functioning properly when you read my post? It’s damn obvious it is not [I'm just assuming it can]. And finally are you a very successful businessman or are you a very powerful hardworking shoe polishing dog?

    PS: Don’t bother answering if you don’t wish to. this apply to others who read this, I don’t want to argue with empty tins.

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    what kind of cheap story, Mc D, Coke……
    u only can said anything, but what is ur prove…
    click to this one my fwen, here you will see, how much people will succed in doing this scheme.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    i dare to challenge.
    all Lb members,
    if ur bisnes, ur marketing plan is very good, and ur income is 5-6 figures,
    why all of u not publish ur bisnes to the mass media, eg. newspaper, Television by advertising it.
    by doing so, u can ask thousand of naive people out there to join this bisnes…HEY, Mcd and coke also advertise maaa…
    HAHAHa…u afraid rite. They dare to spent huge money because of their products and servises quality is good,
    if ur income is 6 figures, bape sgt la nak advertise ur product at media kan. why all of u don want to advertise..
    what kind of cheap bisnes…
    let see, how long can u go idiot people, one day all of u will realise, that u have nothing, except ur dream, and what Steven Yeap do??????? catch hot chicks, drive ferari, and all of u working so hard and get nothing..
    Damn stupid

  • Network Maketer

    To the 2 up there, start reading business magazines, not HOT or Gempak. Buy star, read the business section don’t see paris going to jail or not. Go online, go to business websites, CNN, to learn how rich people make money, not going friendster post love story bulletin. DCHL had been featured in Malaysian Business Magazine, Nanyang, Sin Chew, Star, forbes.com, etc. As for the Mcd and coke story, READ and reasearch yourself [provided if you have the level of intelligence to understand what the documents write], the prove is there. Ican tell you stories of starbucks, berjaya, YTL banks, etc on how they make money, but since none of you have the power to understand, writing this is already wasting my time. And for the advertising thing, you obviously didn’t read my post properly. oh wait, do you have a brain to understand it at the first place? I assume you don’t. Oh btw, if you have ever gone to college or university [if you can], didn’t your lecturer told you things in wikipedia are not reliable sources [I hope you understand what that means]?

  • anti lampe berger malaysia
  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    Saturday, July 21, 2007
    Anti-LampeBerger Campaign

    Please support this Campaign in Friendster at http://www.friendster.com/antidchl This is a campaign set up to prevent and to educate people from getting hoax into this company. There’s plenty of ways to earn money, but not from this! Please let everyone know.

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    i only dare to challenge lB members…
    if u r not the one. just sit and keep ur mouth shut…
    im only blaming Lb members not the other MLM co..
    im sory for that,

  • LB_LB

    ey network marketer,

    I wish to understand your point of view but I just can’t seem to go that far back my buttock to see your perspective. Stop telling others how to use one’s brains if you yourself is just plain dumb. Don’t speculate your nonsensical thoughts here. Go read more books before you demonstrate your stupidity.
    Yes, antilampbergerMalaysia, you’re right. Lampberger to die!

  • STUPID LB

    good reply ‘anti lampe berger malaysia ‘. SHAME on u LB members….

  • Network Marketer

    Dear mr/miss/uncle/aunty/abang/kakak anti-lampberger malaysia,

    First, I want to thank you for helping me bring down my competitor. Second, it’s ok if you don’t understand, I don’t really care. Third, if you don’t understand what I’ve said, Good Luck and Have Fun bringing down DCHL ^^. You have my fullest moral support. I’m waiting to see you bring them down, chaoz. ^^

    PS: Seriously, do proper reading from proper authors. Do proper research from proper sources and documents. I don’t want to see you get sued by DCHL for defamation [if you understand what it means]. ^^

    Peace.

  • LB_LB

    Network Marketer,

    hahahaha!!!!!!

    Can we all take some time off and laugh at this sad bugger??!!!

    hahahhaaha!!!!!!

    is that all you can say, network marketer? telling others to read more…asking others whether they understand what you meant….etc etc?

    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand what you say Because what you said is nothing but nonsense!… or errmm…. bullshit? you know what it means? hahahhaa!!!!!

    Stop contributing your dumb comments here. oh Wait? you’re leaving already? Leaving because you cannot compete us with Facts right?

    Loser you, same with DCHL!

    Lampberger to die!

  • Network Marketer

    Have you ever heard of Robert Kiyosaki? Donald Trump? Bill Gates? Read their books. Anyway, yeah, I’m not going to post my dumb pointless comments anymore, I’m taking my Z4 tomorrow, got no time to argue to with brainless idiots. Chaoz. And oh ya, good luck and have fun bringing down SYN. Try going to Sunway on 9th September to join our beach party. Bring the cops there also, say we are all conners. Bring your lawyer too, sue all of us. Use your good strong facts to sue us, OK? You have my support. Before that, try enjot our fireworks first la, don’t want waste. ^^

  • LB_LB

    fgrgr

  • BORNEO FREEMASON

    MLM??MLM..MLM..MLM…
    WAT DA HEL IS DAT??
    MY DAMN BESTFREN JUS CONVINCE MY 2 JOIN DIS BIZNES..
    YUP..
    I WILL GOIN 2 KLCC 24 AUGUS…
    N C WAN ME 2 GET RM2500 4 DA STARTING..
    BOUT DAT MONEY???
    DAT NOT A OBSTACLE 4 ME..
    DAT JUS A PIECES 4 ME….
    I DONOE HOW 2 TALK BOUT DIS MLM???
    I READ ALOT OF COMMENT HERE…
    SAY DAT DONALD TRUMP,BILL GATE,AIRASIA…
    SAY DAT MLM IS A GUD WAY OF BIZNES..
    BUT DO U BLV 4 DAT???
    DO U OL BLV WAT THEIR COMENT???
    IF, SULTAN OF BRUNEI,LI KA SHING, Carlos Slim Helú, Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud…
    IF DEY IN…THEN I IN…
    BMW??MERCS??FERRARI??
    IS DAT WAT U OL DREAM??
    I DREAM MNORE THEN DAT…
    I NEED CONQUER HUMAN SOUL..
    I DON WAN MONEY..
    N RULING DA HUMAN BEING…
    SO IF DAT MLM CAN OFFER 2 ME…
    THEN I WILL IN…
    ABOUT DIS STEVEN YEAM..
    WHO DA HELL IS DIS GUY???
    DID DA RED NOE BOUT HIM???
    IT SUCK…
    COZ A LOT MY FREN WHO INVOLVE IN DIZ BIZNES A STDENT…
    WAT DA HELL HAPPEN IN OUR SOCIETY???
    YUP….IT GREAT 2 B RICH WHEN U STILL YOUNG…]
    WHERE U GET DAT MONEY???DAT FUCKIN CAPITAL???
    PARENT??SELL DRUG?>?
    1 THING DAT I CURIOUS HERE..
    ARCH..DUKE..BARON..
    DO U OL NOE WAT DA HELL IS DAT??
    SO DIS FRIADY….
    MAYB PEACE UPON U OLL…

    BORNEO MASONARY…

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    hahaha…
    my fwen, read this comment from our beloved fwen here….network marketer
    Aug 15th, 2007 at 1:45 am …
    At the first place he said that he is not LB members, but on Aug 22nd, 2007 at 6:53 pm. and now he said he is LB members,
    What kind people this is…. Yesterday while enjoying my diner, i saw 1 guy selling kerepek… my heart was touching because they try to find a money from a kindness and good ways, not try to cheat other people, HAHAHa, HEy, even they get only small amount of money at that night, and ride Honda Ex5, they get it from ethical ways,
    i stil wondering, even u drive BMW, Celica, are u stil have a dignity,
    would u ever feel shameless to the person selling kerepek, like i say jus now,
    Think about it, if u can become rich through this bisnes, well done!!!!!!!!! but do u ever feel guilty when the person under u does’nt makes any money, and lose their money when they do this bisnes…
    believe in KarMA,

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    stop posting ur dumb comments anymore mr network marketer???????
    Thank u so much because u also not welcomed here, to LB losers out there, dont be so arrogant, when ur POTENTIAL BISNES is collapsed, u will see how u r going to face this world…

  • LB_LB

    hahahaha hilarious man this network marketer.

    At first denied, and now admit he is a member.

    Oh, so that’s how DCHL teach their members. To be a Cheater!

    Wahh!!! buy new z4 ar? Wow, superb man!

    If i were you, i will quickly show the whole world and start conning as many people as you can before your z4 is towed back by the bank!!!!

    hahaha!!!

    let us all take some time off again and Laugh at this sad bugger!

    by the way, i pity your parents who have given you all their hard earned savings to buy a z4! Shame on you, NETWORK MARKETER!

  • LB_LB

    hahaha ey antilampbergermalaysia, this network marketer very ‘keng’ man…. can join lampberger so fast and in 2 weeks, he can buy a z4!!!! wahhhh!!!! super man this network marketer!

    ey ey, network marketer, since you’re so truthful and all, why don’t you tell us your name la?

    hahahhahaa

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    Attention to all people…
    if u want to get rich easily, join LB, in few months u can buy luxurios car..
    DAMN bulshit…
    It is true my fwen LB_LB,
    they are very good in creating stories…
    we will see how far u guys gonna be..
    came on lah…!!! this is how ur sifu, Steven yeam teach…
    to be a cheater???
    beter i take stephen Chow as my sifu, HAHAHAHA????
    Shame on u la, u are wrong page to cheat people here…

  • BORNEO FREEMASON

    anti lampe berger malaysia
    yo dude…
    i blv ol of us wan 2 b rich…
    have big car..big house..even big boops..
    but do our “LB N MLM FELLAS” here noe…
    wat impact dey do 2 our country economy???
    ya..govermen can get high tax from em..
    BUT….
    THINK IF OL MY BELOVED MALAYSIAN JOIN DIS MLM..
    I DON NEED 2 xplain wat will happen…
    i think anti lb msia noe aint u???
    sell keropok lekor???
    dat a biznes man..
    aint cheap..honest..no force, i mean 2 da customer..
    hahahahaha….
    dude…
    do ya noe wat my fren told me…
    dis a high class biznes…
    aint it wont b play in restaurant..or public..
    it mus b in their office…
    hey man…
    dis jus away how they want 2 POISONING MY BRAIN…
    y should b force ppl 2 join??
    we live in democracy…
    so enjoy it…
    2 ol LUBANG BURIT N MENIAGA LARUT MALAM…
    GIV YA FAMILY EAT WITH YA “HOLLY CHEDDAR”
    KARMA….

  • i’m anti lb too!

    Hey guys, there is a way we can do to take down LB once and for all.
    They seem to have to MMA assurance thingy, which pays you 10 mil euros if the lamp do you any harm.
    So is 100 people use and go complain got problem, means DCHL has to pay 1000 euros to the 100 people! Good investment man, and at the same time, take down those morthefarkers! see how they die when their company is gone!!

  • LB_LB

    yeah man… lets do it.

    LB to die die die!!!!!!

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    yeah i agree with u man, mr anti lb too…
    but it doesnt work easily..
    like our fwen said up there, about advertising, they found out the best way to advertise to through the word of mouth…
    why dont we copy their marketing plan here to spread this story, and let our fwen and relatives know how bulshit they are..HAHAHAHAHA……..
    HEY LB losers out there, our day will come soon…

  • i’m anti lb too

    seriously, I’m using it now, i’m gonna complain about it soon…i of course need help….need more testimonies

  • Lb consumer

    I’m not a distributor of DCHL, nor am I siding anyone. I am a consumer of Lampe Berger products. I just want to say that the products ARE good, and it IS products from France [I've been to France to ask about it]. Same goes to the other products DCHL is distributing. The SPA is fantastic as well. As for the business or marketing plan or whatever it is, I don’t really care. My friends do join the business, some are successful some are not, so I’m neutral when it comes to that. As a businessman myself, I see network marketing as another industry. If you say its inethical, I don’t really agree. Even insurance, property agents, restaurants, etc. too have inethical way to make their money. Why don’t you complaint about that as well? Why don’t you do that because you don’t know what the hell is happening that’s why. Or even illegal money lenders, drug distribution, etc. these are in ethical business as well, why not make a campaign to against it? Why you are not doing it? Coz you are scared of the druglords to chop you, or wait, you don’t even have the money to do so. I’ve been doing business for over 30 years, I know mindsets and the way I look at things are different, so, say all you want, I don’t care. My business is running, my money is coming, I’m just stating my point of view about this is because I’m disappointed to see youngsters nowadays only know how to eat and talk. Like what Network Marketer said, read more useful books, read business sections in newspapers. It is because of young f*cks like a lot of you, HOT magazine is making a lot of money by breaking into people’s private life, now you tell me that’s ethical or not. Yes, its just an old man who has nothing to do, talking his way here, but at least I have achieved something that gives me the right to give my point of view. But how about youngsters like so many of you here who don’t even dare to think of doing traditional business, talk about doing business here, sell kacang putih, open this open that? Do you how much work and money is needed to do a business? I’ll be suprised that you know. I used to be young, I used to be like a lot of you here, but along the road, you will understand what I’m talking about, if you even open your mind to everything. I apologise if I’ve offended anybody, I’m not saying I’m 100% correct. I’m just stating my point of view as a businessman, and a human being who is disappointed at the next generation, who are suppose to be the generation of the future.

    -signing off-

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    what a sad story….
    are u dare to use that money to feed ur child n wife??????
    congrats…
    im believes that all religions in this world ask their follower to find the money, without cheating…
    i know, all LB members her are KIND, not cheating other people money, but how about ur downline???
    if they are cheating people to join this bisnes, arent u get commision 4 wat they done.. ur 10%, 19%, 38%, u also get that money rite?????
    if u not feel guilty to use that money, CONGRATULATION…..

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    dont remind us about about how we are going to face this world,
    even though we are not rich, as what u stated alot of up there, that ur income is 5-6 figures(is it true or not, or it just ur dreaming)
    but im hepy, because i still have the dignity, no find the money by making trouble to other people…. going to miror and see ur face first, before u want to remind other people….

  • LB_LB

    Dear LB CONSUMER,

    First and foremost, if you really had 30 YEARS of business experience, you wouldn’t even have had such shame to even utter such things. What you said does not justify your knowledge and experience but in return, only demonstrated your immaturity. Stop your dumb lectures on youngsters, there are many people here who had more experience than you. Come to think of it, I pity your children. Please tell them to join LB and teach them how to cheat. What a father! respect! hahaha!

    Somehow, i got a feeling that you’re actually Network Marketer impersonating as LB Consumer. You and Network Marketer, probably the same person, are the biggest laughing stock!!!

    what happened to your z4? got towed back by the bank already ar?

    hahaha!

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    Hi,

    This post is for the muslims who wants to know whether this type of MLM is Halal or not. I take this from Fikrah Doktor Salam section from Harian Metro News Paper.

    Q: SAYA dipelawa untuk menyertai aktiviti perniagaan pemasaran pelbagai peringkat atau multi level marketing (MLM) di sebuah syarikat dengan keuntungan yang dijanjikan berlipat kali ganda.

    Justeru, saya ke syarikat berkenaan untuk melihat sendiri pelan pemasaran yang dijalankan itu. Hati saya tertarik tapi masih ragu-ragu sama ada perniagaan MLM itu halal atau tidak di sisi Islam.

    Ini kerana sekiranya ada peserta di bawah saya atau downline, saya akan mendapat keuntungan yang dijanjikan itu, tetapi jika tiada, saya tidak akan mendapat apa-apa. Adilkah perniagaan seperti itu di sisi Islam?

    SUZIAH,
    Kuala Lumpur

    A: PERNIAGAAN MLM seperti di atas bukan bertujuan untuk perniagaan (menjual barangan dan sebagainya) tetapi hanya mencari downline semata-mata tidak dibenarkan dalam Islam.

    Ini kerana tujuan sebenarnya MLM adalah supaya barangan dapat dijual secara terus daripada pengusaha atau pengilang kepada pelanggan dengan harga yang murah kerana tidak membabitkan orang tengah (peruncit).

    Mencari downline semata-mata hanya menguntungkan syarikat terbabit kerana mereka mendapat yuran keahlian dan seumpamanya. Anda dibayar apabila downline berkembang. Ia adalah sistem piramid (skim Pak Man Telo) yang menyalahi undang-undang dan bukan MLM yang sebenarnya.

    Dr Abdul Salam Muhammad Shukri
    Penolong Profesor Kulliyah Ilmu Wahyu dan Sains Kemanusiaan, Universiti Islam Antarabangsa Malaysia

    —–
    This is my opinion(not try to offended other person) If there’s non muslims who already studied the way MLM works and mention that there’s something wrong with it, muslims would need to take heed on whether this is legal.

  • sYN_partner.

    hey.. y no more anti lampe berger blog alreadY? whr steven yip gone?? :P .. i wan see bad image!! come on..

  • I SYN

    Still got. LB cheat people wan ma. Steven Yip! What happen to your force to fight evil? Are you forming it now? I can’t wait to see man, I’ll quit SYN and join you when you are able to bring down SYN. You want to safe people ma right. Ask you all to come Sunway Lagoon on the 9th September also didn’t appear. I think you are busy planning on what to do la, I don’t blame you, nvm, we are always at HLA, go there find bring down SYN man, I support you.

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    hello mr I SYN….
    u r a bit of losers…
    i thinks u r mr. network marketer, but now u using the name of I SYN…for wat reason u chaged ur namE???????????
    because u already ‘Kantoi’ rite???
    at d 1st place deny u r LB members, after that saying that u r LB members,…
    dont u feel ashame, to face ur blog here????
    by using another name???
    HAHAhA….
    is that u sifu teach, to become a cheater???
    that’s y u still in HLA building..

  • anti lb

    yala, dun if you really are that good, be proud of yourself la, why wanna hide??!! Steven Yip, we support you! next friday, 21st September 2007, we all gather at HLA to bring down SYN!! Who’s with me?! anti lampeberger malaysia and steven yip, I’m sure both of you will be there right??! I’m all prepared already and I’ve gathered few of my anti lb friends already.

  • Stupid_LB

    21st September? guys wat time? waiting for this wonderful moments. i may supply some petrol bomb to burn…hahhaa…kamikazeeee……..

  • Soh

    Dun talk only, try show out this time ( ANTI LB GUYS ). Dun use excuse and reason for this time…. dun do thing where looser do…k~ cheer~… i will standby my camera there to shoot this memoey moment out.

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    im sory here my fwen anti LB….
    i think what u r planing is not good,
    we r not afraid,
    but we have 2 fight legally, goin 2 someone co. and making a riot is not allowed in this country,
    even if u want to do, ask a permit 1st…..
    to lb members, u r not win yet

  • http://qweqwe budDzZ

    everybody.. can u guys please tell me.. i’m still confused ’bout being a member of SYN.. my friend was asking me yesterday… and now, i’m lookin forward bout the SYN.. but i found so many negative post bout the company…is that bad to be an SYN member? I’m from indonesia… plz tell me more bout the SYN… i dun wanna make a mistake… yesterday i was saw the bussiness as a leader to success…but, after i search down on web, so many people talked ’bout cheating people? Is that rite? plz help my footsteps..

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    i think u should read what im posted here before BUDdZZ…
    if u think u can make it, u can join it,
    but u have 2 remember, u have 2 searching 5 people under u, and i can guarantee u those 5 people surely is ur close fwen n relatives, if they r join n they cannot make money, once they invest in DCHL co, they r start 2 blaming u my fwen, r u willing 2 lose them????
    im sure, the leader of SYN won’t tell u about their marketing plan, they insist that u should join this bisnes first, correct me if im wrong, once u join, they will start teaching u how 2 to ask ur fwen 2 join,
    u know what…b4 u coming 2 their co. they have already know alot of backgroud, if im not mistaken, the name is FORM HD…that’s y sometimes, they know what is ur dream car, ur family backgroud,etc…
    when u coming 2 their co 4 the 1st time…they will try to say something which is difficult 4 u 2 understand…Y????????
    because they want u 2 belive that everything they say r right….
    beware my fwen, if their co is well establish, y they r not advertise their co at the mass media, eg. tlevision.
    surely that there r something wrong rite???

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    if they can make alot of money by joining this bisnes, better they pay for ur registration….
    i hope u stay awy from this people.there r nothing easy in this world to get money

  • LB_LB

    Hey Budzz,

    When you already have doubt, means there is already something wrong with this business. Forget about LB and move on! Don’t be fooled when they tell you they are earning 5 figures nonsense shit. You have no idea how many LB’s bmws are being confiscated by the bank.

    To all losers of LB Members,

    For once, do something which worths your presence in this world. Stop cheating your parents hard earned money to invest in this scumbag, which in return used to cheat others. Shame on you! i wont be surprised if your family disowned you. Have some cow sense and know what is right! true dumbass!

    And to those monkeys on top, stop impersonating and trying to provoke anti LB members to do an illegal gathering at HLA. We’re educated and smart enough to know what is right and what is wrong. and besides, we have a life.

  • BORNEO FREEMASON

    wana get rich???
    find a job…
    n not cheat ppl around u…
    MLM???LAMPE BERGER???
    pls lah ok…
    if u wan make money…
    jus go 2 other country…
    we msian….
    we honest we our jobs…
    we aint force ppl even our family…
    anti lampe berger….
    b strong an anti lampe berger…
    coz we don need them in msian…
    ……….

  • Malaysian

    if it is a scam, why is it legal under the Act Of Direct Sales 1993 under Malaysia Laws? why our Prime Minister, Pak Lah recognized this bussiness, Steven Yeam and one of DCHL product user? For those Muslim, MLM is HARAM when you do the bussiness to find downlines to gain their money only.But here in SYN, we sells product directly and being legal distributors+build networks.that’s what we call MLM. Allah has said 9/10 pintu rezeki are from bussinesses. all depends on NIAT. aware this..If you say SYN is scam, Why do Malaysia Laws allow this? Are you trying to be against our Law? don’t show your stupidity. think carefully..

  • LB_LB

    Haha… stop being a fool lar. If you have some sense of self respect, please contribute something more truthful. For goodness sake, the whole LB works not because of the products, it’s about getting downlines and get them to join in order for you to get promotion and money. DOn’t try to act knowledgable here and buzz off! Shame on you!

  • Malaysian

    contribute something truthful ey? the product that has been produce since more than 100 years ago in France u wanna argue aa? what kind of quality can last that long, u think urself if u have brain lah.. u’ll shame ur self..
    anyway..bussiness won’t last if you only want to find downlines.anyway SYN dont look for downlines,it is looking for bussiness partners. if u dont wanna be one, so get off. no body will force u. SYN-DCHL have been 20 years and now all over the world. while DCHL continues to develop and gain success distributing all great quality products, wat u going to be and u think who u are in this world? no body care…
    SYN DCHL walk the talk..not like u, whose talk the walk. success needs knowledge..not to be ‘bodoh sombong’. if u want to talk and condemn MLM so much, make sure u’re a success person and someone in this world. if not, don’t try to act like stupid so-called ‘hero by talk so much

  • Malaysian

    this blog quite interesting lah. many anti LB talks a lot about the international company. hahahah…!
    so funny u guys creating a blur petition here and talk talk talk. hey, this bussiness has been distribute around the worlds lah. who u all think u are. all talks in blogs and being losers. go out and gain success ur own way if u dont wanna do the bussiness la. better than wasting time reading this blog. anyway…if this petition is legally right, where’s the leader? can u show your face anyway? why not? if u re right so why dont have guts to put ur face here ah.oops! SYN,steven yeam are legal under the law. that’s why his pic everywhere. and u?hurm..i wonder. he has become a success leader lah,and millionaire. and you? Steven Yip, are you a success and more than Steven Yeam? just wanna know.. i am just an ordinary person try to gain more info about wat’s right and wrong here. and curious… who’s cheater? people who do the international bussiness of MLM(Which legal), or who creates this blogs and so-called petition(Which is blur under law)?

  • NC

    hi malaysian i totally agree wit u. gain more info if u feel this SYN business is a scam, why the network growth rapidly and strongly? it is just 7years since Steven Yeam brought in the system & education the network growth tremendously stable and provide support to Malaysia economy from time to time.(Do u believe it?)

    SYN to date has donated more than RM 1 mil back to the community, question to those anti-mlm: which company has been practicing CSR (Corperate Social Responsiblity) by doing charity & donation with large scale of numbers? The recent Bt Gasing Charity Run (Step by step, organised by Nanyang Foundation, co-sponsor by SYN)more than 1000partner and friends turn up in the event.Which multi nasional company employees would willing to turn up in Sunday morning to join force in non profit events? Isn’t it better we sleep till afternoon?

    My advice to those anti-mlm: Obtain more info that provide facts not verbal and explain it in mature manners.This is the info a gain from my research: RZ Corp is Malaysia registered company with valid license.(RZ Corp (Lisence)–> DCHL (Office) –> SYN (Marketing & Business Development Team)More info below.

    1. RZ CORP IS DOING MLM CONCEPT BUT WHY IS NOT DSAM MEMBER?
    DSAM? Membership is not compulsory.

    2. WHY IS THERE IS NEGATIVE CONCEPTUAL ON MLM? DUE TO 1990′S BAD EXPERIENCE?
    MLM is often associated with Pyramid Schemes, Get Rich Schemes. Before the Ministry gives a Direct Selling License, we study the marketing plan and make sure it is not a Pyramid Scheme or in any way illegal.

    3. THERE WERE NEWSPAPER PUBLISHED (IN CHINESE PAPERS) BY MCA PRESIDENT MENTION MLM IS NOT LEGAL BECAUSE THERE ARE RULES AND REGULATION TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC.BUT ETHICALLY, DOES THIS APPLY TO ALL MLM COMPANY?
    MLM is legal and all Multi Level, Single Level and mail order businesses is subject to the Direct Selling Act, 1993.

    4. IS THERE ANY LEGAL LAW SUIT WAS FILE ON RZ CORP?
    None that i know of.

    5. THERE WAS A LOT OF INDIRECT NEGATIVE FEEDBACKS ON MLM BUT NO DIRECT HITS ON RZ CORP AKA LAMPE BERGER. QUESTION IS IT JUST RUMOURS TO SABOTAGE?
    Most MLM have a valid marketing plan and scheme. Unfortunately it is the Direct Sellers themselves that modify and dont adhere to the approved marketing plan. This is what causes the problems. There have been negative feedback on many MLM companies.

    For more info on the conversation above kindly contact:

    SURYA KUMAR
    Senior Assistant Director
    E-Commerce Unit
    Domestic Trade Division
    Ministry of Domestic Trade & Consumer Affairs
    Putrajaya, MALAYSIA

    Email: suryakumar@kpdnhep.gov.my
    Tel: +603-8882 6605
    Mobile: +6017-366 8501
    Fax: +603-8882 5858
    http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my

    Dear all anti-mlm, kindly take note on question no.5
    Read carefully and understand it. Try to confront ur fren who dispute the friendship and con ur gf. I’m sorry to hear that. But from wat i understand from how u put the situation.. It was u dont understand the marketing plan and the intention, my fren.
    If this business mean for conning people why, i mean WHY!! aren’t KPDNHEP did not receive any law suit complaint on RZ Corp aka SYN? Is because is LEGAL, PROVEN SUCCESS RATE, TRANSPARENT & STRAINGHT FORWARD BUSINESS, SYSTEMATIC, GLOBALLY LINK, INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS & ALL THIS REQUIRE HONESTY, SINCERITY & CLEAR INTENTION.

    Question to u all again, same question from malaysian.
    Why is Steven Yeam picture are all around showing his true support to Malaysian? Here is a tips for u.. Some ppl just say and do nothing, Some ppl will see others strive and yet he/she just see and wait (dont know he/she is waiting for, haha)& Some ppl will look for opportunity & non stop trying bcoz he/she belief wat he/she doing will provide him/her a future & to others as well(a true leader spirit)Or u would rather sit, wait & see?

    For those who anti-mlm, talk to the person who show the business to u.. Ask him/her how well u urself knows the company & how committed ur introducer are to the business. If he/she can’t tell u his/her intention (niat in Malay)How r u going to get involve in the same blur person who brought u in? Btw, if u are a true fren of the person who intro u, get to know more of wat he is getting into instead of pour cold water. For those who say CAN’T or NO to opportunity..let me ask u this ‘Are u been looking for opportunity to make legal money & automate income? (So call I’m looking for opportunity but dont knw wat to do, want to open business but no income or see how la – ‘see how la = typical Malaysian spirit which provide 0% of success rate’) Dude wake up! Yes, u may work like dog and till years u r still looking at same boss who dont want to leave the seat for u till his retire age. But wen u manage to step to the GM office and rest your butt on that leather chair..U R STILL WORKING FOR THE SAME COMPANY! So wen are u gonna enjoy ur early retirement? Hav u thought of financial freedom? This words sound simple but have u guys out there were doing something bout this? Ask ur self, my dear anti-mlm frens.Just if there is by any chance, i’m saying tat some of u guys out there are lucky and hav 200k to start a bakery or a cafe or start ur own business tat is promising return of investment than u can pour cold water to others. But till then have a open mind and a open heart.

    Do a lot of reading not just by hearing verbal info from failures & ppl who give up in business. U wanna follow A FAILURE IN LIFE? There is a lot more ppl who succeed in business y not look for their guidance? Read Donald Trumps & Robert T Kiyosaki’s journal. It will helps u. So more bull to pass out?

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    i give u A+ for ur so call believable essay.y shud i be da 1 get 2 know da person whose introduced me into diz LB thing? They shud be da 1 who doesnt suppose 2 trick ppl 2 enter into diz bullshit LB. Y do u ppl need 2 do da so call ‘form hd’ (correct me if im wrong) 2 find out ur future partners background n wat his like, b4 introduce diz bullshit LB 2 them?n den used it 2 trick them in joining diz biznez.dont u ppl feel bad bout urself.dey put their trust on u when they tell u bout their background..n u purposely used it by lying 2words them.u ppl shud b ashame of urself!

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    if u wan 2,d0 diz bisnes for d res of ur life.go ahead.d0nt ask naive people to join ur bisnes..ur wrong,if u think u can ask my fwen n family 2 join ur bisnes..hey dam stupid.i have already told them n i believe they wil spread diz story.t0 al people.who want to join diz bisnes.think again,if this stupid people.canot get the new future bisnes partner.they wont get any inc0me 4 dat month, dat y u c.diz lb member,make dog face.askin people 2 join diz bisnes.but once u join.they wil ignore u.u brag bout buying an awesome car den afta few mnths u still using public trnsport 2 go 2 DCHL BUILDING .dat juz so damn stupid.izit da bank didnt approvd ur loan coz u need 2 us ur family names 2 buy a car?coz ur so call 5figure income every month doesnt even exist.mybe for few mnth.but wat if ur partners didnt bring in any1 2 u..den wat wud happen 2 ur so call 5figure income..?it will b 3figure income o even 0income…uve said dat LB did not hav a pyramid system.try n draw it.from da top..u’ll get a pyramid shape.dun lie.ppl….*middle finger*

  • Malaysian

    pyramid ey? let’s talk about pyramid! yayy!

    anti LB says piramid system SYN working on. yeah, i think. u know why pyramid is tough right? it it most stable shape.

    so, example you who work for your boss…all employed with fixed income everymonth. waa…comfortable ah. you work so hard till death, your income become bigger and bigger maa?? no. hehe… you think who’s making the profit? your boss. your employer. while you become only employee till ever. all the leaders on top of u gain the profit and give u orders. all employees work under them until they retired. while in SYN, you create own time wave length in ur own bussiness. u re ur own boss. all the leaders at the top,guides when u need.they once also begin with zero, but then they at the top. everybody starts with zero efforts. it is not easy of coz. only losers give up and fail. think…

    who’s in the pyramid now?

  • Malaysian

    pyramid ey..?? let’s talk about pyramid! yayyy!!

    anti LB says piramid system SYN working on. yeah, i think. u know why pyramid is tough right? it it most stable shape.

    so, example you who work for your boss…all employed with fixed income everymonth. waa…comfortable ah. you work so hard till death, your income become bigger and bigger maa?? no. hehe… you think who’s making the profit? your boss. your employer. while you become only employee till ever. all the leaders on top of u gain the profit and give u orders. all employees work under them until they retired. while in SYN, you create own time wave length in ur own bussiness. u re ur own boss. all the leaders at the top,guides when u need.they once also begin with zero, but then they at the top. everybody starts with zero efforts. it is not easy of coz. only losers give up and fail. think…

    so…who’s in the pyramid now..?

  • Malaysian

    owh..i missed something. i know the ‘form hd’ thing. yess! it is about the background of the frens before introducing em to SYN partners.

    imagine if they don’t do research before bring people to the office…u think simply2 can bring to the office? bring some sort of stranger to introduce the precious LB? hohoho…not so easy. they have to know who they bring maa..it is to avoid partners to ask sensitive quest to the fren la. example, his father just died. it is written so that people would not simply ask about it straight la..it is not a trick, i think. it is a strategy. so what?

    SYN-DCHL is an international company. it’s spread all over the world. have been 20 years..it’s big. so…big company don’t take stupid peole to join simply. who join without thinking wat and how this bussiness..of coz you are the stupid one..but now u re blaming the company for ur failure…

    shame…shame…

  • Malaysian

    owh ya! anyway…i ve seen a DUKE talking and sharing probs with a new partner. see how the pyramids work. people on top support all partners even that he/she doesnt have nothing to lose if not doing it. why? they are leaders.not boss.they guide,not order u wat to do.this i multilevel marketing.

    who work as employee…hu…sadly, your boss will share ur prob? will he go down his office to see you…support…encourage you…wahaa!! i bet not. becoz wat? why should they? it’s you who work under then and desperate for money right…? they see workers like slaves. yeah…not all bosses are bad… but how many are so nice eyy…?

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    HAHA…
    about the form hd.. ur example his father just died..
    is that ur strategy??? i think thats not a strategy, thats form is jus a form that all of u use, 2 misuse what is ur fwen trust on u…
    hey loser…at least, we work in our BOSS co,
    we still have dignity, not ask a money from a naive young students, n naive people…and bring them 2 ur co. make a dog face ask them 2 join ur bisnes..
    by d way…u are new here rite???in this blogs???
    but y u appear???
    simply because u read the massage posted by BuddZ rite???
    not only in HLA building..here also u want to brain wash people minds..HAHAHA…
    read the previous comment from me on Aug 23rd, 2007 at 2:12 pm…
    that is the evidence prove that the LB members is a liar…maybe he is ur beloved SIFU…HAHAHAHAHAH :!o!:

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    dont be so proud about ur bisnes…
    if GOvt people serve 4 the Govt 4 d rest of his life, even though there is no bisnes, economy crisis…they still have a salary, and the most important things this salary that they get is by not cheating other people money…
    But How about u guys????
    No new bisnes partner, no money rite???
    Hey stupid, 1 day all of people in malysia will avoid u guys..
    n wen that day come, u will realise, u have nothing, except ur dreaming…HAHAHAHA

  • LB_LB

    hey Malaysian, SYN don’t take downlines but partners? wah telling us what pyramid is some more ar? Come on, stop being a foolish lamb of SYN man. Those who have gone to any of the LB Talks would have said the same thing as you. Don’t act noble here lar wey. you’re nothing knowledgable but mere parroting what others have taught you to say. Stop talking about problems and all man, if your downline has problem getting members, all the topline do is just to look for other downlines. AND in SYN, nobody cares about the products. It’s the recruitment and money game that keeps the products moving.

    well, you don’t have to talk so much. go on cheating and have fun cheating and telling lies about how much you earned and all so that you can cheat other innocent people into this scam. Go and cheat as much as can now before LB close down. I have seen too many people failed in LB and getting themselves in toubles with debt etc…

  • LB_LB

    real fools man these LB people, particularly that Malaysian. This poor innocent soul must have been brainwashed by SYN with all the 6 figures salary, driving bmws, financial freedom etc etc…. the one who brainwashed is bad enough but the one who got brainwashed is even worse. Shame on you, Malaysian, for not being able to distinguished what is right or wrong. What a fool.

    All you did is by going to some nonsense business talks and practically parrotting what you’ve been told and tried to elevate your knowledge? No man, you’re just elevating your immaturity and what not, your pure stupidity.

    Calling you dumb is an understatement. You know best what you are. I pity and sincerely hope all of you newbies out there NOT to join LB. Don’t get conned and involved in such SCAM.

    and to you, Malaysian, please buzz off and go on cheating people’s money okay! Again, shame on you and i seriously pity your parents. What a spastic child they have but what the heck, they have probably given up hope on such a useless person like you!

    To everyone else, please don’t join LB. Work your way up and preserverance will pay off! Thanks!

  • Stupid_LB

    Hey BulB head Malaysian…..u r talking too much about yr suprb DCHL….do u c the real things goin on under the SYN pyramid system??? so far i knw 4 of my close frens who had been cheat with this bullshit berger…..all of them telling the same story where they were promised by yr BLACK SUIT BLAZERzz that they will help to find ppl under them…what happen??? once they join it….thats it..they r ignored..n until now the 2500 burn like that…this is wat u call biz?? not all like u who experts in cheating ppl lar…the only HARD WORK pour by yr MLM members is CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING and CHEATING….dear malaysians out there, dont waste yr money and regret by joining this bizz…. they all money suckers….even they will ask u to use yr credit card to pay the RM2500 entrance fee…just like how they encourage me to do soo….when i told them i only f money to support my food…they ask me to borrow from frens o relatives.from here ull knw what they really expect from u…MONEY n MONEY n MONEY….once u join it ull talk and support yr dchl just like the BulB head Malaysian…ulll be mentally disturbed and ull start cheating to encourage yr frens to join it….thtz yr turning point of loosing yr frens…mind it guys….

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    haha…
    to all malaysian out there think again b4 u join this bisnes, this is the money that u gonna give for the use of ur family…
    if u dare 2 use it, go ahead

  • LB_LB

    oh yeah Stupid_LB! well said! you couldn’t have said it any better!

    ey bulb head malaysian, don’t waste your precious time talking here man, better use this time to cheat more people because, you simply don’t have much time left. hahaha!!!!

    LB are all losers and cheaters!

    Go suck steven yeam’s shoes lar!

    DAMN!

  • LB_LB

    For those who are currently in LB, please do a deed to yourself and the community. Have some self realisation and quit! Once they are no downlines, the whole system will fall!

    Quit LB!

    and again, let’s take some time off to laugh at that Bulb Head Malaysian! he is a pure steven yeam’s shoe sucker! Ey Buld Head Malaysian, suck more la, maybe he will give u more downlines. hahaha!!!!

  • LB_LB

    hahahha i just read.

    MENTALLY DISTURBED BULB HEAD MALAYSIAN…

    hahahhaa!!!!

    well said man!!!!

    hahahhaa…. spastic mentally disturbed fella!

  • NC

    LB_LB seems lik u still don’t understand much bout marketing plan..try 2 search for more info on the Y D HECK THERE STILL PPL JOIN WHILE U GUYS R WRITING BLOGS! not focusing on the surface issue but focus into the entire root issue here, dude.
    Hav u really understand y ppl join? Conned? Or confident in the business? Were u a biz partner b4? Can u define downline & biz partner? I’m more than happy to share..myb let me giv u my definition..then u giv urs k. Here goes downline, biz partner, co-worker (colleague)& sidelines defination

    Downline = ur subordinate (he/she works u get commission)right?
    but tis only happens wen d market is mature in demand (studied marketing? if not seek d knowledge)Quiz for u all: Which company is at this stage? Even major company open sub companies.(Y? study business management?)

    Biz partner = u may call them board of directors (watch Donald Trump? Look at them in meeting those are the biz partners u work CLOSELY WITH supporting each other)There is where v can open franchise globally!My fren, study the facts not d brags. U may feel envy them y cant u b lik them. And yes myb some of them manage financial estates poorly but is up to close members or close frens to advice.R u doing ur part?

    Co-worker = both of u working for the same boss.Y do u think he is hiring u to work 4 him? is not bcoz of ur cert, dude.u may b clever but he is smarter!Don u think so?

    Sideline = supports from the whole marketing team TEAM WORK, dude, TEAM WORK.would ur team leader motivate u to build ur own network? To built ur own financial freedom. Would ur biz partner support u n built ur financial freedom? Wat r u doing bout it?Again would ur co working on hundreds of partners who willing to share ideas from time to time?

    Well LB_LB? Wats ur understanding bout things above?

  • Malaysian

    => i have fun reading all comments…hehe…

    yeah…yeah..condemn Steven Yeam Network…not Steven Yeam the millionaire. yeah,probably there are people whose been so pushy to persue ppl to join, then after they join, never care about their partner/downlines. i dont deny that.whoever SYN did MLM like that are suckers. i hate em too. i understand if u guys anti LB feel. Coz many of my frens also like you guys. been cheat and felt betrayed by SYN. it’s not u guys’s fault.

    neither SYN are right, nor anti LB.. .i think everybody is not right or wrong. haha!

    but i think LB is a great product lah. more than 100 years in France maa…

    back to anti LB, good luck in ur life. you guys must have been cheated by the suckers in SYN or MLM before. pity on you…that time u re not so clever i think. but i don’t think this is clever too.hehe..

    ok.ok. i’ll buzz off this blog. see ya next time around. mmmuahx!

  • Malaysian

    :mrgreen: heehe… sometimes talking like this and fight words are so interesting…and made me smile..everybody talks emotionally..waa…i see d spirit burning.

    actually i’m not one of them, not also one of you..

    it’s just i’ve seen so many my close frens success in d biz, parents come and support them to the office once they become franchisee til they become marquis.. i did go to some events of SYN..and i know quite a lot, i’ve seen them succeed.and they are my close frens.

    i also have close frens who failed. all they said like you guys said. but i understand why. coz they have been brought to the office by some sucker in the network. some even chase my fren to her/his home! wahaa…so scary la MLM ppl. then my frens become ‘FOBIA’ to any MLM and i guarantee they wont wanna hear about it anymore.and they are my other close frens too.

    i am a stranger but i am happy with my life. i love making frens and knowing many types of ppl.and creates memories in life. leading to colourful life ahead. i’m not anyone’s side. i’m on my side only.heee.. :smile:

  • Somebody

    How much afford tht u hv put into the biz is how much u will get, when u re a failure in the biz, juz dun blame others…..plz admit it as a man. If u re sitting thr, waiting for the money to drop down from the sky, go ahead and wait, dun simply bullshit about SYN whr u din really know bout it.
    If u re hoping to gain help from the upline, dun juz sit n wait, u should sound out and seek for advices…waiting n waiting will juz make u paralyzing.
    If they are cheating ppl’s money, y thr re many successed from the company? they act as if they re? Re u sure for tht? Do they need to act to u guys to believe it?

  • NC

    Thank you for the compliment on my sharing.Haha sorry if i have to quote u on the word naive students, naive ppl, serving the Gov, dog face, dignity, public transport, family loan, business loan, personal loan, wen the days comes u will realise,cheating, dreaming, FORMHD, not a get rich fast scheme. So u may not get the picture wen i ask u to read question no 5. And the rest of the article.

    From tat i’ll answer u, goal setting, leadership in business, clean and transparent business, business owner, global operating network (huge international network – operating in 11 countries), legal business, knowledge seeker, open mind, prestige, exclusive & well known company & product.

  • NC

    Thank you for the compliment on my sharing.Haha sorry if i have to quote u on the word naive students, naive ppl, serving the Gov, dog face, dignity, public transport, family loan, business loan, personal loan, wen the days comes u will realise,cheating, dreaming, FORMHD, not a get rich fast scheme. So u may not get the picture wen i ask u to read question no 5. And the rest of the article.

    From tat i’ll answer u, goal setting, leadership in business, clean and transparent business, business owner, global operating network (huge international network – operating in 11 countries), legal business, knowledge seeker, open mind, prestige, exclusive & well known company & product.Hav u notice tat?

  • NC

    Thank you for the compliment on my sharing.Haha sorry if i have to quote u on the word naive students, naive ppl, serving the Gov, dog face, dignity, public transport, family loan, business loan, personal loan, wen the days comes u will realise,cheating, dreaming, FORMHD, not a get rich fast scheme. So u may not get the picture wen i ask u to read question no 5. And the rest of the article.

    From tat i’ll answer u, goal setting, leadership in business, clean and transparent business, business owner, global operating network (huge international network – operating in 11 countries), legal business, knowledge seeker, open mind, prestige, exclusive & well known company & product.

    But do notice tat?

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    i think what my friends here LB_LB said is right, dont waste ur time here, go 2 HLA buliding cheat and suck more people money….ur here give ur dumb point of view, without any sense of humanity, what 4????
    beter go 2 HLA building invite more new bisnes partner 2 join ur bisnes…
    Hey NC n somebody….
    dont try 2 be like u are knowledgeable, we r not stupid like u r..
    hey somebody…did u said that when people quit their job and join dis bisnes, , everyday attend 2 d building, go 2 the classes they r not work hard enough???
    hey come on lah, is not about their effort actually, its about ur bulshiting word, cheating more people, jus 2 get d commision from them,
    hey, if they cannot brings any benefit 4 u guys, what 4 u guys gonna help them, am i rite???…
    no need for u 2 define anything….im stil wondering about ur bisnes, do u publish ur precious bisnes 2 d mass media??hey man, ur income is 5figures man…IF U HIDING A SHIT IN UR HAND, ONE DAY ALL THE WORLD WILL KNOW, SOONER OR LATER….

  • NC

    Btw, there is some problem uploading my article, hmmm I wonder y? But anyway, knowledge is to be seek not brags on it. Wasn’t tis forum to voice out ideas? Is it wrong to fight for something tat u strongly believe in? Lik how u believe in SYN is a scheme..but y there r ppl still join SYN? How can a scheme operate in 11 countries legally? My fren, is bcoz is not a scheme but a genuine business! So r u using EQ here or IQ?
    And wats the risk and harm, by knowing more on ideas of legal marketing & business development unless u prefer to work for ppl the rest of ur life? V hav been tought to study hard and work for good company and get better salary. Well let me tel u this my fren, only a few profession will get u out of tis rat race (rat race = daily routine, work for money)

    1. Professional = dr, engineers (r u 1 of them?)
    2. Business owner & Property owner = giant co, CEOs (r u 1 of them?, Donald Trump & Bill Gates is 1 of them)
    3. Entrepreneurs = business builder (r u 1 of them?, Robert T Kiyosaki is 1 of them)

  • NC

    U may ask tis question – Aren’t v all doing the same? Work for ppl is the most dignitious act of life ( this is been programmed in to our brain since school days but y the heck still there r ppl wanna do their own business? open their own shop & etc..Y? If ur salary is 5k per month unless u dont hav any commitment (car, house & etc) u may save quite a number of money for ur EARLY RETIREMENT PLAN.Wen do u think u wanna enjoy life fully since u r working for ppl (no freedom of time & freedom of money)U may answer, I do enjoy my life after work, with my MC leave, annual leave & etc (but wen u really calculate back ur salary is only worth a few ringgit per hour by working for ppl or co.) Bill Gates’s income 6k per minute. How he did tat? Marketing, my fren.He is just a drop out college student but manage to team up programmers around the contacts but market it on his own name.U may say again, arent wat SYN is doing? No, SYN provides a wonderful system where by U start from zero (tat is wat Bill Gates did, a drop out chap but carry a huge dream & idea with him)build the business & in the end it generate automate incomes. U may say, I’m not tat good or there is no more market & ideas to build – SYN is building a future market.Unless u r not a marketing person than u may not understand it and accept the faith of WROOFING behind ur boss! Is this the dignity of the real u? Shielding behind of a leader instead of becoming 1? Wen is ur dignitious moment? Earn 10k per month or help others to earn the same amount u r earning of 10k? My fren, there is no others network provides tat but u can find it in SYN.Would tat seem naive to u? :roll: Wat u wanna say bout it?

  • NC

    I totally agree wit malaysian on the corperate world setup. Even in medium co setups u still work for ppl who open a business or employs u to work and run the business for the boss – The boss will do plannings where to open another co or plan trips to overseas for holidays. And v? Sitting a behind the working station ‘dreaming’ wen is our time to b lik him (the boss)Wen? Ask ur self..Y how hard is d business is he still wanna become a boss? (*chuckle* bcoz he is stupid?, hehe arent u more dumb than him? Working under a stupid boss. U may answer, I rather work for d rest of my life, waiting for my pay check every month, hav a fix hour of goin back home, watch tv & etc. – my fren, tis is wat i call U R IN THE RAT RACE!) Read ‘Who move my cheese?’ & ‘Rich Dad Poor Dad’, U may found some general ideas may practice legally in Malaysia!.

    Again, the SYN business is so transparent and simple but yet they dont understand it and misjudge it! Tell me which co let u inherit ur position in the co now to ur generation? For those who give up in the business – Y u join the business in the 1st place? U may hav confront ur fren (introducer) or his/her upline to voice out ur problems..if u think, is better to keep it to ur self then y this blog? is it because u r still not clear on wat u getting on than seek the answer not by following 3rd party conveying msg. U, urself has been involve into the business than u noe more than them but remember ‘pour cold water’ paragraph? Read it.There is proven success rates if u just listen & follow the system guidence.And not to forget honesty to ur self and to others.If u still think tis business is a scheme, y is the business is growing? Should it to b stop already? Is more than thousand of biz partners across Malaysia tis is not include 11 other countries. The recent International Member Exchange (IME 2007) where 10,000biz partners arrive in d venue! Just imagine those who cant get d flight tix to come here, Malaysia! Flight tix is not cheap dude, r this ppl stupid or crazy? If u thing is stupid, think again u r saying to this 10k pax of ppl.Think about number – try to ask MYR1 from tis ppl how much u get? Tis is just simple mathematical theory but if u understand the actual marketing plan, u find business development. My fren, study math, study business & study marketing or shall i say, study n put it in practice (legally).U may ask wat bout marketing ethics? Yes, is ethically correct -remember I’m talk bout individually ethics.So again (2 way comm) if v speak the same knowledge in result v may speak d same language but different interpration. So how far is ur understanding? Using IQ or EQ now?

  • NC

    So, do u still think this is cheating? Then y the company is still operating in most major city and 11 countries? Shouldnt b there is law suit against it? My fren, the product is ISO certify non toxic to human inhaling & cover by EURO 6mil insured.By any chance any person get intoxicated by the product & certify by doctor, u may claim to b EURO6 millionaire!(But a sick 1 la, Haha – is just a joke :lol: )Which company dare to insured its product wit MYR 1mil? Tell me, and this is EURO6 mil!Tis is not self claim. U want proof? Look for ur ‘disputed’ fren.

    My fren, FORMHD is similiar wit application letter tat u filled during ur 1st interview wit d co u working wit now. Y d heck u so willingly to fill it (wen ur best fren fill it for u, u don wan)wen u look at the details of ur application letter and d FORMHD, u did not realise u fren is showing u a lifetime opportunity to change ur life to a better 1.Tis shows how narrow minded u r!But u fill in the application letter & happily or nervously handed it to d person who interviewed u. But wit ur best fren u feel u been violated? LOL

  • ejam love MLM n SYN

    wah la wei!!!
    hye..so lots of crap things that u guys talking bout..hahah..let me explain at u 1st,i u r really have a bisnez mindset,u r going to be okay if i tell u that multi level marketing is just a good industry nowdays..nvermind if u like to open ur own factory,ur own boutique or workng under people n achive ur dreams..yes,i one of SYN members that u called a cheater…nvermind..its all just about respect..if u dun like our company,nvermind..its ur choice..MLM industry its not wrong,but a few cmpany ruined up this industry..let we talk bout biz for those wnt to be a bizman..if u want to open ur own cmpany,how much capital u need?if u r from poor background but u just have a great idea how to build up a biz but the problem is the capital,wut u r goin to do?just let ur creative brain n potential burn away just bcos u have not enough mney to build a biz?i dun think so..atleast u r going to lend somebdy’s mney rite?u r going to take a risk rite?but nvermind..i respect this people bcos they r dare to fail..i don’t like such people who just go wit the flow in their life,going to school,den unversity den after grad,u going to have ur job(if u r lucky)…so,u r going to work until ur old n waitng 4 ur EPF..i think u cant do anythng u like..u will nver rich if u r working under people or a cmpny..ir u r saying all the leaders in mlm cmpany espcially SYN/DCHL r cheating n gained their dwnline money,u r wrong..there have a system n depends the system manage the mney..i ddn’t said all mlm cmpany is gut,but 1st,u must understand the MARKETING PLAN..so u can understand where’s ur mney goes..u hates network marketing n mlm?…mmm..u know how starbucks which from seattle have their store around the world?u know from seattle,it goes to arab saudi,thailand,s’pore,indonesia n malaysia,den,in mlysia,how come it can spreads to penang,johor,ngri sembilan,s’ngor n k.lumpur,den try to thinks in kl,there have starbucks at klcc,midvlley,sg.wang,the curve and kl plaza..try to draw,from seattle,downs to other country,den spread to the state,den goes to town..what u can see..its multilevel marketing/network marketing..u knw evry single cent that u paid for a drink at starbucks will goes to seattle?u knw how cme the bring starbucks frm seattle till klcc?thats what we call network marketing for ur information gentlemen..if u r said all MLM r a pyramid system,people at top will get all his downline’s mney,cheating them,wutso ever…u look at other cmpany..i mean not mlm’s cmpany..whose at top?ceo..rite?after ceo mybe manager,after manager there have supervisor,afterthat normal employee..hw many ceo’s?hw many mnagers?its look like pyramid system also rite?try u to think if there something happens to the cmpany,u think ceo will sell his car?his property?nop,but he’ll fired his workers..n den how bout his unlucky rejected workers?how they cntinue their life while ceo got nuthin to think bout the cmpany’s problem anymore?..im a accountant..now im quiting my job n do this biz..at SYN..one more things,try to get BUSINESS MAGAZINES JANUARY 2007 ISSUE..there have my LOVE CMPANY’S PREVIEW N need to WATCH CMPNY’S IN MLYSIA FOR THE SUCCESS NETWORK MARKETNG CMPANY…see,other industries can respect ntmork marketing n my cmpany,y u guys can’t?..u’ve said syn people are head hunters,looking a people to cheat n ask to join in the cmpny,IF U R SO GOOD,TRY TO FIND ME A BIZ WITHOUT LOOKING N FIND PEOPLE..TRY TO PROVE ME..even in banking also looking for people..tell me wut biz nit no people..n dun feel ashamed if u also can be network marketing or mlm cnsumer if u go to starbucks,mcdonalds,kfc n everythings…LAMPE BERGER its our product,like nike,reebok,honda n all the things..please read more about biz n lookng at ur environment gentlemen…evrythngs are involve in mlm n network marketing..please understand what is MULTILEVEL MARKETING is all about bcos all of the people r use it…

  • NC

    Public transport is the most convenient transport to move around the heart of KL. Wats wrong with tat?Plus this business is in building stage (remember Bill Gates, zero chap just full of ideas and dream – do u know how much he contribute in his CSR program? Say he is a liar but is for u to find out)So, back to building stage, most of them are looking for oppurtnuity (Arent u?)and try to save and spend wisely whislt in every business is the same! How u manage co turn over, expenditure, ROI, time frame wen can earn back, sales target & etc.U may understand tis if u r from sales line or management line.Unless u r none of both? Then no wonder u dont understand it and stubborn! Haha Plus tis business is not a get rich quick scheme..How long did Bill Gates build the business? Case study for u guys out there: Micrsoft started off with Windows 3.11. How much is the price back then? After number of years of evolution comes Windows Vista. How much is the price then?Y Windows beat Oracle, Linux, Mac & the others of numbers of sales? Demand & marketing method. Mac is very expensive but y still there r demand? Marketing method. Generally they market it via media ads (tv, press conference & etc) This is 1 way communication – Company A –> advertise to mass media, get it? Pros: Look nice, become market influencer and trend.Cons: mass media involve huge $$$ and does not promise number of sales but help to support sales.SYN builds via human interaction (trust, belief, attitude & etc)This is 2 way comm – Human A –> Fren A, Fren A –> Human A.Get it? Pros: Genuine fren & biz partners Cons: misinterpretation of words may occur from Human A & Fren A, misunderstanding may occur between Human A & Fren A, misunderstanding on the business marketing plan.Tis is not ‘easy money scheme’ but future finance freedom.Then u might ask was is wat v r doing now? Working for others? Yes, u hav ur point but wen r u goin to own ur own business?A year later? R u close to it?

  • ejam love MLM n SYN

    hey anti lampe berger malaysia who had said ‘.im stil wondering about ur bisnes, do u publish ur precious bisnes 2 d mass media??hey man, ur income is 5figures man…IF U HIDING A SHIT IN UR HAND, ONE DAY ALL THE WORLD WILL KNOW, SOONER OR LATER….’
    come on man..u r so outdated person la..go n ask ur frens who like to buy MALAYSIAN BUSINESS MAGAZINES ISSUE JANUARY n read it!one more things,last 2 week,we had a international members exchange in sunway lagoon..about 10k people all over asian come to malaysia n we had a tourism minister come n join us..so,u wanna say that our minister is also a stupid person?u think malaysian gverment is so stupid to made DIRECT SELLING ACT?adoiii…

  • NC

    So, do u still think this is cheating? Then y the company is still operating in most major city and 11 countries? Shouldnt b there is law suit against it? My fren, the product is ISO certify non toxic to human inhaling & cover by EURO 6mil insured.By any chance any person get intoxicated by the product & certify by doctor, u may claim to b EURO6 millionaire!(But a sick 1 la, Haha – is just a joke :lol: )Which company dare to insured its product wit MYR 1mil? Tell me, and this is EURO6 mil!Tis is not self claim. U want proof? Look for ur ‘disputed’ fren.
    So, do u still think this is cheating? Then y the company is still operating in most major city and 11 countries? Shouldnt b there is law suit against it? My fren, the product is ISO certify non toxic to human inhaling & cover by EURO 6mil insured.By any chance any person get intoxicated by the product & certify by doctor, u may claim to b EURO6 millionaire!(But a sick 1 la, Haha – is just a joke :lol: )Which company dare to insured its product wit MYR 1mil? Tell me, and this is EURO6 mil!Tis is not self claim. U want proof? Look for ur ‘disputed’ fren.

  • NC

    My fren, FORMHD is similiar wit application letter tat u filled during ur 1st interview wit d co u working wit now. Y d heck u so willingly to fill it (wen ur best fren fill it for u, u don wan)wen u look at the details of ur application letter and d FORMHD, u did not realise u fren is showing u a lifetime opportunity to change ur life to a better 1.Tis shows how narrow minded u r!But u fill in the application letter & happily or nervously handed it to d person who interviewed u. But wit ur best fren u feel u been violated?LOL

  • NC

    And then y u worry & keep talking bout no biz partner no money, or no ppl to con, no money. U r not in d business how u know so much? Or u just knew it from a fren of a fren? Remember 2 way comm? Would u dare to say u know more than wat i mention n yet u dont want to know bout d business, how it works, wats its ROI bcoz u dont hav d confident in ur self in result u dont understand y SYN is growing rapidly & strong? So shall i say u still don understand wat is SYN all about.

  • NC

    Oh well i lik to congrat u of having tis forum. I realise tat u r doing advertising 4 google. But is tis wat u want? If ppl click to join ur affiliate program then u may earn a small percent of commission but if dont? And u may only earn up 2nd tier of affiliate program. My fren, even giant company is doing the mlm but diff marketing method but u joined! Is it because there no need to fork out ur own capital? Yah u mayb hav a point but how long u may achieve ur target? Or u did not set a target at all? R u a businessman or a business follower? Nothing wrong or right between both coz both is business.. 1 faster than d other only.

  • NC

    U mention sooner or later ppl will noe..hmm I wonder wen? Or u rather wait till more ppl noe the truth of the business is genuine n u guys 3rd party is just saboteur n show bull’s S?

    Well do u still think i’m knowledgeable? Do u read ‘ Who move my cheese?’ & Rich Dad Poor Dad, u may find interesting ideas on doing business & legally practice in Malaysia!. Or u rather sit & work hard lik tail wager and stand with bosses nags. Well ask ur self tis ‘am i in the rat race?’
    How can u start a business? By dreaming? No, my fren. Dream, Planinng & Action.Which 1 hav u done? Or done half way? Then keep on dreaming!To build a business needs capital.Where can u get capital? Family? Bank? Fren?

  • NC

    Dreaming is a innovated goal setting, where dream is just dream only belief & action would spark into realisation – Annonymous

  • http://qweqwe budDzZ

    yeah… thx to all of you guys… i dunno what i did was gud choice… but i reject them…. u guys quite right… last night, after i research on the web, i choose not to join the SYN… i told him last night… n guess what.. he said: “ok budz, but can we meet up first n talk?”.. i guess so.. he won’t quit easily… i said, its ok…we can meet at the cantin on the college(he is my senior in my college n we r in the same fac).. n he asked me: Ok,why?…u have a problem? we can solve it together… n he started to tell bout how hard he got 5 million rupiahs to be a member, n to make a gud investment for his future life…he said it was a very gud bussines,.. many of the member are from the big2 company in the town, have already a gud salary for life, n that was still not enough for his life.. so many of them leave the job n prefer to be a member…he said, that his salary for 8 years back when he was work in the early job was the same as doin’ the SYN bussiness for 1,5 years…I said, that was very nice… but… i have already read what u guys wrote above… I wanna ask u guys aumthin? Who r u guys? are u all from the loser of the SYN member? why u guys have known alot? Actually, i wanna say that you guys are very right bout the system.bcoz, i really2 threatened like what u guys tell early… it was their system… thx for the shared.. But… actually.. i have my opinion… actually MLM bussiness is not 100% bad… if u have guts, skill, hardwork(to make people show their bucks), speech fluently n poisonly, it will make u successful in d bussiness..the problem is… Just a few people can reach that part…Most of the member was got lost… So.. i think that i’m not ready for this.. i’m not a gud speaker… i’m not gud at lying or sumthin’… actually they r not 100% lying… They r rite about there r successful brainwasher people in their member… but, that was not for everybody… it was juzz for a few member… R u guys please tell me? r there any of u have got to be a member? and lost the money? are there really so few people get success? maybe it was just becouse u do nothing after u get ur member? coz, i think before u join, u must be really ready for selling the stuff and very hardworking for make a closing… if you do nothing or juzz quit for the first time, it will cost nothin..So plz tell me more bout ur story…becoz, i think i can’t juzz go away for the SYN… i thought he still don’t quit bout making me 2 be a member… he still makin’ a gud contact for me.. actually, i don’t really close to him… but, in the early days, he was became so nice to me… like, asking me for a footsal game for tomorrow like he always asking me like that, coz he never asked me bout the footsal be4…n he dont forget to tell that this was really not have any connection for the bussiness… haha… (but why u asking me right juzz after the speechdays?) this is my stories… hope can be usefull for you guys back there…

  • ejam love MLM n SYN

    thanks to NC to explain bout life n biz..after i think,i think those people who r talking bout crap things bout syn is also a member who did not doin it well in the biz..i ddnt say who join dis can be succesfull,its all about ur effort,the system just the way for u to get it..or i think u guys from other mlm cmpany who want to t-down our cmpany?lets be matured n think big..lots of reading bout dis industry,or i sggest u just read ‘rich dad poor dad’ by robert t.kiyosaki..or ‘dare to fail’..haiya lenchai..plz be matured kay..if u hate syn,nvermind but plz put ur mouth shut kay..for budzz,just try to open ur mind ok..even u like it or not,just open ur mind,think bout it,n do lots of research bout our cmpany..but PLZ REFER TO CORRECT PERSON..if u wnt to b succed,u shud ask frm the people who aredi succed..not hear n asking from people just know nuthing or ‘rubbish’…tq

  • ejam love MLM n SYN

    AFter i read evrythng that was wrote above,i can feel that u guys from a syn also,hw cme u knw bout our biz?duke,marquis,rm2.5 k n evrythng?i thot u guys from a failure biz partner..thats y u react like that..i got it..haiyark..u shud learn sumthng..not evrythngs is gud..i ddnt say my company is too gud,what is important,how u manage ur ownself..don’t hope so much frm ur uplines..its our biz,so,who’s going to help if not ourself?am i rite?..

  • LB_LB

    Stop all your crap man!

    A civilised person would know what is right and wrong.

    Good Luck and may you all cheat more people!

  • LB_LB

    hey budz, you made the right choice. COngrats!

    all they say and all they posted here are all scripted.

    They are just parroting what their uplines taught them to say!

    Stupid Hypocrit!

    Buzz off man, you LB CHEATERS!

  • SYN supporter

    To Know & Not To Do Is Yet To Know

  • LB_LB

    Wow To Know & Not to do is yet to know? wow… must be another tagline taught by the lousy SYN! trying to be noble again?

    try jumping down from a building. Everyone says it’s fatal. But you never do yet rite so you yet to know. So, why don’t you try?

    Go confined to your HLA Building and cheat people around you.

    Over here, you’ll never succeed!

    Quit LB!

  • SengAun Ong

    I rather want to buy lamb burger, at least it can fill up my stomach! Although highly educated, they still believe in LB. Insider secret: LB is not legally liable of the deal (so called franchise) between uplines and downlines! From legal point of view it is very simple and there seems to be nothing wrong: LB sells goods to some people (uplines). Before people jump into LB or any such money-sucking pyramid, we need to educate them:

    http://www.tipskey.com/consumer_alert/read_this_before_joining_mlm.htm

  • ejam love MLM n SYN

    if we are cheating people,ok,nvermind..just leave us alone..just do ur things ok LB_LB..if u think u r so nice,not cheatng people,hate our cmpany,just ignore it..day by day lots of people join us,so,just leave us doing our business kay..just save ur own butt n shut up..so,its going to be stop..or u call n make a report wth police,media n goverment..no needt to confront it in dis crapy web site,think n act!go reaport n investigate ok!thanks my fren.. :mrgreen:

  • ejam love MLM n SYN

    u knw what we call for u LB_LB?like bahasa ‘katak dibawah tempurung’..u’ve got nuthing to say maa..u said our leaders taught them to say??hahah..we have brain also,have to eyes,two ears n we use it!..do research..not just said other people’s things bad things..MIND UR OWN BUSINESS k…y,u thing u gut enough?so,use ur gut things to confront us,but not in the website,but reality..ok?..i want to see it..dare?

  • ejam love MLM n SYN

    unmatured thinking la u LB_LB..y u dun said mcdonalds cheating us?y u dun said starbucks,kfc,n other brands cheating u?they r using multilevel marketing also..n u also r mlm consumer..haisshhh..mirror ur face 1st maaa…

  • SYN supporter

    Agree with ejam love MLM n SYN. Btw, ejam love MLM n SYN it is ok tht thr re ppl dun believe in it, if not, we dun hv ppl selling Chao Kueh Teoh or Mee Rebus to us……

  • SYN supporter

    Agree with ejam love MLM n SYN. Btw, ejam love MLM n SYN it is ok tht thr re ppl dun believe in it, if not, we dun hv ppl selling Chao Kueh Teoh or Mee Rebus 4 us……

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    congratz BudDz………
    u r rite man…Lb_Lb..
    everything posted there by LB members NC is copied….
    i feel bored reading ur precious comment that u get from ur company,
    If i am the examiner i give u A1 for the most excelant essay and i suggest the title should be “HOW TO CHEAT PEOPLE’s MONEY”
    HAHAHA…..so funny,
    we r not hiding in this blog la man…
    this is 1 of our sources to tell the world that u guys r no 1 cheater in the world..
    i think u r rite SYN supporter. if there is no people join ur bisnes, there is no people out there selling cahr kue teow n mee rebus…
    at least man, they get the money in etchical way, not cheating other people money…
    what???sunway lagoon, u guys book all the resort, similar like sentosa at S’pore rite???
    my fwen go there la dear, not 7000. they say not more than 500 people, i think that is not ur new bisness partner, but they is ur poser colleagues , want to get rich by suckin people money…HAHAHAhA!!!!!!!!!!!

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    haha budzz..
    that is so called follow up, they make a nice face, even u r not close 2 him, what 4???
    am i rite… they prefer to make a dog face, rather than the human face, this is because, they want u 2 join la….
    when u join n put fully cocentration n effort, if u failed, they start blaming u, at that moment, u will see, how the dog face will turn 2 the pig face…
    they r same, without having any sense of humanity, cheating people, at 1st, ask u 2 join 4 2345k, after that poison ur brain to invest in 30k, y?? at the 1st place they did’t tell u about that???
    IS that u call strategey????????????????

  • LB_LB

    Hey Ejam-love-MLM-n-SYN,

    if you have brains in the 1st place, you would not have joined LB. That says it all! So, I won’t be too surprised if you see something else when you mirror yourself!

    and again, all you have mentioned is donald trump, robert t. kiyosaki…. now macdonald, kfc, starbucks. what a fool!

    Go widen your knowledge man. If you think this world only revolves around your LB MLM stuffs, then let it be. There are other more prominent MLMs around unlike LB. LB is a SCAM.

    And you, being a cheater yourself, don’t deserve any dignity.

    wow, now trying to pursue with threat? see you face to face etc? is this what’s being taught by your SYN again? wow… using force now ey. Don’t be a fool lar, you foolish cheater!

    As i made my stand again, please go to HLA yourself, you will then know what is real and what is not! At least of cos, if you’re knowledgable enough and not being fooled and duped by 6 figures salary la…the basement full of BMWS lar… damn… so steretype man!

    QUIT LB!

    and for you ejam, you can love and stick to your Steven Yeam all you like! Don’t con others!

    QUIT LB!

    again, good job budz for staying away from LB! your future is very bright ahead!

  • LB_LB

    hahahaha!!!!

    Another foolish comment made by ejam!!!

    7000 ppl turn up? ohh, it’s actually less than 500.

    wow, quite a bit of variance ey. That means when you tell ppl u earning 6 figures is actually probably just 3 la i guess. Good stuffs there man. What a way to cheat people!

    Thanks for exposing yet another attempted cheat by the losers.

    Thanks anti lampberger.

    QUIT LB.

    Syn supporter,

    are you looking down at mee rebus and char quar teow people? Is this another tactic taught by your upline to lure people to join LB? If you don’t join LB, you’ll end up as char quar teow and mee rebus mamak guy rite?

    Shame on you! grow up man, you fool!

    Quit LB!

  • NC

    haha very funny, anyways thanks for d A1..u really think i copied the stuff from other ppl? or v a hav seen d reality of d economy & business development growth? All I did was just quote back ur words on naive understanding on business & marketing development.

    budzz, here is my advice to u. ask ur disputed fren ‘howw clear is he on wat is he getting into b4 asking ppl joining d business’ SYN is representing prestigious product in the market and v DO NOT NEED PPL WHO HAV 0% IQ to join company.I believe he was just sharing his ideas n wat he sees in this business.

    Well u may ask who am I? I’m just a businessman in a young age own 3 companies in the same time of doing this business.I must agree u may not c wat is new market or wat market is out there to do business. I believe u guys is just a bunch of student (fresh grad) n thinking wat ur cert of diploma or degree may worth.. Think again, budzz i may not noe how is ur country business license operate but i would advice u to look for ur country gov body to clarify how is DHCL came operate in ur country. I must admit I did a lot of research (from gov bodies & NGOs) b4 i join in tis business.Ur fren must hav been new or hav not fully undestand wat is d company vision & missions. U worked for a company multi nasional company b4? Hav u been attached with a medium setup company b4? U realize tat u hav been expose wit pyramid shceme till u don’t know bout it!!!

    Difference between

  • NC

    Try 2 draw out tis if u think i’m lying.. 1 headmistress/headmaster/principal, 5 – 7 deans (Dean of Economics Studies, Dean of Business Studies, Dean of English Communication & etc..)10 – 15 Teachers/ Professors/ Lecturer, 100s of students. My fren tis the most basic setup of a school/college/university. D head oversees everything, dean assigned a few lecturers to assist him, a few lecturer given classes to monitor.Then come to students.

    U r lack of FACTS, my fren. N start BRAGS around. LOOK FOR THE FACTS! S’pore IME was a great event..wat number pax? 500? 7000? Minimal pax to book d whole Sentosa Island is 3000pax! There was 5000 turn up la, dude! Get the facts right! It was broadcast in S’pore tv channel coz we had a charity programme wit d IME.Wat fren of a fren story u r telling? Tat is y U HAV 2 ASK QUESTION TO THE RIGHT PERSON.U were not there ur self n u trusted a failure in a business wat does it makes u? Dumb S with a F! (failure)

    Again, did u ask ur fren Y D HECK HE WENT TO A EVENT WEN HE DONT KNOW WAT IS IT ALL ABOUT? Tat event is for d biz partners & true frens from all around Asia Pacific to hav a gathering & sharing ideas & experience through out the journey & d process in d business from all 11 countries where, v hav DCHL ofis there. Remember if tis is a scam Y D HECK IS STILL OPERATING LEGALLY IN 11 COUNRTRIES?

  • NC

    Haha (laugh to myself) such an intellectual media misuse to provoke propaganda witout strong facts. let me ask u tis, (hav u study history?)how ppl compile history? from bad time to good times? or vice versa? I may agree tat there was a Black Era of MLM but wen was it? Now gov Direct Selling Act 1993 has rule out to protect consumer, member, biz partners from mislead & misuse companies policy.(i’m not sure how other countries works but will b delighted to hear bout it)

    U may not confidence in tis topic coz there is no trust in it but answer me tis..(there is SO many question i been asking to ask ur self individually but non of u did ur homework)- hav u ever take things positively? No? Tis is typical, naive human action.Its normal. So in result? Normal life, NORMAL INCOME, NORMAL FUTURE? I dont think so coz hav u all really look into it? NO.Tis general topic may not trigger ur mind since u hav no commitment towards ur life!Correct me if i’m wrong, where can u find a company tat emphasis same goal, same vision, same mission & sincerity. And yet i’m speaking individually, still there a ppl lie to them self & to others. There is very d bad apple from, my fren.

  • NC

    Where did i get all tis info from? Research my fren, Get to noe it b4 u put a full stop on it. Hav u heard bout tis quote “learn while u still live”

    Wat? u never heard bout d most successful ppl such as Donald Trump? Robert T. Kiyosaki? Then u may not hav understand my comments earlier.Or u dont actually lik reading? So safely I can say tat u dont hav enough facts to back up ur comments? So who is d lazy bone here? Or u would like to answer like this OINK! U always mention work hard. How hard u gonna work? Now is new era where ppl WORK SMART SO TAT THEY CAN ENJOY EARLY RETIREMENT. Does ur work hard gives u tat? Ask ur self.

  • NC

    Well some how I agree wit u LB_LB on other MLM companies method on marketing & development. Can u share some of d MLMs co marketing plan?
    Case study: wat can u do with RM 2500? opening up a burger stall for example,(My fav burger Chicken Special Black Pepper)Checklist (minimal setup):1. 2nd hand wooden stall RM 500.2. Glass shelf RM 250. 3. Dry Stock (black pepper, chilli sauce &etc.) RM 100 4. Rolling stocks (bread, eggs, meats & etc) RM 300. 5.Monthly stocks or bills (Gas,electric, gasoline & etc) Rm 300. 6. Utensils(knive & etc)& furniture (chairs/ stools, optional)RM 900 with chairs/ RM150 w/o chairs Total:RM 2350 w chair / RM1600 w/o chair. Now operation hour, daily: 7days a week, 30days a month, 6pm – 3am (9hours). Estimated duration commitment: 270hours per month(average of working hour u n i had)Sales target? I’m talking bout ROI here.Is tis business possible to b done? Yes, definately 270hours of committed time. no leaves & MCs.

  • NC

    Well isnt it close to 2500?ok, for example u want to open a franchise. How much the investment? Same close to RM2500 k. Y open a franchise? Hav u study Geography?Population effect business’s sales not demand. So franchise out to new area of population but remember there is other out there doing the same business! SYN? V are doing the same business under the same roof & under the same system! Tat is d beauty of the business!

    Wat company allows u operate in 11 countries wit just RM 2500? (terms & condition apply)Wanna noe more? Again I said, tis business is for every1 but not for 0% IQs who depend on EQs only
    Yet like budzz mention (sorry if i’m straight forward & if its hurts ur ego)HE, HIMSELF is NOT a bla,…bla.. HE, HIMSELF is NOT bla, bla..Similiar wit LB_LB did mention SYN is a scam, but where is the facts? Budz ur situation is similiar those failure in the business Y? coz they giv up & dont understand the entity of the business. Lik i said this business is for every1 but not every1 would understand it. Y? IQ, get it? look for 4 d right source of info, my fren.U trust a person who speaks in words on the internet? Or u rather find a person who talks to u face to face? Think!

  • LB_LB

    Another foolish attempt by NC. First and foremost, yes, you don’t have to defend yourself simply because what you said is indeed a reproduction from your so called LB business seminar notes. Well, many would dub it as cheaters’ notes.

    Now you want to talk about economic and business development? Btw, it’s economic and NOT economy development. Hilarious. From all your so called LB business seminar you went to, you couldn’t even differentiate economic and economy? What more if you want to talk about ROI? You know what does ROI mean in the first place?

    You want facts on what scam SYN is. You need facts to prove a scam? You are in fact, the facts of such scam, only if you get my drift. Considering the level of your immaturity, you’d probably have no idea what I am talking about. Doesn’t matter, you still win because you’re a SYN member!

    Wow, you said SYN doesn’t need 0% IQ people to join the network? You must have taken some potion or probably charmed by your upline man, you foolish fella. Is that what’s being told to all you low-ranked-pity-buggers begging and cheating others to join? What a consolation. If you don’t join SYN, means you’re 0% IQ and hence, we don’t need you. What a consolation, indeed!

    WooHOOo… so NC, you have 3 companies and still doing this LB business? Very successful person you are. Haha! For the benefits for all of you here, a company can be set up with merely rm 10! So you make your own judgement and don’t be conned into such scam!

    Whether you use that rm2500 to open a burger stall, mamak stall, char quah teow, mee rebus or whatever, it’s still better than taking that rm 2500 to dump into a scam. Besides, that doesn’t stop there, you’ll have to beg and cheat your way through to get the returns, if any.

    We’re all educated people who have spent years in education. Put some considerable thoughts before you venture into such perpetual, unhealthy and intended scam. Don’t be fooled whenever they bring big names out such as Robert, Donald etc etc…. starbucks, mcD etc etc…. Today’s world doesn’t only revolve around MLM. MLM works but LB & SYN is a scam! You know it and don’t do it!

    Have some dignity, show some integrity and Don’t join LB.

    To NC, if there isn’t a need to promote your LB and SYN to lure/cheat people to join, then there isn’t a need here as well for you to disseminate your laughing stocks! Buzz off!

  • LB_LB

    Btw NC, you spent almost 2 hours to produce 3 crappy comments. It takes you 2 hours to dilute your knowledge into 3 lousy immature comments. Haih, since you’re just copying from your LB Cheaters’ Notes, you still need 2 hours? What a faggot! A faggot who owns 3 companies!

    Quit LB!

  • ejam love MLM n SYN

    aiyaaa len chai..
    if u dont like LB nvermind laa..we r not ‘kacauing ur periuk nasi’ lorr..
    mind ur own biz n take care of it..okayy?lampe berger is just a product..where is estebelle?ed’pinaud?..haiyarkkk…btw,thanks a lot for calling me a cheater..wut a man who can’t accpt a fact..shame on u…pz give us ur info,i mean a fact ones to tell evrybdy why is syn/LB is sucks relates with fact from d real world..also a prove..plz show us LB_LB

  • LB_LB

    ejam oh ejam, i am not kacau’ing your periuk nasi. I just couldn’t bear with all the lies some LB members said. The more apparent one has to be that particular NC. Okay ejam, ask yourself, when you’re in the seminar, haven’t you being reminded times and times again about kiyosaki…trump….etc…starbucks…mcD…etc…all companies are pyramid scheme….you get controlled by your boss….what biz u can do with rm2500….rm35000….etc etc….

    These are all so stereotype man. All that NC said are just ways to camouflaged the bad inheritance of LB and SYN. Come on, have you been to a company which tells you… ey ey if you wanna drive bmw, join LB…. i am earning 5-6 figures, so join LB….. look at the basement of HLA, all the nice cars so if you want, join LB!

    These are all nonsense man. I have seen many who had failed. And those who are still in LB will fail as a matter of fact in a matter of time. Stop lying to yourself and stop cheating others. The business Seminars that LB organised are merely to motivate you guys to continue to feed the few top ones!

    It’s a sheme! A lousy one! LB and SYN is a scam! Stay away from LB!

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    im still wondering to ur precious word up there, posted by our fwen NC
    ,posted on….
    Sep 20th, 2007 at 7:32 pm,
    Sep 20th, 2007 at 7:38 pm,
    Sep 20th, 2007 at 7:47 pm,
    Sep 20th, 2007 at 7:54 pm,
    Sep 20th, 2007 at 7:56 pm,
    u said u not copied, but how come aaa….u can wrote hundreds of word up there, in less that 5 min, u must be SUPERMAN dude….
    HAHAHA…all LB members r d same, when talking, FUIYOOOOOOOOOO….like a super billionair, i think Bill gates also gonna kiss ur feet, but sometimes, what ur r saying without u all realise, makes alot of mistakes…
    hey come on la, Dont try 2 manupulate our mind here, by saying all rubish things up there,
    if u want to do this bisnes for ur whole life, go ahead,
    here, 1 of my fwen saying that, ” I WANT TO JOIN, BUT FIRST, U MUST EAT A DOG SHIT” i think all LB members will do it, as long as u get the downline rite… all of u is so worse, than animal…

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    wow… NC now u become no 1 comentator in this blog.. well done,
    u may take a winning prize for ur most beautiful essays, “HOW TO BECOME A CHEATER N LIAR”

  • NC

    haha..thanks for the comments. is been a great break thru thou u guys being anti of LB but yet i receive tremendous positive comment on the blogs i’ve been replying u guys! I been sending this particular address ask them to read thru it n DIGEST IT NOT DILUTE IT! Numbskull! No wonder u dont get a single info i forward thru! But again tis is just simple understanding on business mind set. Yes u may quote me on economic words but we are pass with SCHOOL syllabus (unless u are still in primary?) I’m talking bout economy business development,dude! – economy = economical business development which save inventory & safe risk. Which business would giv u tat? Back to my frens who called up d other to meet up n start confessed tat this is a very good blog to open ppl’s mind.And positively he join in as a partner, as i said tis is not a get rich fast scheme.it need understanding in FACTS,MIND SET, HONESTY & CLEAR INTENTION.
    u sound lik MY GRANDMA, y u worry bout my time on writing this blog? or u r just finding some way to find my mistake? well there is no need 4 tat. Just look 4 ur disputed fren n share tis blog wit him/her. Then he/she will confess how sincere is he/she towards the business and towards ur frenship.Copying? haha funny prove it. Time? How fast u type, dude? Type the things u comes from heart not from ur numbskull! It will show how much u noe wat u getting into. Btw, the more u write the ppl u attract to tis blog but ppl can cc difference between u & s others (me & others, pro-LB)V look for facts & follow the lead of a successfull ppl.No follow a NOBODY. (U want to b somebody?)I dont sit n write 24-7 but i only spend my leisure time, so grandma..wats d prob?

  • NC

    Wow! Dog poo? Wat on earth ppl would say tat n ask U TO EAT? Would u eat it? If not, y shout bout? Well u heard it ur self or is just a fren of a fren story? Read my earliar comment? Well is more than WOORFING (tail wager, S kisser, shielding bhind d word of dignity), OINKING (lazy) & ‘S’cusing other (pointing finger at ppl but not evalute ur on self)In world of business is nature to have Ying n Yang – D more success U become, the more other ppl envy U & try to making U down.N the more u anti *something* the more pro *something* will b attract against anti *something* The Law of Attraction.

    So Grandma,..where is my prize?

  • NC

    Again this business has system, only individual makes it different – Look for the right leader to follow, this is my advice for all out there.A righteous leader would lead u how he runs his life, earn the income he earns, honest to u, reach out to others without questioning & more..This r d value V HAV IN SYN! Wat u hav heard has yet manipulated words but heard by fren of a fren of a fren….(a faillure – talk only no action)

    Ask u self, hav u really understand wat is ur own company vision & mission?If u dont..it shows tat u r not intune wit ur company spirit. Well, i can pre-assume there is a resignation letter next to u to tender tommorow.Same here in SYN, understand wat is SYN all about, wat r the goals – Which company allows u to do part time? N run with ur own company? Think..Well I’ll c how many ppl will do their ‘homework’ from here..

  • NC

    So u think i’m wrong for sharing my thoughts here? Well I thought this site is for every1?!? So this means I saying the RIGHT THING till u hav buzz me off? Wow wats d purpose of having this site than? So A SWINE!! Hav u get ur facts & intention right? Till then I wait & watch..Btw, r u saying u have 0% IQ? Wow! Congrats! U just become Dumb & Dumber! Search for d facts not d brags.. This business is very systematic yet on PPL MAKES IT DIFFERENT! So speak the same lingo, brothers & sisters!!

  • LB_LB

    hahaha!!! NC oh NC…

    Dear NC the LB Bull Shitter,

    What is talking you man? You said economic=economy=economical? hahaha! are you in a comic? Dude, please stop embarrass yourself any further, would you?

    wow digest not DILUTE? You just learned a new word rite, you copy cat! haha! Again proven, you’re nothing good other than copying and parroting what others say. You know what, this business really suits you man. You can copy all your LB Cheaters’ Notes and Cheat innocent people. Keep it up!

    So what happen to your facts? What happen to your investment perspective of rm 2500? What happen to your deliberate ROI? No more facts and now you turn to be a true beggar, begging for sympathy and begging and conning and cheating your way through to get downline. You faggot! your pathetic scam won’t work over here! If you wanna go on contributing, go ahead, you faggot! We actually find your posts quite funny and entertaining.

    Wow, you actually told you LB uplines, LB Friends about this blog? about what we write? You guys actually discussed it in one of your HLA sessions rite? HAHAHA! so they must have taught you what else to cheat! Come on, ask yourself donkey, what else you guys know other than planning and finding new ways to cheat people???!!! What a faggot, and you even dare say you own 3 companies! HAHAHA!!!

    Ey dei, of course LB allows you to do part time man. Because all you do is just to cheat. SOrry, other companies never teach their workforce to cheat. Thats why i say, LB really suits you man!

    Go stick to your SYN!

    For the rest, stay away from LB!

  • LB_LB

    oh btw, antilampberger said the wrong thing about you.

    NC, you don’t eat dogpoo. You’re a dogpoo!

    hahaha!!!

  • NC

    haha thanks 4 ur immature comments, guess u hav not yet do ur homework! Think wit ur brain, NUMBSKULL! No point of accusing wit out facts. I thought U WOULD ELABORATE wat is ROI, since u sound SO CONFIDENT IN LB there is no ROI! (return of investment). Do ur homework look for prove, if u strongly say LB is cheating! Look 4 authorities, NGOs & lawyers – consult wit them. Dont keep on passing BULL S!!U r just a SABOTEUR witout facts & wit competitors interest! Y i said tat, u pro other mlm but not LB! So u r from mlm background?!! SYN is BUILDING A MARKET n not emphasizing on direct selling! So u hav been doing direct selling? Dude, CHECK MATE!

  • LB_LB

    Dear Faggot NC,

    so your definition of ‘elaborate’ is telling others what ROI stands for? what a joke! Well probably thats how far your shallow knowledge bring you about. For goodness sake, SYN aint building market, SYN is bulding its own cheaters’ network. And with inclusion of such people like you, The people on top will be very happy because you’re working your dogshit out from it by cheating and cheating people to feed the few top people. Yes NC, you can do whatever you like, no one is stopping you. Go and cheat all your friends and family. Worse still, you’d probably had taken up all ur parents hard earned money! Only time will tell when you fail and start crawling back begging to the society to re-accept you. Damn, i didn’t know a person who has already owned 3 companies have such shallow mentality! Aiyah well, maybe this ’3companies’ scam is thought by your upline to gain confidence from others. Typical SYN!

    Stay away from LB & SYN!

    Keep it up, faggot NC!

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    hey…
    ur 1st target is not selling product la man…
    u think i dunno., ur main concern is captured new investor to join ur bisnes…until when?????
    u guys r damn stupid, ur get commision from the new investor, rite????
    if ur marquis u get 40% of the sales, if u bring the new investor…
    don act like u so intelligent, in fact u r more stupid like a cow…
    u get ur salary, from the new investor that ur cheating…
    if there is no new investor, at that months, what u get????
    10 Figures???HAHAHA….
    by d way, i have 5 companies, 6000 workers, 2 mercedes, 1 ferari, 2 mini cooper, 10 Z4, 10 bunglow, 20 condo,
    HEY LB LOSERS out there wake up la….
    everybody can say like that,
    that is one of ur shitty strategy, to cheat the new bisnes partner…’
    im sick n tired 2 listen 2 all such things, if u can earn 5-6figurs every month…like all u said, CONFIRM…!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    no need 4 u to come 2 HLA building everyday, work like a dog, only the STEVEN YIP up there get rich….
    dAMN LOSER

  • LB_LB

    well said, antilampbergermalaysia…

    this NC is an ultimate loser-faggot-dumb-SYN-shoe-licker-cheater!

    and he owns 3 companies! haha.. what a laughing stock!

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    coppied from the person name AWEKS, monday 24 september….

    Bukan nak menambah bara..tapi inilah kenyataan..
    asalnya saya nie bukan jenis orang yang suka berhutang, tapi sejak kenal LB nie jadi ler saya kaki hutang..dok asik kena kejar ngan bank dan surat saman..saya percaya betul dengan seorang kawan saya yang baru saya kenal kat tempat keje..Baiknya tuhan sajer yang tahu, lembut gigi dari lidah, take care pasal saya dan family dan apa saja masalah saya kononnya cuba dia settlekan..satu hari tue dia ajak saya g LB..kat situlah syurga lampu minyak tanah LB..dengan gaya dan style yang menggoda sapa-sapa pun akan tergoda nak berjaya macam diaorang..dari situ kawan saya mula buka citer…kat LB jerlah yang best kat dunia luar tak best…start dari tue paksa pulak g NDO, follow up tiap-tiap hari, paksa saya buat loan(apakah yang didefinasikan dengan paksaan LB? siap follow up dan tolong isikan borang loan oleh upline saya tue!) upline saya siap bawak saya g bank tiap-tiap hari..kenapa?? sebab nak dapat kan modal 30000 ringgit, mana saya ada duit dengan gaji saya yang hanya basic rm 1500! so apa plan upline saya??
    6 kredit kad=3000x 6
    =18000
    bank rakyat =10000
    CIMB =7000
    so total =35000
    itu belanja untuk LB sajeee…
    cuba tengok pulak yang saya kena bayar kat bank;
    6 kredit kad=150x 6
    =900
    bank rakyat =258
    CIMB =300
    so total =1458 sebulan daripada gaji saya 1500 sebulan!!
    2 tiga bulan saya bertahan dengan LB walaupun saya masih tak dapat-dapat lagi downline..pikiran saya orang yang tak nak join LB nie sebenarnya minda diaorang nie tak terbukak..walaupun saya tahu susah payah, tapi saya stay lah jugak dgn LB sebab modal dah pun kuar banyak…sampailah satu hari tue saya dapat msg dari orang LB yang ber bunyikk..”perhatian, ramai dari LB yang bangkrap! sila buat buat sokongan untuk membuat tabung bagi kawan-kawan yang bangkrap ini..!) sejenak saya berfikir..saya ambik keputusan untuk stop dari LB..bukan sebab saya malas atau putus asa! tapi saya takut dan tak sanggup rasanya bila saya mengajak diorang join LB…sapa nak jawab bila kawan jatuh susah?? jatuh bankrap?? ada ker upline LB nak amik tau?? macam saya sekarang nie mana ada orang LB nak tanya kabar dah..bila dah tak buat LB, langsung dah tak tanya kabar berita..hilan sudah kawan baik!!sekarang saya sedar yang amat! kadang-kadang kita kena ukur kemampuan kita jugak! tak semua yang berjaya walaupun berusaha keras pun andai takdir tak mengizinkan..fikir-fikirkanlaa …

  • LB_LB

    just to reiterate what antilampber said about NC, which is so true…

    ‘NC, dun act like you’re so intelligent, infact you’re more stupid than a cow’

    HAHAHA… really crack me up! good one! and it’s sooo true!!!

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    more negative feedback compared 2 positive…
    if u want to stick to dis unethical bisnes.,
    go ahead LB MEMBERS…
    but if i see u want 2 persuade me, to join this bisnes,
    i akn ludah muka u all…
    because the people like u, deserve it….
    u are worst than animal….

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    HAHA… LB_LB
    we will see,
    how far this company, will go…HAHA

  • me_hOt

    usualy an owner of 3 compenies wudn’t have time to do such stupid things like joining LB.dun u have enough money to support ur own life?n wat did u get by joining LB??other income??by wat?cheating other ppl to join LB??o u juz have to get ur money back by influence other ppl to join LB so dat u get ur money back??

    my fren juz said that most LB members get bankrupt coz joining LB.they hav 2 apply for loan of 30k to join LB.but their salary only rm1500 per mnth…
    their upline teach them how 2 get the money by applying 6credit cards from bank to get 18k n apply from other bank to get 12k.then later her upline didn’t even care bout her after she joins…but before she join…her upline really ‘take care’ of her well being…such a good liar…

    oOOoo..LB members…i know most of u are malay…i dun understand y u being so stupid in joining LB n cheat other ppl money…dun u realize that at the end the 1 who become rich is STEVEN YEAM…a chinese which i can gurentee that he doesn’t even know ur name…but u know all bout him coz u praise him a lot…u say all the gud stuff dat he did by doing all the charity work n stuff..if u really wanna do gud things…
    y dun u juz go to mosque n donate sum of money…by using a valid income of money but not other ppl’s money…coz at the end of the dat…da 1 who get rich wont even bother bout u…whether u cud find a downline or not…is not their problem…coz they only get profit from u…all they hav to do.is juz sit at home…but u r the 1 who has to do all the hard work…
    think bout it..

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    nice comment me hot…
    shame on u la NC…
    have 3 companies, stil wasting ur time, give ur dumb pint here, and the most stupid things, join LB….HAHAHA..

  • u2

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  • LB_LB

    Hey Faggot NC, you go suck your steven yeam’s foot lar!

    For the others, please read the following link. It’s a true expose of LB and SYN SCAM!

    http://www.consumer.com.my/message/index.php?itemid=850

    LB & SYN to die!

    either way, SYN has already made tons of money expecially the people on top. For dumb faggot like NC, he’ll forever be sucking others’ foot and cheat his way through!

    Stay away from LB!

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    haha…
    they r true faggot, not appear anymore here…
    y????
    afraid ah???????????
    or u have already copy and paste all the fake article from what ur upline gave..
    and then claiming that, its ur idea..
    shame on u la…….

  • Danny Lim

    wow impresive!!!
    i c half only laugh until i cant stand of it anymore.
    1st i wan to say i’m a D.C.H.L member and i’m a Count!
    D.C.H.L is not under L.B ok.
    under D.C.H.L we got Estebal and Spa and Ed. Pinaud.
    that is latast one.
    don know right??because u guys don understand the company at all.
    don tell me Ed. Pinaud is u guys so call “Shit” product!
    cause u can get a lot of Info about thie brand.
    if this company really so sucks this so call super brand wont join this company to destroy thier own name.this is common sence go think!
    i remember got one guy say malaysia gov list down the scam comp list and LB involve right??
    1st i wanna ask wat company name in the list?
    if u tell me is LB or D.C.H.L then i wan to congrat u cause”U R WRONG!!”
    and how come suddenly it removed??
    cause after the investigation gov prove the company r clear!!
    and we do coorperate with govr do few of the charity.
    if u guys wan to say this is the company tactic is up to u guys.
    one last thing i understand some people do use the stupid method to reqruit people.but that is only few of them.
    ok la tired d.i hope u guys can really look into one thing b4 u guys wan to give any omment about it.

  • Jonathan

    Hi to every1,
    i’m a member of syn n i hav been doing tis biz about 8months,
    althought i dun drive a sport car n i dun hav 5figure income,
    but i’m glad i join tis company,it’s true some1 is using our compony method to cheat ppl out there,its not de company prob but the ppl prob,
    i earn an average income of 4figures per month,its enough 4 me as i’m helping my frenz in tis biz,i’m helping to solve my family money prob,i agree not every1 can accept our biz,i respect u,for those syn member pls do tis biz in a bettet way,if u promise to help ur patner,make sure u do it,hopefully i’m going to challenge for marquiship in the month of dec2007,if i could make it there,my life n my family wil change as well,i respect every1 posting here,u hav ur point of view,tat is always gd n bad thing happening around us,so do take care,tat’s all 4 now,cya !

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    another stupid message from danny lim…hahaha
    come la man, wake up..after this what is ur another story, Robert Kiyosaki? Donald Trump? Bill Gates?
    true faggot n loser…
    haha..
    u dont say la they join LB thats y they get rich…HAHAHA

  • LB_LB

    hi danny,

    do you find the posts here funny? you’re laughing at the posts? Nah, you are not. You are actually laughing at yourself for being in such scam and being a cheater and a retarded faggot!

    Don’t tell us what we already know. Or rather, don’t deceive us. It won’t work here. Go camp at you HLA or go con those innocent young college kids out there.

    Of course DCHL have all other sorts of nonsense like spa, ed pinaud, lb etc etc… DCHL needs such diversification so that the people like you can cheat easier! LB is going down the drain and the only way to revive is to come out other shitty products or other scams.

    Stay away from LB DCHL ESTEBEL whatever! just stay away from such SHIT! These people are desperate and now they are coming with all other nonsense with further intention to cheat people!

    LB to die! Danny and NC can have Steven YEAM!

  • JS

    To all faggots that against LB (especially LB_LB)

    Don’t be childlish, look at us and look again at yourself, then you’ll know why you still driving kancil being a scum bag in this society. (Or maybe you don even own a kancil) The truth is, u don’t know how LB works, u don understand, because you don have a mindset of successful person. LB to die??? I think u die first, hell also don wanna accept scum bag like you! Behave!!!

  • LB_LB

    Hey steven-yeam-poo-licker JS,

    The mindset in each n all of you LB members are to cheat and become rich fast. JS, you deserve no respect. So what if we ever drive a kancil or don’t even have a car? At least we make an honest and ernest living. Unlike you who cheats your friends, relatives and even beg your way through to gain sympathy. Damn JS, with you having such character, you’d probably already squandered all your parents’ hard earned money. In your lousy LB talks, you guys are always reminded of giving a god life to your parents rite? hell Yeah! it’s considered a bonus for not having to worsen their lives!

    Damn retarded-faggot JS,

    Of course Hell doesn’t accept us, BECAUSE Hell is specially reserved for LB members who cheat especially you, JS!
    Take your time to die, there’s already a place in hell reserved for you!

    LB to Die! Stay away from LB!

    JS, you can have steven yeam’s poo all you like!

  • LB_LB

    Everybody,

    This is a typical way of how LB members behave.
    1st, they try to talk lousy immature facts.
    2nd, beg for sympathy
    3rd, when nothing works…..
    4th, curse people to death…hell…etc…

    Typical LB members. Ashame to the society. Pity Your parents, JS! hey jS, Go on sniffing and licking your precious Steven Yeam’s poo all you want!

    To the rest, Stay away from LB.

    LB to DIE!

  • Stupid_LB

    hey dick head JS…..the only thing u knw how Lb work is by cheating ppl lar…don try to bullshit here man…finding downline n sucking their money…this is how LB works..right.. come on lar JS…WAKEUP!!!!if u knw how Lb works, than reveal it here lar…we r educated person dude…not cheater lik u.

    kancil???hey even with 2500..nowdays can buy one 2nd hand kancil…with own money….rather than cheated my maggots lik u lar…bcos u ppl some suffering outside…feel shame on u LB idiots….

  • LB_LB

    hahaha!!! dickhead JS!!! nice one!!!

    Hi Dickhead JS

  • LB_LB

    Hahaha!!! Dickhead JS!!! Nice one!

    Hi Dickhead JS :mrgreen:

  • PEACE

    PEACE !! My English is not as good as the people above. Just to inform tat I’m sure what i type here will sure occurs criticism but what my intension is to get my answer. Please give me a solution or answer if YOU ALL have one. I read it all the comments and replies from 12am to almost 3.30 am, actually WHAT IS THE PURPOSE AND INTENSION for those people who talk bad about LB, are you an EX-LB member or someone related very close to you who is an EX-LB member who is a failure in LB biz or either YOU heard the Negative news from others and claim it and modified it as your own news anyway also doesn’t matter. Not to give advice or anything, but for those DCHL-SYN’s MEMBERS, i felt SO ASHAME and STUPID to wrote a comment here coz eventually i read this whole page of conversation and is REALLY WASTING TIME. Don’t you think this kind of conversation doesn’t end ? the more you say the more people will be offended or defended. WE WANT PEACE SO DON’T START A WAR(bcoz we don’t like war doesn’t mean that we can’t fight)(A stupid explanation is a offend/defend that will cause war). Action speak louder than words. The person who create this blog is a VERY SMART PERSON and its almost 2 years, WHY ?? BCOZ YOU WANT TO RELEASE ALL YOUR ANGER AND HATES but sometimes got STUPID fella like me that reply the STUPID comments. FOR DCHL-SYN’s PARTNERS, STOP REPLYING AND STOP VIEWING AT THIS KIND OF WEBSITE AND STARTS ACTION ON YOUR OWN GOALS SETTING. TIMES WE PAST AND THINGS THAT HAPPENED WILL BE FADED OUT !! THANK YOU IF YOU APPROVE MY REPLY !! PEACE !!

  • krazl

    let say I start a network biz, mlm biz or pyramid biz…my main product..let say Nike…so i say i started francise biz…and demand Rm2.5K to get Rm600 Nike shoe…wakakaka…i could make some money here..

    You could find LAMPE BERGER DIFUSSER LIMITED here in e-bay also:-
    http://www.ebay.com.my/viItem?ItemId=330169133583

    I could make Rm8K nett permonth with traditional biz with RM35K…just focus on necessity…

  • Nuffsed

    At least 80% of posts in this site are pointless accusations and mockery which is not even worth reading(i point out at both anti-lb AND pro-lb). The anti-lb will of course condemn SYN/DCHL whereas the pro-lbs will counter, both being childish and speaks out based on what they have experienced or through another party without thinking thoroughly.

    Now, I’ll be speaking on behalf of both sides which is the pro-lb and the anti-lb.

    Because i have found this to be a very crucial reply and one of the most constructive reply towards anti-lb, i will paste for others to read and analyze.

    As for the anti-lb:
    SYN/DCHL have never claimed itself to be a “get rich quick” scheme. From the replies here, the way i see that people have absolutely no idea what they are even talking about before making their point worth arguing. LB is only a product. Much like any other product out there you see, McDonald, handphones, notebooks, etc. MLM is still direct sales. Thats a fact, but the way this business work is not just being emphasized on selling products. It is selling a business plan, a franchisee lecense. Name me a company that offers you a franchisee license for RM2500. McD, Starbucks, Coffeebean all these costs millions for initial start up of obtaining a franchisee. What do you get when you have this franchisee license? You are entitled to open a shop, and duplicate the system. See any differences among all KFC/Coffeebean/Starbucks/McD’s? They’re all the same in terms of shop design, the way they operate and product wise (with tweaks to make sure products suited the country). What you are doing is only duplicating a working system. This is very much what SYN/DCHL is doing, selling a business plan, franchising license, and duplicating the success downwards.

    If you have time, do a search and you will find out that MLM is indeed different from pyramid/ponzi scheme. If you insist on arguing that LB is under a pyramid scheme, then what about the corporate world? Dont u think that it is also a pyramid scheme where the chairman/ceo/director are all at the highest level and there can only be a few of them. Then broken down to managerial level where there are more managers downwards, then slowly sales team, marketing team, etc and it goes on downward and then finally perhaps you might be one of them employees at the base of the tree. You are earning a fixed income of say RM2000. If you are in the sales line, your earnings + commission is your salary. You work hard to sell products and get a small fraction for your effort. All the money goes to your boss in the end. He gets 75% while the 25% is split downwards. Now obviously this isnt fair that you do all the work while he is playing golf right? But this has been the case and this has indeed been put into our mindset that we employees are suppose to work while bosses go do business by playing golf or flying elsewhere for business talks. So people see that as normal but doing LB is not normal? The business pratice in LB is very fair, it rewards the ones who put in the effort and as every corporation I believe it applies the same thing. Reward the hardworking ones, kick out the slacking ones. In LB, you slack, you waste your investment in obtaining a franchisee. Simple as that, and what is rm2500 right now for an investment for your own business compared to say opening a shop or a cafe, which requires a hefty rm50k capital to start up. Is Rm2500 such a big amount to fork out? Some people has probably spent more than Rm5000 in cigarettes over their years of smoking. Why is it that people are willing to pay money to breath in bad air and not good air? Think about it, how foolish and stupid can you be if you are supporting the fact that paying to have your life shortened or worst still, affecting the people around you is ‘not a bad thing to do, everyone does it’.

    Im sure a few of you guys have heard of a famous quote:
    ‘I would rather have 1% from 100 man, than 100% from 1 man’
    Based on the quote, its much easier to ask the 1% of help that anyone can provide, but it is a lot harder to ask 100% of help from 1 man.

    -posted by an anonymous

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    hmmm anti mlm doesnt seem to have much strong point other than saying bullshit or cheater because it is cheating or losing friends… if you look at it at a rational point, it is true that the whole thing works much like a kfc, starbucks franchising. At syn, however, the company work smarter, they sell both the franchise license and the product at the same time (the people who pays the rm2.5 also gets the product), in other words, they company gets an unlimited supply of advertising agents, while at the same time selling out their product. How do they afford to pay people at the uplines more than 10k a month? because they receive %net profit from the product being sell more (another advertising agent) -in a sense that is how the company 1. gets profit 2. kill off competitors (this is in view of traditional market theory) 3.remove the need for an advertising fund.
    correct me again if i’m wrong, if a company is able to make profit, then how would it be a scam? cause the business itself is able to sustain itself. paying high ranks in the company like duke or whatever is actually like paying for a CEO in a traditional company-because they actually helped the company made the money.

    If one did do their research, Lampe Berger is a well established company with a 100 years history. But there’s of course a downside to mlm. but its beyond shallow selfish minds, mlm is actually able to kill a society and at the same time stop the growth of existing products (as well as i had mentioned before -clean effective annihilation of competitors; leaving little or no consumer choice on product brands) How does mlm kills a society? when you get educated persona like doctors, engineers to became fulltime business franchiser, how would a society sustain itself? how would industry develop new technologies or build the product?

    for those who don’t only think of themselves, social issues is actually at hand- there’s too much unfairness in capitalism- that is how mlm is born. mlm is radical and probably could not support the growth of a society but people are opting to enjoy better lives that traditional business are not willing to provide (traditional companies absorb too much of the profit).

    Please correct me if i’m wrong with this perception: i’m just an observant. Anti mlm please stop using retarded reasons by just saying bullshit or cheater because it is cheating or losing friends, you guys are losing on the rationale side because pro mlm are making more rationalize sense (indicating most of them are rather educated professionals).
    Justification are well needed.

    - posted by observer

    ========

    However, as for the pro-lb’s, i do have a few say for you guys.

    First of, why bother replying with inappropriate name-callings? Aren’t you better off practicing your product knowledge or rather doing your business plan or again looking for prospects whatsoever? If you are doing well, why bother coming to a site like this and speak as though you are a child? You are only putting a bad name to SYN/DCHL by acting so. The people here are different, they’re a society who felt they’ve got cheated and they have their reason. And the reason they feel that way is mainly because of YOU. Why else is there an anti-lb? Why would people hate SYN? It’s because of people like you.

    I notice there’s a huge number of people who do not practice the right way of doing business. Their product knowledge is somewhat limited therefore they tend to do things their own way without understanding how their possible-partners feel. Without the right practice/culture and without the correct product knowledge, how do you expect to earn the trust of the others into getting them to invest their money? Well words are easily said than done, and at least 70% of the uplines i believe have not kept their promise. If you said u’ll help, make sure u do it. Others that couldnt make it to the top like the rest will fall, and complaint and start mockeries such as this site. It is NOT because of SYN/DCHL or rather the business plan it is because of you yourself. From there ignorance will grow resulting to blaming even the company and products itself.

    I can only say, if you’re willing to run a business, be sure u do it sincerely and smartly. Money will flow in any business and it doesnt matter if it’s conventionally or MLM whatsoever. It’s how smart you handle yourself.

    ==========

    To answer a few doubts for the anti-lbs:
    1. Students quit school after joining lb’s, well only 18+’s are allowed to join the business and we believe they have their rights to decide to work or to study.
    2. LB/Estabelle/Ed. P are products, SYN is the business plan, DCHL is the company that puts everything together. Get your facts right.
    3. Luxury cars are the best and easiest way to impress anyone, though there are many who owns a condo or two. You dont expect to talk someone into joining a business when you have only a proton wira to show, do u? By showing u have a luxury car, thats the first sign of what u’ve achieved. The message is, if i can own this car by doing SYN, why cant u?
    4. Steven Yeam, celebrities, events at numerous locations. Again these are ways of impressing others.
    5. MLM is a multi-human business. Dont blame ur frens for doing a follow-up, it’s his job. Every company does a follow-up; its a system. Business deals dont just stop there after one discussion is made. Ur frens just seem do things the wrong way making u feel uncomfortable about it.
    6. Of course your upline will earn more than you. BUT if you’re more active than ur upline, u WILL earn more than him. Are you afraid of whatever u do, ur upline gets the benefits? As long as u run faster than him, u will surely earn more.

    Just keep in mind, u’re doing a MLM similar like McD’s, but in a smaller scale and easier to do. U run out of stocks, u need to buy to sponsor ur downlines. Burgers are made to sell. LB’s/etc are made to sell. The marketing plan is there. Listen more to the rumours whatsoever from over the internet whatsoever, will only cause more problem. Why listen to 2nd hand stories when u can analyze things yourself? Before you join, do ur homework on how MLM works, company background/profile, foresee the business plan and put a conclusion to it if it is after all a scam. U may make comparisons with other MLM’s which have fallen. If u think it wont work, then simply dont join. No one is forcing you. If u are forced by ur frens, then yes ask ur frens to build a bridge and jump off of it.

    So i urge both parties to think about it. Its pointless to argue and mock each other like this. It’ll never end. But to be honest and on my POV, SYN/DCHL will continue doing well for at least 5years (until the whole country is in SYN perhaps, jokes). Whereas the anti-lb’s will just continue mocking and complaining not getting anything in return. U’re only gonna cause tension for both sides.

    Thanks for reading.

  • LB_LB

    PEACE, i have no idea what you’re talking about.

    Stay away from LB!

    Dickhead JS can eat, sniff, enjoy all of Steven Yeam’s poo, waste, etc… HAHA!

    LB to DIE!

  • LB_LB

    Nuffsed and other LB members,

    Can you guys have something newer in mind to say?

    DO homework 1st? Starbucks? KFC? MCD? Trump? Kiyosaki? 100 years? Established?

    You have used up everything from your cheaters’ notes.

    A saint and civilised person would know how insignificant LB is, hence, staying away from LB.

    Go try your recruitment elsewhere!

    LB to die!

  • NC

    Thanks Nuffsed for the detailed comments

    =====

    LB_LB, FYI i never gone from tis web (i always here n watch how many ppl provide feed backs from the homeworks i mentioned. Like I said b4 u guys has been tail waggin n shootin blank bullets. Look for facts, dude.. FACTS!!
    U have been accusing false statement dont u think so? Read back ur comment on: Oct 10th, 2007 at 10:16 am. Wat is the foot note u been posting? Wat bout the earlier posting, much earlier posting? Think..

    Btw, this link http://www.consumer.com.my/message/index.php?itemid=850 is fake! Is it non gov n non NGO interest in the site. Why? There is no pengguna logo n is not tide up wit any gov or NGO activities. any1 can purchase ‘com.my’ This is a lik any other web forum.Its easy to noe which is real.If is Malaysia, why isn’t a gov logo shown?

    Here is some REAL stuff for u guys!

    Gabungan Persatuan-Persatuan Pengguna Malaysia
    http://www.fomca.org.my/bmalay/index.php
    reports on DCHL: none

    Laman Web Rasmi PPIM: Aduan Pengguna (this site is for Islamic verify on halal goods or halal practice in business)
    http://www.muslimconsumer.org.my/ppim/page.php?14
    reports on DCHL: none

    =====

    Comment on anti lampe berger malaysia post on
    Oct 1st, 2007 at 1:06 pm
    coppied from the person name AWEKS, monday 24 september….
    - Why the heck Aweks get into hot soup? Is it bcoz of her own greed on high ROI? (Individual fault? Or her upline did not explain pros n cons on wat she will face? (Upline fault? Individual fault NOT COMPANY!)

    Summary:Aweks should hav told this ‘I’m not comfortable on getting loans n hav high debts, plz let me start small n tis may provide me time to understand more on the business’- remember the momentum of the business is determine by ur self.

    ======

    What u care if I own how many biz? A businessman would seek opportunities to built a future. Thanks btw, how u noe i lik meatballs? Btw I’m very ‘gay’man n I lik to use burning stick to shove it into ur S! (check the dictionary on the word ‘faggot’ and ‘gay’).

  • LB_LB

    Dear Faggot-NC, of course you’re always here. This is your job. What else better can you do other than conning and cheating people?

    No one cares how many companies you own. You’re the one shamelessly declared to the whole world that you owned 3 companies. What a faggot!

    We, non LB members, don’t play with burning sticks neither do we shove things up your S! Go to HLA and get your S shoved man. I mean, hey, you must have been so used to it. What a spastic!

    You want facts? Facts are all stated in the trail of this discussion. We don’t repeat facts. Besides, what’s the use of talking facts with faggots/cheaters/conman (am outta words to describe your stupidity) like you?

    Furthermore, you’re just parroting and repeating all your cheaters’ notes. Stop it man! you can’t fool us here!

    Get a life and get a real job! Faggot!

  • NC

    Funny, facts? repeating? Tat is y u dont learn a single thing here!
    Think bout tis : JOB = working for ppl + no time + dont own / no entitlement on the post of inheritance.Correct me if i’m wrong – do u see it happen in ur life?
    ====
    Wat is the reason u work? U invested XX amount of time to get XX amount of $$, life duration 55years old max.

    Wat is the reason u built a business or do business? U invest XX amount of $$ to earn XXX amount of $$, life duration determine by u. ( wasnt it good to take charge of ur life?
    ===
    Since u r so confidence in wat u r doing ur JOB, tell me wat job is the best in the market! U keep on say find a job, tell wat job may provide u TIME + $$ + FUTURE & wat is the life span?

  • LB-for-Losers

    NC, you’re a conman. LB is a scam. All will eventually fail. If you think LB can give you $$$, future, time, unlimited life span, THEN you’re very WRONG. It will not succeed. Many had failed and soon the whole system will be brought down. So, please stop conning others and affect others’ wellbeing. If you like to suck STeven Yeam’s foot so much, you can go ahead and have it all by yourself. Don’t con innocent people into such cult. NC, you’re a conman and shame on you, shame on your parents, i pity your children, and you’re such a garbage to the society. Get a life and stop dreaming of getting rich fast. Yes, dream is part of success BUT LB won’t get you anywhere near to success! Get lost lar, retarded fool! Just like what the author of this blog says…. Lampberger? Bullshit!!!

  • http://deleted LB-for-Losers

    So NC, tell me, how many will succeed in LB? 1 out of 10,000? or probably 1 out of 100,000? why hasn’t there been any promotion to marquis this year? How many Steven Yeams are there? Only 1, and all you cheaters are cheating money for your uplines, hoping one day you’ll be enjoying what they are. I tell you, this won’t happen.

    Do you want to succeed in the expense of others? DO you want to sacrifice 100 of your friends so that you can be a marquis? For goodness sake, how many more people do you wanna cheat? Are you happy to see your close ones, relatives and friends to be cheated and in debt so that you can be successful? Damn! what are you thinking man???!!!

    Stop this bullshit! and What LB_LB says is right. Go get a real job!

  • http://- anonymous

    u all bad mouth about a well known company… don’t u feel guilty about it?? maybe u will feel guilty if someday this DCHL/SYN company sue you… watch out… don’t just post something u don’t even know… think again.. if this company cheated… y do the malaysian government give them the permission to rent office in front of the zimbabwe embassy??? :grin:

  • http://- anonymous

    and one more thing…. LB is just a product…. I repeat… LB is just a product!!!!!!!!!… don’t u all understand the word product??????? DCHL/SYN/RZ corporation is the company who distribute this product…. and for god sake…. this company have Lampe berger, Ed pinaud, Estebel and also a spa… if you still say it is a scam… try check mingguan wanita magazine dated 1/10/2007 if i’m not mistaken…. they have a promotion about this Estebel product….they already 100 year in this business… more experience if you want to compare witth other MLM such as amway, Hai-O marketing or whatsoever…… Im not one of them but still I trust in them because I already been in their spa…. it so luxurious….. u all must try it once….. don’t just waste your time here barking…. go, see and experience it for yourself….

  • LB_LB

    Ahh Anonymous, is the damn system that gets the product moving. Hence, the scam. Hence, the Cheaters like you!

    Stop barking man. Pathetic LB Fools!!!

  • http://deleted LB-for-Losers

    hey anonymous, what you smoking man?
    we are NOT the ones that should feel guilty, YOU SHOULD!
    Stop using those sympathetic begging tactics to buy us into your lousy LB Scam. Go join your other non-sensical LB Fools in HLA. Faggot!

  • BAZOOKA

    WOW !!! ALL BAD COMMENT ON LB… WHY NOT SO ALL BUAT MOGOK DEPAN HLA BUILDING..JUST NOTHING IFF YOU ALL FUCK EACH OTHER HERE MEN..

  • LB_LB

    mogok? fuck? typical LB members la must be! waste of time to even go there man! go lick your steven’s toes lar you. what you doin here? You’re running out of time to recruit people man. Do as much as you can before it’s closed down. Don’t forget to buy position and invest one shot rm 40-60K ok? the more the better. The more you invest, the higher the return. Faster faster. Go Faggot!

  • anonymous

    this is for all SYN members
    i want to sell my product
    i lack of money
    show ur support towards SYN members
    those who are interested can contact me at
    Nad_iera@yahoo.com

  • LB_LB

    Hahaha. there isn’t even a chance any of them will buy from you. Even if they do, they’d probably have ulterior motive, expecting and trying to con you to invest more.

    so what happen to your upline? aren’t there supposed to help?

    Well, anonymous, i wish you best of luck!

    btw, i thought all SYN members have 5-6 figures every month, driving BMWs etc etc… hmm… i just wonder… hahaha!!!

    It just shows how lousy the whole system is!

    LB SYN to die!

  • bro

    hi there….can any1 advice me wther to join this kind of biz or not…coz i don have any xperience in this kind of MLM biz…can u guys out there gif me proof wther this biz is good or not….

  • anonymous

    well LB_LB I can see that u are soooo anti with LB but 1 thing that make me sooo curious.. y u still use that nickname LB_LB if, like u say u are so anti with LB.. y don’t u use ANTI_LB… u use that nick it make me soooo confuse… and I dare u to come visit me anytime at HLA if u dare!!!!!! b’cos i know i’m not doing sumthing wrong… if, like u say u are sooo right about LB then…. come see me prove it to me that we all wrong…. I dare u…. u want to take the challenge or not??????? ehm???? what u say???????

    and 1 more thing… the upline not suppose to search a downline for their partner… becos it will make ur partner lazy… don’t u think like that too???? or u are sooo kind that u want to find ur every partners a downline???? (every MLM doesn’t encourage the upline to help the partner search for a downline)they just giving out advices..that’s all…

    and about that magazine actually it not mingguan wanita… it’s jelita magazine… issue october… go and check first before u continue posting here….

  • farid

    Dear people. I would like to share something from my point of view. We are all been made in this with world with different capabilities and skills. That’s why we can see some people are well in their lifestyle and career. But not all achieve the same in life. Do you agree with the fact. Now let me tell you all something ,do you agree that we are pursuing our studies in order to get a better life in future? It’s that a promising fact on it. Do you see what’s going on in nowadays
    economies. Lots of graduate with no job. Knowing nothing to do only have mind with full of theory. Can we earn a good life or achieve our dream with doing nothing at all. That’s bullshit right?. I am also a graduate with years of experience in works. Still hard to survive in this world . what exactly that we understand about MLM. Is it only the definition. If you study more about the approach it’s actually been use in most of the company such as banking and financial industry, marketing industry and others. Lets see MLM, the higher level you are the bigger you earn. So in a company the higher ranking you are the higher you earn, right?.

    1) for student :- To achieve a high ranking position you must have higher qualification right? So how many people ( parents) invest on you to studied. If you failed your study you didn’t study hard right? Implied the same to MLM no matter how much you invest you must work hard to success . do you think you have put all of your effort? If yes then you pass your study, and if yes you achieve
    higher earning (MLM).
    - thank god some student eagerly do this MLM because they know how to repay others.most of the student actually enjoying their life in campus and put only small effort on studying. Yes you can graduate but with the help of ( toyol) ( for some student). Any promising job? Depends?.
    - So don’t band those student doing MLM while studying because the gain the knowledge of life and skill of marketing from it. If they can graduate they are doing great in managing their life and time in studies.

    In life some of us was born with a silver spoon in a mouth. Does everybody are that damn lucky? Accept the fact not all. So there’s nothing wrong for people who want
    Struggle to achieve their dreams.

    Some fact in career cycle :-

    1) being an employer :-
    - we get our career based on our qualification. Our in come are fixed basis . for those who unlucky based on contract basis. Can we earn more? Only if we been promoted.
    - How many higher position are there in an organization. Limited right. Some people do a great job but not been promoted due to not been appreciate by the upper boss. Why? Simply because the boss don’t likes you personally. Some always been promoted even not doing a job well. Why? Always being a ‘yes boss’ person even if the thing actually non related ( personal) matter. This is actually the real deception. And it’s a fact in real work environment.
    - When a company decided to shrink. The lower level feel the impact more. With lower earning what else can you do.
    - In order for a company to strive the multi level marketing takes place. Higher level in marketing will push all down level to the limit. Even you are not in sales line , your whole career appraisal based on your sales. Isn’t it better if we stay in a sales line.no double work.
    - For one self If 90% person of earning comes from doing business only 10% from being an employer. Which should you choose to put your all effort.
    - When sales achieve target who get the credit. Some company for the lower level your bonus are fixed. Your increment , that’s depend on your union to fight for it. Even if the company earn high yield for the year.
    - Don’t blame anyone. For that’s the life you have chosen and you don’t want to open up your mind for the bigger world.

    2) Opening up a business :-
    - great now you are opening up your mind for doing business. Do you have all that it takes to run a business.
    - Small business need small capital and so small earning. Big business need bigger capital and so bigger earning. Just like MLM.
    - do you have the knowledge from your narrow previous job routine to run a business. Do you easily get bigger finance for a bigger promising business. Network? Support? . can you started with high quality product imported with a small capital? Can you ought to do an exclusive promotion? Should you pay for courses to learn about business? Do you have thousand of friend to share about running a business?.
    - Not all of us are so lucky to have it all right?. Fact about running a business are not all business really success in the first 2-3 month open up. If unlucky we get that Bankruptcy Declaration.
    - Higher lobby needed for higher contract ? is it a fact. You judge it yourself.

    3) running MLM business :-
    - you can start with a fixed optional capital. Depends on how you look at the marketing system. No working paper needed . Same like studying , high invest for higher and better education. In business high capital for bigger deal.
    - No resume needed as your potential based on your effort and willingness.
    - Knowledge of marketing , management and others. Group of sharing knowledge. Courses provided on small amount based on sharing basis.
    - Multi national product, exclusive promotion , high profile office and systematic provided. Easy promotion based on potential. high insured of product provided.
    - So an MLM company also works just like a professional bodies with government approval.
    In conclusion there’s nothing wrong actually on building an MLM business.
    What important is your own effort faith on the company. Same like working in a company , you put your faith on it. The important thing is knowing the business and profile of the company. We can’t blame others if we not success on it for everything is provided . It is up to yourself on how much effort have you put on it. Judge on your own either you are capable to do it or not. The company provide everything so your task would be just the same as an insurance agent , unit trust agent and others by doing marketing for commission.
    Yes I do agree some of the ‘bad apple’ make the things worse. Its a fact in this world that they are everywhere in every line of business and also in workplace. This also implied in Direct selling world but the differences are the system on generating your income. Every market would create their own system to improve their sales.
    For those who really didn’t agree with me stop pursuing other people to destruction
    Rather than improvement for you are actually the worse.Those who are really can’t participate with the business I do hope you keep it up that way. For a good business needs a good partner. Manufacturing car business wont ask a farmer to be their partners board of director , that’s the analogy . for those with a principle ‘ belum cuba belum tau’ keep up with it.

    Good day. Let’s live in peace and healthy competition.

  • http://deleted LB-for-Losers

    *yawn* boring. Farid, we have read and heard those over n over again. And, we have rebutted this over n over again as well. Can someone pls copy one of the earlier posts and paste it now? you have some valuable points there no doubt, BUT if you were to implement that in LB is a big NO NO. LB is pure of bullshit. It isn’t one bad apple, the whole basket of apples is bad!

    Hi Anonymous,
    you’re confused with LB_LB nick? Is that even an argument or rebuttal to LB being full of bullshit? That’s lame dude! Well, that’s not at all surprising. The fact that you’re in LB already shows that you’re a confused person. Wow, challenging somemore ar? what an idiotic statement! Is there a need for LB_LB to even accept such immature challenge? Thats how LB works i guess. Instead of INVITING, you resorted to CHALLENGING. Either way, if you can’t prove it here, what makes you think LB_LB should go to HLA? ouhhh i know…. with your group of friends there, maybe it’s easier to brainwash ppl i guess. Good try!

    EVERYBODY, PLEASE STAY AWAY ANYTHING THAT HAS GOT TO DO ABOUT LB AND SYN! PLEASE SPREAD THIS TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND RELATIVES! DON’T BE PART OF THE STATISTICS OF BEING CONNED!

    THANK YOU…

  • dchl distributor

    Guys call 03 21619772 to complain about your so call scamming people business. I got this number from newspaper. Some MCA datuk is receiving the complain.

  • LB_LB

    Hahaha… DCHL distributor, that’s quite dumb of you.
    That’s probably your phone number so that you can brainwash them or threaten people, right? Lame!

  • uglyFLOWER

    Haha….”LB-for-Losers”…have u succeeded in any area of your life? if not…you do not have the rite to comment any company or product or even anyone as LOSER..because u are just talking about yourself..if you are Bill Gates..i have no say…if u r not..just shut up! give some constructive comments n logics and the REALT PROVE! not screening on the net!…no matter how this topic go on…it will never end….and for your information…whether u like it or not…..LB is stil growing…..why not u gather everyone and lodge a police report. If u have the guts….if u can catch all the LB people…i selut u…if not….don act heroes trying to be one inside here…..dont just have a hand that types..do something….obviously…you guys are really square minded! wasting time…haha….let me know if you manage to catch all of them…..wahahhaha….i will wait for the newspaper….

  • enlightment

    UGLYflower, why is it that people involved with DCHL or SYN always have to point out that people that don’t make it are failures? How do you even define ‘failure’? Someone that can’t set up any business? Please, the world is larger than just that. Bill Gates wouldn’t even call people failures, and stop comparing people that make it in DCHL with Bill Gates. Bill Gates is way out of your league. At least he came up with something NEW and INNOVATIVE, was RISK taking, and MANAGING his business well. That’s a true entrepreneur, as opposed to…. robbing other people’s money.

    There is thus something ethically very wrong about the whole DCHL MLM, since it doesn’t put any restrictions on recruiting partners and the product comes in second (from what I have heard and seen). Basically, you need to make money from your own friends and family or whoever you recruit as partner. That’s not acceptable to me.

    Once again, stop calling people failures… if that is the only argument you have for people that are actually trying to raise awareness about an issue, you’re a failure yourself in the sense that you fail to see that there are always two sides to one story. Have you ever thought that the arguments that you are making (witnessing the fact that DCHL- people are using the same (lame) arguments over and over again, as if you have no autonomous intellectual capability yourself), are only reinforcing people’s thought that DCHL/SYN is a bad thing and you might come across as merely a fool?

  • http://deleted LB-for-Losers

    Hey UGLYflower,

    I suspect you must be a retard. Or perhaps some down syndrome over-aged kid? Whatever you are, your sense of knowledge is somewhat amazing! Well the fact you’re bringing about successes in life…hmm… regardless of what success that i have had, i am very sure your only success in life is being a LB/SYN Member. What a way of redemption or rather, what a consolation to yourself. I sincerely congratulate you of your only success in life a.k.a LB! So when you’re earning 5 or 6 figures a month or when you become a millionaire via your LB cheating tactics, don’t forget to Reward your grandma who spoonfeeds you everyday and also your sister, for changing your diapers 3 times a day. Good luck pal!

    FOR THE OTHERS, PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM LB OR SYN OR WHATEVER NEWER NAMES THAT THEY MAY USE TO DECEIVE YOU. LB TO DIE. SYN TO DIE.

  • http://me.com anonymous

    well… well.. well.. erm.. ‘LB-for-Losers’.. nice nickname… and u use that name because u hate LB isn’t it???? and I use my nick ‘anonymous’.. because I don’t want people to get to know me… so..erm?? what make u thinking that some one with nick ‘LB_LB’ ha???? isn’t it for someone who like LB???? or maybe it for someone that already being cheated by LB???hahaha that is just slip from my mind if u tell me your nick name LB..

    challenging statement????..is that an idiotic statement????… not!!!! even I never learn that from any school in this world!!!!! the idiotic statement is that when u refuse it!!! u chicken out… rite??? and what u think u are???? inviting u???? what???? u think u are some kind of second bill gates???? hello!!!! this is a business…. and if u’re not taking the challendge.. how am i suppose to invite u hah???? u know what… actually I hate pushing someone.. because me myself hate being push by someone(to get into sumthing) and u know what every business have their own secret of being success… and to write it all down in this blogs??to share sumthing with u LB-for-loser… I don’t think so… do you think all the successfull businessman will share the secret with you without knowing who u are???? of course not!!!!!!!! that y u must see them personally… y u are shifting the statement??? because u want to get rid of it… face it man!!!! weather it is a challedge or invitation… the point is???? do you afraid to go???? or are u chicken out????

    I’m not a pro.. neither a member/partner of LB but I’m one of their user… it not that I don’t want to join them… but the fact is that I just don’t like MLM… that all… but the product itself… it far away okey.. and I ask u to come…yes… because theres a lot of people there that will assist me to answer all ur stupid questioning… because as I already stated that I’m a pro and I’m not one of their partner…

  • anti lambe berger malaysia

    ….long time no see…
    good work Lb_Lb…shame on u la Jack ass, ops sory, JS..haha..
    hoi..anonymous, the name of Lb-Lb can be considered as an issue here ah??? the people’s name also can u raise as an issue, why, all the pointless dumb message, u have already finished, copied n pasted up there????
    to all anti lb out there, im stil with u guys, even outside there, there r only, 1 anti Lb member, all the stupid steven yeam’s coolies will be afraid of us…
    Dun wory,
    here, 1 of my suggestion to all my fwens, makes a proposal, distributed the copies, to all people about this unethical bisnes, ask them to stay away from this bisnes..
    if u one of the person who is beong offended, makes a police report, tell them about ur stories, dun be afraid,
    all LB losers out there cannot do anything to u..
    plz do this, to help our family n friends, to stay away from this bisnes

  • LB_LB

    Hi Anonymous,

    Your arguments have way past the level of idiocy. Congrats, you have just escalated yourself to the level of Stupidity. Super dumb faggot man. What are you trying to say? The nick with LB_LB means support LB? Dumb man. I rest my case. If LB has such members like you, this just shows the sort and state of mentality a LB member has. Good job. Keep it up! Ey don’t waste time here la, go cheat people lar. What you doing here talking about professionalism? Again, what a faggot!

  • anti lambe berger malaysia

    hoi LB members out there…
    all of u are damn stupid more than a cow…
    go and searching ur product first , do a reasearch about ur marketing plan before u saying something stupid here..
    it just shows ur stupidity, and ur dumb knowledge about the bisnes…
    all of u are like ‘split up to the sky and falls on ur damn ugly dog face…..
    dis morning i wen to da cash and coverters, at ampang point, selangor, …
    there…i saw ur precious oil, haha…u know what, they sell at RM 73…i repeat 73, 73…..instead of RM 237….
    u can go there and check la,if u dun believe, dun try to defend anything before u see it first, damn stupid….
    come on la wei…
    nobody trust u guys now…..

  • RUdi

    menghua please post this okay, just for the good of many people

    well, here i would like to share u my story, about 1 years ago, i was still a student at one of a quite reknown universities at
    Malaysia and i’m an indonesian. One day, one of my friend tell me about an intereting offer , i thought it was something like a part time job, however i was wrong. After my friend ask me to see “the office” then i know what is it. It was quite interesting for me since i’m a bit naive about MLM, n i trust him as a friend so decide to join, the week after. However, when i had join as a member, i start to doubt regarding this MLM, coz when the first time i join it, they said is okay to start from the franchise with the cost about RM 1200, but i realize then, that it was just a bait, they actually looking for the 36K investment. They will use all the tactics to make u fell ashame, depressed, not a team player and etc if u dont do the further investment, such as do a promise infront of the audince during one of their “talk show”, they said it was part of the commitment. Almost every single day, they (not only my upline)keep asking me when i’m gonna invest the 36K, during the meeting they like to pressed me by saying that i’m a coward since i havent invest it or i dont have a guts, commintment and etc, that was the reason why some of the student will go for a loanshark. I was really frustated coz at the other hand, i cannot ask for their help to “persuade” my target if i was just a franchisee. after 4 months there i decide to leave, i just work a normal rest as a part timer where at least i can save some. i had enough experience of being lie to myslef and to my friend about how happy and blessed i’m to know about SYN (they will force u to clap or show the happy face infront of the t

  • RUdi

    (they will force u to clap or show the happy face infront of the the new target), beside i also spend more money by joining SYN cos they have this event like NDO, Party, IME etc (which i suspect that it was the way for the leader to earn the money since they charge u like RM 100 for each person to attend NDO with a bad lunch but we forced to say that it was reallyyyyyyyyy goodddd). If one of their member ask u to join the party, well actually is not a party, and is not fun, it was just one of the way for them to promote the item and praise the steven yeam and company by a stupid yel yel and they charge u not cheap(believe me please). You will be ask to stay until late just to talk further regarding the business and ask to listen for the sharing until u fell guilty if u want to leave (very clever rite). Well as the time goes, i finnaly get back to my normal life and about 1 months ago, i saw my old friend at the food court in midvalley , he used to drived his BMW that he said he get it after working in SYN, well we had talk since he used to be one of my close friend, n it was great since finnaly we can be talk honest to each other again especially regarding our opinion about the business, he initially a nice guy. A lot of fake that happen when i’m still a member there. Then i ask him is he still there, he said he still a member and he actually had sold his car since it was under loan and he could not afford to pay it (his upline forced him to buy to impress his target, like me hehe), he said he got no choice since he already spend a lot at syn and might consider leaving it if he continue his study in US later since he tired being chased by his upline (we are under duke joshua, i think the SYN member recognize this guys), well thats all about my story, hope will give u a consideration before joining the LAME BERGER, cheers

  • victim

    similar situation happened to me….
    they force me to join, by cheating me, they signed the money back policy agreement, so i cannot get my money back, if i want to, i have to follow, alots of procedure, and this must be done with the the present of the marquis, normally Lb members will signed this form for u…
    simply because, u dont know about the money back policy, and u will working so hard to search for your downline…
    eventhou im been victimise by this people, im very proud because my upline cannot rely on my downline, once i know i have been cheated i stop there…
    my upline only can work for 4 people down him…if this 4 people cannot achive anything by becoming barron or count, they cannot being promote to the another level….smart enough huh!!!!!
    if nobody enter to become Lb member, the 5-6 figures man there cannot get any income, even 1 cent…funny2…
    i get 1 infomation that, normally if u invest as a francisee, ur upline, will get RM500-700 according to their rank, if u invest 30k they will get 7k more or less, no wonder their income can reach up to 5 figures, if 1 month they can cheat 2 peoples to invest a count position, rM30k, they will get 14K…
    but this happen until when???
    if u wanna live like this, have a lots of money, by making trouble on people and live in afraid manner, go ahead… no body will stop u guys, but u have to remember, u have a family, ur mom, dad, sisters, brothers, ur wife, kids, if this happened to ur beloved one 1 day, u only will realise, belive in KARMA man…
    to all

  • http://deleted LB-for-Losers

    thank you for sharing with us!

    Anynonymous, You can go eat shit and die now!

    LB & SYN TO DIE!

  • LB_LB

    Thank you for the outburst Rudi and Victim. We understand and feel for you. Lame Berger? hahaha good one!

    To the other LB members, what else have you got to say now?

  • anti lambe berger malaysia

    good sharing from our fwen VICTIM N RUDI….
    all Lb members, shame on u la…
    ur face is like shit now…haha

  • janne

    well i just hope for the best, coz u know, its quite sad to see that if majority of the college student will leave what they had study just for being a full timer at MLM company, the country will be lacking of a professional worker then, This the things that those SYN suckers never think of

  • http://www.symke.com Malaysian

    ??

  • http://deleted LB-for-Losers

    All the faggots NC, JS, Ejam etc etc… and espcially that faggot retarded Anonymous, who couldn’t even give a nick to himself… Now all of you can shut your big mouth, take a pee and see your own blardee cheaters’ reflection of your worthless doggy face! Shame to all of you! The conclusion of such long debate is too obvious. LB & SYN or whatever is a pure scam! LB to die! Move on guys…move on!

    STAY AWAY FROM LB!

    Please educate all your friends and relatives and anyone at all. When the buying stops and when no new members join, these cheaters will then suffer!

  • RUdi

    Well, therefore we need to inform these youngsters especially the college student, since they were the most “wanted person” for this LAME BERGER rite now, tell ur friends to check out and read any blogs or opinions regarding SYN from the internet, dont do the same mistake like me and the others, coz i think most of us joining becoz we just believe in our friends, but its not their fault, the company make them had no choice. i still remember last time one of my leader even use a dirty tricks by making one person that they targeted feel being lefted by their friends if they not joining and since most of his downline is a group of students who are friends with each others, so if there any one of them left the company, he will tell the other members to expel/squeez him out so it will make him/her feel lonely and guilty hmmmmmm (thats why i really hated this guy, well i dont want to mention his name). Therefore i feel pity if i read or heard about a college student who had become the victim of SYN, becoz i know their tricks, they will said it was for your family, ur moms, ur dad, your love ones, so lets sacrifice now (by loan money to invest accont, 36K) so at the end u can make ur family proud. Well, actually there still one question that i hope any SYN members can answer me, i just wanna ask u, since all the great duke and mq always said that SYN is the way of sucess, you should be blessed to know this opportunity, its the only way to get a flexible time that most people dont had when they still working and etc, i just wonder, why there is still people who work as a accountant, beauticians, receptionist, counter attendants, transporter at the SYN/DCHL company ?why dont they just work as the others full timer ?better income what and they know this opportunity long time ago? any SYN members can answer me ?why none of u targeting them ?u see them everday rite in the office

  • kcufregrebempal

    i juz freakin hate all LB member..they r all suck up 2 stven yeap..all of them r cheaters..they put all their heart in making steven yeap become much richer..n betraying their frens trust!!

  • http://synbiz warga LB yg berjaya

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
    korang yg silap,plan LB mmg ok korg yg x ok..
    dah taw plan tu mmg blh tlg anda sumer berjaya knp x teruskan
    klu cabaran pertama iaitu tempuhi cabaran hutang pn dah mengeluh baek mati jerk….
    aku pn mcm korang gak join xberjaya pd mulanyer
    tp aku kuatkan semangat dan sekarang aku berhenti keje bt biz ni full time
    korang yg bodohhhhhhh

  • http://synbiz warga LB yg berjaya

    korang hanya taw mengkeritik sahaja,btnyer tidak
    bodoh melampau2,lg2 yg bru join 2bln tp xder seorg masuk dah mengalah
    cuba lah teruskan jer.maner taw bln depan blh pegi jauh….
    korang bodohhhhhhhhhhh

  • LB_LB

    Warga-LB,

    I am surprised you managed to distinguish what’s critics and praises. either way, what tokking you man??!! go read more books la! Bodoh!

  • Banana8388

    My name is Ban, i’m 19, from KL..Few months ago, I was called up by a high school friend of mine, a girl. She invited me to SkyBar for a drinking session, it’s her friend’s birthday, she need a company, so i did company her.

    When I was in the party, there are lots of people, I’m not so cautious about it since I know most of them.

    Then one of my friend came over to me and tell me they are all from Lampe Berger, then only I knew why I was called up.

    I was really interested of knowing this so-called-successful busisness. I’m a very curious person, I like to learn as many thing as possible. So they invited me to go to their company next day. I agreed because I heard alot of people telling me it’s a scam. I need to investigate the truth for myself.

    I wore casually, my hood and stuff and went to their building in KL. I saw lots of youngsters like me, 18-26 wearing suit and all. I’m impressed to be honest.

    Then in the building, the girl show me around and start telling me the product. I’m soooo impressed because I knew her as a girl that couldn’t study much in high school and had really bad SPM results. She can’t even go to college yet she can explain to me in details all the products description.

    So, we went to some coffee table(which is all over the place with all those smart looking people seems like discussing big business) and a group of 2 girls sat with me and start showing me the plan and all. Not gonna go in details since everyone here seems to know that.

    I really thought it’s a wonderfully crafted plan. The plan will works IN CERTAIN SITUATION. I’ll explain why later. So I acted in an agreeable situation. They persuaded me to join and they even handed me the form, I filled it up to make it looks believable so that they will show me even more.

    Then they started to show me all those so-called-successful people(don’t know it’s true or not) to talk to me and persuade me even further, they tell me stories of their own and stuff and even ask of my ambition. I’m a graphic designer, as a designer I have my very own strong opinions and ambition and wont be easily startled by words. And I did not join at last and stop all contacts with those friends at all.

    It seems to me the teamwork that they have been talking about is the way they team up and persuade(or brainwash) people’s mind. Don’t get me wrong, I do believe there are people out there get rich because of LB because this plan is awesome.

    PROs
    Why awesome? You just need to have lots of naive, greedy, do not know much about LB kind of friends and You have the superpower to persuade(or brainwash) them and yeah, maybe a little hardworking persuading(or brainwash, again)people, YOU will be able to drive the BMW or benz or whatever.

    You will get rich eventually, seriously. but…..now to the cons

    CONs
    Well, out of 10 of my friends knows about the plan and all of them said is a scam. I won’t agree about it as a scam nor disagree…not now…

    Now, you see all 10 of my friends said that, do you believe that I can succeed in this MLM business. I doubt it.
    Ok, that’s just me..

    Imagine, you joined LB and you ask your friend to visit the company(i was told it’s forbidden to tell your “prey” that you are going to bring them to LB office because they say it will ruin your chances to lure your “prey”), and then imagine 8 out of 10 of your friends said NO, and you have wasted almost a month or half a month depending on how effective and hardworking are you. ok, how bout the remaining 2? Those 2 will visit the company but what if those 2 later heard about the stories and they rejects you? yes, it’s just waste of time, I know, you can try even harder, you got more friends to persuade or maybe you are lucky one of those 2 is greedy and paid RM2345 to join, consider yourself won a mini-jackpot! yay!
    STOP!

    How bout the other 8 or 9 friends or yours that rejected you?
    “Who cares about them? They are just bunch of losers that losing out in such a good oppoturnity to get rich.” that is exactly what you will think. and from there, try evaluate yourself, where do you put your friends in your heart?
    I’m sure it’s below MONEY in your list. Money goes first.

    It is true that money plays an important part in our lifes.
    But losing friends that way is such a pitiful way.
    You hurts your friends. I’m sure your friends felt they have lost you as a friend. They won’t answer your phone, they won’t ask you out for drinks or clubbing or just meeting up. THEY WON’T because you ruined the friendship because of LB.

    Okay, some might don’t mind their friends are LB but for most, they are very wary about LB people and they try to avoid as much as possible.

    Now, you say, “So what, I don’t need those poor friends, now i’m friends with rich people, Steven Yeam is my godfather *ahem* you know. Yea, we can ROCK Singapore!”

    Personally, I rate LB people as soulless human. Human that is so blinded by greed is soulless. You know what, when I lay my eyes on LB people, I felt they lack something, and I believe they lack of LOVE.

    Yes, you may argue, with money, you are respected and adores by lots of people. Yes, you may argue again, “they love me for who i am.” but REMEMBER they love you because of your wealth. If I ask you, eh, how many more of your high school friends still contacts you? I believe you’d be ashamed to answer that question. Even if your family that once hated you for borrowing money from them to join LB will love you too.. BUT They too love you for you wealth!

    And so I heard of this Sentosa Beach party they had in Singapore in 2006. Over 10k of LB personnel were there. Amazing right? Yeah,but i’m really curious… I can’t imagine how does it feels like looking at 10k of LOVEless, SOULess people. I just can’t imagine.

    It’s a very long post, I know but I need to finish up with my conclusion…

    CONCLUSION

    I truly believe this is a do-able business. YES, if you are cruel, would sacrifice your lifestyles, your friends, your family, your job, your profession.
    Imagine, after 5 years in LB, you succeeded and got lots of money in hand, LEGAL ones. But after 5 years giving up your profession, the job that you worked as after you graduated from University or college with degrees and all, after 5 years, I believe you have forgotten what you’ve learned for your original ambition. You can only remember the figures and numbers on the MLM plan. The RM2345 and the percentages!

    Now, I believe people from LB are aware that if people keep talking bad about the company and then soon less people would join the company. As money don’t flow according to the plan, the company will crumble or SYN will crumble. But yes, those already earned lots of money have many reasons to laugh but put the above imaginary human into this situation where the company or the network crumbles and they will all be clueless filthy rich people. What they gonna do next, is everyone guess. But next thing you realize, you have lost your friends and families, all that is so important to you before joining LB has gone.

    Lastly, I would like to talk more about myself and why I’m expressing all these..

    I’m just a normal graphic designer, I dreamt of getting rich, driving sport cars too but my earning will not possible provide me that. But I love my job. Everyday I do a job that i love to do. I don’t have anyone talking bad about my job, I don’t have anyone arguing that this job is a scam in a blog like this one, I don’t have to hurt my friends, I don’t have to lose my friends, and this is my life… and i’m proud to tell people that I have a proper job that i really love..and I can say my life is…..

    S A T I S F Y I N G

  • http://krazl.com krazl

    I’ve new business.

    Prepaid card businesss.

    Have variety of cards.

    To join, pay me Rm 2.5K.

    To open francais, you need to pay me Rm35K.

    You’ll only recieve 5 Rm50 cards worth Rm250.

    This what i call business.

    remember, Rm35K is for francise…

    p/s: think…

  • LB_LB

    ey Krazl, very good business what. I heard this business can make you alot of money, u know? can drive bmw, u know? can have 5-6 figures u know? financial freedom oso, u know? No good ar this business? 2.5K to start oni what, can easily borrow from friends lor. franchise 35K oni?? a piece of cake la, can easily cheat all our hard earned parents’ money or bad to worse, borrow from Ah Long lor. Very easy what. Won’t die wan, in fact, the return very fast wan! Come lar, krazl, lets join la. Cheating is way of life! :mrgreen:

    HAHAHHAHAHAaaaaaaaa!!!!

  • Ronny

    FAke, fake and fake is the way that the LB members living their life, get rich but soulless and lonely, life full with lie and pretending. I’m not a LB members, but this was a confession of my friends (MQ YO) i even put his name, this was true my friends, is u LB people familiar with this name ?

  • kcufregrebempal

    an honest person wudnt join LB juz 2 get rich by cheating on other ppls money…LB ppl r not an honest ppl..no wonder ppl dun wanna be frens wif them..they only frens..r OTHER LB MEMBERS..n their mum who still luv her stupid child.dun make ur parents get involve wif LB.. it is a SIN..

  • kcufregrebempal

    banana8388
    i agree wif u…
    u give such a gud comment

  • anti lambe berger malaysia

    kau 2 yg bodoh WARGA LB YANG BERJAYA…
    ko pegi kat cash n coverters ampang point, ko tahu tak ktne??? ataupun kau ni memg bodoh tak tau nak membaca…
    harga minyak haram kau 2 di jual pada harga RM 73 ..aku ulang RM 73, sebab kau ni bodoh…steven yeam 2 jual kat kau ngn harga RM 237 kan, aku tau kau dapat diskaun kalau kau ni baron @ caout @ marquis, tapi setinggi mane pn rank kau, kau boleh beli nagn harga RM 73, cam di jual kat cash n converters ampang point 2 kalu kau beli kat HLA buliding kau 2 ???
    aku rase kau anal steven yeam la…mungkin xpayah bayar RM 73, die boleh bagi kau free je….

  • Banana8388

    kcufregrebempal> thanks.. I’m just expressing my thoughts after losing so many friends to LB. Not that my friends are bad person or what, but I think avoiding them will be better for me.
    Plus, they betrayed my trust on them. I had enough.

    What LB have done to people is more than anyone could imagine, tearing families apart, tainted friendships, bf and gf argue because of LB etc etc. The scamming they did is just like other scamming activities.

    To all those LB wannabe, please be aware that this business is not a good business anymore(it’s never a good business anyway).
    LB’s name is tainted and black listed among the societies, all they telling you is how u gonna earn tons of money, it’s easy, just have to find friends to join. Yes, it’s really easy, it SOUNDS easy actually. But try to think, u’re risking Rm2345 in a business unlikely to be successful nowadays. All the success has been achieved by the up-up-upperline when everyone is not so aware about this scam. It’s difficult business, even u’re really greedy, it’s just a gamble. STAY OUT OF IT. To those who wanna bring them down, just stop anyone from joining, spread the news, let ppl know, let ppl aware. Sooner or later, they will fall. It takes effort but save the cheerleader, save the world…ermm..i mean, save ur friends, save the world

    Why are we all telling that they BRAINWASH those ppl who comes to their company because it’s true, i experienced it first-hand myself, their tactic is confuse u and convert u into a greedy man/woman. IF they still can’t convince u, they will start bringing ppl to tell u that they does this business to support their families, want their parents to retire early, all those sad stories hoping that it will concides ur own situation as well, hoping that u’re facing the same problem that they “HAD” before(which i doubt it).

    They are playing with ur mind and I think it’s illegal, it’s just like hypnotizing but in a clearer state of mind. Although i’ve never been to their seminar(need to pay, thats y :P ) but i believed that some of their seminar includes mind manipulating. In fact, i believe while they teaching their personnel the psychological part of this business, at the same time they manipulate their personnel’s mind as well.. confused?

    Figure it out, it’s just a simple mind game.

    This is just part of Lampe Berger scamming system, well, they claimed it’s not scamming and they got approval from the PM of Malaysia but I doubt it’s all clean. I smell something fishy behind the political scene.

  • anti lambe berger malaysia

    woi ahli LB dah g belum cash n converters ampang point….
    all of u lB members’s are loser

  • anti lambe berger malaysia

    what a good comment from our fwen BANANA8388,
    1 day all LB members will realise that they have nothing, only their fairy tale stories and dreaming…haha

  • Neutral

    why not we just check out the product is it really work?
    i heard it’s from france, so i try check out http://www.lampeberger.fr, it really there… this site proven have the correct info by french embassy
    i duno la, but i believe the product…

    notes: i’m not part of the LB YET…

  • LB_LB

    if you believe the product, then just go buy the product from off-the-shelf. You can try the place antilampberger suggested.

    The key focus is to boycott that LB & SYN! LB to die!

  • Banana8388

    We are boycotting the company not the product. Don’t go and waste your money

  • MQ ACHAI

    Hehe… so funny things had been happen n happen from past till now.. maybe there R some ppl dat jealous of other ppl success.. but juz wanna ask 1 question.. how many ppl in this world? how many of them r rich? i think u better find out about it then u’ll now the exact amount.. dis for ur information oso ma.. u still study ma kan? Hehe.. if success is easy then why there is only few ppl done it? success is not an easy thing to do.. to success there will have many lvel b4 being success.. of coz have de hard time,de tired time,de sad time n etc is de stage n a MUST!! but all prob dat exist r made to be solved.. am i rite? kite fly bcoz it face up de wind.. think bout de meaning..
    ooo yeah.. n 1 more thing.. about de capital? hurm… is there any rgulation in de company dat said u must invest 36K to start dis biz?? is there? F.Y.I dat 36K is to make ur prcntage higher.. for example.. if u open a shop then i ask u to choose either u open it in some place which rent only RM2500 per month or open it in Bintang Walk Which cost u RM10000++ per month? which 1 do u prefer? de rm2500 or rm10000++ place? both can give u profit n u can choose bout it.. but i think u oso can calculate which shop give u more profit maaaa… :)
    so if there’s ppl dat haven’t know bout de marketing plan yet better u dont talk about it.. y im talking like this bcoz why student always thinking, try to understand , learning n memorized it when their teacher talk about something n teach bout something? bcoz their know that their teacher have more knowldge then them..
    So my suggesstion for all of SUPER NEGATIVE ppl out there better u go n find someone dat can explain all of this thing to u.. u all R always welcome to learn about de marketing plan.. N F.Y.I we didnt hope dat all of u will do the biz.. but we juz wan to make ppl understand bout de biz n be NEUTRAL.. K? :)
    bUBye..

  • Anti LB

    DAMN! This Lampe Burger as known as LAMB BURGER was currently a suckest MLM thing i ever heard! What! RM2345 for juz the member! BASTARD! :mad:
    Lampe Berger Help:
    Tell me what your company got? Steal information from others MLM company? i used to do another MLM company! But 1 day, i found a guy and he said he interest in MLM of the company that i do! But, when i told him the marketing Plan! He told me that: “If others company marketing plan earned money was higher, would u like to join?” wow..then i only realise that he is a bastard that wan to pull me to his Lame Berger co. from mine MLM company. :evil: what! i meet him he only told me that he was a MLM from others company..and i told him, what company u are? He juz simply said 1 company that named “OS??? OD???” i tell him all my marketing plan and he said he wan noe more.. is this call stealing our idea??? DAMN la.. Somore said their product good.. what good??? Still need to waste a 3 dollar for juz buying the lighter! WTF? still nvm la..but when we light up the fire..u can noe how dangerous is it! Can hurt our finger! can burn the home..and probaly, it has Pollution environment! oh god!! DAMN~~~ i juz noe this company was freaken hell! Others company like “AMWAY” “ELKEN” “AVON” are more best then this!

  • Banana8388

    To reply on MQ ACHAI’s comment,

    You are wrong to compare LB or DCHL’s MLM marketing plan with opening a business, HELL, you guys don’t even want to open a business because you guys are lazy bastard that wanna get rich fast by scamming others money.

    I have got to know the marketing plan myself by confronting and hearing and gone through all the brainwashing and the conclusion… the plan is a bloody SCAM!

    The formula, ur upperline or partner asked u to join, u pay up RM2345, then u ask more ppl to join and they pay the company RM2345 as well then all the money start to divide and be given to the upper-upper-upperline.

    It’s a bloody scamming cycle that will seemingly never end.

    The upperline is getting richer, the downline is working harder like slave to ask ppl join whereas many ppl aware that it’s a scam. In the end most of the downliners will quit soon after they earn back their RM2345 which they realised has been scammed.

    No need to defend ur marketing plan, please. It’s so bad that i wanna puke at it.

  • anti lambe berger malaysia

    MQ achai,
    juz wasting ur money to buy your oil…people ou there think again…
    i know, u r marquis, but how much do u gonna pay for 1 liter eucalaptus oil…rm237 rite?? yes i know, u can get discout, 40++%…
    but a normal person, no need to become MQ, can but it at the price of 73…
    haha… so cheap ur product ma….
    r u don have any dignity, and shame at urself….
    all LB members are more n more stupid, stil dun realise that, ur bisnes is not a good bisnes,
    hey, try to search any ethical bisnes la man….

  • LB_LB

    Hi MQ Achai,

    I try to understand from your perspective, but i really cannot reach my ass to do so. The way you make your comparison makes you a person who really qualifies as a LB Member. Just stay in LB and be RICH ok? Any attempt to make you understand or to leave LB will only be futile. All the best Achai. Btw, don’t forget to scratch your steven Yeam’s balls later ok? Have fun!

    LB & SYN to die! hahaha!!!

  • LB_LB

    Anymore retarded faggot LB Supporters here?

    Bring ‘em on!

  • anti lambe berger malaysia

    haha..
    anal steven yeam la LB members…
    thats the easy way to get rich…

  • Anti LB

    No matter what..Lampe Berger was suck…they said can smell and make u a good sleep…make u cant runningnose..cant cough..cant sick…tthis la that la..but..my dad used to bought last time.. once i smell..i told my parents:”This was crAP!” what a stupid smell! what a waste of money!
    If you guys wanna make for health, just drink something that it is healthy, example: Orange Juice la… or go buy the product selling that was good FOr Example: Amway products…
    eh, eat was better than smell u noe? u eat the food and u can feel not hungry. but u smell the lampe u can feel more hungry and so cant even wan to eat!
    i prefer eating the product that was healthy and i believe many of them works! however! Smell this product(Lampe Berger) will just hur my life! destroy my body! That is wat i feel! SucK!

    Why dont we just buy a RM20 perfume or fresh air stuff to put at our home?For example:Ambupure(u guys noe?) that smell nicer than the RM200+ product!

  • NC

    Well2, Anti LB (reply to other anti LB),

    This proof 1 major thing. You all r just a bunch of competitors interest fools from other MLMs!!!!!. Coz if there is major leak hole in LB system for entrepreneur lik other pro LBs it will definitely destroy the network & the company way early ahead before you all numb nuts start to type a single letter in this page!!!!
    ====
    Definitely, Consumer Affairs (the real one not the fake 1) already sue DCHL! You dont see 1 thing here ! Let me explain, YOU anti LB – in actual fact YOU anti the people.Did the system of network marketing created this? Or is just the upline who failed to respond to the responsibility and only interested to the creditability on the system? Dont get it? Here let me simplify it.
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    If there is a responsible upline in every single MLMs act on the actual network marketing and bare responsible of the company’s objectives and follow the guidelines of the company’s policy. This dispute on the system will not happen.This means downline have to communicate well with their uplines. (Does this apply to you)
    ====
    The product is definitely from France. Manufactured & packed in France.Well I cant deny there is people sell their lampe in Cash Converters & is only RM63! I know the person who sold it. He (He is not a LB member) told me it was purchased from some Marque in Penang back in early days, some where 7 years ago. FYI, early days Taiwanese brought in LB and Taiwanese marketing plan aka direct selling. After Steven Yeam came back from HK, and revive back our marketing plan to network marketing aka global marketing. You may say it just terms that LB use to fool ppl’s eyes but do we? Or is just ppl scare of asking loans from close ones (to start of a business?)
    ====
    Example: person A from a direct selling company want to start of a business in MlM..product A cost RM1900+ (easy payment available) He may not capable to purchase to do demo to ppl & make ppl confident in him but HOW does he start off then? With the help of his UPLINE, he borrowed the product and persuaded his close family to purchase instead! ( In your mind is PRODUCT MAKE BELIEVE! But in LB mind is PERSUADING make CONFIDENT result of TRYING! And for ANTI MLM’s mind is BOTH ARE FAKE!)Which are you?
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    Thus this remain unanswered and you all here keep twisting fate around & around & hope there is eternity happiness in wat you all pursuit in. This is wat we call Escapade of Reality!. There is hundreds of MLMs company out there but there is none who pioneer in multi racial and bringing France’s luxuries to Malaysia except LB. You may see as the market has no place for this product and IF WE DONT CREATE THE MARKET WHO ARE THE PIONEER THEN? YOU? I DONT THINK SO! You all (who are in MLM industry) are just merely a follower of 20th/30th generation of your pioneer, THAT IS WAT YOU CALL PROUD OF? We are only 8 years in the market and has created hundreds more millionaires coz WE ARE STILL IN PROGRESSIVE PIONEER STAGE ! LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE! This is wat WE SHOULD PROUD OF!
    ====
    AND SHUT UP, LB_LB and anti lambe berger malaysia!! Dont say or type something stupid and make a FOOL out of your self! Although YOU feel SO PROUD of your self because YOU ALL are using nicknames but in ACTUAL FACT you are just from another MLMs and just wanna provoke a dispute images on others MLMs company. PROOF ME WRONG!!!!

  • Anti LB

    Wowowow!! NC! NC!
    you are definately wrong..!
    Although i am from others MLM company..but i respect the others MLM company! Their marketing plan was great! Their things was trustable! but for LB! omg! i really cant explaine tat kind of stingy smell! What?! you think you guys 8 years in company was very very PRO? what i tell you is..your product of your company was definately Expensive! and so your company earn much! and for the 1st 8th year! What goes to your company? 8 year only there were few billions complain around the world! Looks at others company! i did not even heard any complaine yet even do, there were just little!!! What you talk about up there you said is true? well, 1 question! Are you a LB or DCHL company MLM distributors? if you are, how much you earn and did you use the product everyday? if you are not, then tell me the reason why u so like LB and why don you join???

  • CM

    to Anti LB,
    How much actually u earn from your MLM company per month? since you ask the quetion to NC. fair for others to known also… :) what’s is your company selling?? is it cheap?? is the product is confirm good ?

  • Anti LB

    for CM..i juz cant tell u the product of mine MLM is 100% works..but it was good! saved many people life as they proof it! and i didnt mean lampe berger product sucks but i mean it totally crap! how can u smell something to get u healthy? just noe that we can smell till die.
    then this is the answer you wanna noe
    I earned 3k for my 1st month.(now is mine 1st month only)
    Maybe u think that i am a crap tat juz support mine own MLM company..
    but no way man..not like this,…
    i am 18 years old now! and what i wan to told you was:
    I am looking for an MLM job since i graduate form 5!
    I go to find as many MLM company to hear about the product!
    and i noe it was good!
    then the way i think was..AMWAY..ELKEN…HerBalife..Totalife..and lots lots lots..
    i used about 8 month to think about which MLM company i am going to! the 1st MLM company i put out was not Lampe Berger but is Amway..yyea…lots of us heard about that before! one of the world greatest MLM company… then recently..i heard alots of bad news of Lampe berger! and the way of the member fees was DAMN DAMN high… so tat was no way i joined in…
    So..the choice of mine was thinking of 8 month! and i wont tell you what company i am doing..maybe 1 of the company i list there..maybe not..
    And when ppl told me LB sucks..i dont really think so until i tried it..omg..tat was true..the price was expensive… when i burn the bottle it was dangerous… oh..i thinking if people burn the lampe berger were burn his home out or not.. and our atmosfere were been destroy by this crap man…sad~

  • Sohai LB

    i totally agree what Anti LB said..
    others company product was trustable..
    but LB..no way..
    buy a RM20 Ambipure put at my home was better than buy a few hundred dollar crap

  • NC

    :lol: You all already know the way of making to the top but in a different path of marketing plan! LB may not your cup of tea but doesnt meant tat is a midnight burning oil only! :lol:
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    Bout stingy smell? It shows tat u hav major sinus prob, bro. Check wit ur ENT specialists.You talking bout respect? Do you really understands ur marketing plan well? Yes ur 1st month was overwhelmed, but do u still hav to look for consumer & biz partners? U talked bout knowing their marketing plan. Tell me more than wats makes different in niche instead of general topics. Let me tell u bout wat i know –>
    ====
    Company A, 40years in d market, previously known as door to door knocking system, American product. After 40years later new system comes in called B** (something2 – reason to encourage diff approach & more educate whilst systematic) Pro, revival of new marketing plan + products + very minimal investment aka sign up fee. Con, market follower of consumer behavior (domestic product-tooth paste, detergent, polisher & etc, health supplement-vitCs, colostrum,tea & etc)Main competitor, domestic product – commercial tooth paste, detergent & etc.Same goes to health supplement. Co.A backup plan, create great testimonial from famous athletes, plus persuaded the coach who happen to an member of co.A. Extra credit for that.Of course, plus certify from FDA & etc. Have you heard back in 80s they hav to withdraw a product due not FDA approved & cause food poisoning? It near killed that athlete.PLUS 1 major thing in co.A is POLITICS! THIS WAT UR MOST SENIOR UPLINE’S DARK SECRET. But u tell ur self this will not happen in ur group. Forget bout training centre or branches, wat ever you call it. Remember this Quality counts in Numbers. Check again..Btw, no hard feeling co.A stand strong for 40years coz their do hav a great marketing plan & R&D facility in America.But do u think u can b a professional product consultant?
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    Company E, 12years in d market, known as Made In Malaysia & Most Successful MLM Compnay & purposely cater for Malaysian needs.Start of with a minimal sign up fee & obtain ‘free consumer able’ products.Product similar wit co.A but co.E has their secret weapon! Beauty products used by artistes in Korea! Wow tat remember ‘PRODUCT MAKE BELIEVE’? Used by artistes in Korean and advertisement in Japan.Wat is the need in this era? Beauty? Health? Wealth? Luxuries? work on tis formula H + W x L = B or B + H + W = L? Tis just like chicken 1st or the egg 1st.Again their product receive a few countries creditability. But hav u heard bout some guy when into coma coz food poisoning due to unhealthy diet program (tis is very disturbing for some ppl out there but is true tat guy mis use the product & diarrhoea! Y tis happen? Excessive of using slimming product causes it. Moral: Dont take things excessively.Support centre, offices renovated as shopping mall, (remember, co.A & co.E is consumer base & whilst they looking for consumer, they need to expend their network.)There is 1 thing, u r a market follower not a pioneer, U dont create d market. But do u think u can b a professional nutritionist?
    ===
    Co.E-Excel, HerBalife, Totalife, SuangHor, NuLife, Hai-O Marketing (known as 99 Network)& CNI starting to practice the same method of LB but NOT practicing our essential culture + full support from upline, side line & company!
    =
    E-Excel has been known well in Malaysia nearly same age with co.A but it is very expensive due to the R&D in overseas on plants. How many ppl would afford to consume its product in order to get the result? Herbalife emphasizes in herbal products tongkat ali, kacip fatimah & etc.Totalife do come up a few interesting product but thier marketing plan? :wink:
    SuangHor = Lingzhi (aged mushroom family known to be Mushroom of Longevity, 1st founded in China, spread across Japan in the era 16th century.Does brings wealth to the traders back then)

    All I mention above is all either health supplement (consumer base) & non of them is air purifying technology. LB products does not use electricity. Pro, new market, fresh unattended market. Win-win situation business achievement. Pioneer stage marketing plan.Cons, may costly due to expanding result. This applies to all the pioneer stage of ur other MLM companies too. But none practice it ethically. But here we practice it transparently & with responsible.It tailored for small, medium & large setup of a company. Direct transaction thru the company! The marketing plan is so transparently understandable but yet ppl call it is a scam! A scam is wen a company does not give you product.A marketing plan is wen they tell you how much this product cost in local, internet & overseas.
    Site you can refer to & how ppl do the business in oversea & here in Malaysia.You PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF NEW THINGS!!! AFRAID OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP!!!That has potential market!
    ==
    Btw, u may heard some drastic poison caused by a lampe in HK. FYI, it was in the news but it was been manipulated. A girl(a LB member) been cheated by the boyfren (known has play out a lot of girls b4), tried to suicided by drinking the oil. FYI, the heart broken girl does not d oil is pure alcohol+essential oil aka flammable (read the label)It caused extremely bowel irritation. But this does not mean u can claim EURO6mil insurance if u try to suicide wit it. STUPID!She survive, just admitted & clear her bowel.
    ==
    And, a HK study on the product that claims it cant help to purify the air
    search YouTube lampe berger report (is in Chinese).Its kinda blur but if you can see closely, the machine tat they shown is just a printer, a computer but where is the VOC equipment? The air quality detector is the precise equipment to test it but why is not shown?Its just a close up of the lampe & a detector wit printed out paper shown wat compound tat its has.(visual very blur)So want more product knowledge?
    ==
    LB marketing plan? Its already mention out generally, but only entrepreneurs would understand tat. Self Reflect, brothers! Good Luck!

    For more info on licences: http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?action=pub&pub=1641
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    For RELATIVITY complaints: http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?cpath=72_153&pub=e_aduan
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    For more about Truth on Lampe Berger
    http://www.lampeberger.fr/apropos.php?menuHaut=1&univers=0

  • confusion

    Is there anyone can tell me..you pay

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    HOI… stupid NC…
    im an architect,
    have no time 2 diz stupid, asshole MLM…especially LB..Lubang Burit..
    what story hah???u know the mQ who was selling ur precious oil…
    as i know. ur precious product is illegal for the distributor to sell it out…
    ko cite ngn budak 5 tahun boleh la…
    bodoh…if u know, go there and sue them la…
    mis u alot NC.. long time no c…
    but now u show off ur face here.. im sory man…with full of steven yeam shit in ur face..
    go back n “cuci” la…haha

  • tae

    all stupid…wasting time to talk bullshit….
    i love lb…i joined one year adi…syn changed my life….
    in our company is very easy to get success but also very easy to get failure….its depends on u….
    everyone also hav their dream…they got many ways to achieve their dream….
    stop talking bullshit lah….pls worry about your own life…
    i am just 19…..but i hav my own financial freedom…bcoz syn…
    and…

  • CM

    to Anti LB,
    wow~ 3K for the 1st month… what’s a good MLM business, izzit a lot of effort need to put in kah? mean in order to get 3K per month? or for the 1st month? u minght to share more about how your success in getting the 3K for the 1st month.? why so screct about the MLM compnay u attach to?? :???: u make me feel u got something which can’t tell me in a direct way same like others MLM sucker do… doing thing solok solok only…. this is bad. how to trust what u claim about LB~??? i am really curious about u now…. i tough u are one out of thousand of the good man who can provide correct information and guideness about MLM companys in Malaysia. please share your success story with me before i think i am wrong.

  • NancyC

    Well2, anti lampe berger malaysia,
    Told YOU NOT squirts words around b4 u think carefully!. Since ur r familiar wit LB’s plan hav u ever thought of having ur own firm? How would u wanna built tat? Stupid Malay Act Shit Act! architect = arc (act), hit (shit), ect (Act).
    ===
    Time? Tat is y u done hav time!! Still dont get it? Ur time spent on in significant ideology of urs!
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    Get my story right! A guy bought tat lampe from some MQ, 7 years back then & do not wan to use anymore coz he don see d idea of keeping it.Ask the collectors & porselin mastery ppl – y do ppl keep the porselin bowls,tea cups, tea drinking sets, porselin lampes, stamps, wines & etc.
    ===
    Guess, ur self ignorance & ego already bring u to another stupidity level of loneliness & no real life + this is just a beginning. Mark my words! Look at ur self now with bunch of ur frens who r in ur circle! Don tell me u dont hav time 4 tat! If u dont hav time, make a time. Self Reflect ! Then u realize wat i’m talking about. U may say is bullshit! But is no harm of trying..ur ego & profession is just merely earning ur time out. Wat RM5k per month for junior architect? Senior architect,RM9k – RM15k?
    Manager level, RM15k-RM26k?Share partner or datuk, RM150+? Wat u invested in? TIME!!!!!!IN RETURN OF $$$$$!!! IDIOT!
    ===
    Btw there is a ‘SHIT RESTAURANT’ in KOREA tat i would luv to try, they use toilet stools & shit deco, well is a trend thou…Try something new! May it opens up ur mind.. not accepting it but acknowledge it!

  • confusion

    I have a request. In DCHL company, you pay

  • anti lampe berger malaysia

    NASTY CRAP(NC)..
    so pity wif u..
    what senior architect can earn 9k per month???
    even we earn 100 per month..we stil get d money, but u, as a stupid dumb LB members, u don get even a single cent, unless u make a dog face and suck as many as people money for hat month…pity2
    shame on u la, the salary that u get is based on the people bread n butter working for their rest of life, eg KWSP, then u suck that money, for ur own benefit..
    who’s malay???thats y u know the act ah????stupid ass hole..
    go back an study first, dont just follw what ur upline say..u are like a dog who follow his master,
    if alot of people saying something bad to ur co. there may be a somthing wrong,
    im stil curios, did u know that alot of LB members who promote the new investers to join, they r signing the agreement form for them.the agreement about the money back policy.mostly the new investor did not know about this, and after 3month they cannot get anything, ur beloved members do dat simple because, before 3 months, they r not fully get the money rite???.dat legal hah???what act now??Ladang BAbi act ah???
    go back n do a reasearh first, dont just copy n follow anything that ur upline say…

  • —— hahaha —-

    to anti lampe berger malaysia;
    u wrote only all dirty word … i tell u ~.. is your mun is a bitch ~ always get fuck by Dog~ your dad even worst … fuck bitch … because your mun fuck by dog then your dad fuck your mun after your mun get fuck from dog. you is even worst you fuck back you mun smelly chi bai~. you are really a chi bai kia~. because born by chi bai mun. your go die lar… chi bai kia.~ kia su ~> hahahaha your are really a asshole … son of the bitch … kakakakaka smelly chi bai kia ~. CHI BAI KIA CHI BAI KIA …..

  • KIA SU – Anti Lampe Berger Malaysia

    YAYA>>> Chi bai kia ~~ hahaha really a chi bai kia of anti lamper berger malaysia… use name also like chi bai … HAHAHAHA >>>>> Anti Lampe Berger Malaysia >>> see his ~~ NA NA NA >>>> CHI BAI LAN CIU HAM KA CHAM~>>>

  • Anti LB

    hey CM..you ask me all that question why dont you ask yourself??? Come on man..ask yourself la… i own 3k..but u can? u mean i steal a…? Piss off la..i noe u are too jealous of me for my 3k..maybe u did not do tat…shame on u lah…u wan noe my company izzit? than add me la…ronaldsteven@hotmail.com… i told u more… wan earn money at here izzit? iterest izzit?
    and i dono why LB ppl all quite rude wan..ecspecially i met few guys at KFC few days ago… do their suckest face while they think they are rich..puikz!
    and for NC..i lazy read wat the fuk are u talking..juz a piece of crap!

  • Banana8388

    earn money by conning other ppls money and get rich, im so proud of LB ppl. NOT! puik! u guys are such filthy ppl, dirty! ur mouth stink, ur body odour stink, ur “bmw” stink!

  • cm

    to anti lampe berger malaysia
    you say u are tire reading my msg to u …. ok~… then stop reading my comment to you. you thin you earn 3K is more kah~… hahahahaha you are stupid… 3K ~ NA !!!!! hahahaha 3K u think is very big kah ~… yes i think maybe for your age is big…. hahahaha because u have never earn more than 3K before… HAHAHAHAHA stupid… u go back and think … think about your future lar… 3K guy..>~ hahahahahaha continue earning your 3K lar… good for you~>.. u want me to add u ~>.. fuck you lar… awho you think u are… u are just 3K permonth…. you think you are so big kah… if your lan cau is big then ok lar… and your MLM company is chi bai MLM company … born you a chi bai KIA> you also continue to cheat your fren lar… think before telling your fren you are earning 3K permonth….. stop conning your fren say your are earning 3K permonth… because your are a cheater also … same like others LB memeber… no diffenrent… U REALLY A CHEATED>>>>> for others …. dun ever trust this asshole… trust yourself… DUN trust this stupid guy….HAHAHAHAHAHA >>>> NANANANANANANAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @

    to BANANA …. sound like banana ( LAN CAU )
    is your LAN CAU also smelly ~>…. i dun known … ask you mun maybe she will known…. because your mun suck it before… make sure you have wash you banana before let your mum suck on it ok~>… talk lan cau word only… because you like to smell other ppl chi bai and lan cau … you better go chow kit stand on the road side like those ah Kua do… smell ppl lan cau and suck ppl cock… because you like to suck LB ppl lan cau …. Whahahaa …. o~… i am wrong … why ??? because you known LB ppl lan cau is smelly mar..?? WHAHAHA you go die lar… ham ka cham.

  • @

    :lol: to BANANA …. sound like banana ( LAN CAU )
    is your LAN CAU also smelly ~>…. i dun known … ask you mun maybe she will known…. because your mun suck it before… make sure you have wash you banana before let your mum suck on it ok~>… talk lan cau word only… because you like to smell other ppl chi bai and lan cau … you better go chow kit stand on the road side like those ah Kua do… smell ppl lan cau and suck ppl cock… because you like to suck LB ppl lan cau …. Whahahaa …. o~… i am wrong … why ??? because you known LB ppl lan cau is smelly mar..?? WHAHAHA you go die lar… ham ka cham. :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Anti LB

    to CM…
    i no force you to add me wor…and you really sohai la..
    i mean i do for the 1st month then get 3k…u noe??? I am a part timers oni! i do study!
    not like u lah? fuck here and there..cibai here and there..
    u think i forever get 3k? read nicely la!!!!!sohai!!!!
    i write i get 3k in my 1st month! but at this january i am going to get 12k by juz sitting at home everyday..sleep eat play games! you dare not add me cause i noe you cant earn tat much! Such a noob people!

  • cm

    to Anti LB,
    >>>> FUCK YOU

  • LB_LB

    Wow! hey, anti-lampeberger Malaysia, did you let these dogs out? Who let these dogs out? They are barking non stop lar, Whoever let these dogs out, please redeem them asap! Darn, that dumbass steven yeam must have forgotten to lock his cage.

    As i always said, you LB dogs have never failed to amaze all of us. Saying you guys literate is an understatement. Calling you guys dogs are already considered a form of respect. Hmm… i thought NC was bad enough, and here comes all the other doggies. Go leave your droppings somewhere else man. Nuisance!

    To all the other civilised people, the way these Retarded LBs make fun of a banana and what they relate a banana to, has simply demonstrated their depth of knowledge. Oh well, how much can we expect if these Retarded Dumbass Nuisance LBs actually have their diapers changed by their grandma hourly and have their sisters spoon-feeding them?!

    Not surprising how LB & SYN have successfully groomed these Faggots into such state of mind!

    To conclude, i am very sure the rest of you know what’s best for you already. Stay away from LB & SYN!

    LB & SYN to DIE!

  • Anti LB

    come la..scare u ah..NOOB CM

  • Banana8388

    to @
    Banana=lan cau? what the hell? u wanna say lan jiao is it? poor kid…. tsk tsk tsk..u dont even know how to call ur MUM..i mean, MUN in ur case…

    whats all the sucking issue and chow kit? lol.. wow, u sure know alot about chow kit and the cock sucking things huh? i bet u worked as those cock sucker as well to earn ur RM2345 before joining LB..how long it took u? i mean, how many cock did u suck to get so much money to dump into the “sea”?

    hmmm…well, smelling ppl chi bai is part of having sex, i think thats a good thing, thanks for the compliment. ;)

  • Banana8388

    oh and btw, no one seems to bother my comment.. am i not that rebelious to u LB? im sad…all they can say to me is that i suck ppl’s cock and that is so weak…so pathetic…sigh

  • LB_LB

    hey banana, not surprising at all ler. I heard they suck steven Yeam’s cock more often than not so that they get downlines. Euuu… Yucks! Besides, what do you expect these faggots to know other than cock and chi bai? Retarded faggots!

    LB & SYN to die!

  • NancyC

    Again LB_LB & others (LB members) made a FOOL out of themselves!
    ==
    As I told u b4, there r many ppl out there n there is no teaching to ignore the anger provoked by U! Is just an expression on disagreement on ur point of view in MLM (LB). N u always has the motto of ‘LB & SYN to die!’ Don’t u feel tat it take just a paragraph of words to bring down DCHL (The office)?
    ===
    So,again which 1 r targeting? N wat legal action u did? NONE! Wat does it meant? U ARE JUST TALKING CRAP & FAKING ALL THE AGENDA TO FOCUS ON YOU LIKE AN SSS O!!!

  • NancyC

    IT TAKES MORE TAT A NONSENSE BLOG TO TAKE DOWN LB!!

  • Cut

    LB People i HOpe u ALL dead, U all just like a vampire or zombie u know, just spreading the virus to others until they become a money sucker like u guys, what a dickhead u all, Fuck atai, fuck joshua, fuck winnie lim, fuck steven yimshit !!!! u all retarded monster

  • LB_LB

    wow Nancy, trying to be sacred person here ar?

    you kept saying ‘making a fool out of yourself’, but if the majority, if not everyone, were to have the same chain of thoughts, wouldn’t you have 2nd reservation that you yourself are indeed a fool instead? Your attempt to be righteous has somewhat backfired. You didn’t just demonstrate how shallow you are, you have also proven to us that you’re nothing but a spastic child who couldn’t even exercise the same coherent of thoughts. Don’t understand? Ok for example, look at what you just said….

    ”As I told u b4, there r many ppl out there n there is no teaching to ignore the anger provoked by U! Is just an expression on disagreement on ur point of view in MLM (LB).”

    This is utter bullshit. There is no teaching to ignore the provoked by U? What tokking you la? Expression on dissagreement? hahaha… you made my day!

    If you’re not competent enough, then just stay away or not your comments will be dealt with scathingly. Hmm come to think of it, why don’t i start a theraphy specially for you? You definitely need help!

    There’s more in life other than worshipin’ steven yeam!
    Oh yah, of course ”paragraph of words” (another stupid remark made by nancy) can’t bring down the physical office, but at least we can stop innocent people from being conned. WHen there are no members, LB & SYN will eventually die!

    Retarded bunch of fools! Especially Nancy! Ohh.. there’s NC and Nancy? Hahaha, ok i guess it, it must be another impersonation by NC. This isn’t the first time anyway. Hahaha! Retards!

    LB & SYN to die!

  • NancyC

    Haha funny little retarded LB_LB,

    Finally you r talking like a person. Coz previously i thought u r just a tail wager. But now it shows more solid tat u r worse then a tail wager! U should b a NAIVE & UNTHOUGHTFUL ant!.

    At least I’m using my real name! Not lik u hiding like a coward bitch! (Although u sounds lik a male bt is WISE to add fe in U!) U r smart bt not smart enough.Well at least u r proud to make ppl belief in u bt WHERE IS YOUR SOLID PROVE???!!!!.Blog is just a blog, name can b made up. N u stupid fools believes in it! Haha

    Wat competent? Or u just felt treated? LOL!Wat first time? I impersonate ppl? well NC & Nancy C is the same person.

  • LB_LB

    Dear Hyena Nancy,

    ey why are you laughing at yourself so much la? It’s part of LB’s strategy ar? When you’re being called a dog and called spastic, retart etc, you just laugh it off? Haha!

    Your rebuttals are so dumb that it doesn’t even crack as a joke. Unthoughtful ant? Ey read more books and at least beef your vocab. If you couldn’t even differentiate the meaning between ”then” and ”than”, i rest my case. Go get yourself an english teacher to brush your comprehension modules.

    Add fe in U? hahaha! you never fail to amaze me with your choice of words. Keep em’ coming. Am always interested to expose how nuisance and dumb LB members are. Oh well, i wouldn’t stereotype LB members as a whole, there are decent and innocent ones who got conned, BUT people like you, have dropped to an extend whereby any stray animals can piss at you.

    What retarded hyena you are! what tokking you again about ”felt treated”? treated with what la? u meant ”threat” issit? hahaha! dumbass!

    Okay now you can strap on your diapers and please do all of us a favour, go Flush your Numbskull in the toiletbowl. I hope it freshens you up! Haha!

    LB & SYN to die!

  • anti lambe berger malaysia

    -hahaha-
    …i know u r 1 of the memebers here….
    to all naive person out ther…u can c here, how LB members will react wen u provoke them,
    eg wen u get in, u cannot get any profit or new partner, u ask for there guidence n help….that is the way they will say 2 u..
    better u stay away from this people. find another ethical job, dont juz get the money from another people difficulties…

  • NancyC

    Well LB_LB,

    this shows tat how u only read in single means and never read behind the lines. Or u just felt treated? = Simple English is ‘Do u felt that have been served?’ (Have u heard bout a proverb, A good language is not a language if nobody would understand. But if u read n learn the language u practice in, u still make no difference if u use it in a simple manner.) Dumb Jack Ass!

    U r just pin point my errors but u never knew wat i’m tell any how coz u have been an ignorance to the real subject! Well I laugh it off coz is just another psychology war u r playing! Well wat would U wan a person to react? Shout it off? Facing it with real facts?I’m choosing the 2nd. Resting ur case? I hope Not! May U REST IN PEACE & IN PIECES TOO!

    anti lambe berger malaysia, then go ahead and earn ur RM100 per month!

    Viva la LB!

  • NancyC

    Well LB_LB,

    this shows tat how u only read in single means and never read behind the lines. Or u just felt treated? = Simple English is ‘Do u felt that have been served?’ (Have u heard bout a proverb, A good language is not a language if nobody would understand. But if u read n learn the language u practice in, u still make no difference if u use it in a simple manner.) Dumb Jack Ass!

    U r just pin point my errors but u never knew wat i’m tell any how coz u have been an ignorance to the real subject! Well I laugh it off coz is just another psychology war u r playing! Well wat would U wan a person to react? Shout it off? Facing it with real facts?I’m choosing the 2nd. Resting ur case? I hope Not! May U REST IN PEACE & IN PIECES TOO!

    anti lambe berger malaysia, then go ahead and earn ur RM100 per month!

    Guess u have not lodge any report or complaints to KPHD
    Lodge ur complaint to : http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?cpath=72_153&pub=e_aduan

    Viva la LB!

  • Anti LB

    No Matter what you guys said..
    LB is a crap!!! Crap of bullshit! Crap of Their money~

  • NancyC

    ~YAWN~
    same old crap of shit!

    PROOF IT! :lol:

    Viva la LB!

  • Anti LB

    My friend take the Estebelle {{I wonder if i spell wrong}} Sray on my another friend face…he terus go toilet…cant stand nicely..wat a …omg!

  • Carol

    Honestly LB suck.

  • NancyC

    Wat a bull (shit) story!

    1st thing, why your fren spray DIRECTLY on ur another fren’s face? Was it perfume or other thing? Did ur LB fren read or know wat is the function of the product in the 1st place? If not DO NOT DEMONSTRATE IT! Wat on EARTH is ur fren thinking by spraying to the face?There are many types of products in LB.

    ESTEBEL has been in the market for 1833. You must be surprise if you dont know the history! There are lots of brands u may not heard of and screaming out of fear. Look at the packaging & u notice how small are you all on the beauty product knowledge. Again I mention, fragrances & perfume industry is a prestige market & only certain number of ppl would understand it clearly!

    The industry is very individual & by understanding the product u will start to appreciate it. Provence, France is the major contributor in farming essential plants & development of high quality fragrance.
    More info: http://www.dchl.com.sg/PdtSrv_EB_OriginsOfEBBeauty.asp

    Viva la LB!

  • LB_LB

    Dear Hyena Nancy,

    How many times do you want to embarass yourself? While you may well be straped in your diapers, jumping around in your cheerleader outfit, don’t forget to flush your numbskull in the toiletbowl today ok?

    YOu said.. “Do u felt that have been served?’ (Have u heard bout a proverb, A good language is not a language if nobody would understand)”

    Hahaha, another non-sensical thoughts of yours. The thing here is nobody understands your char-koay language here, and that please stop trying to amaze us with your stupidity. Yes, it’s stupidity, it has gone way past immaturity. Go take off your diapers and pee it on the floor to see your own reflection of a spastic freaking dumbass. You know how a dumbass looks like? Look no further because you’re the one! Don’t be too surprised because in LBs, there are many of such.

    Stop talking bullshit about your france and fragrance man. From farming to fragrance ar? hahaha! The Hong Kong officials have done a test and it’s indeed proven that LB fragrance have got bad side effects. It isn’t just proven in HK, but in many other regions as well. LB is a defect from France and that’s why they have changed the concept to network marketing with the hope of making money from other countries from fools like Nancy!

    SYN & LB to die!

  • LB_LB

    Dear Hyena Nancy,

    One thing i do admire you alot is that, after all the non-stop humiliation that i have inflicted on you, you never seem to fail to show up and further humiliate yourself. That’s something i call persevereance and that you really fit to be the dog of all dogs in LB. Go on begging and begging and conning and conning, soon u’ll have financial freedom! hahaha!

    LB & SYN to die!

  • http://lampebergerinfo.blogspot.com julie

    if only you people understand clearly about the company, products & marketing plan..sigh..pity you all..miss the chance of a great business..

  • LB_LB

    if only you LB people understand NOT to be so greedy and NOT to be a conman…sigh…pity you all LB people…miss the chance of being a civilised educated person…

  • Anti LB

    agree wat LBLB said…
    Julie..you are a succesfull person huh? if you are…may i know where is all your best friend of before you join LB? Did you lose your friends?
    I just heard a news about my friends… She know she will fail as a LB business, so she decided to give up in the 3rd month of joining LB..she paid 36k… and she want to return the money, but what have i heard was..her upline was her bestfriends.. and then, she told me that she dare not told her upline that she want to quit, so she decided to go to the office and claim back the money. But when she told the office, the news will spread up to her upline extreamly fast… so her upline called her not to quit, and told her that if she quit, she will feel sorry for her mom…and he(the upline) will lost 7k of the comission…But my friend don wan listen, cause she have many preasure after joining LB, then her upline stop contact her. Because of dont wan her to quit. My friend call her upline, but her upline told her she was at outstation and will be back at 30 January while my friends return money expired date was 29 JanuarY!…this case has not been settle yet till now! So… what does you guys(LB PPL) think? You think your 7k commision was more important than your best friend? and dont you think that their(your downline aka your best friend) 36k was not important? Huh? What kind of company is this? They said A but finnaly do the things was B… and another thing i heard was…if we success to get back the money..we wont get back 90% of them…beside, we will get back the money after 1 year…THIS WAS CRAP! 36K you guys can put inside the bank in 1 day…but return money took more than 1 year! WTF!
    Think lah~ Dont think your company was cool lah~ Earn money was cool lah~ and talk crap outside the world! There was damn many mlm company in this world… try searching the website… and you can see those other company name was so clean… but if you type “lampe berger” you can see lot of scam, anti lb stuff, SYN sucks, over few million ANTI LB” searched result!

    SO WHAT I SAID WAS!
    STAY AWAY FROM Lampe Berger MLM company but not others mlm company!

    LB & SYN! The suckest mlm Company in the World!

  • julie

    if you want to refund, you can get 100% refund in 10 days and 90% refund in 3 months. directly go to counter. if you choose to leave the business, disregard what your uplines say. its your money, your decision.

    my best friends are still with me because i never force them to do anything. SYN works in different approach, i have to say. but dont punish us all.

    my network is doing good. and we are happy and none of us are losing friends. because we do it the right way. in whatever you do, do it the right way and be honest. anyone out there, contact me at lampeberger2481@gmail.com if you have any questions. im not promoting you to enroll under me. no need. but ill help to clarify things.

    and if u hate SYN so much, if it helps, im not in their network.thank you.

  • Anti LB

    oh, nice job julie..You are honest at LB..i respect you.
    But i know that there are damn many ppl on SYN network out there cheats… and you said can get back 100% of refund in 10days? well, it is hard! Damn hard! even my fren only get back about 26k for the refund(she quit at the 3rd month)…i tought it was 90%… so for the 36k..we may take back 32k at least! but no! 26K oni! Where is the another6-7k?
    and another thing was, how long can she get back all her money?
    She paid 36k in 1 day..but cant get back in 1day?
    For LB: Bank in was easy, but refund was DAMN HARD!, sometimes, your upline will keep maintance your refund until ur 3rd month was over! Then we lost over 36k! and the upline earn 7k…
    btw, Steven Yeam earn 100k++ per month…but…what i know is..outside his world, many people hates him!

  • julie

    for refund process, you cannot fill in a form & directly get ur money back at the counter on the spot. yes, you invest in one day but refund takes longer. you buy a handphone in 5 minutes, but if you claim warranty, can u get in 5 min also?because they need to check first.

    the company has to check your record first. 1)how is your activity so far (if you have activities, they will deduct because you have made profit). 2) what were the items you purchased – are they still in good condition & re-sellable. this in standard procedure in any industry. 3)items on promotion are not refundable. if u buy promo item, you can get the same PV at cheaper price, but not refundable (stated on all promotion flyers). this is why my upline always make sure we buy refundable products when we invest as baron or count.4)there are 2 items strictly non-refundable, antibacterian n antiacarien oil 2 liter – now these items are not on sale anymore.
    if your upline is the problem, change your upline. we have a procedure on this. if you want to refund, directly go to counter. ignore your upline.its your choice.
    steven yeam is an arch duke, earns waayyy more than 100k a month, people hate him because there are SYN members who only works to get money cruelly, not thinking of others. maybe not all SYN members are like this, but i hear this a lot too. im glad im not in their network.
    so far my network is doing good – all due to clear understanding of the whole marketing plan & company rules & our uplines never take advantage, instead working things towards our benefit not theirs. im sorry to hear when people get disappointed in this good biz, please get help! email me at lampeberger2481@gmail.com. ill try to help where i can. if i cannot, ill try to get people to help you. i wont get a cent, but if i can help you, ill be more than happy.

  • Anti LB

    Haha..you cannot compare a maximum of 5k phone with a 36k thing!
    i buy a phone 5 minute but i wan claim back? What for? I chooce the phone mineself…i sure test before i bought it right?
    Let us Compare with a car..Kancil..36k..we can buy!
    Look! i bang my Kancil after i bought 2 and the half month. i can claim my insurance back inside 2 to 3 days!
    but LB? no! you can claim it back around…1month to 2..
    I am also Glad to hear you are not SYN julie! :D
    Keep it up your DCHL!
    anyway…whatever i want to said was, DCHL was still the hardest to archive and success in whole Malaysia Multi level Marketing COmpany

  • Anti LB

    oh, beside that, when we buy something such as handphone or car..the company did not tell us that we can claim our money back if we dont like…

  • LB_LB

    Whats going on man? i don’t care you’re from SYN or NO SYN, bottom line is, the whole idea of LB is a darn fast-money-pyramid scheme. IT’s a scam to make money fast. People join not because of the products, simply because of the darn system and how to rake in quick money. Sooner or later, it will die off. So earn as much as u can now. LB & SYN TO DIE!

  • julie

    we can argue for years if we want..i guess we dont see eye to eye on this matter. its alright.but for those LB members who have already joined and are facing problems, please email me at lampeberger2481@gmail.com. ill try to find a way to help, just like steady network helps me all this while. dun worry, i dont ask anything for return..thank you..bye bye everyone!

  • LB_LB

    there’s no free lunch in this world man. Get a life!
    Okay LB members, please call Julie for help and soon before you know it, you’ll end up being a victim. And Julie, stop pretending like you’re any better, your only sole objective is hoping that someone will throw in 40K to buy some damn position right? And don’t you worry, we won’t argue forever, the day LB dies, the world will be a better place and students especially will not be conned by unscrupulous people like YOU!

    LB & SYN TO DIE!

  • Anti LB

    Hell Yea!
    LB and SYN to Destroy! to Terminated! to Die!

  • tae

    i think the anti lampe berger malaysia is a sohai….
    wasting the time to talk abt the bullshit….
    sure he is a do gong zai…
    am i rite???anti lampe berger malaysia???
    go back to fuckkkkkkkkk yor mum lah!!!!!!!!!!

  • LB_LB

    hey faggot tae…

    don’t worry, you’re the only who thinks antilampberger is a sohai. Yes, you’re the only one.

    The rest of us find him a real civilised and honourable guy.

    Does that tell you something, tae?
    wow, i didn’t know LB members are taught to fuck their moms and oso tell others to fuck their moms. Superb man! bravo tae!
    While i understand that you fuck your mom every other day, that doesn’t mean others will ever do the same okay. Cos you’re the special one, you’re a LB member so it’s just right that you fuck your mom. So keep it up ok!

    The rest of us don’t do and ever think of such heinous act.

    hahaha! TAE THE BIGGEST RETARDED DUMBASS IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD! Another production of LB spastic fools.

    LB & SYN TO DIE!

  • NC

    Well Jack S LB_LB

    Still cant rest in pieces? No offense since u guys here r fighting with pointless bullets.. wasting ur own precious time in lame excuses of SYN fame?

    Check out The Star today IT PG 6, RedFm & SYN collaborate launched its radio broadcast. U make it sound stupid? U r the 1 who is not accepting in changes. MLM concept is not applicable in Malaysia? Even now business school are teaching MLM marketing!And 1 of the concept is similar with SYN method! A proven success marketing. Wat ever v doing here pro LB or rejecting LB, the company is growing regardless of ur flatulent claims!

    Where is ur complaints reports? If u don hav, lodge 1 now!
    http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?cpath=72_153&pub=e_aduan
    Do it if you feel this is right way to put an end to SYN. Not shout false claims here.

  • LB_LB

    Hi Spastic NC,

    Wow, you manage to dig yourself up from 6ft underground? haha!
    What happen to your impersonation of NancyC huh?
    You’re a real weirdo man. Get your gender straight lar at least.

    Don’t worry about the complaints. Darshan Singh of NCCC is overlooking this crap shit LB. Soon…real soon… it will be cloased off. So have fun while you still have alil time left.

    LB & SYN to die!

  • NC

    haha retarded LB_LB

    can u get ur s n head up straight? NC is just initial, Nancy is my name. At least I’m NOT HIDING in some name provoked as matter like ‘LB_LB’, It sounds like ‘I used to b in LB marketing yet I give up on my self yet I blame LB’ Does this sound like YOU?!!! FOOL!!!

    Wats wit the gender accuse? Aren’t you are worse? Nor male or female! Yet none in between!!! Retarded Jack S wit peanut hanging in between!

    Malaysia government have a few body handle this matters but how effective are their? Did u really lodge a report?
    NCCC complaint report
    http://nccc.org.my/index.php?option=com_contact&Itemid=3
    KPDN & HEP
    http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?action=pub&pub=1346
    Do it if you believe SYN & LB is fake!

    Viva la LB! Stop putting a stand on pointless forums! Stupid Retarded Numbskull, Ego, Self Pride, Pointless Blank Fool – Jacking his own S LB_LB

  • Anti LB

    Looks at LB ppl like TAE..Rude like hell..maybe we should give this article to THE STAR…and make it on the front page…how?
    NC. you said business school teaching mlm style like SYN? No! You are wrong! Every MLM marketing plan is almost the same! If you said we are wasting time..then what for you come here to waste ur time with us? Why dont you go continue sell your Lamb Burger on the street?
    You think THE STAR said SYN boost is very cool ah? i tell u..SY give The Star some money only the star publish it..if not how The Star will know you guys boost up? So dont think ur company was very great lah~ Only stupid fellow will joins such company..RM2345 forcing people to join..RM30k also force ppl to join..once their refund date expired..you just put them aside and pretend they are dead! You think people parent earn RM30k or people earn 30k easy ah? For you guys easy…yea..easy to said that: OH! I earn 100k per month~~~ but never prove it… or said Oh! I bought a BMW..and quit my job…to join this wonderfull thing…but actually..you guys bought the car 1st to prove to people PRETENDLY! I told you what…every mlm company in Malaysia was great..but for LB..many post of anti outside..Just go http://www.yahoo.com and search for “Lampe Berger” you will see..there was many crap around~

  • http://deleted LB-for-Losers

    haiyah NC & TAE, go balik kampung la!
    Maybe you should move from HLA to KAmpung la.
    City folks won’t get fooled already. You’ll have better luck at Kampung!
    haha! Real losers man you fellas.

  • NC

    haha retarded LB_LB

    can u get ur s n head up straight? NC is just initial, Nancy is my name. At least I’m NOT HIDING in some name provoked as matter like ‘LB_LB’, It sounds like ‘I used to b in LB marketing yet I give up on my self yet I blame LB’ Does this sound like YOU?!!! FOOL!!!

    Wats wit the gender accuse? Aren’t you are worse? Nor male or female! Yet none in between!!! Retarded Jack S wit peanut hanging in between!

    Malaysia government have a few body handle this matters but how effective are their? Did u really lodge a report? When Darshan Singh is will look into it? Where is ur ticket question? Show some prove S FOOL LB_LB. Talking in brainless idiotic sense. Ur are too straight to be a guy nor a lady if u get wat I mean but if u don’t get it then u r just no other like Tranxie (transsexual)

    NCCC complaint report
    http://nccc.org.my/index.php?option=com_contact&Itemid=3

    KPDN & HEP
    http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?action=pub&pub=1346

    Do it if you believe SYN & LB is fake!
    Btw, if u know media friend ask them in what circumstance will they feature such an event launching if is not a genuine company.

    Viva la LB! Stop putting a stand on pointless forums! Stupid Retarded Numbskull, Ego, Self Pride, Pointless Blank Fool – Jacking up u ur own S LB_LB

  • dania huda

    i m getting confius about this SYM..
    last night i have been invited to this SYM office…
    so many people…

  • LB_LB

    well dania, you go pasar malam also got alot of people you know.
    For whatever reason, please don’t join LB and prevent your friends from joining too. All their promises to you are FAKE! Remember this, what they said is just to con you to pay as much money as possible! Don’t let your money go down the drain! Don’t join!

    LB & SYN TO DIE!

  • Anti LB

    agree what LB_LB said! Please stay away..those guy that join will be drop inside a while..and the ppl who calls u guys join has drop deep inside and trying to pull his friend inside too

  • NC

    Anti LB, u r so certain bout yahoo will show negative side of LB? how naive u are with the technology in the world! hav u heard bout SEO? Search Engine Optimization? A moderator or web admin can fake a number to generate numerous of fake users to boost the hit rate of search engine so the ‘spider’ may find it list number 1 or 2 every day/week/hour. u believe in internet so much. y not read bout Jelita magazine & Malaysia Business? Ed Pinoud and Lampe Berger was featured there & named the most prestige company of French product in MLM establish in Malaysia!.

    Name me fake again, if u think Jelita Magazine & Malaysia Business will feature this business & product & marketing plan tat harms people? No!

    Dania Huda, my advice is look for magazine or talk to some reporters or u may email me for inquiry: nancychee88@yahoo.com. Do not try to email me harassment mails & dont just simply trust a site full of unnecessary facts yet there is no TRUTH in it!

    Just ask your self wat u really want.Ask ur self how successful you want to be.

  • LB_LB

    Dear Hyena Nancy Chee Yoke Ball,

    What antiLB said is nothing but the Truth. However, what you said is nothing but Lies. First of all, SEO is mainly a process to improve both volume and quality of traffic. Spider? You sure you know what that is ar? You’re confused with Spiderman issit? haha. SPider or better known as BOTs, Patches, or Packets to use for tracking purposes. Okay enough for your education.

    So so Chee Yoke Ball, are you trying to say articles in Google and articles you find from the NET are untrue? It’s different between a write up and an advertisement ok. LB advertised in JELITA issit? haha! In the net, all the testimonials and write ups are from industry expert proving that LB & SYN is indeed a scam to con people. NO doubt about that!

    LB & SYN TO DIE

    And Chee Yoke Ball, you keep saying that this SITE is full of ‘unnecessary facts’? hahaha! Yes you’re right, THEY ARE ALL FACTS! Why you call it unnecessary? Because all these facts will jeopardise LB & SYN. NO truth in this Site? If there’s no truth, why do you even bother trying so hard to defend LB & SYN? Ask yourself la!

    Your tricks and cons tactics will not work here and in the urban city anymore! Go try out Kampungs. You have better luck there!

    Dania, don’t get fooled and conned by them. They always say the same things such as… ” ask yourself what you want?” How successful you want? wanna drive bmw? Financial Freedom? 5 figures pay? Darn… all these are so steretype man! Stop conning people man you Nancy Chee Yoke Ball!

  • LB_LB

    Oh yah Nancy Chee Yoke Ball,

    Chinese New Year coming and no money right? NO wonder you wanna con Dania to join. Beware Dania. Look at the way she sells herself. So hard sell man, posting her personal email sumore. This is typical desperate hard sell fellow. Beware Dania. Don’t get conned by her! Thanks!

    LB & SYN TO DIE.

  • Anti LB

    Hell yea man..NancyChee was a crap!
    I think she bought her BMW before she does LB..and now still try pulling people for getting her money back..huhuT~T o0o
    We happy happy Gong xi Fatt Choi lah~ If join = this is your most suckest year~!!

  • NC

    Dear Jack S LB_LB with peanut in between,

    How certain of u on the ‘spider’ is just for tracking purposes? Did u involve in the development of the codes? No i dont think so! Check my name under Google’s co. U will find Internet Marketing Development Teams there. Too much comic for ur boy! Spiderman fan, Huh? Wat a laugh.

    Wat u said bout SEO is just 5% part of the 95% function of SEO. Stupid! There is more to it! U only mention such to improve like how? make it easy to find in search engine? Think again! If u did not optimize it to a sum of numbers will it be found? NO! Ppl pay for it to get listed in search engine or generate fake traffic aka like U.

    Thanks for the nickname guys! It really shows tat u guys have tat soft ball (single ball) in between rather than like a real man. True Balls!! LOL

  • NC

    Btw, there is nothing wrong to post emails as long u DO NOT credit cards numbers, Naive Swine’.. hard sell? Did I ‘sell’ anything to u? Think again! Where is the stuff I sell? Did u pay for it? Wat a definition of lame fool lik u would understand a help by just sharing infomation?

    Btw, where is the report u mention in NCCC would investigate?

  • LB_LB

    Dear Hyena Nancy Chee Yoke Ball,

    SEO is mainly a process to improve both volume and quality of traffic. Yes, this is the statement i made about SEO. AND with just a statement, do you think it covers all of SEO? Obviously it is not, and with you highlightng that it’s only 5% is like telling the whole world your dumb numbskull bloated head is square in shape. You get my drift or not?

    You’re one lost retarded spastic soul of which i have to reiterate over and over again. To assuage you with facts and education is just as good as pouring your shit and urine down your throat man. Again, if you haven’t already flushed your head in the toiletbowl, go and do so.

    Spider is mainly for tracking purposes. Yes that was what i said. Purposes? you understand p.u.r.p.o.s.e.s? it simply involves crawling a certain page, do any necessary extracts of links to other pages from it, and simply return the extracted information found on the particular page to be indexed different purposes and etc etc. And yes, this probably only explains another 5% of it simply because elaborating 100% of the meaning will only be futile because your intellectual skills is nothing better than a Monkey.
    (Sorry to all monkeys, as comparing Nancy Chee Yoke Ball’s brain with Monkeys’ brains is a embarassment to all the Monkeys.)

    And hey, you’re talking about peanut in between? hahaha. Let us all take some time off to laugh at this sad fella. The way you project your sarcastic remarks have failed so badly that you should just stuck your head into the elephant’s ass man. Oh what else ar? single ball? soft ball? you’re one hillarious little wanker. Oh i almost forgot, you couldn’t even get your gender straight. Ey, go get a therapy session man. LB & SYN must have killed all your braincells.

    LB & SYN to DIE!

  • LB_LB

    Dear Hyena Nancy Chee Yoke Ball,

    You’re not hard selling? Everybody can tell that if someone were to offer you a Marquis position in LB, you will happily and willingly strip naked and parade in front of HLA man. The way you portray youself, what i have just said is considered a compromise already. Oh just a reminder, even if you willing to strip it all off, just make sure you do it before dinner okay, am sure your other members wouldn’t want HLA filled with vormit stains. You’re one hard sell al cheapo Nancy Chee Yoke Ball!

    LB & SYN TO DIE!

    p/s: she has nothing to sell simply because the LB members are all abour conning people. It’s nothing about the products. It’s all about the money!

    LB & SYN TO DIE!

  • Bomber

    SYN people u all like shit, why u always being proud with ur duke and MQ cars,jewelery,bags,houses and etc ? it was’nt belong to you but u still talk up about those things, cuih i wanna split on ur faces, u life is not better than just a dog and u said u had a flexible time, financially freedom, happy live and etc, just go to hell leh

  • Anti LB

    agree BOMBER! agree LB_LB!
    NancyChee the fuking PussyShit!
    I think you also dont no what the hell youre talking about!
    How can you compare a Computer “Spider” to “Spiderman”?Come on lah~ you dont no what is that please juz shut the fuck up la..no people said about spiderman here but u are the one..i think u are the one tat still a kids…and give LB people cheated away…
    You guys(LB people) always act cool infront off people…but actually…you guys stay at home and eat like SAKAI..noe wat is SAKAI? DAMN Poor people! and what so rude do you guys was just like to scold poeple parent:”You think your parent can work how long to rare you? Your dad 1 month earn 3-4k only mah~ enuf eat meh? I 1 month earn RM10k leh!”

  • x SGN

    Steady Global Network or SYN both sucks & scams. Always after your money and ruin yr life!!! The product is good but the problem only the people involve with LB… I know 1 of the Duke and lots of Marquis got only not more than 3K per mth (told by DCHL staff) If you want to do biz just get involve in REAL biz.

  • LB_LB

    oh now all the myth about LB & SYN is exposed! They only earn 3K+… and that also they have to beg, cheat and con to meet those figures. What’s life having to do all such sinful activities? Ask yourself and don’t be fooled by these nuisance!

    Nancy Chee Yoke Ball, stop conning people with your artificial intellectual knowledge of which only leaves everyone in disgust!

    LB & SYN TO DIE! NANCY CHEE YOKE BALL CAN BALIK KAMPUNG!

  • Anti SYN

    Hey NC, How certain u know SYN is not a scam? My friend gav up the business & join me leh! He said others direct selling company is much better than others!

  • http://deleted LB-for-Losers

    NanCy Chee Yoke Ball? hahahaha!!!

    irregardless of your success or failure in LB, you’re one popular chee yoke ball now! hahahaha!!!!

    Good for you Nancy Chee!

  • babyGirl

    anyone knows where to get the imitation lamp like lamp berger cheaply? jack spero.. what imitation u mean? the lamp or the oil? which part of jalan pasar is it?

  • LB_LB

    insider source reveals that Nancy Chee is very popular among all the dukes in LB,in HLA. Cos apparently she wears very scantily to seduce others and sleeps around with the dukes to get position!

    Nancy chee yoke ball, you’re our HERO!

  • Max

    Dear all,

    I really don’t understand why to we need to blame each other. For those LB member, please behave yourself and this also apply to Anti LB. This site are made to discuss the issue and the way LB attract people to join their community. I fully agree the way they approach people need to be question. By the way, this is a strategic of their company. I do not know, how they brainwash their follower until the follower so trust them and approach their friend. Some may forget about their long year friendship just because their friend advise them forget about LB and back to study. I believe mostly LB member are in the range of 18-24 years old. Have you ask yourself, why you attracted into this job? I trust some LB member will act more politely and not to force people or say something to people that how rich you are. Nobody interested to know how wealthy you are and the way you get the money from. As your LB member friends, we will say Wah! so good so young got so much money. they never think that you will drag them to join the community. As a friend, stand out from the LB community will see the thing more clearly. I never said LB member cannot earn 5 figure salary in a month or drive a what so called BMW. Well, the repayment you can drag is up to 9 years, every month how much you think you need to pay the installment? let say step up loan for the first 2 years average RM 2500k? for those who pay 10 percent down payment. What about after 2 years? Can you guarantee that your business will become bigger? Don’t forget that your business involve multilevel, what about your downline not perform or quit? You may now have 100 downline and you might just sitting down there collect the commission earn by each downline. After few months, or few years the number of downline may drop. By that time, can you still able to maintain your car? your lifestyle? Since you may not have a good qualification since you pull out from study and fully concentrate on this job, what you gonna do next? Either you change to another company which also dealing with MLM and starting from bottom again or you quit MLM and get another job with some saving that you have. What if not saving at all? Don’t forget you have to spent alot just to tell your friends how good you are after joining the community. By that time, you may loss your job, your friends and maybe yourself!

    I am here just to analyse the potential of LB. Every job will be success for everyone, just depends how hardworking you are. Some may think LB is the fastest way to earn more and retired early. But how lasting is this job will be? If you see those higher rank driving a BMW and telling you that the job is easy, I will say they are lying. Nothing will come to you without a hard work. I can’t guarantee if you work hard you will be the most successful people on the community. but without a hard work, you won’t get a chance of success. Not to include those from a good background with support from family.

    LB is a oppurtunity for people to earn for living. By the way they earn need to be questioned. For those who being drag to the community and after all blame them is not correct. All is because of yourself, if you don’t want, no one can force you to join. So anti LB please stop blaming LB and try to pull their name down. First of all the decision is always at our side, nobody can force you to bring out a sum of cash to join in. No matter how good they say, and what they show you. Please think twice are you suitable for this job? what is the future? what you want to be?. I never join LB before but being pursue by few friend while I’m in college, now my age is 24 and working in oversea 2 years after I graduated.

    So guys, who still want to join LB, please do more analyse how reality the world will be. For those Anti LB, I understand the feeling, no point we argue each other with LB member, since they already brainwashed!

    I believe this forum are used to discuss the issue and how LB people pursue their friend to join and how the victim feeling and the strategic LB use to ask their member to join in and why their member so loyal!

    MLM exists long time ago, so I believe everyone will get a success from there. This is a good opputtunity for those without a good qualification but yet need to earn for living. But the thing is if they don’t pursue other people to join, they won’t get commission. So is up to you guys how you see the thing! Always look from Reality world instead of claiming how much you earn and what class of car you drove.

    Thank you, and sorry if I did talk something hurt here.

  • ema

    SYN member seems like to tell the same story. Like walking recording tape. :lol: you want to join any mlm business, go ahead. but never SYN. i’ve been cheated by my so-called best friend. they use dirty strategy to attract new P. live in hypocrisy. my upline even didn’t get his ROI yet, but act like he got a lot of money.such a great liar. i don’t need to tell the whole story that had happened. already mentioned by our friends LB_LB, anti lampeberger malaysia, and others.only people that have experiences with them know what is going behind this.To Mq ADANI, Mg Iesya, Mq Shahrul: *middle finger*.

    SYN to die. :!:

  • Moons

    Hey.. check this out!! there’s nothing wrong with MLM biz.. Even in other brands / products.. http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html

    Do some research lah.. What for the internet / websites that full of information without reading in it? Don’t judge book by it’s cover, k?

  • Moons

    Haloo!! Even we work in any organization of company, they are also using a PYRAMID SYSTEM. Don’t you realizing it? You as well working for your boss, and your boss work for your MD, and your MD working for the CEO.. Isn’t it PYRAMID as well?

    Ask your self lah, where are you in that PYRAMID Organization. :lol:

  • agian

    wah this topic very hangat!!! macam pisang goreng…i baru jer nak join as a francies invest 2500 satu bulan gaji i… macam mana aaaa take a risk lahhhhhhh

  • vinz

    Hey guys out there who think they know everything in the world…GO TO HELL…Please post comments using your brains…this business is for those who want to succeed in life….not slave for other people and earn a pitiful salary…so if you cant do it just shut up and dont steal other people’s dream…!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ema

    join SYN if u guys want to be succeed in your life. other jobs don’t promise you success. haha. :lol: :lol: also you’ll be a success cheater, live in hypocrisy. even if you are a degree holder/masters/PHd, u are not consider success, dude. think twice. :lol:

  • LB_LB

    Hi Faggot Vinz,

    what’s smoking you man? a decent job’s salary is called a pitiful salary? what about your LB job who cheats, begs and cons? What’s that called then? Dumb man you! no wonder you’re in LB. So those who wanna be part of such nuisance, pls join LB. You all will be regarded as nothing but the PEST to the society.

    Hey Ema, these LB people are stupid k. They don’t and will never understand your sarcasm. Don’t have to give face to such faggots, just spit right to their faces! hahaha!

    LB & SYN to DIE.

    VINZ, go back home and lock yourself in the closet lar!

  • LB_LB

    there again. Everybody pls have a look at what MOONS says. Typical same old thing about MLM Scheme everywhere. Sigghhh… iT has been well rebutted in all our previous postings. So Moon, it’s either you find some new to say, or just keep your mouth shut! Such a dumb mentality!

    LB & SYN to DIE. BYE MOON!

  • Anti LB

    Hey Vinz..you said we know everything outside the world? how bout you? You success edi? Havent then dont come here talk cock, do you have an so called BMW? SUCKS ASS!
    Like you are the one that know everything otuside the world but is in the suckest life inside LB
    LB and SYN to DIE!

  • ema

    SYN members, you are the slave for Steven Yeam and earn a pitiful salary by cheating other people’s money. kalau business ni bagus sgt, xdanya org nak condemn mcm ni la bangang! business2 lain, xda pula org maki2 mcm ni. Stupid Yeam Network will going to die soon. USM students are getting aware by these stupid people.they already know your stupid tactic to get them involved in this business.hahaha. :mrgreen: market dah kurang.

    i never say doing MLM business is wrong. but i say those SYN members are all liars.

  • Derrick2008

    This is a confession of a former LB Count SYN network.

    I joined LB as a Count, paying close to RM 2,345 plus the member registration fee to join as a Franchisee. Saddest part is my uncle was my upline (talk about being betrayed by your own relative!)

    After 2 weeks and loads of brain washing, my uncle came up with this idea to share the RM 36,000++ required to promote me to Count, so that he too will be a Count.

    I used my savings, while he swiped his charge card. All were rosie, motivation (or shall i say illusion) are sky high. As weeks passed, we began to see the cans of worms being opened. We found out that most of the members were rather poor even after months being around and that their accomplishments are mere exaggerations. Most of them barely make enough to make ends meet, even Marquis X. Evident as i was holding a good decent job and we decided to dine at Eden but most of the members refused and we ended up mostly at McDonalds and mamak stalls (Pandan Mamak, near Ambank).

    As the scam becomes more apparent because we found out that some of the Marquis actually shared a BMW 520i on payment, and they take turns to take the car out to continue their scam job. Existing or new member who do not believe me, please go and check the owner ship of the car, its most likely a shell company. My Marquis said this is apart of the setup. Me and my uncle decided to scram, until our worst nightmare came true.

    Apparently all our stocks purchased to be Count had their safety seal tampered and we cannot refund them, and that our receipt was never given to us by the upline. We CANNOT get our refund. And the uplines are becoming upset of our intentions to quit.

    We could not give a fuck, the true faces of these Sampah Masyarakat are obvious. They are 2 headed snakes (most of them treats well superficially, but in reality their personalities are obvious to all — just read the posts above by LB members).

    I managed to convince a lot of my friends to tell them to go fly kites. And also convinced some existing members to leave the scam. LB members may be making a lot of money, but their approach have caused uncountable hardship to a lot of people and destroyed friendships, careers and even futures (especially college students). My uncle is still recovering from his credit card debts.

    As for me, this lesson taught me to read up and learn personal finance and today i own 4 investment houses, and a good paying job in Singapore. Oh yeah, they say they will rock Singapore? Bullshit, LB have no presence here, but they do have a retail shop.

    For LB members who are in doubt, or who wishes to clarify my experience, or for those who feels like joining , do not hesitate to contact me at lekite@gmail.com.

    I vow to put an end to this cancer that is LB.

    Peace out,

    Derrick

  • Derrick2008

    There is an amazing pattern in existing lb members.

    Most of them are lowly educated and have very little knowledge about finance and business. Evidences are there in their postings.

    For every one LB member created, they would create 100 haters. And they claim the grow fast, but haters grow at 100 times their rate. As of present, everyone hates them (including the neutral).

    I hope those members reading this will wake up from their dreams and get a proper job. Losing friends, family and self dignity is not compensatable with the dirty money you make (if you make any, that is. Statistics showed that 99% of mlm people will not make money.)

  • http://rocky.com rocky

    LB??? fuck larrrrrr. go to hell with LB Lembu BABI LAMB BURGER. im sure open burger stall is better than selling this shit lamp

    LB member is all pukimak-sialzz when come into conning people. thing u so high class mehh? show ur scanned bank statement see how much u earn. burger seller earn more than you, babi pukima!!!!

  • http://www.krazl.com krazl

    Oh shit…

    I just make money online more than Lemberger marquis made per year!!

    Shit man….

    Just sit in front PC… while watch sufiah yusof in action…

    oh shit..no need con other people also…can even buy them nandos…

    how did I do that?

    http://www.krazl.com

  • mamamd

    allo..
    to all the anti lampe berger or DCHL..

  • Gio

    Lampeberger…

    Scam??
    Liar??
    Destroyer??
    MLM??
    Easy Money??
    Sellfish??
    Lazy??
    Ignorant??
    No Mercy??
    Relations Ends??

    Answer ——> Y.E.S

  • snow

    im a final year UM student. last year nearly all my close friend in my faculty join this mlm. but they dont even want to tell me what the name of that company(why they shut their mouth if the company is so damb bagus). then when i ask what company their joining, they just answered beauty line company and parfum. and if im interested i can go to their office(one of the common trick to bring new partner to office and hear the talk).
    after several time, my close friends ask me to follow them to office again(and close friend never gonna lie rite) i when to menara HLA without any preparation. (i dont even know what’s the name of the company, i usually surf the net to find info first). if only i surf and find this forum.:cry:
    my first impression to all the lb partner is good. very friendly. sweet talk. very profesional. wear blazer and suits. talking to me like im a very important person. appreciate it. warm welcome. i didnt think to much, in three days, i made my decision. i think its ok to pay rm 2345 juz to get a whole bunch of new friends who treat me warmly.
    but after signing the contract, i can feel the different. they keep pushing. they want me to commit. to commit so that i’ll invest more. my upline want me to commit so that he can achieve his target. he kept sending sms and pushing me. i hate when ppl pushing me. i be baron when i want to be baron. i be count when i want to be count. so for rite now im a baron. thats it.. nobody can push me.

  • http://www.hotmail.com Dove

    Hie there people.

    I really agree with what Max says.
    Being in MLM or any other form of vocation, the most important issue is the ethics that we should have.

    Personally I really don’t think it’s wrong to share things that you think is good with others, especially your loved ones.
    But we also have to consider whether if the person whom you want to share it with appreciates it or not, and we can’t force them to like something that they don’t, but we can change their perception. But the key here is -ethically-

    I do agree too, that certain members in LB can be rather unscrupulous to just meet their target, but not all are like that. It all just boils down to the personality of the person. You don’t really have to lose all friends to be in MLM. It’s all about doing it the right way.

    Because like in any job, what we look for is stability.
    In MLM too, like what Max says, we really have to work very hard.
    But we must also never forget our values and force any of our loved ones into the business, as we all work as a team and lose as one too.
    In anything, if sustainability is what you want, we have to have trust and team work.

    Most importantly is that we have to be aware, regardless of which industry we are in. There’s always a dark side.
    Ever heard of a famous Korean scientist who claimed that he cloned a human? Turned out he faked data. So you see, sometimes when people get desperate for achievements, they feel pressured, and especially those who have invested 30 over k..
    The pressure, some may say, serve as a motivation for us to work hard,
    yes. But please, work in an ethical way.

    Friends and family always comes first. Count your blessings, as money can never buy you eternal bliss.

    Just some lil’ thoughts of mine,

    one of the Counts
    frm SYN, DCHL.

    p/s: It’s really no point hating each other and throwing insults and profanities all over the forum.
    All of us are capable of making choices,
    and we should respect each other for having that capacity.

  • Speaker

    HI All,

    First of all i would like to wish all the best for u all out there. Sometimes we do make mistakes and sometime people misjudge us for what we doing. For who have read Rich dad poor dad, you will know what is the content all about. We in MLM dun cheat people but we care of their future. What u need is only work smart in this area. Many of the billionaires is coming from MLM, like Robert T.Kiyosaki. We dun ask you to sell your property to be rich, we dun ask you to chase people for money, what we need is just your effor and confidence to do. Prove it to yourself. Dun follow others people who are really look down their own ability. Every people have their own ability to do the best, is just only time that separate you from being success. Even we working at the company, u think the CEO is geting paid by the board of directors? No is by you all. CEO is using manpower to produce benefit for the company, so that the company can earn big money. Think about it! This is all about Human Business not animal business.

  • Gio

    Multilevel or “network” marketing plans are a way of selling goods or services through distributors. These plans typically promise that if you sign up as a distributor, you’ll receive commissions – for your sales and those of the people you recruit to become distributors. These recruits sometimes are referred to as your “downline.”

    Some multilevel marketing plans are legitimate. However, others are illegal pyramid schemes. In pyramids, commissions are based on the number of distributors recruited. Most of the product sales are made to these distributors – not to consumers in general. The underlying goods and services, which vary from vitamins to car leases, serve only to make the schemes look legitimate.

    Joining a pyramid is risky because the vast majority of participants lose money to pay for the rewards of a lucky few. Most people end up with nothing to show for their money except the expensive products or marketing materials they’re pressured to buy.

    If you’re thinking about joining what appears to be a legitimate multilevel marketing plan, take time to learn about the plan. What’s the company’s track record? What products does it sell? Does it sell products to the public-at-large? Does it have the evidence to back up the claims it makes about its product? Is the product competitively priced? Is it likely to appeal to a large customer base? How much is the investment to join the plan? Is there a minimum monthly sales commitment to earn a commission? Will you be required to recruit new distributors to earn your commission?

    Be skeptical if a distributor tells you that for the price of a “start-up kit” of inventory and sales literature – and sometimes a commitment to sell a specific amount of the product or service each month – you’ll be on the road to riches. Often consumers spend a lot of money to “build their business” by participating in training programs, buying sales leads or purchasing the products themselves. Too often, these purchases are all they ever see for their investments.

    STAY AWAY FROM MLM!!! ESPECIALLY LB!!!

  • http://deleted LB-for-Losers

    Hey Dove, the fact that your signature reveals that you’re of the counts already disgust me. If you mean what you’ve posted, you wouldn’t have bothered to post in this forum. Trying luck here huh? Get lost and stop cheating. Regardless of what you’ve said, you’re just another cheater. Get a real job for goodness sake!

  • NO WORRIES

    NOBODY FORCE U GUYS TO JOIN US…. DONT GET US WRONG. DONT JUDGE THE BOOK BY ITS COVER.

  • Gary

    After hearing from both sides of the tales, definitely can see there are ppl who supports and do not support LB. I’m from Melaka personally and have seen my seniors joining LB. They started our coming to us and sharing their thoughts on LB, all of them were big graduates with great analytical skills and they came from well to do family backgrounds too.

    They started out pretty fine, starting to build their networks, steven yeam even came to Melaka personally to give a speech in Equotorial Melaka. Definitely made a big hoo haa in Melaka for that particular month, even getting melaka’s press to publish in papers. Not long after, let’s say probably after about 6 months, each of them started purchasing BMWs, Mercedes, big cars that cost above RM150K. Many of the followers were impressed with their upline results. The catch is, these uplines didn’t need to join SYN or LB to purchase those cars but the downlines didn’t know that. They thought the uplines purchase those cars through LB. More and more ppl joined. Some folks aged of 45, manager of some manufacturing companies, resigned and decided to do full time because saw the results of their uplines. Threw away a month RM8000 paycheck to seek for a better future for their family.

    About a year later, these luxury cars started to disappear from Melaka. Oh yes btw they even opened a shop in Melaka Raya for LB training centre. Lasted about a year and the shop closed down and now is taken over by a small time cafe. These seniors of mine sold of their cars in other states, and said now they are going down to KL to start their network. One of them even had to borrow his gf’s car because didn’t have a car anymore. Their family were well to do, forked out the downpayment for their cars but eventually they couldn’t pay the loan and therefore were forced to sell the car. Now they are back to getting a job.

    I’m pretty glad they are able to get jobs again as they were below 30. What about the manager who was 45? Worked his ass up the career ladder without a degree but through hard work and experience. He is trying to get a job again but you know what? The companies now hired degree holders for less than RM2500 in Melaka to be able to do a better job than him. I don’t anti LB, but what has LB done to improve lives of others?

    A successful marketing plan starts with the roots of the business which is a product. If a product can’t sell, how well the marketing plan is, what is it going to happen? Its not to say the product is bad, but its way too expensive. Average malaysian earnings are about RM3000~RM5000. Is it possible to sustain the product monthly? Where is the money coming in to the organization later?

    I believe in MLM. Will believe in Amway or Elken coz their products are health or household products that are reasonable for the ppl. Aiming at niche market is big money, if it succeeds.

    Just my 2 cents advise & experience.

  • http://deleted LB-for-Losers

    hey “No Worries”… what are you smoking man? Don’t judge the book by its cover is best used on yourself and the other cheaters of your network. Deliberately dressed in blazers and somehow manage to buy a 3rd 4th recond beemer, and soon be taken back by the bank, it’s something which all of us shouldn’t take account to. Now, that’s don’t judge the book by its cover. Dumbass! Quit LB and start a real life!

    Gary, well said. That’s certainly worth more than 2 cents. Lets hope everyone especially those undergrads and freshies won’t get conned by such inhumane act.

    LB & SYN TO DIE.

  • outsider…

    helo to ev1 had post a blog here.
    i’m a outsider.
    but after i saw these all blog than wat had appear inside my mind is..
    i belive ev business has success and failure..no1 in the world dint fail b4..and less ppl wil blame themself when they failure..
    for those who aldy success! congratualation! and keep going!

    jus remember wat u had said, wat u had post, and wat u had talk bout others ppl good or bad tings..beware wat u said so tat u wont regret at the end..

  • http://www.myspace.com/gafie gafie

    (in bahasa pulak)
    oi..lu org yg xminat LB ni lu rugi beb!
    Betul wa ckp…lu setakat pencacai angkat taik mmg la lu xske..
    jgn terbwk2 tension angkat taik 2 kat sini…sian lu org..
    dh la wa dh nk angkat wa pnya fairlady ni..pancacai taik xleh naik keta wa..babai

  • Impian

    OOiii Gafie.. lu ingt dengan lu join LB nih lu boleh kekal kaya ke??? hahaha… gua nk tgk lu boleh bertahan bape lama… yg lu nk kesiankn org yg tk join LB nih apahal??/ diorg yg kesiankn lu sbb join.. hahaha… tu laa… lain kali.. lepas sekolah.. sambung blaja… ini tidak.. dok memikir mcm mana nk jadi kaya… last skali.. go for the easy money… untuk pengetahuan lu… dulu pon gua nyaris nk join mlm nih… tapi nasib baik gua tak join.. lu nk tahu tak gaji gua skrg bape… cecah 15k sebulan, ini bukan dari hasil gua join mlm.. kerja gua halal.. tapi makan tahun jgk.. modal gua cuma rm750 je starting lu tau tak… alhamdulillah skrg … hidup gua senang… dari pagi sampai ke awal pagi gua kerja… sorry laa gua memberbel panjang.. satu je gua nk btahu kat lu gafie.. dalam bisnez.. kalo nk jual barang or perkhidmatan memang boleh.. tapi kalo recuit org dh salah namanya… lu pegi laa mana2 pon.. apa yg gua cakap nih betul… diorg cuma nk tutup mata org lain dengan jual barang.. padahal tujuan asalnya, utk recruit… lu jgn jadi bodoh laa… benda nh laa sebenarnya yg org panggil skim cepat kaya… betul beb.. gua kesian tgk lu… bukan gua nk kurang ajar… tapi lu yg melebih sgt… pencacai taik konon… blah laa… igt nih… modal gua starting cuma rm750 je.. 2tahun yg lepas… gua cuma jual makanan je.. sekarang dengan modal sebanyak rm750 gua dulu tu.. gua dah ada 2 cyber cafe.. 2 kedai komputer.. 10 kedai makan.. (bukan kedai makan.. tapi jual makanan.. sorry wa tak leh btau sbb ada perjanjian) 1 carwash.. and 1 pasar mini.. banyak lagi job yg gua amik sbnrnya.. gaji gua sometimes cecah 20k.. normally 15k je laa… and… gua nih student.. diploma pon belom habis.. asal jb… hahaha… semoga yg lain pon boleh jadi mcm gua… just stay away from MLM.. think of somethng else rather than join this LB bullshit… Do not pursuit to get rich but pursuit to be succesfull..

  • lola

    hai..
    i joined LB nearly 2months ago..
    now i’m thinking of quitting..my upline drives me crazy..keep on pushing me 2 join events when i was sooo bz at my office..he kept on sms n calls me even when i was outstation!i joined syn with my bf..i guess it is not our rezki in this biz cos i hate my upline 4 pushing me so hard..he think we’re making excuses cos he never had any working experience..he doesnt know the life of working with other ppl n doesnt even know how a boss yelled 2 their staffs… i felt sorry 4 him sometimes but sorry 4 ourselves more cos believes in his sweet talks b4 joining d team..after we registered, he keep on pushing us..b4 that he sez it is our biz,flexible time..but what happened after that?he’s acting like he is our boss!!what happened to our flexible-time,own-biz concept?it really pissed me off…

  • http://www.cindai.net asura

    i hv new fren that join this bullshit ..

    i tried to tell her not to join but im quite to late. for muslim
    pls consider ur money. Make sure its rite to join this bullshit and
    enjoy ur investment return.

    pls check here > Direct Selling Association of Malaysia(DSAM)

  • ameen

    Hello,

    Good discussion. Hope it opened up people’s eyes regarding
    this LB.

    I’m posting this just to make sure this site stayed
    on top of Google top result.

    Keep it up guys!!

  • JB Guy

    Last week on friday and saturday, 2 friends had call me ask to lepak & ngeteh with him. the 1st one from SYN ask me to joint lepak at restourant here in BBU. I saw a lot of young people lepak there. Some of them drove BMW just ‘mundar mandir’ and lepak to show off “their succes”. Before my friend started to approach me with his ‘duplicated words’, i quickly guess and asked whether is he joint MLM and try to ask me to join his network. he say yes, then i make another guess whether it is a lampe berger or else. He told me that it is a lampe berger and i just say no with nice manner that im not interested with it.

    The 2nd friend (long lost friend)had call my phone number and i was very suprised. He said he want to meet me and i just say ok and we set the date on last Saturday. i went to a restourant that we both agree to met. when i arived there, i saw my friend chating with one guy – age around 40′s. we have a great conversation until my friend and the guy change the topic and talk about about thier business opportunity. it was a lampe berger – Steady Network – they talking about.

    What i can see from thier view is that they assumed that their business is good for every one and the whole malaysian should grab this opportunity and should change thier current career as certain LB member had done. Seems like DCHL is try to change all malaysian profession into networkers style. Cant u Imagine that all Malaysian people will quit thier current job just to joint SYN/Steady/DCHL?

    4 sure lambakan lampu burger akan belaku dimana-mana sahaja!!

  • LB_LB

    LB members are freaking morons!

  • ultralist

    i gt a new information …now lb looking for foreign worker to b lb member …if u nt belive can go the hl tower c…they r alot of them vfthout passport n permit…hl tower image break!!

  • lee

    who got oil of lampe berger ???
    i wan to buy it.
    reply to leeqin1022@yahoo.com

  • anne

    hi,
    i quit from LB few months ago and still own 2 bottle of Eucalyptus oil, lampe itself, a bottle of Estebel shower cream and a bottle of Estebel face wash.if you interested to buy any, i would be glad to sell it to you. those products are never been used and in good condition. any doubt, do not hesitate to contact me. i can attach to you the picture of the product if you want to.thanks.

    -anne- (skullcityskates666@yahoo.com)

  • secret admire

    ok, i ask 1, from where u got the comission exactly if other join LB under you, percentage from what are they buying, that’s mean you eating their money, don’t you shame on yourself for persuade them so they will join you? they hardly borrow there, borrow here, then “senang-senang” u eat their money. so what if other person tell you that they dont want to join you, do you still in contact with them but not regarding the business? i can tell that u won’t. where is the real value such as honesty and sicerity that had been told in yor seminar lo! if because of this business u lost your friend, your family, u show off your “success”, u are really short-minded. then i ask u, what the purpose of your life? a lot of people in malaysia needed money such as rumah anak yatim, rumah kebajikan orang-orang tua, do you donate it to them? well u sure donate it to china, vietnam, so you could be on the tv and paper. hey, only people who been raised in hardship knew better la.

  • deen

    where r u working now? are they give u all ur dreams?
    you are cursing them but they are still earning more than u ever dream of. If they aren’t good, why are they’ve been establish for more than 100 years! Why are they been approved by all over the world? why are they be the icon of France? since u have been working, are u achieved like more than 10k’s per month? impossible right? if u have been work for more than 15 years from normal eng to manager, will u achieved all ur dreams like bmw’s? people are cursing because they CAN’T have it. you are just JEALOUS with other people achievement because ur everyday live is the same. normal people just see bad things about other people achievement but noting happens to thier life too. but successfull people will find ways how they success. and yes, most billionaires in the world are crazy people which start with crazy thing, but poor people are normal people who just work for other people,find other people mistake and live with it.

    if u earn more than 10k’s per month from ur current job, will u share it with other people? with ur frens? will u try to invite them to work with ur company? think it urself.

    have u been there and listen it by urself of u just listen from other people? do like football? why do like football? for me, i dont like football coz i dont understand how it goes, and u may fanatic for it because u know exactly how it happen, who’s the best player, what’s the tactic to score. same goes to every business n this biz. they interested to join what u called ‘bullshit’ biz because they understand how they can earn from it. because they know who’s the best people. becasuse they know how to score. but the most important thing, if u watch football alone might not as great as u watch with frens. that’s in any biz, especially in thiz lb thing, they have the most BEST group support! so u a not do it alone,ur gf will have a lot of support until she succeed just like them. this is for REAL.

    the most important thing is urself. they just introduce u. if u dont want it’s okay, they stil go on and earning, but if u dont join, u r just normal people, nothing happen to u.so y r u cursing? because u think they get other people money? but so far i see,thousand of people have succeed in this biz. how many people succeed in their job by just cursing other people biz? for ur info. thousands of people cursing people who bloggin bullshit, but at the same time many people succeed in blogging and earning. so? is blogging bad or it’s the person who wrote bullshit bad? if there are people who fail doing lb, is the company bad or they themselves are fail? if u have been fired, is ur company bad or u urself dont do it right? u may blame they company, but why stil many people succeed?

    successful people see from positive part, poor people always see the failures.. =) :wink:

  • marquis adam bong.SRW

    first of all i kena thks upline saya marquis nic, di sini i want to make a short short share kepada malaysian…. dchl adalah sebuah company yang baik. its depent ur team, Team sangat important. donT joint SYN, if u want to play this money Game must join m team SGN the responsible team in malaysia ang sarawak. for male if u wish to be rich call me anytime. i can teach u how’s going to make u life different. now i be a handsone, cute n rich marquis in kuching. MARQUIS adam bong. mesti call saya yeh. if girls girls tiday ada ka ada bf pun boleh cari saya. i love my kerja n i love my SGN…. huuu Steady!!!!!!!!!! 0163315166 0163315166 0163315166 0163315166 01633151660163315166 0163315166 0163315166 0163315166 0163315166 0163315166 0163315166 00163315166 0163315166 0163315166 0163315166 163315166 contact me i tell u how to b kaya!! juma gunakan rm38000++ only….. kereta saya honda JAZZ 9100…… nama saya Marquis adam bong. u can cal me. steven lim bintulu. becouse i like to buka baju…. or jackson in KL, GAY GAY club n hotel. hehe bye bye

  • marquis adam bong.SRW

    halo everyone my name is Marquis adam bong…… :twisted: telefon saya 0163315166…. cuma invest 38000++ saya promise anda boleh kaya. jangan joint syn STEVEN YANG NOTHING…. team saya lagi best…. SYN TIPU ORANG….. SGN best…….. call 0163315166.

  • IPTA_student

    Dear IPTA students,

    I’m writing on behalf of the parents who wish to send their children to IPTA IS TO STUDY, & NOT DO LB :!:

    For your informations, I’d met with many SYN member and I’d been to the room of the member who INVESTED RM30,+++. You know what I see :?: The STUPID LAMPs are all around ! Let me ask you all, if Lampe Berger “REALLY REALLY GREAT, FANTASTIC, YES!”, then why this member couldn’t sell even one of his products?

    A businessman/woman will only sell products in the market if the products is really good. As a result, that member has to struggle, work part time for his life expenses.

    Tuan-tuan dan puan-puan sekalian,

    Parents kite kerje susah payah, simpan duit kat bank, EPF, SOKSO etc utk siape? Utk masa mrk tua nanti la, ataupun antar anak-anak ke IPTA. Tapi, manu tau pulak ada SCAM kat IPTA. SYN pulak ajar mrk balik utk TIPU DUIT SIMPANAN ayah/mak mrk.

    SAYA SUDAH BUAT BANYAK SIASATAN, dan ada member SYN ckp,”ORG MELAYU SIMPLE-MINDED PUNYA, SENANG NAK PANGGIL MRK JOIN…HEHEHE…”

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  • Ex-MLM member

    Hi, I’ve been approached by a friend lately to join LB. I did not join.

    The reason is very simple. The RM2345 high membership fee is non-refundable even though given some products in return. If I get friends to join but my friend did not make money, he will loss RM2345, moreover, he will curse me every time he see the products left over. Moreover I feel guilty too causing friend to loss RM2345. Do you call it friend?

    If I want to join a MLM company, I will only join a genuine honest MLM company that will give 100% refund upon resigning. If you work hard, every MLM company give you the same platform to excel (though some close shop later) . My serious advise, don’t hurt yourself, don’t hurt your friends, don’t join LB.

  • Setsuna F. seiei

    :arrow: allooo..mina-san

    hehehe…wat r u all think of this LB, is it ‘skim cepat kaya’ to u or wat???

  • NOkia

    hey u all sucker la.u all say LB cheat ppl scam ppl.do LB cheat u all money?if u dun get cheat pls shut up la.nia bu eh.if u r doing amway i also say amway cheat ppl u feel ok ah.pls respect other.

  • NOkia

    boz u all so stupid and staburn, we are hard to do.

  • IPTA_student

    :mrgreen: If SYN can make money, why these LB ppl hav time to debate & not go to cheat more money??? :mrgreen: LOL :lol:

    To those RM30K investor, whr u get ur invest money? Cheat ur parents, grandparents, etc…? :roll:

    Becareful, thr are “brash-washing machine” here :!:

    Uni/college students, don’t regret after u joined LB. U can’t get ur refund. They will keep delay and delay, especially when u invest RM30K :!:

    And nowadays LB ppls are unethical, joining blog and use rude words to pretend they are “SMART” (Becos they alway use “TEROWONG SMART”) :lol:

  • Setsuna F. Seiei

    As u know, i’m a former of celestial being r not from both of your side(LB n anti-LB)….. :wink:

    I’m always heard about throwing 30k into LB…hey don’t u guyz think first b4 invest does 30k…it’s your money!!!

    even if your upline ask u to invest 30k…’u still can say no, right???’…i repeat “it’s your money”, not their!!

    …even u guyz been force by does scam ppl, dont claim that all ppl in LB r the same…bcoz not all of them doing those same cheating/scam whatever(my English is not very well) on LB…but juz some of them who may not know how to make this biz well…hahahaha

  • NDS

    Hmmm,
    In the 1970′s the insurance industry stepped in Malaysia. Before laws and profesionalism was developed many ppl were cheated.
    Does that mean if an agent cheat you that the product is bad???
    Then why buy CAR insurance?

    Some dumbo above said only products that do not sell make it to MLM…

    I am sorry for his/her shallowness in business licensing. MLM company are distributing company. They get the rights of distribution. Duh!! I wonder how can ppl who resembles and empty can talk about business.

    Does anyone has facts as to what air management is all about? Do anyone have facts as to why LB is a scam?

    Do anyone of you know that when join any business in network marketing one has 90 days grace period?

    Hmm pitty of those whom are in realm of shallowness that they do not know all this.

    When you speak to a failure of coz he/she will tell you all the bad things.

    When you speak to person who succeeded he/she will sure tell you how they made it.

    Besides, LB is a product of France. It has been in the Market for more than 100years.

    No if the product is in the market for more than 100years and it is not good would it still exists?

    No body forces anybody to do anything in MLM. Those who work hard and belive they will succeed.

    Insurance is network marketing
    Sales grow better in network distribution

    For those who never left malaysia try to spend time going to overseas seeing how MLM is prefered to conventional business.

    Its the only way of bringing the product to customer. I guess you malaysians have plenty of time to spare that this is not a favour.

    Good luck the….

  • JJ

    Hi, i came accross this website, coz i wanna know what other ppl have to say abt Lampe Berger. Quite suprised to c that many people have blogs abt this issue.

    Refering to the above reply. Insurance is an important thing in life now and its essential. Some may even look at it as an investment for them in the long run. Its like a saving, but what’s the benefit of this LB product. Purifying air, but some may argue n say that they can get the same scent or mayb something not the same for very cheaper price. Even air conds are coming with air clener devices. U say its a 100 years product, but how sure are u that in that 100 year the product was not manufactured differently and added things which are not of traditional.

    Why is it in this MLM, a person has to find 5 people, why cant it b lowered to 3 people, since the company wants to help the downliners at least if a person gets 3 people the balance can be donated to the downliners.

    The product is not a need, like Amway or Cosway products, u buy them for ur everyday need, so u can purchase it every month or week or days(depending). But this product is expensive and when u want to buy refil, it cost u a lot. When some1 buys the product from u, its just a one time n then mayb they’ll need it in another say 5 months.(I dont know, just a guess)So the emphasis here is not the product but the recruitment.

    My cousins house always stinks and she bought this LB product n use it. Now her house does not stink anymore and she uses it only for a few hours. LB is prob good as air purifier, i do agree.but how far true is it that the products r still genuinely traditional.

    I think many people r angry/not happy/not satisfied because the way some of the people in LB urge their friends or relatives to join this MLM thing. I’ve been there n yes i have seen many students and fresh grads.

    I am not a pro or anti MLM, i think its a good concept, but it depends on the individual whether they prefer to start a business this way or the brick & mortar way. Brainwashing…depend on the individual, whether they CHOOSE to be brainwashed or not. If u r positively sure that u do not trust this concept then don join it. Dont do it just coz of ur friend. Its all up to an individuals CHOOISE.

    Take Care.

  • NDS

    Back again to the insurance thing. Insurance was never a necessity when it was introduced to Malaysia. But now almost every Malaysian has 1 form of insurance.

    Same thing goes for air management. It is not a necessity now as many do not understand the depth of the problem of we breathing bad air.

    Of course you can buy cheaper scent. But thats it. It remains a scent. A scent is not a purifier. TO purify the air you need anions.

    LB does exactly that. Besides that it kills bacteria. It has been scientifically proven.

    But i do agree about the attitude of some ppl doing MLM. They mis the whole point in building the network. But then again those who are cheated to join well the fault lies in them. If you can allow others to con you the one at fault is none other than you….

    At SYN i also see some good people whom genuinely do business. But there are also some who would do anything to get ppl to join and even cheating..

    Now this is a question of individuality. If the agent is bad, does not mean the system is bad.

  • anti lamp berger

    fuck you lamp berger. many people die bcoz of you.

  • NDS

    We feel sorry for you anti lamp berger. You have a low IQ we understand. You have proven it well.

  • http://www.sex.com HELLBOY II

    LB noob!!! :twisted:
    … Those sohai ppl only join LB or SYN
    They know hw to bull shit only… My fren have been join SYN for 4 yrs.. until nw he stil dun hv car license!!!! BULLSHIT!!! Last time he lan c me say he can buy BWM n celica within 10 months.. nw i ask him where is ur BMW… he ignore me… This is call “SOHIGH”!!!!

  • fabregas

    haloo…im not lb member, just want to share…..from my point of view, whoever survive in this business, i really respect, bcoz how they convince people to give 30,000 not 30rgt.i hv a friend who worked in a bank loan company, theres a few of his cust told him, they make a loan because they want to start business at lb.. unbelieveable..and most of them are students. i cant imagine how they convince this people, although i oso not agree with their system n this 30k, its kinda give me a motivation or the rite word is ‘challange’ for me to work harder and smarter with my job.

    if they can sell something really out of our mind, so can we, the different is we got the product, good product compare with the lamp.and dont hv to pay 30k.. so good luck to all of you.Bless you n have a great day in our lives. :razz: chiow

  • lb bullshit

    Tarikh: 06 Jun 2008

    Pengarah Urusan
    RZ Corporation Sdn Bhd

    Tuan,

    NOTIS NIAT PEMBATALAN LESEN JUALAN LANGSUNG NO AJL931127

    Dengan hormatnya saya merujuk kepada perkara di atas.

    Daripada maklumat dan aduan yang diterima, didapati bahawa sebahagian ahli syarikat mempromosi serta menjalankan pelan pemasaran yang berbentuk head-hunting dan pembelian lot/pangkat/pukal dan ianya merupakan salah satu daripada ciri2 skim piramid yang mana pemberian bonus adalah bukannya berdasarkan pembelian barang, tetapi atas dasar pencarian orang yang akan diminta untuk membuat perkara yang sama (repetition action).

    Berdasarkan maklumat yang dinyatakan diatas, adalah didapati bahawa syarikat tuan telah melanggar seksyen 7(1) akta jualan langsung 1993 yang menyebut bahawa “walau apa pun seksyen 6, tiada lesen boleh diberikan kepada seseorang yang berniat untuk menjalankan perniagaan jualan langsung yang melibatkan apa2 skim atau perkiraan baji penjualan atau pengedaran barang atau perkhimatan yang menurutnya orang itu, dengan mendapat suatu balasan memperoleh peluang untuk menerima suatu faedah wang yang tidak bergantung pada jumlah atau kuantiti barang atau perkhidmatan yang dijual atau diedarkan atau yang akan dijual atau diedarkan bagi maksud menjualnya semula tetapi yang diasaskan, pada apa-apa takat, pada dorongan yang di berikan, olehnye sendiri atau orang2 lain, supaya orang2 lain turut menyertai skim perkiraan sedemikian”

    Sehubung dengan itu, di bawah seksyen 8(1) akta jualan langsung 1993, pengawal jualan langsung boleh membatalkan sesuatu lesen yang diberikan di bawah seksyen 6 jika dia berpuas hati bahawa :-

    a. pemegang lesen itu telah gagal mematuhi apa2 obligasi yang dikenakan ke atasnya oleh atau dibawah akta ini atau peraturan2;

    b. pemegang lesen itu telah melanggar apa2 syarat yang dikenakan di bawah lesen itu, atau apa2 peruntukan lain lesen itu, atau apa2 peruntukan akta ini atau peraturan2, tanpa mengira bahawa tidak ada pendakwaan bagi kesalahan berkenaan dengan pelanggaran itu;

    c. pemegang lesen atau mana2 orang yang telah menjadi atau akan menjadi pengarah,pengurus,su tau pegawai serupa itu yag lain dalam pemegang lesen itu telah, sama ada berkaitan dengan pemohon bagi memberikan maklumat yang palsu, mngelirukan atau tak tepat kepada pengawal;

    d.kepentingan orang2 yang berurusan dengan pemegang lesen atau kepentingan pembeli2 terancam dengan ape cara sekalipun samada dengan cara pemegang lesen itu menjalankan atau bercadang hendak menjalankan perniagaan atau kerana apa2 sebab lain;

    e. pemegang lesen telah berhenti menjalankan mana2 satu atau lebih bidang perniagaan yang baginya ia dilesenkan;

    f. suatu kompromi atau perkiraan dengan pemiutang2 telah dibuat berkenaan dengan pemegang lesen itu;

    g. seorang penerima atau pengurus perniagaan pemegang lesen itu telah dilantik; atau

    h. milikan telah diambil, oleh atai pihak pemegang mana2 yang becangah gadaian, akan mana2 harta pemegang lesen itu yang terkandung dalam atau tertakluk kepada gadaikan itu.

    Oleh yang demikian, tuan adalah dengan ini diminta untuk memberi representasi bertulis kepada pengawal jualan langsung dalam tempoh 14 hari daripada tarikh surat ini sepertimana yang diperuntukan di bawah seksyen 11(1) akta jualan langsung.

    after a while…

    RZ Corporation Sdn Bhd 931127: License cancel on 31/07/08

    http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=216&Itemid=437

    :lol:

  • me_count

    buat semua partner2 lb kat dalam forum ni.
    aku pun partner gak…nak dkt setahun dah..
    and acc aku still active. tapi aku dah x aktif buat bisnes ni.. aku count.. why?
    aku setuju aper yang korang cakap…bisnes kiter mmg bagus sgt2.. btul la.. klu duk diam maner nak dapat hasil… dah nama pun bisnes kna la ader modal… org lain x nampak…
    tapi pernah tak korang pk aper yg buat org band sgt dengan bisnes ni? sebab org2 kat dalam lb..bukan bisnes.. product mmg bgs.. untuk org yang kater mahal, klu korang join n ikut sistem btul2 x mustahil akan dapat beli…
    tapi masalahnyer majoriti partner ni terlupa pasal agama. korang marah bile org luar kater kiter bongkak. tapi cube baca balik majoriti ayat-ayat partner dalam ni. rendah2kan org lain.. salah ker aper yg diorang ckp…
    aku suka bisnes ni tapi aku buat keputusan tarik diri sebab dah xsanggup nak rasa panas dalam ofis tu.. solat tah ke mana. yg perempuan smoke depan umum.. salam tangan.. cakap pun kdg2 kasar.. mmg la nak tunjuk spirit tapi mcm tu ke cara yang betul…
    ramai yg kater aku bodoh tarik diri sebab dah letak modal banyak. tapi pada aku apa gna aku kaya tapi awal-awal lagi aku dah nampak tempat dalam neraka.
    mmg la kubur kiter lain2. tapi aku dah xsanggup nak tanggung dosa bersama. dosa aku pun xtertanggung. semangat partner2 lb mmg kuat.. bgs… tapi apa salahnyer korang kejar akhirat samer..tiap kali waktu solat pegi solat jemaah.. kan tu lebih baik..org pun akan tertarik… bukan dgn cara meninggi diri..
    tiap kali pegi event aku dgr aper yg steven yim pesan xsama dgn aper yang partner2 buat. kdg2 dia pun marah… sdr x kiter sebnarnyer dah lari dr niat asal. kiter dah jadi org yg nak cpt kaya.. xpeduli hal lain.. agama, perasaan org…
    aper yg buat aku terkilan sgt… kawan baik aku yg ajak buat bisnes ni… masa mula2 tanya dia kater dah dpt balik modal, dah ramai downline… aku pun percaya sgt kat dia… bile dah join br tau habuk pun xde.. tapi aku xpnah marah die.. aku buat sebab aku yg nak buat.. tapi lamer2 aku jd xsedap sbb cr die n cara team yg xhirau agama ni buat aku byk ilang kwn… semua nak join tapi bile dtg ofis semua ilang sbb attitude. ader yg akan kater aku yg x pandai jg ni kan? xperla… tapi aku percaya setiap partner ada mslh ni tp xnak ngaku…
    tp aku akui xsumer partner mcm ni… ader gak yg baik.. diorang yg by bg aku smgt.. maybe aku akan aktif balik tapi bkn sekarang.
    utk yg nak jin, anda dialu2 kan.. walaupun saya cerita yg negatif tp ada kebaikan.. ramai lagi insan2 yg baik yg boleh tlg anda.. yg penting sebelum join, kuatkan semangat, kuatkan iman n sentiasa pgg pd agama..biar dapat sket2 dari dpt sekali byk tp xberkat..yg penting join sbb diri anda bukan kawan…saya pun baru cuba bisnes lain…
    amalkanla prinsip cuba sendiri br buat penilaian. mungkin saya xngam dgn lb tapi anda mungkin boleh. rezeki kita ALLAH je yg tau… jgn nilai sebelum btul2 alaminya.. jgn dgr ckp org lain atau saya.. tgk sendiri.
    kepada sesiapa yg marah atau terasa, kebenaran tu mmg menyakitkan…
    kepada yg dah berjaya tahniah.. bantulah rakan2 dgn ikhlas supaya rezeki kita sentiasa diberkati..

  • erin

    me_count,tahniah krn realize semua ni.yg plg penting,agama.duit xbleh bwk mati.mcm tu la yg sy rs msa mula2 join lb ni thn lps.sy quit sbb alasan mcm awak bg jugak.

  • Selina K

    I can feel your pain guys. Basically, this lampe berger biz is supposed to be a good biz, however, it’s become a training ground for con artists. Very dangerous place to be, never go to the office if invited in any circumstances. NEVER!!!

  • so neutral

    hello.. :smile:

    aku ada buat research…as far as i know lampe berger is just a product yang didistribute oleh DCHL together juga dgn product lain..ESTEBEL & Ed.Pinaud, jadi aku sgt kasian kat LB bila ada org anti dgn MLM @ DCHL..@ SYN @ SGN.. tapi maki hamun kat LB..aduhai..LB tu product… :cry:

    bagi aku, tidak semua org paham dgn MLM..tak paham bagaimana sistem ni berfungsi jadi utk paham (sebelum maki hamun),dgr dulu & pahamkan dulu dr org yg betul2 pakar dlm MLM..ada yg telah berjaya dlm MLM dan masih mempunyai nilai2 murni dlm diri dia..maksudnya bukan MLM yg tak elok tapi sesetengah org yg telah merosakkan imej MLM..tak adil kalau kita kutuk, maki hamun semua org hanya kerana segelintir org..mcm ada yg kata kat sini, tak dinafikan ada rotten apple dlm antara apples yg baik..jadi adalah baik utk kita juga menjaga hati mereka yg tidak bersalah dan menjlnkan business mereka dgn baik…

    ada yg kata MLM tipu org jadi bg yg rasa tak nak ditipu so jgnlah join & jgn maki hamun..kalau nak halang kwn atau sapa2 dr join mana2 MLM, terangkan dgn elok dgn dia…bg yg rasa MLM elok..boleh join & jgn maki hamun yg tak join…itu PILIHAN kita masing2..kita hormat satu sama lain..aman lah dunia..tak semestinya kita gunakan “freedom of speech” utk menjatuhkan org lain…

    kepada yg dah join MLM..buatlah dgn elok..hormat sistem anda..anda dah jumpa peluang jadi guna dgn elok..jgn sampai apa yg anda buat rosakkan imej MLM..be professional..org professional org dia mmg “professional”..

    :smile: excuse me..jgn pula kata aku ni pro MLM..aku neutral cos aku mmg ada tengok org yg berjaya krn MLM dr SYN, Elken etc..ada juga yg mmg gagal… bg aku itu mmg lumrah dlm mana2 business… mcm time kita study dulu..ada yg lulus..ada juga yg gagal..yg gagal kita tak boleh salahkan 100% dgn cikgu kan..ada byk faktor lain kenapa dia gagal..begitulah dgn business MLM ataupun conventional business yg lain..

    jadi inilah pandangan aku dlm hal MLM ni sebagai org yg neutral..
    bye..

  • so neutral

    seperkara lagi…psl modal…semua business mmg perlukan modal….ada yg tak perlu byk modal, ada yg perlu byk modal..bergantung dgn jenis business..

    tapi yg kita perlu pikirkan adalah mana kita nak dptkan modal… pinjaman dari bank? pinjaman dari keluarga? kawan-kawan?.. dan bagaimana nak dptkan modal tersebut… bagi aku…dari mana nak dapatkan modal tu tak penting.. tapi yang penting bagaimana nak dapatkan modal..kita nak menipu? berbohong? ataupun memberitahu dgn sejujurnya mengapa kita perlukan modal…

    maka itu, bercakap mengenai MLM..bg yg nak join MLM, bila nak pinjam duit utk modal tu..baik dr keluarga ataupun kawan-kawan..seeloknya cakaplah dengan sejujurnya…jgn tipu mrk..jgn paksa mrk…jadilah professional yg betul2 professional..

    lepas tu bila jemput sapa2 saja nak join tu, pleaselah jgn melampau sgt bila nak mempromosikan apa yg anda buat..cakaplah mengenai perkara yg betul..tak payahlah nak show off..tak semua org boleh terima especially jika ada yg show off dgn material yg dia dia dah dapat.. tak payah cakap “engkau takkan dpt mcm apa yg aku dpt jika engkau tak join aku..tak join sistem ni..etc..atau msh buat kerja engkau sekrg..”.. ingatlah..ada org suka bersederhana dlm byk hal..ada org sayang dgn kerja dia sekrg..so jagalah semua benda ni.. iya memang betul anda dah berjaya mencapai apa yg diingini tapi jgnlah melampau-lampau sampai org tak suka dengar.. nanti bila org tak suka dgr/tengok, anda cakap org cemburu…tak semua org cemburu tapi dia tak suka dgn cara anda..itu je..

    bagi yang masih belajar dan dah mula nak berjinak2 dlm industri ni.. ingatlah..jangan abaikan pelajaran..memang betul tak semestinya ijazah tu membolehkan anda dapat kerja yg sebagus yang anda impikan dengan pendapatan yg lumayan…tapi bagi saya education tu penting..iya, mmg ada yg cakap education tak penting..itu pandangan masing2..

    sekadar pandangan sebab saya bukan nya pro ataupun anti MLM..saya neutral….kalau ada yg setuju @ tak setuju atau ada apa nak kongsi pandangan dan sebagainya blh htr email dgn saya..you are welcome..

  • my thought

    hello so neutral..u r really neutral..i like ur comments selain comments yg lain tu jugak..tapi yg lain tu byk yg ckp tanpa berpikir….ur comments so neutral..suit ur name… :smile:

    kebetulan i ni tgh buat research psl MLM cos i was invited by a friend to join SYN..and kebetulan ternampak blog site ni..so i check la..

    well..lepas baca ur comment, i tauk apa nak buat..betul u cakap, its about choice..

    to tell u the truth, i dah tengok marketing plan SYN..tapi i tak join terus cos i ni msh buat pertimbangan..i juga dah beberapa kali ikut kawan tu pg opis DCHL/SYN..nak tengok sesuai tak dgn diri i.. lepas tu masa advisor to show i marketing plan dia i ni jenis yg byk soal (byk songeh my fren ckp.. :grin: ) i tanya 2001 mcm soalan..nampak mcm bodoh tapi tak kisahlah kan, yg penting apa yg i nak tauk dpt terjawab so taklah i blh cakap sesuka hati tanpa tahu yg fact…nasib baik advisor tu sabar punya org..kasian juga tengok dia tapi dia memang baik…byk kali dia minta i pikir dan buat pertimbangan sebelum memberi keputusan..

    so lepas baca comment u, i akan join SYN..oohhh please..by yg anti MLM/SYN, jgnlah pulak nak kutuk/maki hamun ckp i bodoh…tak elok tau.. i tau niat u baik tp bg i SYN bg i satu peluang and SYN sesuai dgn diri i.. lagipun i ni nak cari income lebih sikit..iyalah harga barang dah semakin naik jadi i tak nak duduk compaint sana sini tapi tak de buat apa2 utk menselesakan diri i dalam keadaan ekonomi skrg..dah dpt peluang SYN ni jd i ambik lah..i nak buka gerai burger boleh tapi dah byk org buat lagipun i taknaklah kacau org lain punya business…nak buat business lain, modal i terhad sangat so SYN ni sesuai dgn i…

    to partners SYN (wp i blm join..soon…esok…) ada yg ckp bila join ni akan lupa solat/gereja etc…hhmm…sama-sama kita ubahkan imej tu…luangkan masa utk keagamaan kita..lagipun rezeki datangnya dari Tuhan…duit bkn segalanya…

    to my soon to be upline..told u earlier..bila i join jgn push i lebih2.. kang i push u sampai masuk longkang… :grin: …i dah cakap awal2 i akan buat semampu yg i boleh ikut cara i cos i ada kerja..ada commitment lain.. i nak pegi dating..nak tengok wayang…shopping..and spend time dgn family i… i nak balancekan semua yg i buat…and i thak you cos tunjukkan peluang i dgn SYN…

    to so neutral..dah join SYN? kalau blm..bolehlah buat survey sendiri,k..kot berminat dgn SYN… :lol: apa pun i respect you so neutral…sound so professional with your simple words… :grin:

  • so neutral

    hi my thought..

    i bkn nak jadi “saint” tp cuma bagi pandangan dari sudut yg i paham lepas dengar apa org ckp..baca..tengok..kita ada 5 deria jadi gunakanlah sepenuhnya…

    :grin: one of these day i akan check SYN, iyalah kalau2 i berminat…actually i pun salute dgn mrk yg dah berjaya dlm MLM, tak kiralah SYN,Elken,Amway…mesti mrk byk berusaha utk mencapai apa yg mrk ada skrg…Kepada semua Network MArketer..COngratulations..

    cerita tipu menipu ni mmg biasa kita dgr dlm apa juga jenis business.. bergantung kpd kita mana nak letak SINCERITY, HONESTY and so forth…

    so bagi u yg dah nak join SYN..ingatlah janji awak…perbaiki imej yg dah tercemar bukan menambahkan pencemaran…hahaha…just kidding..i tauk u lebih bijak dr itu… wish u all the best & good luck.

    bg anti MLM/DCHL/SYN…i pun salute u all krn tetap dgn pendirian u all & i hrp dgn ada org mcm u all, dunia business akan lebih SINCERE, HONEST and so forth kerana ada golongan yang berfungsi sebagai “check & balance”…supaya network marketers/businessmen/women kat luar sedar tidak semua mrk buat adalah betul dan mrk akan memperbaiki apa yg tersilap… maka dgn itu takde lah yg terssinggung dan yang menyinggung… what a wonderful world.. :smile:

    :arrow: ps. mmg betul kita perlu buat sesuatu utk menselesakan diri kita dlm keadaan ekonomi sekrg

  • Siti_dr_UPM

    Utk sape-sape je yg jejak masuk ke blog ni, SELAMAT DATANG! :mrgreen:

    I cuma nak kate kalau LB tu BAGUS, kenapa korang klik ke laman blog ini ? :roll:

    Mesti korang nak tau sama ada LB tu tipu org ke tak kan? Kalau bagus kenape ada org benci sangat kat LB tu? Sampai ada antiLB, antiSYN webstite dll pulak?

    Kerje member-member LB ialah ajak korang pergi TENGOK PELUANG (sedap dengar!)

    Kerje Mar Kee-Mar Kee(sengaja letak) tu pulak ialah pastikan korang masuk terus SYN (sbb takut lepas korang balik nanti tukar fikiran pulak)

    Inilah fakta, utk org yg INNOCENT…Buatlah research dulu (n_n)

  • http://windysmooth.com/ so neutral

    mmm you do deserve more respect for sure.

  • http://www.chedet.com freeze

    With the economy downturn and heading for recession, many of them at LB will sure go bust. let’s wait & see. meanwhile, I’ll still be having my 5 figure sum salary, enjoying doing what I’m paid to do. I never regret NOT joining the scam despite much persuasion from friends and relatives. Looking back, non of them (NOT A SINGLE ONE) have made a living out of it.

  • my thought

    hello..semua..

    im a SYN member..registered awal bulan..enjoy dgn apa yg i dah dapat.. :lol:

    taklah buruk seburuk yg org cakap kat sini..takde nak menyesal….mb yg cakap2 byk kat sini dia blm pg tengok kot.. dia dgr dr org cerita yg dgr dr org cerita dr org cerita…..

    laa..please lah..jg ckp LB..LB tu just a product..LB tak jahat…kasian LB.. :cry:

  • Saf

    U’re such a typical chinese dickhead,check it.How can u get even a Ringgit in your hand if not working for it.Same thing in business,pity your parents to have a useless son with nothing at all.Take a knife and cut your dick,call me after u do that then I’ll come to pick it up with my 328i Bimmer that I bought with help from LB.

  • Jay

    Once upon a time, a friend called me up saying that he wanted to buy me dinner and asked me to bring another friend along. Without making too much of it, we agreed as i was quite hungry to be honest.

    En route to our original destination, my dear friend had to make a ‘quick’ stop at the DCHL HQ in kuching,and invited us to come up for a ‘little while’, while he grabbed some stuff.

    There we were greeted by another guy,dressed to kill in an Armani suit (whos authenticity is yet to be verified :) , while i stood there, wearing my favorite heavy metal band t-shirt and torn jeans, dazed ,confused and somewhat amused to think that our friend had actually cheated and set us up into thinking we were really going for dinner while he was the one actually feeding us to this ‘business seminar’ of sorts.

    First of all, first impressions do count. Which is why i guess they bothered to dress up all uber-formal even though they were all sweating through their thighs as the weather was uber-humid that night too. I did question his choice of attire that night and he responded by saying “To make us look more professional”.

    Hold on.

    First of all you have to cheat,lie and trap people in order to get them to hear what you have to say. THIS WAS THE FIRST IMPRESSION. MAJOR FAIL on that one.

    Secondly, you have to “LOOK MORE professional”? more than what? than you really are?

    At this point i was already annoyed and doubted the credibility of the ‘magic lamp’ and its minions.

    Anyway, i decided to stay on and listen about what the guy had to say. (Actually i had no choice as my friend was the one that drove that night). And what started out as a “quick” stop, became almost 2 hours of sales pitchings.

    As the coffee table briefing was about to start, i could feel like the other people in the room were giving me odd looks, probably due to the fact of my lack of a Versace uniform in my wardrobe.

    HOWEVER, the whole discrimination was NOT only caused by my lack of proper attire as i had first thought. The ‘speaker’ at our table finished off almost all of his sentences by translating it into a mashed up Bahasa Malaysia/Chinese local slang. This really ticked me off to the point where i just had to tell him that i could speak,understand and write English just as fluently or maybe even better than the next guy.

    Not to sound worse off but just because i wasnt the same race as he was doesnt mean i didnt recieve a Tadika education.

    The night went on with me trying my best to rebutt the whole concept of their SYN strategy, just to annoy the guy at first, but i still won some points along the way as some of my questions were never really given a straight answer.

    Now, after my whole experience with the magic lamp,i am very prejudiced and skeptical towards DCHL and their members.

    And i would like any pro DCHL members who posted comments here to tell me that its wrong for me to be prejudiced against you people AFTER the way you LIED and DECIEVED your way into getting my attention, and not to mention DISRESPECTED and DISCRIMINATED me in a number of ways? I dare you to move.

    I dont wear Prada’s or other monkey suits 24/7, I like EARNING my wage HONESTLY. And that shiny Red sports car will soon be more of a reality to me than most of you DCHL scammers will ever dream of. And i can proudly say that i earned it with my own blood,sweat and tears, while still having my dignity in tact.

  • Selina K

    Hey Jay, money is important yes, no choice lah, born to the world of materialism. Use it wisely. First impressions are definitely important. However not wearing a prada isn’t. At lampe berger, these people will tell you, you are not enough indirectly just because you don’t drive a bmw nor carry a coach branded bag. They would equate success to what you have e.g. car, brand etc. Just as long as you know who you are, life is actually very simple… we do not need more than advertisements of big dreams telling us who or what we are. Life is in abundance. It’s greedy people who will use talk of big dreams and success, show you big fat cars “ooh btw dun forget the fuel prices going up… THE WORLD IS RUNNING OUT ON FUEL! How are we responsible for it happenning? What do we want to teach our kids? What kind our world do we want to leave them with. Driving these big cars, does it really equate to success, (incidentally on leverage not cash)? Some points to ponder…

  • Demon8156

    Those who don’t understand what is MLM are those who gonna miss out a lot in their life!
    I’m joining it and making good money and helping others to make good money as well… i learned a lot of things whereby i couldn’t get to learn it at my working place, of course! What i can say it that go and understand first, u are making your own conclusion without actually do any investigation!
    If the products don’t speak out for the quality, where got so many stupid people who won’t think before buying and still keep buying after that?
    We are just sharing and whether u want it or not is your decision. People won’t be that stupid also to quit if the MLM company that they joined couldn’t secure them in any way, right?
    Go and read “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” and Donald Trump’s books, will help you very much in understanding what is MLM! Like what u said, don’t know whether the expensive cars they drive is rent or what, true also, then don’t believe them, but should believe those who already successful and established gua like Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump gua?
    Say no before trying and understanding, what an ignorance in life!
    You don’t like it, never mind, but don’t discriminate us, who at least own something better than you in life.
    Think of, if today money and time is not the problem, what kind of life do you want to live!
    Seeing is believing!

  • J

    Malaysian ppl always have a bad talk on the good things.That’s all i can say.Whatever it is..just keep in mind,please have a full understanding before doing a thing.

  • MLM networker

    I read through the arguement here n understand the problem. the problem here is not due to LB. the true fact is due to misunderstanding of MLM! MLM is a good concept n legal n proven business model! So pls understand first b4 giving comments! I’M MLM NETWORKER! choosing the best MLM company required 5 CRITERIAs to be successful as me now!

    1. An establish Company, international company, at least 20 yrs n above to show the stability n responsiility of that MLM company to their distributors. Hv own factory n science n R&D to develope a good quality products!A responsible FOUNDER counts for everything!

    2. Wide range of products. can b consumed by everyone including baby, pregnant woman, man, woman, elderly etc… Products r poven safe n effective! the uniqueness of the product!

    3. A fair n square marketing plan! joinin as member only cost u not more than RM100 n wif o without buyin any product. If requested to buy product first then can b member automatically, that is SCAM! if requested to fok up RM1000++, then their upline earn bonus frm joinin member instead of selling products! that is EVIL “head-hunting” marketing plan.

    4. Market. Product not limited by race, gender, age n so on. everyone can consume it safely!

    5. Education. A good n responsible MLM company will educate thier distributor n consummer wif a proven science n really helpin ppl n bring back their health!

    Trust me! I’m doing a company fulfilled all the criteria i mentioned above! I’m not criticising any MLM company here, each MLM company wil hav their own weakness n strong points…but to me…only those company which can fulfil above criteria then we can success more easily! good luck everyone…”A right choice is more important than working hard”

    If interested, leave ur email then i will contact U.

  • http://kosmo.com.my/kosmo/content.asp?y=2008&dt=1205&pub=Kosmo&sec=Negara&pg=ne_03.htm Vincent

    Dear all,

    lampe berger @ DCHL @ RZ Corporation is illegal now. Their direct sale licence has already expired on 28/11/2008 which mean their operation now is against the law and illegal. Please check at KPDN office website:
    http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my
    http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=215&Itemid=436

    Also, also note that publication at kosmo website which shown a copy of its direct sale licence which has already expired.

    http://kosmo.com.my/kosmo/content.asp?y=2008&dt=1205&pub=Kosmo&sec=Negara&pg=ne_03.htm

    Hence, it would be interesting to see the end of R Z Corporation after all of complaint of people to kementerian.

  • ameen harun

    Vincent, nice finds, however the links for Kosmo is broken.

    Here are the links to said article :

    http://www.kosmo.com.my/kosmo/arkib.asp?y=2008&dt=1205&pub=Kosmo&sec=Negara&pg=ne_03.htm

  • http://kosmo.com.my/kosmo/content.asp?y=2008&dt=1205&pub=Kosmo&sec=Negara&pg=ne_03.htm Vincent

    I have received confirmation from the kementerian that it is illegal for R Z Corporation to continue with its business.

    Below is his reply:

    Dear Sir,

    Section 4 (1) under The Direct Sales Act 1993 states that “Subject to sections 14 and 42, no person shall carry on any direct sales business unless it is a company incorporated under the Comapnies Act 1965 and holds a valid licence granted under section 6″

    Therefore, if the period had lapsed or xpired, that means the licence is not valid anymore. It is the same anology for the driving licence. People still drive although the licence had expired although it is illegal because they did not afraid until they get caught.

    Thanks

    xxxxxxx (name of the pegawai deleted)
    unit jualan langsung
    kpdn & hep
    03-88825969

  • http://funkadelic-ayu.blogspot.com ayu

    serious???
    m about to join d SYN!
    hahaha….
    x jadi la camni

  • http://watchyesmanonline.net Watch Yes Man Online

    Oh the drama!

  • cool gurlz

    :roll: depends on individual itself………
    thinks first b4 making any decision ok!
    nothings perfect in dis world right?
    anyway good luck for syn members…….. :razz:

  • PAkcik BAHAU

    pakcik nak share comment org lepas……….
    mungkin inu satu pengajaran buat semua supaya jgn ditipu. ini kenyataan dari ex marqui(maki)

    Jauhkan diri dari Steven Yeam Network (SYN)
    Satu teknik licik telah diperkenalkan untuk memerangkap anda masuk MLM nie. Pd mulanya sememangnya indah. Tapi tahukah anda sudah berapa ramai MARQUIS dalam Lampe Berger dh lari tinggalkan business ini. Terbaru adalah “SPEAKER TERHEBAT” untuk SYN sendiri. Kemana dia menghilang?? Semuanya gara-gara tak mahu downline menanggung bebanan hutang.
    Sememangnya bg anda yg baru dalam SYN ini anda akan dijanjikan dengan kemewahan2 yang anda impikan… memang betul ada yang boleh buat duit TETAPI RAMAI YANG TERLINGKUP. “AWAS” sy nasihatkan anda jauhkan diri dari MLM ini kerana taktik yang digunakan cukup licik. sy akan terangkan satu persatu:
    1. Apabila seseorang memperkenalkan anda kpd. business ini, anda adalah Prospek (P). Anda akan dibawa minum @ sembang2 ditelefon. Anda akan dipancing dengan ayat “Adalah.. kalau ko free nnti jumpa aku”.
    2. Semasa anda berbincang, sebenarnya anda sedang dikaji oleh “BRIDGE”
    (rakan anda @ org. yg perkenalkan business nie) mereka akan melengkapkan borang HD anda. Perbincangan biasanya akan berkisar kpd:
    -family background, hobbies, characteristic anda, impian anda, konsep MLM yg anda tahu, keadaan pekerjaan anda sekarang, keadaan kewangan anda sekarang…
    “SEMUA PERBINCANGAN INI DILAKUKAN SECARA SPONTAN TANPA ANDA SEDARI”
    3. Apabila anda bersetuju berjumpa dengan “Bridge” anda, mereka akan mengaturkan jalan untuk lentokkan anda. Borang HD anda TELAH DIEDARKAN KEPADA AHLI2 SYN yg berada disitu untuk merekan “SHARRING” dengan anda. Kononnya menganpa mereka buat business SYN nie..MEREKA AKAN MEMBAWA ANDA SHARRING DENGAN ORANG YG PALING HAMPIR PEKERJAANNYA @ PENGALAMANNYA DENGAN ANDA. Contohnya, sekiranya anda guru, mereka akan bawa anda untuk sharring dgn. guru.
    4.Kalau anda perhatikan partner2 lain sebenarnya sedang memerhatikan anda dari jauh. Setiap sorang akan sharring dengan anda sampai tengah malam..

    ini ada lagi sambungan nya sila baca teliti bagi tau u all SYN dan Y&E semuanya sama .product tetap minyak wangi tu dan macam lampu apa…
    sila baca org kampung bahau jgn kena tipu lagi oleh “cikgu ana” penipu besar melaka tu.kalau dah kena tipu cepat -cepat minta pulang duit ok.sebelum diut hangus ditelan. pakcik kesian semua org ni.

    5. Anda akan dibawa utk ABP- ADVISOR, BRIDGE, PROSPEK dimana mereka akan memanggil rakan mereka yang lebih senior untuk memberi penjelasan kepada anda.(mereka akan TIP-UP advisor anda, macam2lh dia ckp yg advisor ni powerlh, susah nk jumpalh, anda beruntunglh, dr kl lh & mcm2 lg), BRIDGE adalah rakan anda dan anda adalah PROSPEK (anak ikan yg akan digoreng mereka)..

    6.Advisor anda akan berpura2 tanyakan soalan pd anda (padahal mereka semua dh tau pasal anda melalui borang HD)- itulah kekuatannya.

    7.Advisor akan bercerita pungpang10x…(Anda perhatikan yg “BRIDGE” akan MENGIAKAN apa yg Advisor kata) mereka akan berkata “BETUL-BETUL-BETUL” dan menganggukkan kepala mereka tanda setuju..(sebenarnya itu hanyalah lakonan sahaja)

    8.Advisor akan terangkan business plan bermula dgn plan FRANCHAISE, BARON, COUNT.. untuk permulaan mereka akan perkenalkan anda dengan plan FRANCHAISE dimana untuk menjadi ahli bayaran dikenakan cuma serendah RM2345 sahaja.

    9.Selepas anda bersetuju menjadi ahli, perancangan ke-2 mereka adalah untuk buat speed plan untuk anda..(COUNT plan).. anda akan diminta melabur sebanyak RM36000 untuk mendapatkan 45000PV. disini ramai antara kita membuat LOAN kerana tertarik dengan cerita2 mereka. Rakan yg lain akan SHARRING sampai anda berminat.. anda akan rasa di-push…

    10. Selepas anda melabur, anda akan dpt produk yg bernilai rm45000, anda simpanlah stok tu dkt rumah anda kerana Lampe Berger nie dh tepu dkt Malaysia. Bridge anda sedikit demi sedikit akan menjauhkan diri dari anda, alasannya nk jaga partner baru…

    Memang benar byk event2 yg dibuat oleh SYN, tetapi hanya org2 didalam SYN sahaja yg tau mengapa ianya diadakan.. Sebenarya pelabur seperti anda terpaksa buat kerana bebanan hutang.. yg kaya DCHL…

    Anda perhatikan dh berapa ramai orang kluar masuk dlm lampe berger nie. tak ramai yg bertahan. MARQUIS pun terminate diri mereka sendiri. YG TERBARU TOP SYN SPEAKER.

    SY bukannya nk buat mulut ttg SYN nie kerana sy adalah seorang MARQUIS dan tak mahu anda semua tertipu dengan MLM nie..

  • PAkcik BAHAU

    hi,
    i hope that all of u here allowed pakcik to use bahasa to share something about Anti LB here coz pakcik no really good in inggeris.thanks.

    hi kawan-kawan pakcik kat sini bukannya nak komen banyak tapi pakcik nak jadikan ni renungan buat anak muda yg nak kaya cepat tanpa usaha. pakcik kat sini nak betulkan sikit maklumat. sekarang kumpulan LB yg aktif kat bahau dan melaka ialah kumpulan Y&W dan fokus dia org sekarang ialah market org kita (melayu) sendiri.

    pakcik memang sedar ada org yg tak senang hati dalam blog ni. tapi pakcik nak tanya sikit kat org yg nama anti hipokrik ni…

    1.apa yg syarikat tu buat dengan duit yg u org labur masuk tak kira 2k 3k 12k atau 30k?ada tak syarikat tu tunjukan laporan kewangan setiap tahun? kalau kita org labur contoh dalam saham amanah saham ke( misalnya ASN ASW2020) sudah rentu setiap tahun sia org akan hantar laporan kewangan untuk tunjukan kat kita org dari mana duit tu dah laburkan.samada beli share ke atau buat apa.

    2. kalau biz janji boleh berjaya kenapa upline yag kononnya gaji satu bulan 5, 6,7 angka atau berpuluh ribu atau jutawan bayar kat duit masuk 2 atau 3 ribu dulu, setelah dia orag dah berjaya( seperti yag dijanjikan ) sudah tentu dia org akan gaji besar macam marqi atau duke kan, masa tu belum terlambat bayar balik kan?. satu lagi kenapa dia org ni suruh prgi buat loan bank sampai berpuluh ribu lepas tu tak nak tolong . mana ada biz macam tu? ini kat satu penipuan.

    3. satu lagi pakcik nak tanya kenapa produk bodoh lampu bodoh(LB)ni tak ada kelulusan kementerian kesihatan malasyia? pandai syarikat tu gunakan produk yg org malaysia tak biasa guna dan tak boleh compaere kualitinya. syarikat ni ingat kita org kampung ni bodoh sgt. biasanya syarikat MLM edar produk kesihatan yg dapat kelulusan pihak K.SIHATANM. ini batulah terjamin dan kalau berlakunya pengyelewengan kita boleh ambil tindakan.tapi syarikat ni pandai pakai produk yg tak perlu kelulusan kementrian kesihatn sebab nak larikan sebuan pihak berkuasa dan nak jimat kos untuk hantaran dapatkan lesen kementerian kesihatan. satu lagi pakcik tak pasti adakah produk tu ada iktiraf HALAL oleh Jabatan Agama Islam tak sebab minyak wangi ( kandungan alkohol).

    pakcik di sini juga nak bagi tahu kat org -org kat BAHAU dan MELAKA ni jgn tertipu dgn kata-kata org LB ni. semuanya penipu. pakcik nak bagitau juga dengar kata kat melaka office dia org ni ada kat kedai baru di jalan besar hala ke jln semabok. office ada kat tingkat dua dan beersebelahan dengan restoran Nasi Berarni Gum atau sebelah kedai Perabot ANDA. so org melaka jgn kena tipu kalau ada org nak bawa kamu ke situ elakkan dan kalau boleh lapor polis senang jer.

    pakcik rasa kesian kat org kampung pakcik kat BAHAU yg rata -rata kena tipu degn kump Y&W melaka. dengar kata org umah upline dia org tu seorg cikgu dari melaka bernama PN YUZIANA atau dipanggil ANA dan seorg lagi cikgu kat SEK Kebangsaan Cheng tapi pakcik tak pasti namanya.

    pakcik naik marah kenapa cikgu-cikgu ni sanggup bantu org luar(bukan melayu) tipu duit org kita yg susah ni kat kampung. jgn ingat duit org kampung ni senang nak dapat, kenalah juga kerja siang malam cucuk tanam barulah ada hasil. cikgu ni tolonglah jgn tipu lagi duit org kampung susah ni, ajarlah anak murid kat sekolah tu betul-betul supaya jadi org pandai dan berguna. pakcik nasihat org LB ni hentikanlah tipu muslihat ni supaya tidak dibalasi oleh ilahi dgn balasan yag setimpal dgn duit yg telah ditipu.

  • Mampus Lampu Bodoh(LB)

    PETIKAN DARI KOSMO.05-12-2008

    Paksa ahli beli pangkat – Syarikat MLM beroperasi bagai labu peram untuk kaut untung segera

    PUTRAJAYA – Ghairah untuk mengaut keuntungan segera, sebuah syarikat jualan langsung sanggup menawarkan pembelian ‘pangkat’ kepada ahlinya dengan dijanjikan pendapatan lumayan.

    Lebih mengejutkan ialah ahli-ahlinya dari seluruh negara itu dipaksa membeli ‘pangkat’ mengikut status tertentu dan sering dipersalahkan jika gagal mendapatkannya setiap kali perjumpaan bulanan dilakukan.

    Sekiranya ahli berjanji membeli pangkat, tetapi gagal, individu terbabit akan dipaksa membeli pangkat lebih rendah dengan harga yang lebih murah.

    Pangkat paling rendah yang ditawarkan berharga RM9,000 dengan dijanjikan pendapatan RM1,000 hingga RM3,000 sebulan.

    Ahli juga ditawarkan pangkat dengan status lebih tinggi jika membayar RM150,000 dan kononnya akan memperoleh pendapatan RM20,000 hingga RM50,000 sebulan.

    Pangkat paling tinggi boleh dibeli dengan harga RM50 juta dan kononnya mendapat pendapatan tanpa had.

    Seorang mangsa yang hanya ingin dikenali sebagai Ismail mendakwa, beliau mengalami kerugian RM150,000 untuk membeli pangkat dan pada masa yang sama, mendapat stok minyak wangi aromaterapi dan produk kecantikan yang diimport.

    “Saya mula mengenali syarikat ini sejak Disember 2007, pada mulanya saya yakin dengan mereka, tetapi lama kelamaan apabila upline saya mula menekankan tentang pembelian pangkat setiap kali ada perjumpaan saya mula tidak sedap hati,” katanya ketika ditemui di Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna di sini semalam.

    Beliau yang juga seorang ahli perniagaan bertambah curiga apabila wujud organisasi lain yang menjalankan semua kegiatan pemasaran berbilang tingkat (MLM) dan bukan syarikat yang menjadi pemegang lesen.

  • http://bilecem.blogspot.com Genel kultur

    A lot of innocent peoples did assurance up and angle out rm30k after accepting a bright account of the business model. A lot lot of peoples run into problems because they accommodate 30k from added peoples like loans, ah continued or ancestors members.

  • girl

    so LB stil cheating now?
    hw can they survives until nw huh.

  • Christy

    I am a member of DCHL. Okie, calm down guys. I’m not trying to create any chaos here. What I’m going to say here is that this bunch of LB people or whatever you call em, are not fuckers or whatsoever. They are just doing their part and earning like what you guys have been doing. There is nothing wrong about choices that people make. It’s their rights. Besides, they are not cheaters. You’ve purchased the products at the moment you’ve gotten the license. I love the products very well. Please be reminded that there’s nothing wrong with the brand. If there’s anything ever offended you guys, it’s the people. In whichever business, risks are always there. It’s a matter of how strong is the will in you to continue in the business. It’s a journey, you see. Well, things might not be doing good to some of you guys. I’m sorry to hear that, but look, you can always ask or seek help from side lines. No worries at all :neutral:

    I don’t know what you think of others and so on, but if I were to know you guys earlier before things happen, I might be able to help out, you see. Okie, no offense ok. I know that this thread will be freaking long but I have the urge to type this out over here. This is something to share with you guys. I’ve been learning a lot from this business to be frank. My parents and friends objected at the first place you see. It’s the usual responses whenever it’s about MLM. The moment you start to a conversation regarding MLM and so on, anybody will just turn their back away. It’s perfectly normal to encounter this kinda thing. The reason why you guys are kinda mad about it is because of the initial ‘investment’ which is kinda high to some out there. Comparing to other MLM, it’s considered really high to you guys. But if course, it has got a higher payout instead. Wait wait. I don’t mean to offend anyone of you here. I know some just don’t believe in this kinda business, but the fact is, it really works ( perhaps to some of you, it doesn’t because the journey in this business needs to be understood). Despite all those, guess what? I’ve learnt much about life, family, networking and stuffs that actually make me realize things even better you see. I know some would just say that I’m a naive one because anyone would have learnt it out there without this business too. And perhaps to you guys, this is not even an excuse to defend this business. What I want to say here is, everyone has got different exposure in life. Some benefit in long run, some just don’t see it yet.

    Once again, please, don’t ever get offended with anything that I’ve said. I am just speaking my heart here. I don’t want to get anyone offended. I’m really sorry if you guys are still against my words and all. It’s a matter of choices. Don’t regret anything that you’ve done, because at the moment you did it, you were reluctant to do so. Just move on if you can’t take it all right :neutral:

    Cheers!~

  • anti LB_LB

    after all LB_LB is the champion!!! the champion among the losers…

  • anti LB_LB

    after all LB_LB is the champion!!!the champion among the losers…

    LB_LB TO DIE…….!!!!! :mad:

  • Between The Lucky One Who Just Rich

    Waow, i am the anti LB before this. Very very very anti LB. But after i dare myself to take a challenge to try involve in this company and i try do what this company ask for me. I trying hard and u know? I’m still not believe (like 50-50)… But, now! Gosh! After all what i’ve done, my sacrafice which for the first time just to investigate this thing… Now is turn to my life. And i’m so much happy. I can help my family and not asking them to give me $$$… Now, i gave them $$$ Thanks!

  • Budak Baru Join

    Salam and Good Evening to all,

    First of all, I have to admit I am a member of DCHL. Yes, I am a Franchise (After kena cuci to pay-up the 1.5k, now they are having so-call promotion). Like Pak Cik Bahau mentioned (since he’s the Marquis, some higher up ranked position), they are pressuring those newbies (which is me one of them) to get the 36k to become Count. From here, I will be referring alot to Pakcik Bahau’s post (malas la want to repeat).

    Honestly speaking I don’t mind the product (LB, Ed Pinaud, Estebel), nothing wrong with it (cuma Halal tak Halal je lah kot), but their system is the one that I have been doubting whether it is Halal or not, as what we Muslim refer to.

    First the registering as Franchise is 1.5k, ok fine. Then after that, have to put another 36k. And yes like Pakcik mentioned the current target is the Malays. I don’t like to admit it, but thats the truth. Majority that joined this so call biznez are Malays, you want proof? Currently their new gathering place is at Jalan Yap Kwan Seng, in front of AmBank, there is a mamak place, there around 8pm onwards, they will hang out there until dawn, or til the mamak halau them when it is closing. During daytime not much people, because their so call biznez time starts at 12pm. There you will see their program of brainwashing the innocents to join them.

    At first I thought join as a Franchise was nice bla bla bla. After few days later they started to show their “belang”, like pakcik mentioned, count plan, soon after the plan was explained, the baskets start to pester the newbies (Franchiser) to get the 36k. I don’t like to borrow (that includes the loan from bank), because I do not want to get into trouble and lost a friend because of this. I did mentioned to them I don’t want to, and want to start from scratch. As you guys can guess, no, they till persist me to get the 36k promising that I can payback within 6 months or earlier. If that is the case, I don’t see my side lines and upline are able to do that, they already join more than 6 months, still have yet to payback. Now I am keeping my distance from those baskets including this “Best Friend” of mine who brought me in. Somehow I felt regret joining them, and I don’t like this pestering-for-36k-to-become-count. I don’t feel comfortable every time they contact me and asked “Dah jadi Count belum?”.

    So, for those who are in doubt to join or not, I recommend you not to do so. Or for those who already joined, and in a journey (like Christy mentioned) to become Count, better stop your pursue, in this process so call journey you have to throw away your pride among your family/friends or any person that you want to borrow the 36k. And sometimes it may also gives negative effect, like losing friends, family/relatives keeping distance from you, etc. Trust me I know, I have been through this so call journey, I talked to my parents about it, and you know what, the result was so bad. I never felt so much pain, for letting my parents to cry because in some way I hurt them (for those DCHL members, please don’t say my parents tak faham and yet to hear the biz plan. I brought them to HLA to convince them, that time I was still naive, my parents know the real story and the Count plan. And the prefer me to start from scratch if I still insist want to continue *still naive*). But now, I feel regret, and every time they mentioned Count, I terasa sakitnya, of course those baskets they do not know any pain that I felt and find other alternative for me to get the 36k.

    Sigh… thats all I guess, lagi I recall it, lagi I rasa menyesal…

  • Lara

    Semua orang yang ikut LB ni x semuanya ada kemampuan yang sama dan ada kekuatan yang sama untuk bjaya. Based from diorang punya effort la~ Orang yang dah jd Duke(pngkat tertinggi untuk jwtn ni) skrng pun dulu pernah rasa susah untuk capai sampai ke tahap tu. Benda ni bukan senang2 apa. Benda ni ada journey yang perlukan ketabahan. That’s why journey dia susah. Sebab nak ajar orang bukan senang nak dptkan duit. That’s why dia mencecah 30K… Sebab pulangannya balik adalah berganda2 lagi berbaloi. Ada yang rasa kecewa? Quit dr Business ni? Cuz, diorang x dpt handle business ni. Cuz diorang x dpt handle rasa payah @ tekanan emosi diorang… Of cuz nak pinjam sana sini. But, just untuk sampai satu tahap untuk berjaya & dpt byr balik even lebih dari yg dipijam. Putus relationship dgn kwn? Dgn parents? Sebab x mampu handle stress & too emotional. Hey, to live in this world is already though. Be Strong! It’s simple. Kalo give up dgn business ni, of course akan rasa kecewa and asyik cakap yang bad thing je ttg LB. Tp, kalo keep up your trust with this LB until u success, U’ll know u’ll talk just about the good thing about the LB. Cmtu jg perkara lain kan… Mcm benda nak belajar buat magik juga. Kita cakap, mustahil. Tp, kenapa ada orang dapat buat? David Blaine lg ble bdiri atas menara berjam2? Because he keep trust for what he can do.
    Up to u. Dun want to believe it or believe it, yg pastinya LB is good for people who can trust LB, and can be poison who cannot trust LB. What i know is… as long i knew LB in my journey, LB know is my life backup besides now i can fullfill all my dreams because trust with LB give me back the great karma after hard journey that i get through~ Good Luck to people who involve in this SYN and don’t hear those all negative opinion.

  • http://www.konek.com konek

    Fuck LB

    The LB is fucking bullshit….babi pnye budak name adan…ko dtg pon dtg nek ex5 lg mau cite duit!!!!

  • PENING KEPALA

    TOLONG BAGI PANDANGAN SYN

  • ameen harun

    PENING KEPALA: Pandangan ? cuba baca balik comment kat atas tuh dan nilai sendiri, conclusion nyer banyak CONS (pun intended) dari PROS.

  • new11

    WEALTH FILE # 3:
    “Rich ppl are committed to being rich.
    Poor ppl want to be rich”

    WEALTH FILE # 7:
    “Rich ppl associate with positive,successfull ppl.
    Poor ppl associate with negative or unsuccessful ppl”
    -T. Harv Eker-

    cmon~ if u just sit down and do nothin waiting for the money to come to u. u aint got nuthin. what’s the point of bustin ur ass in the office everyday and got paid by ur employer with a ‘safe’ amount for ur lifestyle? u aint never got rich! u bunch of losers need to get out from ur comfort zone.
    if u dont like it just ignore the business. not condemning them.
    ppl who complain too much about their life are actually broke!poor!
    they dont motivate themselves to be successful

  • Hampir Masuk

    Hi….askum,saya alan….from KL….nak share pasal benda nie…

    kawan saya,samad (bukan nama sebenar)ajak saya masuk mlm syn nie sbb sayer kerja kerajaan, senang nk buat pinjaman rm30,000.00/=….saya dah cakap saya xnk masuk sbb saya xminat…tp dier suruh datg jugak dekat blkg wisma cosway,KL tue aper namer dier pon xingt…biler smpai saner,dier suruh sy duduk kt satu meja…then 3org upline dier datg brainwash saya smpai sy terpengaruh nk masuk then isi form borang ANGKASA dan PINJAMAN BANK RAKYAT…

    Esoknyer di opis, samad datg nk amik form tue…tp form tue belum signed lg oleh bos…tp sudah dicop…dier suruh saya sign sdr jer…(tindakan samad menyuruh saya sign sdr form tue mnyebabkan sy terpiker klau aku masuk mesti aku pn jadik xtentu hala mcm samad nie…)…tmbahan lg…kena buat cross gerentor….saya gerentor mamat yg sayer xkenal…mamat tue pulak jd gerentor saya…(klau mamat tue mati,saya tanggung beban hutang dier…)….

    so..saya tipu samad saya ckp bos saya meeting,xdpt sign pada hari tue…then saya try tanyer dier…”klau aku nak ajak org bukan kerja kjaan masuk syn,mcmaner diernk buat pinjaman?”…then dier jawab”kiter tnyer org tue dia ader x saudara mara yg kerja kjaan,klau ader…kiter buat pinjaman atas nama saudara dier….”…(kepala hotak dier buat pinajaman cara cmtue…cuber klau dier kerja kjaan…adik dier datg suruh dier buat pinjaman rm30k utk buat mlm,nk dier kasi??…)

    then dier balik….klau bos saya sign loan form tue…samad nie boleh process pinjaman tue hari tue jugak dier boleh keluarkn rm30,000 tu sbb dier ader org dalam BANK RAKYAT tue dan kiter didaftarkn jadi ahli SYN TANPA TENGOK DAN PEGANG DUIT RM30,000.00….sedar2 hangus rm30,000 dan anda xtau aper yg anda kena buat..

    so….esoknyer…saya call samad ckp sy xdpt nk masuk…pasal fikir hati kawan,hati sahabat….sayer bg alasan family sy xkasi masuk…samad tue kawan baik saya…tp smnjak dr haRi tue…bolek dikatakn kami nie dah hambar dah xboleh nk berborak mcm tue lg…(kerana duit,kawan pon boleh hilang…)

    sy xkata syn tipu atau xbetul…tp tatacara dgn client bukan dgn cara memaksa atau mempengaruh atau meminta kata putus on the spot…spatutnyer biar client tue ambil masa utk pikir…

    dan korg yg muda2 nie jgn fikir nk kaya dgn cara mudah jer…piker dulu boleh buat ker x??ataupon dari korg pinjam rm30k buat mlm…lebih baik korg buat duit muka beli rumah dan sewakan…sewa up lar kasi untung bulan2…untung dapat…asset pon ader…

  • Yee

    LB SUx! Even though i did not got cheated, but most of my friends willing to sell their properties and even family assets to join with RM30,000 after being “brain wash” by the bombastic talks conducted by LB. But once they have “wake up” its too late. . sigh. But it is no use to cry over split milk. Btw, we gonna be more alert in order to prevent being “used” or step into the “trap” aka scam. .

  • positive thinking

    halo semua… sy nak komen sikit la wpun sy bukan ahli lampe berger or whatsoever… lepas baca2 semua komen ni.. sy terfikirkan sesuatu.. kenapa diaorang semua nak blame lampeberger.. sdangkan banyak lagi mlm lain d luar yang x kurang hebatnya modal juga.. maybe modal kecil pulangan kecil, modal besar pulangan besar la.. itu pendapat sy.. n kepada orang lampe berger yang blame biz mereka sendiri, sy rasa korang cerminkan balik muka korang la… sy nak tanya 1 soalan. andaikata korang study kat universiti, korang cakap nak skor A tapi langsung xda usaha, malas n x buka buku, memanglah anda gagal… n ada juga orang yang gagal berhenti.. tp kenapa korang x salahkan universiti? sbb korang sedar yang korang pemalas. sama juga la dalam mana2 mlm.. bukan orang gagal, cuma give up atau blm bjaya.. xda orang yang senang dalam masa 1-2 bulan..bullshit la kalau ada. n pada orang yang mengaku bekas marquis tu, sori la, bukan sy nak kondem. tapi ini pendapat sy wpun sy orang luar n xtau sangat.pendapat sy, kalau dah berjaya dalam sst organisasi, kenapa tiba2 nak quit? n salahkan company sendiri pula tu.sy terfikirkan sesuatu kat sana, sy xkan tinggalkan organisasi sy kalau sy x buat salah. apalagi semasa sy dah jadi seorang marquis.coz sy ada view website http://www.dchl.com.my. n pesanan terakhir sy lah, kenapa nak blame mereka? kalau mereka salah, dah lama polis tangkap. tp sy dengar lame berger dah 9 tahun kat cni. so what? owh…baru sy terfikir… maybe orang yang kutuk2 x tentu pasal ni dengki kot…hehehehhe…whatever la.. orang malaysia, janganla terlalu sempit pemikiran…sy pikir2 balik, modal 30k tu maybe kedai makan kecil je yang blh dapat kot.. nak buka biz besar sendiri? silakan…n jangan pula nnt salahkan biz sendiri nnt kalau lingkup.. tu dah lumrah biz.. heheheh… ok, jangan simpan di hati kata2 ini, renung2kanlah dan selamat beramah… manner la ckit orang malaysia… :)

  • http://www.yahoo.com kicik

    hey…dun juz make a statement like a loser…lampe berger is a bullshit??im confious…mybe the person who said so is damn bullshit…!yeah….!2 sym team,close ur eyes n ears 4 this short thinking people…adios..n ol da best!

  • GaLin+ve

    MLM~~~??aku pnah reject bnda ni 3 tahun yg lepas..sbb apa..aku ingat benda ni mgayakan org atas..then aku sambung study..n yg paling best..pada semester ke 3..aku jumpa lg benda yg sama..n aku msh reject..yala..sapa mahu buat biz “cari org”..surirumah jer yg blh buat..itu kata org lah..then..yg pling best lg..aku nampak..ramai budak2 grad dgn bjaya..tapi..tak dapat keja..ramai budak2 yg tkial2 mbawa diri n mganggur..apakah??n aku mmg agak ktakutan utk mjd salah satu dri mereka..pada semester trakhir dlm pgajian..aku dibawa lg ke tpt yg sama..n dtunjuk pluang..aku tbuka hati..then..aku blik buka internet..apa lg byk btl kutukan..masa tu..aku mmg sgt marah..n yg pling bestnyer..at last aku jd partner..knapa??sbb komen n kutukan ni jugalah yg mgalakkan lbh ramai org join..mana bis yg tak cari org..??tauke jual baja ayam pun yg dtg beli baja..manusia..bukan ayam..tauke jual makanan pun cari org..sbb yg dtg makan tu org..bukan anjing or kucing..org buka klinik haiwan pun yg dtg bawa haiwan manusia juga..sgt ajaib kalau anjing or kucing dtg sdiri ke klinik..universiti dibuka pun utk org bukan lembu yg dtg belajar..yg dtg belajar pun akan bayar yuran apa suma..kan ke duit org juga tu..aduhai..apa pula tanya org tak rasa bsalah ke makan duit org..apa slama ni tauke yg kaya raya bukan untung duit org juga ke??aku rasa bgus lg MLM dri makan rasuah..mgugut..mrompak..n ambil kantau dri org..wahai pbaca sekalian..mana ada benda percuma didunia ni??30K??buatlah rumah 30k utk disewa..tgok..jd ke x??kalau jd..bguslah..kalau takda dapur or bilik..or tandas..wat to do lah~~”brainwash”??sapa yg brainwash sapa??mmg myedihkan lah..kalau da tak mauk..cakap jer tak mauk..tak plu lah mauk tulis yg bukan2 kat sini..org just tunjuk peluang..kalau pun gf anda ke..bf anda ke dibawa buat biz..jgn pulak mhalang..yalahkan..takut2 pulak anda yg tadah tangan dgn mereka..tak mok join pun just support la..putus hubungan..putus psaudaraan tu suma tak blh salahkan sesapa..kalau da ditakdirkan akan putus..tak plu buat biz pun akan putus juga..jgnlah pulak marah dgn kata2 aku ni..sbb aku da pnah rasa suma ni..just utk pgetahuaan anda suma jer..happy2lah..tgok partner SYN suma happy2..sbb ada leader yg hebat n humble..kalau anda marah pun..buat lah biz juga..blh juga btanding biz sapa pling best n blh buat dgn happy2..bukan btanding sapa untung byklah..sbb anda suma kan tak mauk buat biz yg “MAKAN DUIT ORG”…sapa marah mmg loser..n tak dapat trima kyataan..hehe-KL-

  • ivy

    memang biadap semua member2 lampe berger ni?????INGATLAH TUHAN TU MAHA MENGETAHUI&MAHA BERKUASA…………

  • biru

    kpd yg baru nk mncuba2 nk bt bsns nie…janla brlagak sgt,ckp pun mcm dh xingt Tuhan…

  • http://www.yahoo.com kicik

    wei…ssh la mnusia x phm bhsa tok..
    boh d lalek org anti lamp berger..
    short thinker nang camya..
    bila mk maju..??kpd yg x tauk pa2 ya,beter shut ur mouth..
    lamp berger x pnh bulak org..plek na..

  • pearl

    sbnrnya LB ni aku Satu family dah join lar.. first aku dtg ingt nk tgk je tp kene cuci otak da..mmg mcm kene pukau. masa tu rasa mcm bkn MLM tp mcm international bisnes. lg dia suruh kita pakai kot, letak jawatan wat full time. aku invest 36.000 lar beli pangkat. masa tu dah kabur mata nk kaya cepat. aku sesal gak wat kptsn terburu-buru ni. lepas bbrp bln bru aku buka mata. yg markis2 diorg pun bkn untung sgt pun. bole kira ngan jari la yg untung tu. tp nk wat cmne diorg ckp pun dah degar2. x kan nk putus asa. lg dah 3@4 thn kat situ x kan nak mkn gaji blk pulak. tp aku x salahkn company la.. marketing plan ok. klu ikutkan company x bg kita beli pngkat. sbb tu bila kita nk beli pngkt. datuk nenek,pakcik kene ad kt situ sign. siapa nk wat bisnes ni bole tp kene hati-hati, jangan kene cuci otak. rasional skit

  • D’r

    prdk lb ni memang ok sangat,cuma join lb ni boleh mengubah seseorang mudah lupa diri,lupa Tuhan dn lupa segala2nya…cuba kita renungkan kembali dlm diri kita,apalh gunanya kesenangan hdup kita ats kesusahan n kesedihan org lain,nescaya hidup kita tk akn tentrm smpi mati!!!2 blm lg hutng2 yg kta yg mungkin tak akn terbayar…kpd kekwn2 yang baru nk join,fkr2kan lah krna sy sndiri mengalaminya n semuanya ats kehendak diri sy sendiri….

  • solong

    mmg bodoh sape yg msk lb ni psl nk kaye cpat lastly menganga psl x balik modal putus kawan kalo nk kaye cpat usaha buat bisnes bkn cari org dan memaksa rela mereka masuk lb hentikan kerja bodoh ni….

  • cokolalat

    y r u guys so stupid??? they dont believe LB let them be la..fuck it la…all u have to do is prove it to them that LB’s true n good for u n them…if u guys have time 2 argue about this thing im sure u got time 2 think how 2 run the business…so stop bullshittin around….u guys r fucking stupid…

  • solong

    bullshit lah what dcl taking people money show me how many person get average 50000 per month or be the millionaire except ceo of SYM AND SEKUTU DIAORANG

  • Tu la

    haih korang ni..rileks k…hidup masih lagi diteruskan…

    LB tak salah…mlm tak salah…aku ni ari ari duduk rumah dapat duit jugak…tak banyak la..sebulan tu kira dalam rm3000 dan masih meningkat dari bulan ke bulan…

    lebih baik daripada aku naik bas ari ari kerja kerani gaji rm900 jer…kerja kuat macam mana pun macam tu jugak…tapi kat mlm lain hasilnya….

    pada yg dah gaji tinggi tu, korang best la buli bawahan macam kita ni..korang ok la dah kaya…aku pulak macam mana…ari ari sembahyang lagi rajin dari korang yg kaya ni..tak ke mana jugak

    jadi aku masuk la mlm…peluangnya sama jer…orang cacat ke..orang bodoh macam aku ke…boleh sekuang kuangnya tingkatkan sikit taraf hidup..900 ke 3000 dalam masa 6 bulan..ok la tu..dalam 5 tahun harap harap cecah 10000 la kot…

    geng geng sekalian…dalam komen komen byk ni…yg kutuk tu i syak gaji dah 5k sebulan boleh la diolang kutuk..hidup diolang selesa dah..mak bapak pun kaya kot…

    i ingat tuhan punya manusia..tapi kan tuhan boleh takat bagi tanah jer…hasil tanaman tu usaha kita jugak..kalau tak sepuluh tahun la pandang kat tanah tu..rumput jer tumbuh…harapkan tuhan takat rumput jer la…kita kena usaha..baru ada buah…tak salahkan tuhan..slahkan manusia yg hanya duduk tunggu buah jer..bila tanah orang lain ada buah..dia kutuk pulak..mana boleh macam ni kan..

    geng geng gaji tak cecah seribu…kalau simpan duit n ari ari hidup sengsara…korang ikut la nasihat orang yg dah gaji tinggi yg kutuk mlm pastu apapun jgn buat…seksa la diri ko tu..

    pasal agama dan materialism hanya dua care jer nak opinion kat sini…

    satu tuhan nak kita sebagai umat manusia kena sentiasa memajukan diri…

    atau agama tu satu-satunya media di mana ia dapat mengelakkan orang golongan miskin daripada memboikot/membunuh orang kaya…pastu tu dah kena tipu dgn khir tu sampai banglo dia berbilion…hah yg kutuk LB tu mesti sokong khir tu..orang kaya kan..jaga bontot sesame diri…

    yg kaya akan terus kaya dan yg miskin akan terus miskin…pilih la jalan anda…klu anda malas dan pengecut walaupun keturunan hang tuah..haih buat malu jer…tak nak tingkatkan taraf hidup anda…kena la pikir anak isteri jugak…budi mak ayah bila nak bayar…harapkan kerja jer mana cukup..lain la gaji dah tinggi pastu datang sini kutuk mlm…gaji diolang best la…gaji aku 900 jer tambah overtime n part time..tak cecah 2500 pun..skg melalui mlm, ari ari duduk rumah pun 3000…pastu i pun tak la duduk rumah…budi mlm kena balas jugak…umat manusia lain kena tolong jugak…

    jadi minta maaf la kalau tersinggung tu..dan yg nak kutuk komen i ni pelbagai words yg haram dan jugak dah KAYA…i alu alu kan..tapi geng geng macam aku yg tak pernah cecah seribu..i minta anda pikir pikir dulu..

  • pearl

    kepada ‘tu la’. i percaya kalau you kata you dapat 3000 sebulan dan semakin meningkat. tp i x percaya bila you ckp duduk rumah hari-hari. maaf lah beb tak ada benda dalam dunia ni yang kita tak perlu usaha dan tak perlu berkorban untuk dapatkannya. bisnes ni bukan skim cepat kaya atau pelaburan saham.
    ayat you dalam komen tu i dapat agak you sebenarnya baru je join dan baru je dapat untung. jadi you masih panas lagi. i percaya kalau you dapat kekalkan ‘api’ you macam ni berterusan i gerenti you mesti kaya punya lah. sebab bisnes ni memang boleh buat duit samaada kita sanggup korban atau tak, itu je point dia.
    lagi satu tak payah lah you rajin sangat bukak forum ni dan tengok berita-berita negatif macam ni. umpama bunuh diri je.
    tak setuju dengan apa yang i kata? kami dulu pun macam you juga. saya setuju dalam komen2 ni memang ada orang yang guna emosi tulis, iyelah ada yang tak pernah join tapi dengar cakap orang, ada yang takut, ada yang dah join tapi gagal( sape yang akan salahkan diri sendiri bila gagal?)
    so lepas ni jangan lah you duduk rumah hari-hari harap income you tu akan meningkat. saya percaya you perlu tidur 4 jam je sehari untuk berjaya. trust me

  • tu la

    kepada pearl,

    saya setuju dan saya tahu maksud anda…tapi i pun bukannya duduk rumah hari hari..maksud saya, mlm ni pendapatan pasif…tak semestinya macam kerja kerani i tu..kena ada kat meja tu hah baru ada duit…

    tapi macam ni la kan…ada orang pernah tanya i jugak…betul betul dah 3000 tu apsal tak duduk kat rumah jer…i tergamam la kan…tapi macam biasa..dalam industri ni kan…adat bertanya tu memang digalakkan…jadi saya pun bertanya…bertanya kepada yg baru join..dah lama join…newbie la…pro pun ada…macam ni la..biar saya berkongsi jawapan yg paling memuaskan..

    mesejnya macam ni..kenapa orang yg mula mula pi berjoging dan selepas satu tempoh…orang tersebut jadi sihat sebagai hasilnya…tetapi mengapa orang tersebut masih lagi berjoging selepas tu walaupun dah sihat? apa akan jadi kalau dia berhenti berjoging tiba tiba? adakah akan terus jadi sihat ataupun kembali kepada keadaan asalnya sebelum berjoging? pikir la persoalan ini…

    dan jugak kenapa saya buka blog ini dan baca blog ini? ini kerana melalui mlm jugak saya belajar bahawa kalau kita nak berjaya dalam era ini…kita kena selalu berkomunikasi dgn manusia lain…kalau ari ari pandang monitor typing jer tak kan berjaya punya la..jadi di sini sume komennya datang dari manusia..pelbagai jenis…maka di sini jugak arena utk saya meningkatkan taraf diri saya…kan kalau nak maju kena bijak berkomunikasi..dalam ofis mlm i tu dah tepu dah i komunikasi…di sini lebih banyak orang..lebih banyak pluang nak majukan diri..

    lebih banyak feedback di sini..lebih banyak halangan di sini..kalau dapat atasi halangan, dari situlah saya mula majukan diri i ni..macam hidup jugak..jgn elak halangan hidup pasal ia lah salah satu cara nak berjaya…masa mula berjalan, kalau tak jatuh tak kan tau berjalan jugak..kena jatuh dulu baru lah tau berjalan…macam pokok kalau dibakar, hasilnya arang yg lebih tinggi nilainya…pastu kalau arang tu ditanam dgn tekanan yg tinggi dan haba yg tinggi…hasilnya berlian la tuan tuan dan puan puan..jadi sekarang i ni anak pokok jer..tapi i faham teorinya maka di sinilah ada tekanan dan haba berupa komen dan kutukan yg boleh didapati…

    Masalahnya ramai yg tak boleh tahan akan tekanan hidup sedemikian..ramai yg kecut…pasal tu la ada pelbagai komen negatif di sini…i pun cuba la tolong..mana tak nya….bayangkan ada budak yg tamak, labur duit 30 ribu, pastu satu jualan pun tak berjaya dilakukan dan pastu terus kutuk…haih naif tak manusia macam ni? macam mana sokong atau setuju dgn manusia macam ni? kalau nak buta buta sokong pun..i tak larat tau..berat hati i nak tipu diri sendiri..

    Pearl, oleh itu saya sgt menghargai masa dan komen anda dan jugak kepada pemilik blog…terima kasih la..melalui blog ini jugak la kita dapat menyuarakan pendapat masing2…kepada yg selalu negatif..pikir la bahawa bayi tidak direka utk merangkak seumur hidupnya…kena la belajar berjalan jugak…anak burung pula kena la belajar testing kepaknya agar boleh terbang…jadi ni jer la nasihat i..tak semestinya dalam mlm jer…dalam hidup pun kena pikir nak maju…

  • dah tau

    tu la;

    ayat2 ko samer jer dgn ayat2 yang aku dengar mase aku terlibat dgn Amway, terlibat dgn Swisscash, pernah sembang2 dgn member aku yg hardcore CNI (aku byk diexpose & hampir join), pernah di’brainwash’ oleh agen2 Uptrend, Lazaa, termasuk yang terbaru dgn member aku yang join DCHL nih…

    ayat2 falsafah ko ni lebe kurang serupa, saling x tumpah…jujur aku cakap, x tipu…utk bdk2, student2 hingusan, boleh la nak citer camtuh…dgn aku, aku bantai gelak jer…aku dah rase semua tuh…aku dapat rase, ko ni pun baru sebenarnyer…

    aku respek Amway & CNI…mmg ade fraud, mmg ade flaw, tapi diorg betul2 jual barang…mmg nampak jelas flow barangan diorg di merata-rata…DAN MEREKA ADA BANGUNAN MEREKA SENDIRI, bukti yang mereka mmg kukuh…anyway, aku dah x terus lg dgn Amway, simply sbb aku x aktif jual barang & jumper org…mmg boleh untung cara lain dgn Amway nih, tapi aku x nak buat…duit haram, sampai biler pun idop x berkat…

    aku musykil DCHL nih…
    1. korg x register langsung atas nama DCHL, sebaliknya atas nama RZ Corp…WHY….??? kater company International…??? even Amway & CNI pun daftar atas nama diorg sendiri…

    2. mana annual report DCHL/RZ Corp…??? mana kami nak tau, money-flow DCHL..?? mana report jelas berapa sale, berapa asset, berapa revenue, berapa operation cost…??? even Amway & CNI pun ade annual report…korg kater korg international…???

    stail DCHL ni mengingatkan aku pasal Lazaa & Uptrend…stail marketing yang sama, cara persuade yang sama, stail ‘push’ yang sama, cara psiko atas nama (nak tolong kawan2/naikkan ekonomi melayu) yang sama, syarikat jer yang lain…

    aku cumer nak tanyer korg yg pro-DCHL/LB ni la;

    - kalo la DCHL ni bagus sgt, kalo semua kene join DCHL, kalo yang x join DCHL ni semua LOSER, saper yg nak jadi kerani..?? saper yg nak jadi technician..?? saper yg nak jadi doktor..?? saper yg nak jadi tukang sapu sampah..?? saper yg nak jd polis, peguam, bomba, askar..?? SAPER…??? adakah semua2 org2 ini LOSER…??? kalo korg sakit, korg pegi jumper saper, doktor atau upline korg…??? kalo korg nak report kecurian, korg pegi jumper saper, polis atau upline korg…???

    - If all the one who not joining DCHL is LOSER, does that mean all people who work in ADMIN, IT, SECURITY, FINANCE (clerk, officeboy, technician, accountant, supervisor, etc…) in DCHL/RZ Corp should be consider a LOSER too..?? dont u realise, the LOSER doing the job for u to process ur pay, application, order, maintain the DCHL web…??? are they also a LOSER to u…??? if all going to be DCHL businessman like u, whose gonna doing all the administration thing…??? whose gonna process the application, process the paycheck, maintain the facility…???

    setiap orang ade peranan masing2…kalau seseorang itu tukang sapu sekalipun, dia bukan LOSER kalau dia jalankan tugas dia betul2…

    yang LOSER adalah budak2 otak tamak nak jd kaya yang percaya ape sajer ckp Upline korg hatta utk meminjam wang yg byk & sanggup menipu kawan2 baik sendiri DEMI DUIT…& this should go with DCHL too…

    kpd pro-DCHL yg belagak citer beli keter baru la, dapat lima angka la, aku cumer nak bgtau, aku dah byk jumper manusia2 macam korg…aku tau sgt bkn semua yg korg ckp tu betul2 ade…kalo korg student, korg pk la elok2…mak bapak suro korg blaja jd org yg berguna, bagi duit pinjaman utk belanja korg kat tpt stadi, bkn utk join MLM…nak join MLM, nak rase perit-jerih suka-duka MLM nih, join lepas korg abih stadi & guna duit sendiri, bukan duit pinjam…jgn terpengaruh dgn puak2 MLM mase tgh stadi nih…aku dah masak dgn perangai org2 MLM ni…pd aku, orang2 MLM yang kejar student2 adalah org2 MLM yang PALING CELAKA SKALI…TERANG, JELAS LAGI BERSULUH DIORG BUKAN NAK TOLONG KORG, TAPI DIORG CUMER NAK SEBAT DUIT PINJAMAN KORG…jangan terpedaya dgn ayat2 manis diorg…aku tau la, sbb aku pun dulu student gak…

    kesian aku, ORANG MELAYU KTA CUKUP SENANG KENA TIPU…jadi lah usahawan yang sejati, jangan jadi con-man…

  • tu la

    kepada dah tau,

    memang ayat ayat saya generic…sama seperti kawan kawan ko yg ko cerita tu…memang la kiri kanan ko pergi ayat dia kira ada persamaan jugak..memang betul..ini kerana kita belajar daripada satu sama lain..benda benda macam ni bukan pasal mlm jer..falsafah hidup jugak…kalau ko tak setuju, maksudnya anthony robins, jim rohn, zig ziglar, kiyosaki dll sumenya ko tak setuju jugak la tu…benda benda personal development ni penting..kalau tak tau ketinggalan la kita nanti..

    dunia perniagaan bukannya mengenai siapa yang ada ayat yg unik..bukan pasal dia jer hero boleh berjaya…ia berkenaan dgn teamwork, financial achievements….

    dan kepada u i nak tanya…kenapa u sendiri pernah join pelbagai mlm tapi akhirnya tidak setuju dan tidak berjaya?
    dari situ nampak sgt ko nak cari peluang baru pasal, rezeki dan bakat anda di dunia pekerjaan tidak begitu memuaskan betul tak?
    sekarang bukan salah bisnes…peluang sudah diberikan kepada anda..faktornya diri anda jer..saya mengaku saya kerani jer, tapi saya kerani yg rajin..lepas bertahun tahun kerja..tak ada penghargaan dari bos ataupun rakan sejawat..sumenya pentingkan diri dan nak jaga periuk nasi diolang jer..tak kenal langsung maksud teamwork… dibuli, ditipu dicon lagi ada la..

    sekarang kenapa ko tak teruskan jer biznes pertama anda? kenapa nak join banyak banyak? satu dah cukup…
    saya percaya downline anda ataupun partner anda sekurang kurangnya dah ada pencapaian kalau mereka stay…
    mungkin masalahnya anda tak stay, tak buat, dan selalu mengeluh dan sentiasa berpihak kepada kegagalan daripada kemenangan dalam hidup..

    kalau tak caya, tgk diri anda masa anda menaip komen tersebut..puas hati tak dgn pencapaian anda? saya puas, saya tak beli kereta fairlady ataupun ferrari macam biz partner lain…tapi ari ni saya cukup makan dapat melabur dalam ASM tahap maksima 20,000 unit…lepas 7 hari nanti, kalau ada lagi baki dana..boleh beli lagi 20,000 unit…tak semestinya nak kereta jer..tapi apa apa pun itu hasil usaha mereka biarlah apa mereka nak beli…semuanya benar, tak tipu, mana nak sewa kereta ferrari hari hari tunjuk downline lain lain? tak mungkin kan?

    jgn pandang kat tuan ferrari tu macam dia tu sombong la, kaki tipu la..tapi pandang dan ingat bahawa dia adalah orang yg dah berjaya dan berita baiknya kalau anda minta nasihat dia..dia akan tolong..bukan macam orang kaya dari industri lain, dia ludah kat u ada lah..pi minta nasihat kat doktor..dia tunggu peluang ko sakit nak bedah ko ada lah..

    kepada yg lain, komen dari DAH TAU berbau perkauman..bukan saya tak setuju..tapi kurang lengkap…
    macam ni la, lebih lengkap punya..dunia ni ada dua jenis orang..satu manusia yg sentiasa nak majukan diri satu lagi macam mana punya tanya la DAH TAU…dia mungkin berpengalaman..jadi TAK KIRA BANGSA, mesti ada nilai kemenangan dan kegagalan dalam hidup. anda nak berdiri di pihak yg mana satu?

    Jadi masalahnya sekarang bukan agama, bukan biznes, bukan upline, bukan student ke, bukan loan 32k tu…semuanya sistem yg adil dan ada peluang nak berjaya..masalahnya kat manusia tu sendiri…tak caya tgk balik zaman persekolahan anda..mesti menyesal macam aku punya..aku pemalas dulu…sekarang dah insaf…tapi dah terlambat untuk berjaya dalam dunia pekerjaan..tak mungkin jadi manager…terlambat dalam dunia professional, tak mungkin jadi doktor, jadi peluangnya hanya di dunia perniagaan..

    masalahnya di diri manusia..ini bukan hal mlm jer but mlm tambah personal development yg korang tgh kutuk…kalau tak nak maju takpe. tapi jgn la menghalang peluang orang yg cuba untuk berubah…macam i, kalau i dengar kutukan mlm sumenya, tak kan boleh ada chance i tidur dgn senyuman lebar malam ni pasal terpikirkan pelaburan saya dan jugak masa depan saya yang tiba tiba cerah…

    kepada DAH TAU, mesti sume ayat ayat di sini anda pernah dengar betul tak..biar saya bagi tau satu perbezaan, anda cuma tau jadi tak ada hasil,…tapi saya tau, saya buat, dan sekarang saya tgh menikmati hasilnya. tu jer…saya percaya bekas bekas upline u tu sumenya berkaliber..masalahnya kat u tu jer..takkan satu dunia ni yg salah tapi korang jer yg betul? dan kalau ko tak setuju jugak..fikir diri ko dah berjaya, bagus untuk ko..saya pun hapi pasal saya pun ok jugak sekrang…

    dan untuk sajian pembaca, boleh tak ko macam aku, berkongsi kekayaan dan mengajar orang lain macam nak kaya…sanggup tak ko ajar orang lain nak kaya? ataupun biznes/perkerjaan u akan terancam kalau ajar?

    tuan2 dan puan2 inilah keindahan mlm…

    p/s: ekuiti dah labur…lot lot bumiputra is next..see u at the top (haha, kpd sekalian jgn gelak iye dgn ayat power ni)

  • bolong

    kepada DAH TAU tunjuk dulu financial statement dchl berape shareholder die ape forecast business diaorang silap silap ahli sendiri x tau al maklumlah terbuai dengan kekayaan hasil mlm .Satu lagi soalan kepada yg dh berjaya korang punye income dari jual barang ke cari ahli yang lebih banyak kalo cari ahli lebih baik masuk politik weh lagi kaye berjuta juta!!

  • amontre

    Kepada yang dah Kaya Raya,

    Cakap mudah dan murah..tunjuk lah apa hasilnyer. Aku duk dengar cerita sama berulang kali, kereta pun sampai sekarang tak nampak2..asyik duk tunjuk kete Upline dia jer, bila tanya mana krete ko..skang cakap tak suka dah…nak invest property plak.. apa-apa lah..

  • amon

    kepade yg teringin nk kaye, jangan mengalah walaupu in the end nanti kamu kecewa kerana apa yg upline ckp bohong belaka

  • pearl

    hi, dah lama i x komen dalam forum ni. i bukan la pro’ LB atau anti’ Lb
    tp i nk komen sikit la pd korang. i tengok korang ni suka komen guna emosi. please, tujuan kita kt sini bukan nk negatif, kita nk kongsi pengalaman yg kita lalui dalam LB, sebab i tau ada kwn2 yg nk join bisnes tu, byk yg akn kaji dulu. jd sy harap kita matang la sikit. kita boleh ckp kita x setuju dgn LB tp jgn jd budak-budak. sy pun x setuju juga. sy harap sesapa yg nk join LB tu. fikir la dulu. diri tu mampu x? risiko tinggi. org ckp x de bisness yg x berisiko dan org yg x snggup tggung risiko org yg gagal. ya betul. tp kene fikir juga risiko yg kita nk tggung tu berbaloi ke dgn diri kita. sound great is it? sampai korang nk tau apa itu LB. sy alu-alukan korang pergi tgk, cuba, alami, tp please jgn ambil 100% dlm hati sebelum korang kenal bisnes tu betul2. jgn ulang kesilapan mereka. ( yg dlm komen ni ).kt sini sy bg tips kepada yg nk tau pasal bisnes ni

    1. pergi survey, ambil komen yg positif & negatif,-timbangkan
    2.langkah kaki dalam kompeni,(klu kwn ajak ikut) tp AWAS jgn terpedaya
    masa ni korang akan jd kabur, kagum dan mudah dipatahkan sebab masa
    ni la dioorg dlm kompeni akan patahkan korg.diorg dah pakat ramai
    dan sedaya upaya akan cuci otak korg sampai korg rasa ini lah
    ‘MASA DEPAN AKU’. pesan aku rileks jgn terburu-buru.
    3.jgn terus join, bg masa 2 minggu atau sebulan.datang lah hari-hari.
    believe me diorg akan push korg letak duit/deposit.korg akan dapat rasa
    ada ‘SOMETHING’. kadang2 ada partner yg akan ckp kasar. diorg akan
    teman korg tel kwn utk pinjam duit (menipu-korg x kan dibenar ckp nk
    wat bisnes-tp diorg ada alasan knp)jgn percaya
    4.semakin lama korg x join. partner akan mula sisihkan diri dan perli2.
    5.nk melabur boleh. start dr yg bwh.
    tp ingt sebaik je korg letak duit 2000 tu. lepas 2@3 hr diorg
    akan push korg letak 36.000 pulak. diorg akan sedaya upaya. bw korg
    pegi sharing. masa tu ramai lah yg hentam korg. pesan saya jgn mudah
    terpedaya. kaji dan fikir lagi. ini MLM je berbaloi ke labur byk tu.
    ada duit? x pe. brg dpt korg boleh pakai, brg ok berkualiti, puas.
    x ade duit? diorg akan teman korg pinjam (menipu lg)TRUST ME
    6.selepas 1 @ 2 bulan korg x melabur Lg? diorg akan sisihkan korg,perli2
    dan diorg x kan bw partner baru sharing dgn korang.WHY? pikir sendiri.
    7.lg satu korg perhati lah. diorg ckp ini bisnes sendiri2. upline
    dowmline dipanggil bisness partner. tp semakin lama korg dlm kompeni ni
    korg akan nmpak dekat sudut ni marquis ni tgh marah partner(downline yg
    lembab), dekat sudut sana upline dalam Tel tgh tengking downline.
    kt sudu lain pulak sekumpulan marquis tengah kumpul bincang apa
    yg diorg nk wat dgn partner yg konon diprg nk tolong sebab lembab sgt
    nk kumpul wang/tak ajak org lagi. situasi ini mengajar diorg x hormat
    org lain lg sebab income dirg bergantung pd downline. kata bisnes
    partner/bisness sendiri tp x reti hormat org.
    8.ini serba sikit TIPS i bg kt sesapa yg nk join bisness ni. x salah nk
    cuba dan nk berjaya. sume dalam tgn sendiri tp. jgn terburu-buru,buatla
    keputusan yg betul dan jgn mudah terpedaya. selepas korang dah ikut
    TIPS ni dan rasa mampu nk langkah lebih jauh silakan sebab masa depan
    korang dah depan mata. kalau tak sanggup, jgn cuba, jgn terpedaya.
    menyesal nanti. korng tau korang mampu tau atau x? dgr gerak hati.
    please jgn ignore hati kecil korg.
    9.kadang2 kompeni betul tapi orang yang dalam kompeni tu yg buat x betul
    kerana nk kaya cepat.

    thx..

  • FallenNaked

    eh. .burger?

  • FallenNaked

    it wouldn’t matter if people gain profit by working their ass off. Lies? Prank? sometimes i do that stuff too. means that up to the person to decide what they want to take, if it’s true than good for you , if the opposite happen then blame on your own sorry ass.

  • http://www.soonvee.com Anson

    Hi all,

    Firstly,i believe on MLM but i don’t believe on the people who distributed this LB business & products.Who ever was joined this LB they at first will try to convince you to joined as franciase but after u joined they will forced you to fork out RM36K to take the count rank but in fact the upline was never told you regarding to the count rank before you joined !!!

    What the hell,afterward those upline & sideline try to insult me that francaisee rank is just nothing the most impressive sentence they ever told me is :”if you just join as franciasee u better go out work la because the outcome are nothing different from makan gaji outside!!!” and i will never forget this sentence….!!
    FUCK OFF ╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮ ▄█▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀

    Don’t you LB guys feel shame when use the phrase “business” to describe this everything?Don’t you guys know the most important thing to a business is “TRUST”?Please don’t use the phrase “BUSINESS” when you guys can’t even give the basic thing “TRUST” to us!!!

    Another bullshit i have heard a lot from LB is that no need to sell anything in this DCHL.Whenever u come to a business there must be a buying&selling process occur in between otherwise it is not a business!!!

    The biggest flaw on LB marketing plan is allow people to buy the rank which means u invest the money yourself for the 4 virtual baron rank account under yourself. when come to this circumstance?Meanwhile,if you simply doing the same at Amway you will be terminated your membership with Amway because your downline are not making any sales and the they will do the investigate for that.(I am skeptical whether DCHL aka LB are just “one eye open,one eye close”)

    After all,it just not sound any good for us as a prospect to joined under DCHL group…

    Declare: i am not a anti-LB and i am believe on MLM business also but seriously this DCHL aka LB is too far away from my own interpret from MLM

  • LB

    LB have no involve in here. They are famous brand in Europe.

    The fact is DCHL, MLM or whatever business or organization do u guys work for which just franchise of LB and other product.

    They’re running network system to distribution without retail shop and other tax or rental fee. Using ur guys for a “salesman” and give u the commission. Exactly the same with Network 21 or Amway or so many kind of network marketing like this around the world. They have good PR n Marketing which attracted all of u get in that business. But depend on who u work with, good or bad. Then u might hate or love it. Every business is always CHEAT to survive and growth, however, cheat with ethical n unethical is different.

    So DONT BLAME the BRAND, think about who you work with???

  • http://www.soonvee.com Anson

    It is not the brand matters!!! It is your whole systems problem what the hell your marketing plan allowed people to invest money to buy up the rank?? I want to buy Platinium rank at Amway,please buy for me!!

    Somemore LB membership fees also expensive like hell compare to Amway i just need to pay RM75 can sell their 4xx different type of product.Listen carefully 4xx product!!!

    Amway founder Richard DeVos also a one of world billionaires according to Forbes.So LB,what the hell are you with your founder Maurice Berger?In terms of reputation,LB still have much more room of improvement!!!

  • perin

    jual murah, stok minyak pati pengewap Lamberger, 50% off, berminat? contact perin80@yahoo.com. (for your information i bukan agent atau pengedar, dan bukan ‘pro’ DCHL,)

  • humanbeing

    from my experience..

    kalau LB ni betul, kenapa ahlinya perlu meminjam duit sana sini? bukannya sikit2.. tapi beribu..
    sanggup bergolok gadai semata2 untuk LB..
    orang2 bawah susah payah meminjam sana sini.. orang2 atas semua goyang kaki.

    I cakap based on pengalaman my sister..
    bukan makin senang, tapi makin susah.. kerja separuh mati.. kononnya nak carik network..pinjam sana sini..
    muka pun dah tak malu nak pinjam duit kat org..

    sanggup paksa orang buat loan , pinjam duit, gadai barang kemas..
    apa semua ni..?

    yang peliknya tak de plak pihak berkuasa ambil tindakan???

    kalau dah ahli tu mmg la mempertahankan kononnya depa hidup senang.. 5 figures income, luxury car..
    tp hakikatnya semua menipu…

    macam mana nak sedarkan mereka yang masih belum sedar.. kesian budak2 muda.. especially budak university.. semua terpengaruh semata2 kerana kemewahan…

  • tu la

    :mrgreen:

    la korang ni…

    i tgh ok jer skrng…takdela teruk sangat macam yg korang kata…

    Memang i pernah tgk mata sendiri, member join 30k tapi bisnes tak laku…kesian dia…pasal tu pinjam duit sana sini..haihzz…

    Yang korang ni pun satu…kenapa nak join 32k kalau 2500 tu ngam ngam ada dan halal macam 32k jugak…mula la dari bawah..tak kan 2500 nak pinjam sana sini dan gadai emas kot..duit beli kereta dgn hutang beribu sebulan boleh…haih…

    kenapa nak join 32k? lantak la kawan korang tu paksa ke apa..duit korang jugak…masa aku buat 2500 steady jer sekarang..dah pulang modal tinggi tinggi gitu…mesti korang tamak punya pasal la..aku pun dah sound member 32k yg aku kenal…apsal tamak?

    ingat buat wayang ke buat bisnes…dan kepada yg dah gagal tu…satu benda jer i perasaan, mereka memang malas punya kaki tu pasal…suruh buat sikit takut rejection la ni la tu la..masa labur tu excited…

    dan manusia macam ni la rosakkan bisnes i…bukannya company atau member member lain…

    To make things clear, how to perceived this kinda of ppl..to those english educated, from educated family, international students like…i ask u guys how u all perceived the people from goverment sector?

    Mesti pandang rendah punya la macam kita dari rumah haram duh..hidup guna air bil elektrik free…kita ni pemalas…bodoh…dan dalam dunia internet bila kira boleh speaking ni kira bagus la tu…

    Kira orang internet ni kebanyakannya english educated…poyo mat saleh la katakannya…saya tak suka bila bertembung dgn manusia high class sebegini…

    tapi saya terpaksa setuju dgn manusia high class kuala lumpur ni bila kutuk LB tipu orang…orang government la yg join yg banyak buat loan 32k pasal senang approved dan kadar bunga rendah…dan banyak la orang government kecundang dalam bisnes ni…orang cina india seekor pun susah nak jumpa..malay jer banyak…

    setuju apa ko tanya?…kita memang malas…pasal tu la…32k lesap tu cuma satu tanda balasan kita malas..kalau tak 32k tu lama kelamaan masalah duit akan datang jugak…mungkin bila kita dah tua..dah malas apa nak buat..takde ubat punya la

    haih…saya kerani nak maju jugak…gaji tak cecah 900 malu duh…pasal tu buat bisnes..mula la dari 2500..jgn tamak 32000 tu..

    dan memang manusia high class sini memburukkan LB…kononnya mereka high class dan gaji 3 ribu dah settle boleh poyo dgn vios atau city suka hon motor aku…memang mereka betul LB ni teruk la katakan…

    tapi sanggup kah mereka high class ni sanggup ajar i? how to improve…as long as i know my boss onli know how to make me work ten times more than salary im receiving…if i listen to u guys here talk bad abt mlm, talk about being a failure n blame other ppl is ok…then how else am i going to improvise..? part time dont have leverage..u c..budak kampung like me oso know wat is leverage….

    just hope that i can giv these poyo high class ppl a tight slap in the face when i achieved financial freedom n u guys still in rat race…

    kepada geng geng sekampung dgn aku…kalau ada cara lain…tolong tunjukkan…merempit tu sume tak yah la k…lagi kena kutuk dari manusia high class ada lah…suruh i belajar tak la k…dah komit kat business dan otak i bukan jenis belajar pun…pasal tu kerani…tapi harapan ada lagi di mlm…

    jgn tunduk kat kata kata orang bila kata u tak belajar u mengemis…mungkin akademik bukan dunia kita…mungkin dunia mlm where people relation and leadership comes above all technical issues adalah jalan alternatif anda…

    tapi ingat jgn tamak…anda boleh jadi count dgn 2.5k jugak…n when u rch marquis that the time u changed ur life from living frugally to a better living….

    i kampung i kerani…sekurang kurang nya i tak meragut dan merompak macam rempit lain..kalau la i buat gitu…i mesti cari mat kepoh kutuk lB dan rompak budak budak ni…korang jer rezeki i… n dalam LB i pun tak paksa…onli influence n persuasion…if its no then i wont push n thats how i made it..

    so..to admin thanks again for this sharing platform… :mrgreen:

  • tu la

    Kepada semua yg baca blog sebegini…

    Dalam google, anda type lampe berger…keluarlah dalam 7-8 blog macam ni..betul tak?

    Pastu anda sume baca baca dalam komen panjang panjang…ada baik ada buruk, betul tak?

    Pastu conpius blur macam mana ni? Nak join ada nak lari pun ada…

    Macam ni la, tuan tuan dan puan puan…satu soalan jer yang merangkumi segala blog, comment la itu la ini la berkenaan isu isu mlm..

    Soalannya begini, daripada segala komen yg kita dapat, ada dua kontradiksinya iaitu setuju dan tak setuju dgn LB betul tak?

    Maka ada dua jenis manusia di sini…

    Orang kaya dgn masalahnya iaitu ingin mengubah pandangan orang ramai berkenaan LB, mencari downline, membina bisnes, kekurangan tidur dan kepenatan kerana selalu ke event LB agair dapat memajukan diri dan macam macam lagi…

    Manusia jenis kedua adalah manusia Middle and Poor Class di sini yg memang bilangannya majoriti la katakan dgn masalahnya sentiasa tak cukup duit, kutuk periuk nasi orang lain, suka focus kepada permasalahan daripada penyelesaian, takut untuk memajukan diri, mengalah sebelum mencuba, dan macam macam lagi…

    JADI, kedua-duanya pun ada masalah betul tak? DENGAN ITU, anda macam mana pun sebagai manusia kena pilih salah satu masalah daripada dua pilihan itu…

    Nak masalah macam jenis ORANG KAYA??

    atau

    Masalah jenis ORANG SEBALIKNYA??

    PILIH la tuan tuan dan puan puan sekalian…kepada yg tak nak masalah tu, takde hal…i respect segala kebebasan anda memilih, tujuan i di sini hanya nak beri pendapat.
    Tapi ingat…manusia yg sentiasa mengelak masalah dan enggan mengatasinya..manusia golongan macam ni la favorite SEGALA MASALAH DI DUNIA

    p/s: ini adalah petikan comment dari port lain. for sharing. again admin thanks

  • humanbeing

    Tu la.. i nak add skit komen..

    ni bukan masalah nak kuarkan 32k or apa..
    mmg permulaan join rm2500.. pastu kena carik orang bawah..then.. bila carik2 tak de org nak masuk.. mula la leader2 atas ajar cara cam mana nak “lompat”..
    bila dah dapat cara cepat nak “lompat” mula la janji manis itu ini dgn orang2, sanak saudara, kawan2….

    p pinjam duit sana sini registerkan tuk org lain.. then benda ni akan berterusan..kalo tak continue, maka mampus la network dan income nya..

    kat situ yang salahnya… susah nak citer panjang kalo tak nmpk situasi..
    main dgn duit ni..adik beradik pun boleh gaduh…

    tak tau nak cakap macam mana..

    dengar kata skarang ni LB ada problem kan? dah tukar pakat jual bebola dobi tu pulak? apa crita?

    sapa2 boleh update news ni?

  • amontre

    Goood loh…now we can discuss all sort of ponzi’s and cheating scheme here.. baguslah..camni yang kita nak…majulah orang kita :)

  • Mangsa LB

    Hi all. This topic awesomely hot. Got responses from Dec 23rd, 2005 at 5:30 am until today I wrote this, Aug 20th, 2009 at 3:44am.

    This is my story, I was one of the victim of this scam kinda business.
    I’am suppose to graduate from University YESTERDAY but bcoz of this damned kind of business, I still couldn’t finish my study and maybe will take another one year and a half.

    This business had turned my life to be miserable. I had been introduced to this business by my old friend from the same matriculation college. After I gave RM10k to him, I never see his face up until today and I don’t want to do it so because I really hate him now.

    This business is really a scam. They influence people by using psychology. My mom told me that I was like a “another person” when I was asking money from my father. Last time I was so naive that had been cheated by my friend twice. 1st time when we met, he told me that the business only take RM2.5k for starting. I done thing that I hate most in my life to collect RM2.5k which is “borrowing” money. I borrow from few persons to get RM2.5k. After I had payed him the money, he gave me some products that I myself don’t really know that what am I buying. WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS IS THIS, SELLING PRODUCTS THAT CUSTOMER THEMSELVES DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE BUYING?. The word from his mouth, “To be successful, you just have to listen and follow”. F**k, the phrase always come from his mouth when I ask about something that I want to know more. At that time I starting to sense something fishy but I don’t know why, I was like being hypnotized. I still put my thrust on him.

    After a period of time, he starting to say something about Count plan. He told me that many people in the business want to be a Count. But when I was asking him to tell me about it, he was like keeping it from me and saying that I’m yet not ready to hear about it. At that time I was really mad. WHAT KIND OF NETWORKING BUSINESS THAT HIDING THEIR BUSINESS PLAN? After I successfully convince him that I’m ready (I myself actually don’t really know am I ready or not), I realize that the capital to start this business is not RM2.5k but more than RM45k! The lowest capital to get to earn kind of 4 digits of income is RM10k. So I struggled to collect that much money. I only manage to get RM10k from my father as my father was extending his loan to buy a new car. Actually at that time, I just changed my course of study, I HAD NO STUDY LOAN! I have to pay to PTPTN RM10.5k cash to make a new loan because of changing course and now, I owe both, my father and PTPTN because of it. At that time, it was suppose to be better for me to pay PTPTN rather than giving him the cash.

    After I realize that I couldn’t do the business successfully, I took a termination form from the office. If you terminate your registration within 3 months of the date buying the “rubbish”, you can get refunded but not 100% refund. When he heard that I want to stop, he bring a group of his partners come to convince me to come back to the business from his new comers to Marquis. They all come to my hostel like caring to much of me, giving motivation to continue the business again. THIS WAS THE 2ND TIME THAT I MADE A BIG MISTAKE. I suppose to terminate my registration but, at that time I 2nd time gave him my trust. I don’t now how I got “hypnotized” again by him.

    Because of that, I was really frustrated. I could not study. My pointer result drop. I failed my exams and I can no longer focus on my study. So at that time, I had requested a postpone a semester from university. I had been working as a cashier in a pharmacy and at that time it was really hard. I couldn’t stay at hostel so I rent a room with Indonesian students. It went for more than 5 months. My mom was really shocked when I went back to hometown when she saw a bruise at my back. She was very sad. I myself don’t realize that I had it. It happen because I was sleeping on the floor. I didn’t be at hometown when Hari Raya because of working. I ate Mee Sedap with rice almost everyday. And sometimes only eat 3 pieces roti canai from mamak stall in a day because I didn’t have enough money to buy better food. I felt guilty and I don’t want to ask more money from my parents. At that time, he never call or sms me. I just got an sms that sound “Ble ko nak bayar utang aku RM400?”.

    Now my life had change and become better. Because of him, I get to know one of my lecturer really close. He take care of me like his own brother. Up until today, I yet do not find any solution to solve the greatest problem in my life which is about money, how to get back RM10k, how to pay my loan RM10.5k, they money that I borrow from my friends and … What in my mind now is I want to finish my study first. I really believe that someday I will find the solution for all these problems I got.

    For the conclusion, do not involve yourself in this kind of business. The company is truly an MLM kind of business BUT the persons doing the business had turned this business another way. Although the company provide the products training but they treat it as a dummy. What they want is the “system”. For me it is like A PYRAMID SCHEME HIDDEN IN AN MLM SYSTEM. For your information, after u have paid the money to be a count, you won’t get any income yet until you introduce or “scam” other to join under you. WHY WE NEED TO REGISTER OTHER 3 NAMES AS A BARON BELOW US TO BE A COUNT, NOT BY SPONSORING SOMEONE WHO WANT TO BE BARON THEMSELVES? By doing this, the people who get the most profit are the people who are above you, your upline and so on. THAT’S WHY THEY INFLUENCE YOU TO BE A COUNT. AND ALSO WHY THEY LIKE INFLUENCE GOVERNMENT PEOPLE TO JOIN THEIR BUSINESS IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT ONLY GOVERNMENT PEOPLE CAN DO LOAN THAT MUCH OF MONEY.

    Some of pro LB will say that I’m a loser. YES I’ AM. I choose to be a loooooser because I don’t want other people to suffer like me. I don’t want to transfer my suffer to somebody else to become a “successful” business person like you all.

    For the readers, think wisely before involving yourself in this kind of business !

  • amontre

    mangsa LB,

    Thanks for sharing, pengalaman anda mungkin dapat membantu pembaca membuat keputusan :)

  • miss erin

    bkn semua org bleh buat bisnes. bkn semua org mindset bisnes. mcm2 pendirian kita ada. so nk tarik org join bisnes, cari la org yg mindset bisnes dr awal lg sng. diorg phm selok-belok. xperlu susah2 brainwash org mkn gaji join benda ni dgn melabur byk. commitment pun xleh nk bg 100% bila join benda ni. pastu skrg,mslh cmni la.gaduh sbb benda ni.sama2 melayu pun nk bergaduh.

  • amontre

    there’s no sama2 melayu ke..sama2 cina ke..sama2 india ke..sama2 kadazan ke.. tak perlu dah semua tuh… 1malaysia :)

  • cibai kia

    cibai lb !!!!

  • anti-LB

    So, this shit company has closed down already or not? I hope they will stop scamming there.

  • caeeeeee

    soooooooooo

    apa cite terbaru lb nie… opis dia kat kwsp building di penang masih operasi ka????/

    sesapa ada latest news tolong share…..

  • gimbaran

    LB was strong
    now even stronger
    and will be the strongest.

    kpd yg tia mo buat, jgn paksa diri. nanti mnyesal. pas tu cakap yg bukan2. ini tia ngam la, itu tia bagus la…

    kpd yg rasa dipaksa buat, jgn buat. nanti salahkan org pula.

    kpd yg mo buat, fahamkan bisnes, fahamkan sistem, buat trus. benda baik jangan dilengah.

    p/s: pastikan join dengan orang yg betul ikut sistem.

  • pearl

    hello, i dengar LB dah tak jalan betul ke? dekat DCHL menara HLA tu pun dah tak de org.. yang ada cuma myanmar dan beberapa kerat je. lagi i dengar cawangan dia yang ‘main’ kat Taiwan tu dah tutup sebab Chairmain dia ada masalah sikit dengan LB dan tak nak teruskan bisnes ni. lagi apa yang i tahu Mr Steven Yim ( orang yg bertanggungjawab bawa bisnes ni kt malaysia dan mengembangkan ia di asia-melalui sistem MLM )dengan Duke Ken(dari Hong Kong)dah pindahkan beberapa kerat “TEAM’ mereka ke satu bisnes MLM yang lain. I tak tau nama kompeni dia la.. apa yang i tau diorg ni jual barang kesihatan la kononnya boleh ubatkan orang Lumpuh. diorang punya “main” produk ialah Kerusi Urut. nak join bisness ni diorang kena labur semula RM 250 untuk yuran Ahli dan
    RM 800 untuk produk lepastu barulah partner2 boleh dibenarkan bawa orang. Diorang beribu pejabat dekat bangunan The Weld Jalan Raja Chulan. Lagi apa yang i tahu banyak partner2 LB yang berputus asa dan tinggalkan kompeni lepas tu, sebab mereka tak yakin dengan marketing plan kompeni baru. (sebab income sikit).
    sesiapa yang tahu pasal perkara ni boleh tak terangkan dengan lanjut sebab i pun tak berapa tahu sangat pasal ni. :?:

  • cae

    laaa…. mcm tu pulak kaaaa… habis tu LB offce kat kwsp building di penang masih beroperasi kaaa????

  • Pasonia

    I know I’m putting some thought into this before posting.

    I have to say that when people are convinced that something will work, it will work, and likewise other things that they don’t feel will work just wouldn’t.

    I really won’t call this scamming, but neither do I like all the levels in LB itself. But the fact remains; if even in Singapore the police did not call it Multi-Level Marketing (like what happened to Goldquest, for those who’re old enough or knew this happened) then perhaps there’s little reason to gripe about it. In any case, I feel the aromatherapy worked for me, and I don’t speak just because I’m a blind LB defender but because I’m more the “end user” since my mum is more of being the seller.

    I’m not a man to work without getting my facts right, and there’s two things I’d like to say before ending this post.

    1. I like LB because it has worked. My dad and my mum, all into their 50s, had their health improved at one point of time or another, like getting an eased-up blood pressure rating from constant use.
    2. I don’t like LB, however, just for the business aspect. That’s purely because I’m not a marketing guy to begin with, and I am not sure what use there is to the constant seminars they have. The issue though, is that I wouldn’t denounce LB sellers because, no matter their objectives, they are actually selling something that works for myself and my family. The same goes for other companies like Bel-Air.

    I would assume you, the poster, has not used LB before and are denouncing it purely for its MLM-like practices. If given the chance, try it out. There is no pure bad about this whole thing for LB, but that said there isn’t just good for LB either. Perhaps you could change the article to make it sound a little less condescending to those who did work their pockets, life and soul off for LB, and perhaps stop calling people con artists when you are acting purely based off of secondary sources (such as TV media) and are not a primary user of LB products.

  • biggie

    If you just an end user, no need to join that shitty DCHL. You can just directly buy on ebay, amazon and any other market places that sell this products for 10 or more times cheaper!!!!

  • gimbaran

    jgn blame kompeni atau produk jika anda tidak berjaya. blame diri anda kerana tidak bole buat.

  • pinoy

    lamp berger penipu, buat rugi duit aku saja

  • anonymous

    untuk pengetahuan semua…..

    saya ada beberapa orang rakan yang telah join biz nih…..yang lucunya sampai sekarang belum mendapat downline…..ada yang suda mula menyesal kerana telah melaburkan banyak wang (40k wooo) untuk mendapatkan pangkat count & produk LB yang jika dibeli d ebay harganya jauuuuhhhhh lebih murah…o.k tentang kawan sorang nih,suda 2-3 kali menyuarakan hasrat untuk tarik diri tetapi setiap kali berbuat demikian,datanglah pula upline bersama-sama gengnya untuk membrainwash kawan nih….last² belum jd kluar smpai skarang….hmmmmmm….ntah lah….nasib baik sy tidak join dulu….bukan senang nak mencari downline dengan modal yang besar…huhuhuhuhu….bagus lagi buat rumah….

  • ahakz

    meh sini aku nak citer plk..aku bekas budak syn dulu..walaupun aku x invest sampai 40k tapi aku da kuarkan 7000 gitu..aku memng menyesal la join MLM nie yg tah haper2 tah..dikaburi nagn bebudak yg datang pakai kot….pastu sampai par gurd kat bawah pon kene t-up memng menipu abisla…kalu kowang nak aku bawak kawan akau yg kadi penipuan SYN aku boleh jer…memng sesal x suda sowang

  • noname

    after 4years, i still cant determined the rite or wrong of this sellin method. but im very sure that i hav spend around rm3000.00 to learned a lesson and know who is a real fren.

    i was approached by a collage mate that lost contact for at least 5years in 2006. we used to very close fren back then. i was jobless when contacted. the rest of the story are more or less the same as published.

    after i joined as franchisee, my upline n her upline refuse to help me to give “talk” to people that i wanted to get to joined as my down line. they keep pushing me to “buy” a count first before they are willing to help me. they refuse to help me when i got somebody that can buy a ‘count” immediately after joining.

    ‘working” lifestyle of these ’workers” is a bit strange as well. ‘working hour” start off in the evening like 7pm in the office then will move to mamak and hang till 2-3am in the morning. after a month of so with such lifestyle, when my money just keep goin out but nothin comes in, i left without bidding farewell.

    when i refuse to answer call from my upline, she left threatening message to me and express how she “care” bout our ’friendship“ and so on.she refused to return a book she borrow from me and also some money of rm600plus. even i got my other fren to collect from her, she give us a no-show. so till today, i dare not contact her anymore and im still rm600 poorer.

    i dun believed in this skim, i just wish her luck lah since she sees this “job” as a “god” to her entire life.

  • Dark Angel

    well.. i cant finish all the comments above aft the few ‘fuck’ comments..

    actually the LB product is very good.. my sis was an Ex-MLM member too, she was failed to achieve the millionaire bcoz she nv get the understand the product and learn how to bring out the goods of the product.. myself very hate those MLM ppl, but dun mistaken my word, i juz hate they keep ask us take money to join..

    for me, very simply, LB is a product, i will juz use the product but wont join the MLM system, Yes, thr is example which is successful but is depends on how u work on it.. dun juz blame on the plan, as some of those said, no free lunch, u hav to work v it, not juz take out 30k to join thn sit n wait for rewards, u r suppose to sell the product of 30k not by keep ask ppl to take out another 30k..

    so, do believe the products b4 u wanna sell it.. is the product make u a millionaire not the MLM plan.. dun mix up the PRODUCT and MLM system.. I LOVE LB product but not the MLM system.. sorry for the MLM supporter, juz to be honest..

  • Steph

    LB is always the best product….

  • dk

    hmm… joined lampe berger but never made it… but no regret at all… go to their office.. the experience is like “WOW”, its a culture of earning money…. saw some made it… but some people join and start getting angry when they haven’t got any income… hey there just no easy money man.. all the top upline and leader worked very hard to get to their level… and still work very hard to keep it.. its not a scam or anything.. if u think u can make it, u r ready to work hard, then join.. n u will be successful.. but if u not ready to work hard.. it just a waste of money… ^__^

    ps:everyone will give a good speech just to make a good impression on the business or item he/she selling… awesome car, 5K income and all the stuff is true.. but hard to get… so there is no lies in that.. hehehe… and thats what keep some of them(franchisee) going.. until they reach their goal.. peace..

  • gimbaran

    betulll….

  • http://lampebergermlm.blogspot.com Intern Analyst

    Yes, new in response to the ongoing trend.

  • victim..

    i was raped becoz of LB..

  • gimbaran

    pity u…

  • no name

    i hate this thing..this thing was cheated me..act the people who invite me..shit!

  • Joxxxxx

    I heard the ozone theory from my friend (who got suckered into buying one) and laughed out loud. Haiyo, didn't pass Standard 3 Science ah? When you light a fire, oxygen gets converted into carbon dioxide, not ozone! Hahahahahhhh….. As for the oil, it is 99.99% paraffin oil (read the label), which is a fancy name for kerosene. Pay RM400 for minyak tanah. Kah kah kah…… A sucker is born every minute. Go to the prayer paraphernalia shop and you can get the same thing for RM10. Just add your own perfume and voila!

    I don't know about the marketing side, but if you can sell a RM10 bottle of oil for RM400, sure can drive BMW in no time. And considering the number of suckers in Malaysia, why not?

  • to tell yall

    this is very funny guys, u all are here and give u own chance to people decide your future. and tis is who failure only talk bout ppl's company bad, because of he does not success because of he dont know the company at all. u guys are follow oso, so SILLY… not even know the company u all are actualy no qualify to talk bout goodness of the company. even u been heard before, but wat position are you now to teach ppl? a business man? if no, just quiet u KIDDY.

    and hey ther NO NAME, dun say u r hate ur friend, U ARE SO CHILDISH, and i dont think u thought ur friend as friend too, so pity if i hav a friend like u kids.. ur friend just wan to share a thg wif u, doesnt like u, sooooo selfish.

  • kesian

    i mmg lgsg tk pecaya LB ni..pity my sister, 40k ++ burn celah jari jer .. dia tu keja kerani govt jer, buat loan ribu2, terpedaya dgn sorng upline ni. upline dia lari, my sister dok bayar tk abis2 hutang tu smpi tua.

    most pity to my fren yg keja govt sector for 5 yrs but then berenti sbb terikut2 buat LB..at last senyap terus, masa depan musnah, keja hilang, bergolak rumah tangga..

    for me, ikut la ajaran nabi, buat bisnes kena jujur, jgn tekan org, jgn paksa org. setiap urusan mesti ada lafaz akad jual beli. yg menjual bleh berbangga, yg membeli berpuas hati, segala urusan di berkati. tk yah la nk menipu org dgn system nth apa nth.

    LB & seangkatan dgn nya..tlg lah stop musnah kan kerjaya org, apa lg yg dh beranak bini tu, kesian kat keluarga mereka.

    ada skali tu, my fren yg keja dgn govt ni dtg umh tgh2 mlm, ajak lepak minum sbb nk discuss something. then, pasai kwn i tu i dh lama tk jumpa, i pun ikut laa ..sian anak bini i tinggal kat umh berdua. at last, lepas borak sembang2, lepas dia dh basuh i yg keja mkn gaji ni (tapi i tk terhegeh2 la nk pi berhutang sana sini) dia ckp i tkde masa depan … wah hebat kan ayat dia. pastu siap basuh my wife yg buat insurans ni mcm penagih jual vcd tepi jln. hey org2 LB, kalo nk citer tu bleh, tp jgn la lekeh2 kan anak bini org, dh tu rezki dia, at least dia usaha dgn cara dia, tkde pi basuh anak bini org smpi camtu tgh2 mlm.

    really kesian la dgn my fren, i tau la dia pun desperate nk buat sale sbb dh invest byk, tp akibat dh terlalu pressure nk bayar hutang n dh tk keja dgn govt, dia menggelabah smpi kutuk2 org. at least kalo u all amik ins dgn my wife, u all mati, ada pampasan, dpt gak byr duit hutang piutang semua langsai, tp kalo u invest dlm LB, u all mati ker, suh la anak bini u all minta la tlg count2 marqis2 u all semua langsai kan hutang2 u yg berlambak tu, mgkn diaorg bleh tlg .. mgkn laa ..

    Cheers.!!

  • victims

    this thing such a suck..liar..stabbing the people from behind..i hate this things so much

  • http://shkaf.dp.ua/ shkaf

    Wanna to join LB. BlackMetal thanks for your comment =)

  • HATES LAMPE BERGER

    Are you still in the business? How well are you doing today? It's a scam and you know it! Stop kidding yourself and get up! Why do you need a FORMHD to begin with? IDIOT!

  • HATES LAMPE BERGER

    WOW! Lampe Berger produces such foul mouth business man? Incredible! Sure is hell wouldn't wanna go near that company! So emotional! Forget's of the power of choice… we choose "NO TO LAMPE BERGER" LAZY MAN'S BUSINESS!

  • GOD of GODs

    What a shame! Earning so much but can't talk two sentences without the f work, sigh what a shame indeed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YHHWYIMGSMNR3EYDG65MCLDT5A n

    oh no!! this marquis or duke is speaking english u all..haha..

  • Freeguy525

    all tipu and cheating, my friends lost a lot money for it, now he works like hell to get money.
    Back to reality in life better. Those university students thought can gain much money using this way, sigh….

  • S0ngfak

    This Fxcking LB still alive? WTF 

  • charles

    yup…but the old guys (steven yeam, and gang) are no longer there…..now a lot of indonesian and bangla ppl

  • Ranmail2

    …and how come its top 50 mlm company in malaysia for the year 2010?

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