hmm.. i got test tmr.. but still not finish studyin it yet… not in the mood for studying i guess.. duno y.. slept at 7.50am this morning.. cos chatting on phone with gf… y? bcos some stupid fella trying to con her into lampe berger MLM thingy.. which is already proven is a scam.. her fren brought her for supper last nite.. n then with whole crowd of lampe berger fellas… n then.. huh.. i’m really impressed with their tactics… they asked her to drive their so called new car… BMW 5 series… n still she only found out its a tactic after i told her… its quite obvious when someone trying to talk u into some kind of multi level marketing thingy… n then telling u that he or she earned duno how many k’s.. each month.. n now.. he can afford to buy a new car.. wah… BMW 5 series… are u impressed??? wana join??
i managed to find a lot of info about this lampe berger thingy.. n yes.. its a scam.. something like those thingy that u light up in a room.. with the smell that can cure ur sickness… bullshit la… i even found a clip from HK TVB where those host went into the company to investigate wat the hell is it.. n then.. they even bought the lampe berger n test it in the lab.. it is said that the lampe can produce O. atom after burning it… n then.. then the atom.. O. combine with our oxigen.. O2.. it produces O3.. which is our ozon.. which can filter away all those harmful particles in the air.. n the results from the lab came out that the lampe cannot produce a single shit at all.. wana watch? there are some studies show that these kind of things is harmful to pregnant womens also.. not in the clip la… TVB clip.. cantonese.
y i’m so pissed off? i duno… i just dun like those ppl scamming other ppl’s money.. with all kind of bullshit.. if u really wan ppl to join something.. b honest.. at least let ppl know wat the heck is that thing.. the fren asked her to go to the company tmr.. which i insisted her to reject the fren.. but then.. they still have the strongest tactic.. claiming that they are ur fren.. hard for u to reject them right? so after hours of trying to reject her fren.. the fren ask her to go to the company to c wat he is doing all the time.. AS A FREN… bullshit.. really bullshit.. we’ll c wats gona happen tmr.. my gf promised me that if something turns wrong.. which a lot of other ppl in the company interupt to ask her to join.. she’ll just leave the place.. from wat i heard.. those ppl in the company will try to poison u.. saying that they earn how much money each month.. quit their job bcos this lampe berger is earning much more than their own job.. n then.. showing their so called luxury sports cars… which u dun even know it belongs to them or not.. they just rent it mayb? LOL…
friends… friends dun force their friends to do anything… friends are suppose to help each other when in need… not forcing u to go to the bullshit company n listen to bullshits.. wasting ur time.. what i saw in forums… those ppl who brought their frens into the company for bullshiting.. they are not frens anymore.. for example.. the Ecosway thingy… started by my fren in utm here.. approached me.. i say no.. that’s all.. no more topics about it… that’s wat i call frens… if someone say no to u for this kind of business… just stop it.. if u really felt that he’s ur fren.. no point of ruining a friendship bcos of something u think u can earn money from but he dun.. that’s a true friendship..
Updates 22 April 2007 – Malaysia’s Security Commission had listed out an alert list of scamming potential investment programs at http://sc.com.my/ . Lampe Berger was listed in the list but then was removed after a few days. What happened? I don’t know. And yet, newspapers had news about this fraud investments and LB is listed in there as well. So guys, those who kept on cursing around in this post comments, can you give us some reasons why LB is listed in those list? 
Hi there =)
I accidentally stumbled into ya blog site when YahOo pumped out some search results under my query for “Lampe Berger Malaysia + con”. First off, I’d like to say I agree with you and sympathize with what happened to ya girl as the EXACT same thing happened to me yesterday. Friend I hadn’t seen in years called me out for a drink claiming it solely for the purpose of rebuilding ‘bridges’ and WHAM! I found myself locked into an hour’s worth of ‘friendly’ persuasion. Of course I said no. You seem to know alot about the events that are happening behind the scenes at LB. I was wondering, could you share with me your opinions on why u think its a con? I want to save some of my friends as well before they make a big mistake which they’ll regret later. THANX
Seems like there’s still ppl reading my old blog~ lol.. LB.. hmm.. actually i’ve stated my opinions in the blog right? they’ll use all kind of tactics just to lure ppl to join. A lot of ppl got scammed bcos they are just way too greedy. Lots of them were persuaded to join with very large ammount like RM30k to be at the top level. Sorry I forgotten the name of that level. Do watch the video i posted as its very informative but its in cantonese only. I just hope these kind of MLM can be banned out of malaysia someday. Its poisoning those youngsters out there~
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i felt really sorry for those who dont understand this business that is pretty much normal bcoz if isn not for u guy there wont be a market for those who want to success in this business why pretty much aesy there is a very working system is proven to be success it is call (SYN)Steven Yeam Network just follow his method with dedication that u want to be success there u got it with hardwork and your sincerity in this business i personnally anssured u will be success if u are a member of SYN .For those whose has been though they have been cheated u r not been cheat because u fail why do u fail is bcoz u gave up just like a soldier raise a white flag before the war even started yet .Trust me u are not been cheated by SYN .DONT GIVE UP ON THIS BUSINESS .For you all there is a information that i wanted to share is that TVB CLIP is totally a set to destroy the reputation of the company .TVB hk has been sue by the company and pay a amaount of compensation to the company already.And in hk ICAC ha been investigate the company is not a pyramid or liar company if that can calm u .M any negative came from those people is bcoz the dont understand about the whole thing.THINK BEFORE U ACT!!!!!
eden,
Think before you post.
Think before you accuse…
Do more research why people quit.
Why people just don’t do.
Why there so many problems.
If you are among the top management, you will know alot.
But being you below the tree, you might not find out so many things.
Dig more about the company…
and.. you will find more and more loophole..
Mathematically it just can’t sustain for god sake.
It is just a cycle of ppl cheating ppl.
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eden.. we need proof ler to show it to ppl.. do u have any? let’s find it out together k?
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The more bad pr for LB, the beter.
My brother just joined..now want my dad to fork up (KWSP money) 30k.
Basically, 30k is just to get to Count Level (so you get higher % from coning others).
This is a scam. We need to tell the Pengguna on this bullshit scam.
oh ya, to Eden. There are some questions i want to ask.
1. Why the joining fees is so high? RM 2345 for a franchise level. Other MLM companies are not so “greedy”.
2. Why is there a system to go up straight to COUNT, for 30,000. Isn’t it obvious the DCHL company is sucking up so much money? From my bro who joined, he mentioned 95% of LB guys have paid 30k. There are 65,000 (according to one of the LB members) in Msia. Do some rough math here…
65,000 x 0.95 x 30k = 1,852,500,000 RM
That is 1.8 Billion in sales for that shitty company.
Can’t you see what’s the reason behind those upline can drive BMW, merz, ferraris…coz they are sucking in so much money, at the expense of the society…
That’s all..
FYI, if I meet any LB fellows, I will tell them my mind…no matter whether he’s Steven Yeam or not..
my gf has recently joined .., she has argued with me how do i stop her … this is really a bullshitting company ,super brainwash … omg!!!!!HELP ME out anyonE ??
ask your gf to go visit
http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com/
It happened to my bro..i really dunno how to convince him otherwise.
hahaha….dun listen 2 people up there. u listen 2 a failure u also become a failure..hahaha..dun put ur future on their hand…all this people r stupid…and din think wanna earn money by them selve…lampe berger is da best way 4 u 2 earn money by ur self and its not 4 figurs or 3 figurs..all r 5 figurs..hahaha…so fuck all da people who anti lb…fuck them from head to toe…fuck da whole family…mutha fuckers …adios!!!
FUCK U ANONYMOUS…^ daredevil FUCK u 2…hey fuck ur mother la…fucker u duno bou lampe berger and u talking wat..crap?? telling cock stories…hey bastard dun u think of earning money ur self ah??? dun fel shame askin money from ur parents everytime ah??? wei son of a bitch wat the fuck u know bout lampe berger ah???…u all telling lampe berger whole bunch of idots driving expensive car..but u duno whether they buy or rent rite???..it doesnt matter at least they driving a expensive car no matter rent or they buy…but wat u driving??? kancil?? wira?? hey come on la?? kancil wira called car ah???hey stupid daredevil mlm is not band in malaysia la u son of slut…binary system banded in malaysia la stupid dum fuck…daredevil fuck ur mom bitch…make money by using ur mom…hahahaha…cool…FUCK EVERY 1 THAT FUCK LB…SOONER LATER ALL DA PEOPLE WHO FUCK LB WILL BE CRYING BY LOOKING AT THEIR FREN WHO IN…TRUST ME LB MEMBERS….I LOVE LB…LB IS MY LIFE…STEVEN YIP..HEY CAN I FUCK UR MOTHER FIRST??? HEY IDOTS U TELL LB MEMBERS DUNO SPEAK ENGLIS VERY WELL..NVM LA..AT LEAST THEY ADVANCE THEN U EARNING 5 FIGURS PER MONTH…AND U?? I GUESS 0 FIGURS RITE??/ COZ U R A FAILURE SLUT…TRUST ME NO MEANIG 4 U 2 LEAVE..GO N DIE FASTER..K???MEET LB PEOPLE WANNA TELL WAT??? TELL LA NOW BASTARD…FUCK UR MOM STEVEN YIP…FUCK FUCK FUCK..THEN LET OTHERS ALSO 2 FUCK K??
hi annonymous, i assume you are one of the LB members? If you are trying to make a good impression out of it, stop fucking around. Show us facts but not all the “fuck” words k? I do know some ppl who are earnings lots of money in LB. If I were them, I’ll be ashamed because of members like you, making bad impression of LB members. And I’m not a LB member, which I felt ashamed of ppl like you posting in my blog. How old are you anyway? Show us who u are and not hiding under the name of annonymous and fucking all around here. Grow up man~!
hey fuck u la…i dun give a fuck….tis ur blog or ur fucking moters blog or ur fucking fathers blog i dun givea dem bout it….who the fuck r u 2 ask my age??? u not ma fuckin fren??? do i know u in da first place..grow up??? telling me??? fuck u in the first place la bitch…u grow up first la mutha fucker…i dun need 2 show my self…who r u 4 me? not my fren..if my fren then i show my self la….hey why im talkin 2 u ah??? i dun like 2 talk 2 failures…i dun like 2 talk 2 shemales….stupid son of a whore…
Why r u talking here? because you’re an idiot after all. Show us some proofs and not fucking around like an idiot here~ an idiot that thinks his talking to failures.. real idiot
Hey man…acctually, i don’t wanna give comment about it…but i just feel damm fuck up when u step on our foot..Can you fork out such big amount of money to buy your dream car just to bluff ppl..U DREAM ASSHOLE!!!! We buy the car is because we earn the money with our bare hand for 24 hour a day..and the car is to reward ourself..only can do it in LB…Go out and work u fuck ass…pls work your shit out for the rest of life to buy u a sport car…maybe can’t even afford to get loan by the time u retire… KISS MY ASS BITCH..WE WILL ROCK SINGAPORE ON 8 JULY 2006 BUDDY!!!
hey mutha fucking daredevil why dont u come 2 our company ah??? coward!!!..no cock?? where’s ur guts ah??? come 2 our company la…dchl..at hla building..next 2 orange club..150 meter from klcc…u got my point..ur r a failure man..trust me..dun fuck wit us u young ass…u asking for trouble slut…dun make us pissed off k?? dun get ur ass woooooped 4 talking cock k???…dont do bullshit k?? go n try 2 find a way 2 earn money la mutha fucker..dun waist ur time k??… if u really wanna fuck with us u son of a bitch why dont u come 2 our company???…grow up man!!!…dont even know lampe berger properly n u start talking cock…haizzz…o my god..tis kind of people also got in this world…lastly im telling u again…em..not telling..im warning!!!!! u again..dont try 2 fuck wit us!!!!!!!!!…shut ur fucking mouth and mind ur fucking own business…we dont go and disturb any 1 unless them come and disturb us…we always mind our own business…u understand wat i mean rite???…and wat ever we doin is our own fucking problem…it’s not ur fucking problem..k???…so shut ur fucking mouth and stop talking cock….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hey wat shame lb members talking all da vulger words??? hey we actually good..we can be very good,polite,kind,helpfull 2 any 1…but..catch my word “but”…if we get mad…haizzz…we wil be really mad…why we get mad??? bcoz of people like u who simply post blog and simply talk bad bout lampe berger…that’s why we get mad…we all lb members din disturb u people…so u people mind ur fuckin own business…dont disturb us..k??? that’s good 4 every1…what ever we do is our prob…its not ur fuckin’ prob….
hahahahaha…i read all da blogs…so funny…hw ever u people dun like lampe berger also…u people write and tell bad things bout lb also…we lb members have no effect at all..we all still earn 5 figurs..hahaha…driving our dream car..hahaha…so for sure on da 8 JULY 2006 WE ALL GOING 2 ROCK!!!!! SINGAPORE…COOL!!!!!..MUHAHAHAHAHA…SYN SEE U GUY THERE!!!!
daredevil..hw r u there???…act mlm is not as wat u think la my dear fren…got other mlm company cheat people but lampe berger dont..trust me…lampe berger dont cheat people…they showing the way 2 become rich..up 2 u whether u wan it o dun wan…but if u can please try 2 find out more bout lb..come 2 our company..we dont mind..can come and have a look…people say ‘seeing is believing’ so come and see ur self and make a decision…k??…dun mind people dont there really get mad already coz u talk bad bout lampe berger…my fren trust me…juz come and have a look at our company and get 2 know more bout our mlm concept…if u like then u can do..if u dont like then we dun mind…up 2 u my fren..ur future is in ur hand…sure u got dreams rite???? da best way i suggest u 2 make ur dream 2 become true is by doin lampe berger…trust me please trust me….i know u r a good guy..may be u talk bad bout lampe berger bcoz u got da negetif new from ur frenz or other people or who ever…but please dun trust and 1…u come and see it by ur self…then u make decision….can i ask u somethin??? do u mind if i brain wash u 2 make u become a millionair????? do u???…
Annonymous, if you don’t give a fuck, why come here fucking all around like an idiot? Do you know what’s the main problem of you guys? Its the attitude. I mean why fucking all around here without giving any facts at all? The more you guys do something like that, the more negative impressions you get. I’m just saying about the experience my gf had with some of the recruiters. Not all ok? I know there’s some who are good attitude in recruiting ppl into LB. Some are my friends as well. Why can’t you guys talk politely like son of god did? Oh ya, I won’t step into the building.. not a single step. I’ve been listening to the same phrase from LB ppl. Same actually. My experience, 3 LB members from 3 states, Penang, KL, and Johor, saying the same thing to recruit me. “Do you mind that I brainwash you to make you a millionaire? Do you want your parents to retire early? Do you want a BMW in early age?… etc etc..
Then if I refuse it, same words again, ” nvm, at least there are some failures to serve us when we go restaurant for a tea… ” ” you’ll be regret when your friend get a BMW later.” why bmw? why not mercedes? why not ferrari?
I know the business is good profit. I even know some who had made to marquee level. So stop fucking here and show some facts if you wana convince ppl. That’s how business do. Do you seriously think that ppl will believe LB is good by fucking here?
So much fucking around.
Just go to my blog and do that. Not here.
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sigh… wat a pity… this proves that certain LB ppl are just so retarded in EQ, who cant control their emotion, let alone anger.
with all those fuck words around, well, what makes ppl think that they will be ur good upline? i’m sorry but if u found urself wana pull out from LB, these uplines will shut u out with all the fucks they can give you.
join LB and i promise that u’ll get all the fuck arounds…
okei guy we put it in dis way…if u people dont talk bad bout our company..if u people din disturb us…we wont say all da fuck fuck word wan…the main prob is now u people…u people start 1st…u talk bad bout lb..u give negatif things bout lb…plz get 2 know more detaily bout lb…then u talk k???….dun juz simply say k?…go 2 da company…im not askin u 2 go 2 da company 2 gt brain washed…im askin u 2 go 2 da company 2 get 2 know waht is lb bout…be a real pro man..come on la dude…investigate first then u talk la buddy…dun juz simply say…haizzzz
hi Anonymous,
it shows how LB educate you guys, oh did you manage to get a degree. bet you suck at your degree, so u manage to con the shit out of ur parents money and join the network. sorry aunty and uncle. it pretty sad to see uneducated u r. lb can be categorize as masyarakat sampah. damn your really good at sucking steven yeam’s nipple = syn. enjoy sucking and stay in SYN but it sounds more like Sucking Yeam’s Nipple.
we can see your gonna rock singapore 2006 but we are gonna spread our words and form a huge ANTI LB community in singapore.lets go anti LB community.ohh aaron reminded me of SYN sucking yeam’s nipple.lol nice quote aaron.
It amuses me greatly that so-called businessmen from Lampe Berger resort to all sorts of vulgarities and profanities ad nauseum when challenged.
I didn’t knnow the requirements to be a successful businessman was to be rude, obnoxious and threatening to others.
Goes to show the level of maturity (or lack of it) of these wannabe millionaires
yeap sadly but true, uneducated bunch of losers.
suck steven yeam’s nipples???…good tell la wat ever u people wanna tell…we dun care at all…we uneducated also our monthly income is more then ur dad or ur mother or u ur self…tell la wat ever u wanna tell…say …wat ever u wanna say…do la wat ever u wanna do…how ever oso we still will rock singapore tis july…hahahaha…we syn members going in 2 singapore by polise escort…singapore police escort..and we going 2 have rav party there…hahahaha….wat ever u people say oso ah wee still driving a sports car and still getting our monthly income 5 figurs…so we dun give a dem…hahaha…syn goin 2 rock singapore tis july…see u guy there…
Hi guys,
U gotta pardon this SOB from SYN, coz I thk his nut is a bit loose up there. Well 1st of all I gotta admit tht I am a DCHL member and I understand the frustration of ppl who did not quite cut it out in MLM world. Its gonna take a hell of passion & commitment to succeed in any MLM business.
For information, LB is just one of the product distribute thru MLM networking system by DCHL. As a product which is more than 109 yrs old, LB has proven it can stand the test of time as well continued being relevant to today’s world which is getting more & more polluted (just refer to the latest Times or was it Newsweek).
All I can say is that some network within DCHL (u know who..la !!) abuse our company mktg plan and start conning ppl out of their hard-earned money and left tis ppl stranded wt all the goods on their hand. I am fortunate to have join a very good team who not only help me to build my organization but oso help & teach me how to sell my goods. And tis coming from a person who hated MLM for the most part of his life , I am pleased to say I joined a rite team in a good company.
All I can say is if U guys come across any those ppl who say U can get rich quickly in LB but dun have the need to sell anything, my advice to ya is to get away from them as far as possible. Coming into any MLM, u must be prepared to work hard and most of all to change and definitely selling is & will remain the mainstay of netwok marketing company.
Just my 2 cents worth.
hi anonymous,
Could you check with the company, why the loophole is still there?
Is it possible they take it off?
If not, people will just misuse it.
Well its not really a loophole, but there r some ppl (esp those that rise very fast…eg the latest couple from JB), who after ppl has taken the option to join….did not help/assist/guide them to sell their stock. Most of tis gp ppl will stay in the company office (their pedestal) and wait for their downline to bring ppl and spk to them.
Well unlike them, we have uplines who will follow us around all M’sia just to help us wt our sales and at the same ensure we make less mistake & will learn directly from them.
As for our company mktg plan…all I can say it is very simple & straigthforward unlike some other company who offer multiple plans like plan A & B, thereby confusing distributors/end-user and at the same time that
boasting they pay-out more than 74% or 75% ….when in fact the plan if u calculate carefully is less than 60%(maximum). In fact MLM plan is just simple mathematic model , the basic ingredient for success lies in how big your organization is.
In order not to be misled, ppl need to realize that there is no free lunch only thru hardwork, commitment, continuous self upgrading & consistency is the only way to succeed. But most important as distributor we should/must never neglect our downlines, while downlines should oso play his/her parts by putting in effort & cooperating wt upline.
JMHO
yeah, i believe there is still some good apples in the company. It is some retard that misuse the marketing plan and want to earn big bucks with the shortest period of time.
I couldnt believe LB is recruiting all these shallow minded yet agressive teens.
Well, here lies the biggest problem for DCHL lampe berger
Your marketing plan can be misused.
We have Count Generation/Recruiting Bonus, Marquis Generation/Recruiting Bonus, Duke Generation/Recruiting bonus.
And all this bonus only applies if you are Count and above. And to get there fast, pay up 30k.
It’s straight forward easy to understand, all these bonus will drive heavy recruitment, while neglecting the products selling.
In fact, Marquis just need to maintain personal sales of 20,000 PV, while his legs go and recruit more Counts. They have to, caused they themselves did that. And this is the only way to get back their money.
Marquis can earn 5 figures easily.
Yes, you do need a lot of hardwork to reach that level, but working in an unethical business plan, it doesn’t matter how hard you work. It’s just plain wrong.
If I were in DCHL LB, I would voiced this up to the management. Do something about it. Stop the Cut Count thing.
At least this can ensure LB members to try to sell the lamps, and not getting the next sucker to invest 30k blindly.
I doubt a lot of teens wants to sell lamps for a living.
I understand ppl frustration. Well despite all this negative feedback, DCHL mktg plan does use the business model as its backdrop. A lot of ppl thk coming in as Count will automatically means success, well the truth be told coming in as Count requires the individual to be more hardworking & also be more responsible, and not forgetting to leverage on upline’s help (sorry fr those SYN folks, ur upline is busy booking their seat at their castle,HQ 24/7…so the only way is to bring the cow back to HQ,).
Back to mktg plan, just like in business world, when u buy a larger stock…ur supplier will oso offer bigger discount, but the diff are in not having to undertake heavy liabilities such as basic overheads i.e. employ employee or even pay for office rentals etc.
Therefore the only to stop tis nonsense is to stop unethical org like SYN from abusing the system, but at the same time dun paint everybody wt the same brush coz there r still ethical distributors trying to earn decent living.
Most of the time, the blames always lie on the people.
Please look at the damn marketing plan.
That plan is flawed. If SYN can exploit it, so can other XXN, or YYN do the same thing.
If there are ethical distributors inside the business, I would suggest they quit, and go find real work.
Not coning the shit out of our young people.
Anti Lampe Berger
Maybe ethical laywer should not charged >10K a case , maybe an ethical surgeon should not charge >15k a surgery , maybe an ethical governement servant should not take rasuah, maybe an ethical ppl like ur self should not give rasuah, maybe an ethical bank/credit card compannies should noyt charge more than 20% interest p.a , maybe an ethiical remisier should not work at all since we already can buy stocks online, maybe an ethical graphics designer should not charge at all since it does not bring value to our , maybe an ethical accountant should not help those big tycoons hiding their money from taxation coz there r much poor ppl who still have not enuf to eat out there … maybe they r still ignorant ppl who still like to condemn the whole community despite the fact the the spoilt rotten apple like SYN does not represent the whole community….. U know what maybe we should kill all terrorist/extremist for world peace…is that really what u want ? then maybe u should be in politic…there would be a bigger platform/audience for your performance.
Hi,
I stumbled upon your blog while trying to get more info on L.B as a friend of mine keeps pushing me to join.
I’m so scared to pick up her phone call everytime cos it would end up taking alot of my time and it’s all about “Don’t worry I’ll help you,we can really earn this huge amount and all you need is to join at SGD 1200 odd.
To me I wont even fork out $50 a-day for food.what more to say $1200?
I don’t want to lose my friendship with her but I don’t want to join smtg I don’t believe to work.
I’ve been trying to avoid her since.every phone call is rejected and unanswered.I’m just tired of being drag to listen to this.
Most active ppl in LB are chinese educated.
Most of them do not have access to these information on the internet.
I joined them many years back, before LB even got heated up in Msia, but i left soon after i discover and understand about the business model.
Steven Yeam is a great motivator.I love his speech, even till now, I still listen to his recorded live talks, it somehow gives me motivation to fight for my own dream. I’m having my own company in conventional business now. It’s hard work, but it may be satisfying at times too.
Problems of LB lies in the marketing plan itself. These group of people simply use this opportunity to make big money out of it.
A lot of innocent people did sign up and fork out rm30k without getting a clear picture of the business model. A lot lot of people run into problems because they lend 30k from other people like loans, ah long or family members.
How can we create adwareness for more people ? Would you think starting a chain SMS on this helps?
I think if 1000 visitor here can forward a awareness SMS to 10 of his most concern friends, relaitves and family members.. we certainly can put more innocent people on alert about the scam of this marketing plan.
Directing your concerned once to antilampeberger/lampeberger help page would be good.
Please do so for all your concern friends, family and relatives.
Please sms to your young nephew..friends…as well. They are the one most prone to attacks from SYN now.
Once mind of these young fresh grad being poisoned by them, it may ruin their entire life. Pls show concern for them and send a SMS awareness link to them.
“http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com”
Ask them to be cautious over this opportunity.
Your SMS may save your concerned ones future.
ok..i admit wat u all say can be argueable.. ppl againts lb, i silas liew ..asks u politely to please find out more n double check whether ur info is 100% facts ..im in the buisness n in steven yeams network ..im proud of it..he is a wonderful person..he could create tat plan wher ppl could suceed just like he did..some of u say tat the money ppl fork up goes to all the uplines , the higher status ppl..but evryone in the buisness is doin wat he does ..copycatin evry step ..if tis plan is a so called scam i would still follow it ..coz we are doin wat the rich are doin..mlm is the future buisness why? ask donald trump,microsoft,cocacola,gillete,air asia..please..and please again …no more talk about syn .. good i dun mind larr..haha natural mah.. but i ask u all one thing why got anti lb? why? bad things said are only said by the ppl who dun like something..ppl sudenlly gt nothin better do do n spread bad things ?? AND YEAH WE DID ROCK SINGAPORE.. I JUST CAME BACK ..I MET LOTS OF NEW FRENS HAD ALOT OF FUN THE WHOLE SENTOSA COULDNT HANDLE US..HAHA..CHICKS WERE HOT ..PPL FROM 11 CONTRIES WERE ALL THER ..I WILL NEVER FORGET THIS EXPERIENCE ..ONCE IN A LIFE TIME.. n we donated 100,000 SGD to the student care fundin .. for unfortunate students ..if u say tat its very little to wat we make ..at least we do ..SYN I LOVE U .. SYN members from IME i miss u guys ..see u next time ..dear partners plzz keep in touch ..silasliew@yahoo.com..
and to those antilb ..respect others and they respect u..
to lb members who were fuckin around ..u all were doin the right thing but the wrong way ..dun worry juz do it proper ..this month we get pv n next IME we all go sharing as marquis ..hahaha no duke better ..hey anti lb ..i honestly tell u its not a scam ..its not a waste of time ..it is proven ..logicly if it is it will already be rectified .. so ..to the guys who have girlfrens havin problems with their frens askin them to join ..if u dun like tat so much go to the company and end it once and for all ..go ther n see ..and tell it to our faces ..plzz peaple in the world faith is ther for a reason .. why so expensive ? its class products ..wat do u think ..? expensive merr ..for a francise buisness ..wat buisness can u do wif a cheaper modal than 30 k ..n guess wat 30k no more price increase to 36 k ..but no one can invest tat position anymore ..due to pace.. anyone not agreeing wif my statement can email or call me ..or we go yamcha .. im different i dun force orr talk cock i dun even like to talk markettin plan .. but i talk sense and wat is facts .. ok ..so all anti lb ..ur makin a big mistake ..rethink ..atleast ..to check it out again ,uve gt nothin to lose .. unless u all no balls which i trust tat none of of u will admit ..
Daredevil, if you don have bmw don go bullshit around. you got money go rent or not first? Do you have a mother by the way?do us all a favor and fuck her hard. this is the first time i ever heard a boy friend dont want his girl friend got the chance to drive a good car. you jealous is it?
cool_cucumber, do you know how to read? read comments from silasliew. Professionals talk like that not like the way u posted. Talk to ur clients with that kind of manners and see what happens then. I noticed u guys like to fuck ppl’s mother… I seriously doubt u ever earn anything from LB. People will respect those like Silas.. not like u.. get a life dude.. go on and fuck around here.. and let others see what kind of response they’ll expect when they talk to u guys.. good luck dude
I don think that those people who were Vulgar are from LB, if they were SHAME on you, Have you not heard what are 555 system is. Be sincere!!!! You guys are the ones that is ruining our Network. You should be proud and promote LB instead of being an ass and mouth off profanities.
As for antiLbs, please stop saying nonsense, about our Marketing plan and our beloved Arch Duke Steven. He has done nothing wrong, whats wrong in making millionaires out of ordinary people, you, yes even you antiLBs, when you join us you can be millionaires, all you have to be is to be Hardworking, not to be lazy and LISTEN and Follow, its a coy cat business. And no you dont have to fork out RM 30K to be successful, they are some who have made it BIG even though they came in as Franchisee and built from just RM 2345. Its a slow process but hey its also risk free, This business is not a scam, please, I run a successul business before I joined in, I did my due diligence, studied the marketing Plan and its a wonderful plan. and I have never regretted joining. We work HARD! and WE PLAY HARD! Ask any SYN members who were in SENTOSA. It was incredible and yes Silas, the Chicks were awesome. All 5000 business partner having a great and fantastic time in Sentosa.
Please dont Assume, as we all know that Assumption is the mother of all F*&k ups!
So if someone invites you to the office or have Yamcha, just go for it and see the plan, visit our wonderful office, SPA and Showroom and do you own due diligence and find out about our business. The plan, product and the culture of SYn is the best and faster way for having a very successful and enriching life.
We never force anyone. We may be pushy but we never force. If someone were to force you just say no and move on. We just want to make your life more rewarding. Because when you make it, you will be glad that the person who brought you into the business cares for you and not your money. The comission we earn if you join is very low. But the turst we get from you is rewarding. this is a true way of network building, we build together, you are never alone. There are some irresponsible members who just do it for making the fast buck, they are the ones that tarnish our reputation. i dont deny that this is happening. So as I said before do your due diigence, an join the correct team that has the business mindset and the one that cares for you and your family. and dont ridicule you for the car that you drive.
Cheers..
Thanks for your comment wiser. I respect what you do just because of how you talk here. Seriously I do think that LB should have some control on their members. Some of them really talk in a rude way like those posted here. If every member can communicate like you, I think there won’t be so many anti LB around these days..
I also hope that too.. but i don’t deny that there are rotten apples out there.
Thank you…
Wiser
i dont know much about LB after all but from what read and some my reserah over the forum n website i found out that “The people who usually create the ngeative image in this what so call MLM, usually is the GREAT LOSER, Y? one thing for real they join the MLM because they are GREEDY and think they can’t earn BIG MONEY by just dreaming, it’s required HARD work, this is not “skim cepat kaya” you din’t work you din’t earn money.. so Y i say YOU ARE GREAT LOSER because don’t blame others neither the COMPANY NOR the PRODUCT.. blame YOURSELF because YOU have a LOSER ATTITUDE in YOURSELF..
I agree with neutral y you join if at last you blame others when you can’t make it, it’s your choice not to join no body forcing you.. you have your own decision… invest or not invest is depend on you.. when you can’t make it y you blame other and what if you can’t make it?
I got 100k worth of Lampe Berger Lamps wanna sell at 40% of its original price… much cheaper than any where else.
Anyone interested to buy some ?…
Plz leave a message if wanna buy… have eye sore looking at those stocks at home !!
Sorry, not 40%..
All LampeBerger Lamps to sell at 60% off…
Dear All LB MEMBERS,
I know that the plan works, logically speaking you guys are selling the ‘concept’ and not the ‘product’ as per say. It is the concept of MLM that generates tons of money in and not so much of a stupid lamp. U sell the concept to A and A sells it to B and so on n so forth… thats how it works right? And where does the hard work comes? Not by convincing ppl to buy the lamp, but to convince them to convince others in order to rake up all the big bucks there is in the market. If A can convince B to convince C and C to convince D to convince D… can u imagine how much of money A is actually banking in? Fuck the lamp.. the lamp is just a show.. WHERE DOES THE HARD WORK LIES? u can see for urself.. the hard work lies in convincing others to join.. thats the hardwork.. not so much of selling the lamps. I know u guys spend minimum time talking bout how good the lamp is and etc.. but maximum time on how does the plan works… like i mentioned ealier. Its a good plan to make money but the sad part is PPL are taking it as a shortcut to sucess and what happens after that? PPl start to borrow money from loansharks, broken families all over, ppl will start to steal , beg and borrow and etc.. cannot imagine. Oh well, thats’ all for my comment on LB.
Im not anti Lb ..infact im interested in this business…and honestl;y dat guy with da name Anonymous and d other guy with all da FUCK words aa..ur embaressing US u know….most of the ppl in SYN are educated ppl…why la..if u disagree with wateva they say just keep it to urself n prove to them they r wrong instead of LYING TO OTHER PPL THAT U HAVE A BMW or wadvea…bcoz clearly with ur aatitude u dont seems like sumone that can make big money lo my dear.
so yea pls…dont…act like ur sum kind of rocker ..have sum moral values pls. TQTQ.
good comment peaceout… hopefully u can keep up this attitude when u started doing this business. We who anti LB is just because we’re tired of all those lies.. if u can be honest with the whole thing, people will eventually accept it..
ilove lb
Wow, After read all the blog seem like many of them are still not understand in MLM industry. Any kind of biz have positive & negative. Just like me, actually I m from IT line & i just open an IT shop using 150000, but after run it for 1 year, I keep up adding money for maintain, then what happen? Actually im trying to tell tat, I buy monitor a unit for bout 300 just for earning RM10 then have to stock up bout 500 unit but still no one bane….. but now when i joint mlm for 30k all my friend & family scold laugh at me. than after tat i use 2 month to earn back the money, now im making RM8000 a month, when i buy a new car back, all my ralative say i want to show off. Taiko, if somebody earning for over RM7000 still want to drive kancil?? just want to buy a car tat confortable. & yes i buy a bmw 3series at the age of 23,just my network flood to indonesia, hong kong & sabah. I m not saying im success but think carefully & make research… if Lampe Berger is a scam, sure our goverment will do some thing bout it. Im also super band direct sell but i just do research by my self. if i didnt do tat, i think i still doin my biz tat not making money. Hope everybody think carefully, understand it 1st, dun join it strait away, do research then u will understand. So thanks & Good day…
Hopebaby r u Marquis?? wow… ok…. just want to add tat…. If we can brainwash somebody, i dun think i will join mlm, I want to rule this world…. if we can brainwash some one…. do i need to talk to somebody for several hour just to make he/she understand, why not i just take hee/his brain to wash …then WALLA…. a new LB member in just 3 minute…… i just join SYN for 2nd month & I already take back my RM30k in just a month…. im now C/M & hope tat can be a duke by next year…..so wat can i say?? put effort in it & u will get it . If not, eat urself. Even having million but not hadworking. The end of day will be the same, no money. So believe in urself & not blamming other …..
eh meng hua, i think u shud del those msg tat cuss ur family. i did quite a similar post on it some time back. my fren ask me join also,he said “they can let u conquer melbourne base”. then i felt so ‘high’… and then i tot.. ‘wtf.. world if got so easy money…steve jobs eating grass ok?!”
onli those lazy fucks join lb and hope to make some money. and then ask ppl ‘if u got guts come to our office lar’… tat’s coz u think ur ‘big guys’ up there still hold ur ass for u. if u tell them one day u dun haf the $ to ‘upgrade’… then u’d haf to lick ur ass clean.. and lick ur own sorry ass.
im damn glad i din join…. coz i asked my fren ‘hey wheres ur bmw?” his answer is simple. Fuck LB.. go get a job
well there’s good and rotten apples out there. Why should I del those msgs? No I won’t delete them. The more they write those cursing comments, the more people will aware of what kind of people that join LB.
If your own business are being criticized by a lot of people, what will you do then? You try to improve and see why people criticize you. Not like these people. They only know how to curse others’ families. Still, LB is consider as a profitable MLM business IF you really work hard on it. Don’t simply join because of the money you might earn. Think of the commitment and effort that you will put in as these are the main things that make you earn 5 digits per month.
p/s LB=Lose Big…. i think you’d get better odds at betting football lar.. Take Arsenal
Hor meng hua?
football betting not my cup of tea.. lol.. I support Chelsea but really disappointed with their performance lately. opps.. Off topic here…
well, i read all the posted thingy, and i am gonna join LB tomorrow as a franchisee, but i really cant believe there are such ppl like fucking around , and acting so cocky without moral value, er i just some kind of dissapointed, i does felt LB plan is really great, thats what i think,
and i read alot and lot of anti LB stuff, because if i just read on the success, i wouldn’t know whats happening back then,
well i can say that there is less than 5% ppls are saying good about LB! and yet , i din’t change my mind, ill join LB tomorrow , and work it out ! i am over confidence all the time, i cant fail this, i’ve never fail in my life, whateva i wanted to do, i made it till the best, cant be the best is okay, atleast better than the good,
and yet i am not a franchisee at this moment, what i can say to all LB members, i know i have no right to educate u guys,
but i have to for my sake! i am really positive and freethinker, so please as a LB member, behave(spelling problem) yourself, and grown up,
i am from a very rich family, and i got 38k a month from my dads in canada, and the money in my bank can last till the next generation, i works for my brothers, and yets i dont have to join LB for money, and whats u guys were saying BMW all stuff like that, and yes i believe u buy it by working it out, sorry to let u know your attitude doesn’t suit the brand BMW nor mercedez, maybe evolution something like skyline suit u more instead of those car!
and lastly, i appriciate EVERYONEs here thats posted ! although i learn nth atleast i know something whats goin on! ill give it a try for this from the position as a franchisee, cheers LB members!! ^sorry for any offence although i dont really care it does offence or not^
hei you alll Lb ppl, dont suck ppl money by cheating them… F.. u
my brother was cheated by them, invested rm30K for nothing, they promise if he cannt find member, then they will pay back all those money, but they only will return 90% of the initial amount. by earning 10% of it, they already laugh at it, earning money by cheating ppl, FUck u LM
my brother was cheated by them, invested rm30K for nothing, they promise if he cannt find member, then they will pay back all those money, but they only will return 90% of the initial amount. by earning 10% of it, they already laugh at it, earning money by cheating ppl, FUck u LB
Hello, i love http://www.m3nghua.com! Let me in, please
aihz….jz go to dis blog and read about it if u wanna complain about LB again….everything and i mean EVERYTHING (bad good….u name it) is there….
http://www.suanie.net/2006/04/05/on-lamp-berger-and-mlm/
btw, blogger is not a member i think…..well, doesn’t sound like a member though…anyways…all i can say is DO RESEARCH 1st before talking like Mr. Know-everything-about-mlm-and-network-marketing-and-basically-is-i-am-too-smart-to-say-anything-la
Its pretty sad to see all the bad mouth LBer running their dirty show in ppl’s blog… Now I haev no doubt about the reason why LB is so much labelled as a scam. Personally I don’t see any problem with MLM, it is a variant from conventional business and obviously there will be people who can’t or refuse to accept the concept. End of the day, we need money to maintain a life, or the lives of our family members, and people who can foresee the better outcome from business and investment will most likely work their own asses till… say age of 55, and still unable to achieve much success. MLM is NOT a shortcut to success, it is a way of business, it is like when franchising McDonalds but paying low to own a business system. It is great for people who are able to work hard and commit but unable to pay large amount of upfront setup fees like conventional business does. And LB is one of such opportunity which can help you succeed in business and yet improving your health by utilising the products.
And I obviously have no hard feeling to anti LB individuals, running their mouth or not, they are simply throwing out their own thoughts. It is just like someone who love watching soccer, while the other one telling them that basketball is the real sport. I am a LB distributor, I am proud of what I am doing because I belive in this business and I will keep on doing what I can to help myself and my recruits to build a better tomorrow for working on thsi business.
And for those who thinks working > MLM… think deeper, think harder. Are you really paid fairly by your boss? While you comment that the uplines are basically sitting in the office and conning the downlines money, what about the big bum that sits above you while you working your ass day in day out 5 days a week and yet achieving little financial and career wise? Are you sure the Canon digital cam that you bought from the shop is not over priced? Well it might not be from the shop, but what about Canon itself? Isn’t it earning billions for selling the digital cam because of its brand and earning the lots with huge profit margin? You can argue that its a genuine product, but why would you say LB and Estabelle aren’t while they exist for more than 100 years? Do you guys know the existence of aromatherapist, which mean that aromatherapy has claimed their very own effectiveness in health?
I can’t say more about negative people are obsessed in infusing negativity to the others. I don’t think I can help any of you more but just to wait until you find out what you do and what you think are basically not enough to have a life, a good life. Isn’t that simply what we want?
Well, not ALL SYN members encourage people to start joining as a count like my team. We prefer you moving as a franchisee as u will learn more about the company and the business, and at least you are a more ‘qualified’ count than those who invested and does not put any effort about. There ARE certain teams under SYN who do encourage people to join as count, we ourselves don’t agree with that, but then, its their team way of doing. My team are all talking about teamwork and effort, not jz investing n shaking your balls thinking you will be rich. There’s no free lunch in this world.
In response to the msg above posted by a SYN member, all I can say is… well put
I think ppl just get misunderstood that by joining this business its then an automated process to become rich… which is entirely wrong. Its all about teamwork, building up business knowledge, working hard on the network, developing leadership, and ultimately achieving wealth.
By all means we are trying to become wealthy people, but certainly there are ppl who want to become wealthy because they are lazy and treating this as a get rich quick process, whereas others who want to become wealthy becoz they want to look after their family and themselves better and to reach financial freedom. And unfortunately negative thinking ppl in the community only focus on the insult of the former group of LB distributors.
Look at it in a different perspective, you will understand the business in a different way.
LB can do. dun worry~.
I was persuaded by a friend to join LB. He was very supportive & patient even though I said ‘no’. But once I showed signs of giving in, he became quite persistent. I’ve been to the office, seen their plan, talked to ‘big’ guys but this plan doesn’t seem to work for me. What really freaked me out is their ‘cheer’ during LB events. No doubt, the people there are extremely friendly, but I want to get out of this all! I can’t seem to escape. I don’t want to lose this friendship too. Damn lost& confused here!Help!
Hey Nic, my advise to you is, say no to your friend. If he insists you join this thing, just stop contacting him. You don’t want to lose this friendship, but the moment he insist you to join LB, your friendship is over. Sometimes you have to be a bit selfish though, if you don’t want to join, just say no. Its not because you want to help out your friend. The whole thing is about you can or cannot do this business. If its not suitable for you, tell him “no”. And tell your friend if he still want to be friend with you, stop talking about LB with you. Good luck~!
go to jln pasar and buy cheap imitation at rm15.90. then buy any fucking oil u want and u have your own ‘lampe-berger’… oh.. u guys talking about the mlm issit? hahahha.. sorry wrong crowd..
and how u know the lampe-berger diffusers dchl or wateva these mlm bozos are selling are the real deal anyways? in malaysia even phones have different types, AP, underwater and wat not… how the fuck we know these are not imitations? go low yat buy nokia battery rm 50 oso packaging like original nokia wat.. fuckin rm1000 for a fucking air purifier is fucked up to me.. and the stuff smell like kemenyan some more. might as well we use our original and traditional stuff tat we already have for hundreds of yrs. (eg. colok, kemenyan).. those are air-purifiers/diffusers as well.. just dont smell tat nice lor.. so just make new types lor.. kiwi scented or durian scented can wat.
cmon malaysians. wake up and DO something. while u mlm fuckers trying to make money, us real ppl with real jobs making better money than u. y? money-management/time management dudes! tats the key to wealth.
unless u got a new mlm product then open another mlm bisnes lor, then u can be like that steven dude oso..
piece out and rock on malaysians!
these wankers are all arguing abt the mlm.. not one person actually asking abt the product itself.. hmm..very interesting.. guess idiots will always be idiots.. mention money abit, then if selling shit also dont care.
HI,
To retire count or marquies (or duke),
I would like to buy old (or retire) stocks of “pyrethre” at 5-10% lower of Marquies’s price. I can take up to rm10000 stocks.
interested email me : bqt@30gigs.com
No Lamp please, just the oil.
regards
Mayb all of u should read this.
This is coming from a man who knows his stuff in business and simple economics logic.
Anyone care to rebutt the mentioned logics? Please, I’m only talking to those ‘educated’ LB ppl only. The ‘fucks’ ppl can keep on fucking, your fucks will not have an effect on me.
http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html
Hey…I am an Lb member…eventhough I didnt read all of it but pls allow me to state some of my thoughts. I dont deny the fact some ppl are cheated in to it n some failed in it even though not by being cheated.there is ntg wrong with the system as where other then lamps and the promotion items.all can be refund 90% or more. and to those lb members out dere…trying to scold the anti lampeberger steven yip. u guys are being cheated by him to scold our very own steven yip as his name is definitely not the real thing. there is ntg wrong with the system in lb but it is some of the way
the entry fee is only 150 infact mind u all. the 2345 is actually wannated us to sell the product so dat we can understand it b4 we start frenchising themwhile some other ppl who arent really smart or too obidient or naive wanna pay 30K thinking bout going to count is a waste of time. why not earn 30k n b a count or work your way til u got 30k only u pay instead of borrowing it n lay a big burden on urself.I am not a fan of lb or wat ever.I’m from another mlm company n I’m still studying the market.try to look at DCHL as amway. it started of with a floor cleaning product from the states or america wat ever. but now they have advanced to more products n are succesful now. like dchl…they are coming with more products like estabel which is not alot or totally but at some point better then artistry from amway. I hope to see a futhur in this bussiness. and the aroma lamp does work even if it doesnt purify which meant following the video is true. it gives the smell to activate our hormones to counter the conditions we may have n it really repels insects.herbs n plants have chemicals to activate our hormon like in the chinese medicine shop.my dad is a nutritionist him self n he actuallly test it b4 telling me stuff like dat as he hopes dat I would take over him 1 day
he is involved in a nutrition that can help cancer patients to treat their conditions
the company also spends up to 15% of their profit in to research and development is you didnt noe.the lamp alone is not expensive bcuz of the difusal as the coal is not ordinary coal like we can buy outside 1 packet for 10 bucks or so…it is a higher density coal made through many process.eventhough not all ppl can do dis business but every 1 should now or can noe bout it…I too started off in amway noeing ntg…I noe ntg bout amway…lots of ppl I noe is already in amway…names are already out for amway…n its been here for 30 years…n guess wat…when I recieve my pay check for it…I’m happy…I’ve got a fren which joined lb the same time I did for amway…n we did about the same amount of effort but his paycheck is more den mine…I’m thinkin of crossing over now.
I’m always free to both sides and I wont mind any criticism which u can support by actual facts
sorry…missed the not an LB member
erm,i really confused with all this hype up lb thingy. firstly if it is such a great product,why is it not in the conventional market? they should at least try to branch out the product to consumer through better marketing and sales of products,if only to get trust and loyal/prospective customers.i have yet to see the sales of lb on shelves of department store.if thats too degrading for the product(even dior n versace are sold in metrojaya), then they can at least open up boutiques as a promotional ground for their products.no harm done right.after all the company is earning shitloads of money.what is a little promo booth gonna hurt your income.it will only get you more recognition for your products.
then there is this ‘wasiat’ thing i heard in lb.that if u kick the bucket, you can let your family members inherit your position in lb.the rank, down lines and everything you have achieved in lb will go to your nearest kin or friends if you have stated in your will?!
and also,this family member of mine had joined lb for like 4 years already.she had ask me to join and introduced me to a few people.for example,one of them is an ex-owner of a law firm and he was one of the person to write the ethical codes and conduct for lb.he was also responsible for the drawing up of the prospect/new distributor form.
i did not get to ask many question as he was busy that day(he was a guest speaker at NDO 2007), but i do wonder why a successful lawyer who read law oversea and personally owned a law firm joined SYN…
I’ve seen some boutiques that is selling LB products, but it’s hidden in some corridor where most people won’t walk to in the shopping mall. Most products turn to MLM when they don’t perform well on shelfs. So you know what I mean here right?
Your example is actually nothing new to us. They can tell you all kind of experience they have.. working as lawyer, engineer, high executives.. I can bullshit those things also!
But all in all, this business depends on your hard work. Without hard work but only dreaming, you will end up becoming those being “scammed”. These victims actually take responsibility on being scammed because they never think of the hard work that they need to put in but just day dreaming that they will earn a lot of money…
u all people got no life, if u all wanna blame someone or something, please make sure you have facts!
a company which awarded the super brand and have a 5 years licent is a scam, what the hell you trying to show people?
you think the government is idiot?
you are the only smart guy?
you don’t have the guts to invest such money, don’t blame people who invest is idiot,
they are willing to change, even they can’t succeed in the business, they are still nuch more better than U!
After reading all this, i found out SOME of Lb ppl only knows how to use vulgar words just because we anti-LB. Well, I used to be LB member and not even invite any of my friends because i always think before i act. I joined just being FORCED by friendship. Honestly i wouldn’t say who is right or who is wrong…because both parties also will have positive & negative thinking.
I’ve decided to quit just because the friends that i used to work with exactly not the same person that i know. In their mind, only money not friendship. That’s why i couldn’t see my friends being wasted money for nothing…Last time i also love LB so much and can earn money. And i argue with family. Since the day i quit LB, my friend ask me when am i going return him the money (RM100 only) Only RM 100, he keep calling and sms me to meet up and return him the money. They use friendship to lure people to join lb like menghua said.
Those talking about Mr.Donald Trump and bla bla bla…They are rich because of his smart thinking and running a ethical business. He work hard to get what he want. Nothing comes easy. and yea…nothing is free.
Frankly speaking, i’m from poor family (not that really poor like kampung boy lar…medium like that lor…)In our life we do need money but not that important than friendship. To me, friendship is extremely important for me…Luxury house? Ferrari car? Sounds great to have one, can you imagine if you’ve lost all your friends & family, alone in the house with the maids. RM30 also enough for me to use for 1 day shopping with friends watching movie and having meal happily. Greed only will lead us to black hole. It just like SATAN’s plan. Eventhough i’m busy & stress whole day working, but still happy working with my mates and my guests (eventhough they are choosy).
Btw, you decide your own decision.
dun argue lah….LB is no wrong…..
onli is the people inside LB.have wrong minds..and thinking….or right understanding…
tat y…so many people dislike LB….
actually….cannot force people to join…
it is kind of business…people have their right whether wan join or dun wan…..
I really dont know why they are so many ppl donating their/parents hard-earned money just bcoz of some cock stories those lame asses told. dont u all see the picture so clearly ? Common LB Posers Sign :
1. Chinese-educated youngsters dressed in suits (they thought they were cool
!!)
2. Driving their lifetime achievement,a BMW to show-off (thats the cheapest 2nd hand car they could merely afford for downpayment).Thats not what a person who earn at least 10k per month drives
3. Attending talks/convention at Sunway Hotel & etc such as the one they had at Sentosa Sg(heard that it sucked and lame)
4. Boasting of 5-figure STEADY income
(this is the killer lure). Their money comes from new member’s joining fee, so if no new downline = no money. Is it that steady ? Is it that easy to convince someone to throw in rm 2345 or rm 30k ?
I pity those who helped their upline to become marquis, congratz to him but what about his downline?? hard work eh to pump rm 400,000 for the company in few months time. how much more 400,000 can u guys pump for the next downline to challenge marquis? Steven Yeam is enjoying his wine with some bitches sucking his cock while u guys conning ppl to join in and fill up his bank account. dreaming to be like him one day ? well DREAM ON.
ITs very stupid to buy the count status because when u want to challenge marquis, u dont have any downline to do it for u. u still need to find the same amount of ppl to sell off ur 30k worth of lamps,so indirectly speaking u are buying advanced stock from them.
Stop being a faggot and face reality, alot of ppl are laughing at u coz of the way u handle this ‘business
‘. Its so childish to talk ppl in by showing off what u have (maybe not even urs). And they are always in button up /long sleeve shirt to act like a ‘professional’. You can tell if someone is really making alot of money and enjoying his comfortable life. They dont boast around and when ppl ask about their job, it defenitely wont be some mlm shit.
I’ve got some friends who are in LB as well, there’s nothing much i could do to advise them but to let them experience and fall once in order to wakeup and learn. rm 2345 is ok for a lesson but rm 30k is just way too much. some even quit their job and do full time LB. what can u do in menara HLA ? just wait for new victims to walk in and start ur brain washing session. I think they spend more than they can earn coz everytime have to go out and ‘meet clients’ yamcha few times a day
I’ve heard alot of stories from their upline, mainly telling u how important for a secure future, earn money without working, flexible time bla bla bla … DUHH, everybody wants that but how sure are u LB will GUARENTEE all that? Come on, flip thestar and get a real job, start somewhere.. at least u will really have some basic money coming in every month. Make your parents proud ! Its very hard for them to raise u up, dun listen to ppl’s flowery words and be greedy. IF u are selling products then its acceptable, but now LB’s selling point is ‘business’ and the lamp is used for coverline (what an asshole). In other words, u get a cut from ripping ppl’s joining fee, not commission from the product itself.
And for the LB supporters or members who fuck here fuck there in this post, please ask urself honestly how much are u really making now every month ? how many downlines u have ? are ur downlines making money as well, u selfish bastard ! HOW OLD ARE U ALREADY ?
Dont target young college students, they are the most innocent victim of all. Being naive and wanna make money before they even graduate, this seems to be the best water fish. To all the students out there, when someone wanna talk business with u and say u can make 5-figure income very fast, show them both ur middle finger and shove it up his ass. Study hard and focus,dun be tempted with some kid’s lifestyle or ride, im sure u can do better in future by urself.
The worst scenario ive seen is that someone actually gets personal loan from bank or ah long . Shit! So young already wanna get black listed by bank negara or kena splash red paint outside ur house ? if it happens will ur upline come save you? we’ll see ……..
I’ve been very free lately and browsed through dchl’s main website .. u guys might wanna check it out at http://www.dchl.com.my/English%20Version/BizOpp_MarquisMalaysia2006.asp …… click on every month and u will see the number of marquis decreasing and on november last year only ONE member got promoted. there’s none so far for this year(2007). Seems like their business is down the drain now but what the fuck do the dukes care right ? they already made so much money and how good if somehow the money could be refunded to those who got terribly conned.
I am disgusted, or rather quite entertained, to read certain comments made by pro-LB ppl. Saying you guys educated..earning 5 figures…drive nice cars… is totally an understatement. You guys are certainly the best. Clad in reluctant shirts and blazers, amplifying to others how much you earn, are just a mere demonstration of immaturity and a total pest to the community. I wonder what sort of language is being used to conduct those LB convention etc… For all that i could read, seems to show that only vulgar words, nothing more than the infamous ‘F’ word, is used. Hey, at least use a mixture of vulgar words la. Kudos to you all. Keep it up. To the pro-LB ppl, well, you guys probably can’t even figure out the comment i posted is actually against you or not.
a good fren of mine invited me to times square today… said got surprise for me…then when i go there… he said there is a businness conference is on over there… so i think i’d be good for me to join cos i can learn businness for extra knowledge… i even paid 20 BUCKS for it… then when the even started… oh shit!! it’s steven yeam’s giving speaches saying that he juz converted hundreds of ppl half of the world to millionaires… if it’s so effective, y not everyone quit studies in universities n do this so called “network marketing”…they even encouraged students to join!!!! saying that it;s not good to rely on parents money to study… their target is students n those ppl with low pay n desperately in need of money… it’s a totally scam to those who’s greedy enuf to get rich fast! haiz…dissapointed cos being betrayed by a good fren who wants to earn money…..
zzz speechless…. if the steven guy is a damn good in making money, how come i neva come across his name in wealth club of malaysia?? not even the richest man in the world or asia cos he said he earned 7 figures which is at least a million USD in a month????
hai..whatever it is..being a family member of SYN..is the best thing i ever had in my life..To all SYN member..we are champion!
JUST DO IT..!
did i read… ”whatever it is”…”champion”…”just do it” ? Typical SYN jargons. Or shall i say, only typical SYN members who somehow decipher these moronic jargons as something positive. Positive? Yeah positive enough to fool innocent individuals. So Sarena, there really isn’t a need to publicise and promote your immaturity and your thoughts about SYN is nothing but just being ”champion”, ”whatever it is” and ”Just do it”. Wake up, get alive, be a respectable person to say the least. Or not, for whatever it is, just do it and be a champion, be a SYN, or rather SIN.
Some have positive some have negative,
For those anti just be more polite and voice out the fact and experience
For those LB member, I think not all LB is lame right? I believe some might get the what so call 5 figure driving a bmw. But I can say is, you can earn but hard to maintain every month. Let say your bmw installments for 9 years, at least RM1400 in a month, Not to say those luxury meals, attire and lifestyles. Family? house maybe, wife for those married…Basically the income is not stable…and risky. I’m not a LB member or anti LB. I even argue with my friends for not joining. Some they really can drive a BMW but last for 4-6 months because their downline not working properly. Some can’t achieve anything and back to study plus wasted 2-3 years time.
So it is very subjective here. If you say can’t why some people can make it. If you say guarantee, but why some can’t.
But The way they push people is unethical way. I believe doing with LB either you get money or you loss your friends as the first people you will ask to join this network is your friend. If you push too hard, they will ignore you. If you don’t push, then you earn nothing.
So think properly, whether this job is suitable for you before joinning. Don’t just blindly join because of 5 digits, BMW – Those thing won’t last long if you not hardworking and sacrified your friendship maybe some family as well..
i am, again, amazed with so many non-LB members, at least the ones who posted here, who still remain so polite and speak educatedly to these rude LB members, as shown by their previous posts. Good stuffs there, Max!
So LB members, stop being one-sided and be more reasonable.
You won’t want to end up in a scam just like the recent SMS Scam by AKN Mtech.
Pai Kiah Uncle Lim is all behind it.
Check it out at http://mobilebedsidenews.blogspot.com/
just to reinstate… LB still sucks big time!
Shame on all LB Members!
if you ever wonder why ur cars got stolen, you can find the Banks! hahaha!
I have joined LB before, and therefore i think i can add my 2 cents both when i was inside, and when i left.
I spend more than RM50,000 during my time in the business, and made about the same amount. When i was inside, i was pretty blinded by the promises made and potential of the limitless market.
why I left? simple, i simply cannot continue a business where so many of my friends didnt make any money, even though they follow the system to the dot. Let us face it, no two person are alike. To claim that just follow the system and u will be rich is not true. Not everyone has the same amount of friends, the same capital, the same energy, the same attitude etc.
And we shld also understand that when we have ppl who can afford Rm30K and ppl who cannot, this is no longer a level game. MLM is supposed to be level player to everyone. How can it be level game when the entry level is from RM2345 to RM30K? Can anyone honestly tell me that ppl who put in RM2345 can be as successful using the same method as ppl who invest RM30K? Their contacts are different, and the way to motivate them may be different.
Frankly, if u look at the future of a business, just look at the dropout rate among the top acheivers. Don’t look at the bottom level, because drop out rates will be high in any industry, whether mlm or conventional business. In LB, I have seen many Dukes (including my own) who stopped doing the business. If your motivation is to achieve the level of Duke, and we have people who are already at that level who quit – something must be wrong somewhere. If Duke is so good, why do they quit? I am not talking about 1 or 2. Do some reseach, and see how many of the Dukes are still in the business. Are they in the events just to show face, or are they still actively in the business? I know a few who are there to show face, but no longer active like before. Not that they are so rich, they are retiring, but they are going back to their own businesses or careers.
Before u join, ask what you rally want. Are the people who u look up to already acheiving what they said they are doing or is it just a show?
Think then act. If everything went well, congratulations. But if something goes wrong, take full responsibilty and move on.
hope this help
it certainly helps. thanks for the advise.
and i also heard that Uncle Lim Seng Boon of AKN Mtech, father of all sms Scams, also in lampe berger.
i love lampe berger. muach lb. wakakakka
u franchise oni issit? when become marque? when la?
in your dreams perhaps… go on with your con jobs man…
Anyone know sidekick or marquis Wendy?
He pulled one of my friend to be his down line and now that friend of mine is asking me to join him and when i said that i`ll see first cos i do not have that much money to join, they say that they will meet my parents and tell me a way that is to borrow money from your parents, with that money in brunei, i can buy a second hand car and drive to anywhere i want.On the other hand, when they are introducing the dchl marketing plan they didnt tell us anything about the distributor but straight away with franchisee which costs about RM2300+.i was shocked when i saw the marketing plan in the anti lampe berger blog site.
Come on man,where got you join member must load your stock in an instance, where got people do business less than a year or two can buy ferrari, BMW…,where got sales companies which does not expose their business plan(Marketing plan is how the scheme work and business plan is how u sell your things and plan your business based on your products) to non-members or people who r willing to join them?,they claim that they have dchl in malaysia but y not register straightly from the government as dchl but y as RZ company, when marquis wendy introduce this company to me, she does not show at least a duplicate license of the company’s registeration and if it is a normal company using the MULTI LEVEL MARKETING concept, it will mostly concentrate on their products, and expose of their marketing plans, business plans and whatever legal rights or patents and its membership fee is normal ranging from RM60-maybe at least less than 1000(My estimation)and also buy stock, dont want to buy stock your business, who cares.
So be careful then
Sori, forgot to mention, sidekick is a guy and marquis( a determined position in the dchl marketing system and wendy is a girl. In case, someone thought that it is the same person.
well… very well said except for the cars they buy…
BMW yes but ferrari? errr… i don’t think so, it ain’t easy to find 3rd…4th hand recond of the reconditioned ferrari around ler….
hahaha!!!
Pupet AKN Mtech Lim Seng Boon licking Indian s bully chinese competitors is what we call typical Malaysian business man. Successful Indian company help by s licking chinese.
hahahahaha well said.
what to do, some people just like to lick S.
bugger Paikiah HamChooNg LIM!!!! hahaha!!!!
hi i’m munes.I’m not anti LB or member of LB just some queris abt the marketing what i don understand here is r v buying the Lb lamp for more than 2k???is the main purpose of the company to sell the lamp or take money from one to another..as i know malaysia goverment is stopping all ebiz,is it another way to collect money from ppl by selling this lamp so tht there is a core product so that it will look like no hanky panky tricks behind it…to all LB members out there just to ask how long u r driving ur BMW/mers/porshe/ferrari???wht will happen to ur bm/mers/porshe…or ur helicopters when this is proven as a scam
sorry to be informed….bankrupcy will be declared…tht time no upline will show u how to make a millon to settle ur debts…
as long as there is a ppl from goverment higher level getting their share’s all this no problem…think abt wht happen to swisss cash and a lot of company involved in cash dealing..tis wil go till a-b-c till z..wht will happen z…still ur friend..
LB members pls show us ur bank balance n ur properties..pls
im the one who is so stupid invested 2.5k… but the actualy ammount is 2345k…see???? at the 1st place there are cheating the new invester,
upon joinin this bisnes i was requring to sign an application form and the important form, there is 2 seperate form. but my upline only present to me application form, not the important form, because at the important form(that idiot form u can get at the ground floor DCHL co.) there stated that u can get back ur whole money in 10days if im not satisfied in this bisnes..but they did’t tell me. the reason is so simple, they want me askin my fwen to join this bisnes, so that their network will become big and bigger…because i dun want to lose my fwen if the similar situation happen to them,i hang my account. my upline is so angry, they asked me to terminate my account, because if im still under him, their network cannot increased fastly.. No wonder la, they have to work, only with 4 people under him, supposely they can go for 5 people,,,, hahaha….
because of this reason my upline threaten to beat me if he found me anywhere…HEY, damn stupid, our country has a law.. if u beat me, see where u goin????? HAHA….im already makin a police report, if u not believe it u can check it in anywhere police station, there are alots of people being cheated by this MLM scheme….
to the new invester or anybody who interested to join this bisnes think again…if u want to lose ur fwen, ur family because of the bisnes that is not guarantee ur future.. go ahead.. im advise this, because i dont want this happen to anybody except me…so plzz..tell ur fwen and ur family, if they want to become rich there is no faster way, except they has to wotk hard, honest to people around them, and the most important things to the all DCHL members, if 2day u cheatin people, no wonder the nex day, u being cheated by the thousand of people around u, think again…..
p/s
there is no other ways to stop this unethical bisnes….except u
tellin ur fwen, ur relatives about this bisnes,
there is no other ways to become rich easily,
everything comes from GOD,
if there is nobody join, this bisnes will stop there..
RIP LAMPE BERGER
guys, don trust LB. i was almost cheated by this money suckers once. when i refuse to join this SUPER BIZ due to financial issue, and you knw what they suggest? ‘USE YOUR CREDIT CARD’…. shame on u LB…its all about MONEY MONEY MONEY…when i ask how they invest all this money…and they just said its confidential..billshit….better invest in Public Mutual…..
hahaha..stupid LB….it is true…
they said that their marketing planing is very good and cannot open to anyone, unless u have registered…what kind of bullshit there.
ALL of u surely want to know..what there are going to teach u after all of u invested.
1stly, they ask u to TIP up DCHL co.to ur friends only after ur fwen have come to their office( is it righ LB memeber out there) HEY, if it is a very good co. no need for u la, to tell other people, there can know theirself.
2ndly. dO prospect..this is the form that u have 2 write and send to your upline, before u take ur beloved fwen to level 3A…
3rdly….says something sweet and ask the naive people to join this bisnes…
HAHAHa…after that u will listen how many figures thier income.5..6..haha.
HOI!!! damn stupid, if ur income is guarantee 5 figures per month..equal to 10,000 to 99,999…
no need for u to come to HLA co, everyday..WHAT???? golden triagle…
if my income is confirm 5 figures per month, im goin holiday everyday, and enjoy every single moment, no need for me to come to that idiot place, wasting my time until late night..
so cruel ask naive people money for ur own benefit..and the only rich man is SYN.
..LB members listen, 1 day when the govt ban MLM marketing, u will see, u have nothing, except ur dreams…
haven’t decided whether to join or not since the money required is quite
a lot.my fren even took out a bank loan to do this..sheesh,,..thats a bit risky,ey???this is an MLM company, of course, but not all mlm companies are scam schemes.its just that it requires a lot of hard work at convincing other people to join in as well to make money for yourselves..but LB does give a fair oppurtunity to everyone to make money, as long as u can convince at least 5 people to join in and invest their hard earned money.hehehehe…thats the catch..to all u doubters of LB, y dont u go to the main HQ office and find out for urselves?after reading all the comments, im pretty sure most of u dunno what ur talking about.for me to be fair, since im not an LB member, i find the company legal but risky in terms of investing my money.id rather put it in public mutual or others like it.unit trust.
HAHAHAHAHA….!!!!!
Rina, i have been there for 1 month,
DCHL co,menara HLA, no 3 jalan kian peng, 50450 kuala lumpur.
next to orrange club…WHAT??? golden triangle….
is it TRUE?????
when u going there, they will brain wash u, selling a dream in ur mind, actualy what they want is not ur money basicly, but ur fwen and close relatives to join their bisnes….
what kind of cheap bisnes… when u do bisnes, actualy u selling product, not people, so why u ask the new invester to find another 5 person…
Dear all i am new hear. i am surprise to know about this blog spot. But REMEMBER I AM NEUTRAL HERE IF WHAT I HAVE OFFENDED YOU I APOLOGIZE. I am LB member but i have to admit it is way to much to ask for 30k from someone. Well as for me i started from the lowest position which i invest on 2.5k but fuck, it is still hell lot of money, i can get get a PS3 with it. But now i am in a position that is worth RM 40k and for the last 5 month i earn about 10k. My opinion is that this business is ok so far, but what i am really sad about is that most of those in my net persuade peolpe that join to invest at around 40k. I don’t the word persuade is suitable but the word FORCE or PAKSA. I feel sadden when i see a challenge marquis force one person to invest 40k to become count so that he will be promoted into a marquis. Firstly that challenge marquis forget about the important 5 steps he learn. The very first one, SINCERITY. But what i like about the company is i can gain free knowledge especially at the convention but what i dislike most at the convention is that it is brainwashing. In the convention all i do at that place that worth RM 300 is nice and beautiful girls. And that is the best thing that had happen to me since joining the company. Any guys i am open if you give negative or positive feedback i am willing to read about it. I welcome negative feedback most.
brainwash…??hmm..i think whether anyone gets ‘brainwashed’ or not, its totally up to them.dont be so naive as to believe evertyhing anybody says.its not like anybody’s tortured and hypnotized into joining dchl/LB right??
people are widely concious about their decisions of joining in or not.cars, looks, clothes can be very deceiving.so do ur research, ask about every single aspect of the company that u dont understand.if u have doubt = dont join.think about ur own abilities and limitations first.
i dunno if any LB members are unethically promoting LB,if they are, then these new members are nothing short of victims and these things should be reported of course.but dont be sour if this venture/investment scheme didnt turn out well for u as expected (unless u were blatantly conned), because this is the way MLM works.u have to decide on ur own whether u can do this thing or not in the first place.AND OF COURSE people WILL sweet talk and sort of ‘persuade’ other people into entering, showing their expensive cars, their diamond accessories, whatever..but its our job to see behind all those layers and decide if we have the capability or the personality to shine in this MLM business.i mean,..we’re talking thousands here, not just a few RMs.
mr. anti lampe berger malaysia, u asked me y they need to find people and not just sell their products.well, THIS is y its called MLM.its the way the system is, whether u like it or not..if they are just selling products, they might as well open up a retail centre and be done with it and none of us would be discussing this issue here.truth is,some people make it in the MLM business, some people dont.its a fact.and its not illegal either in the m’sian law.for me, i know that i cant possibly find 5 people who’d want to invest rm2500 or more only to have them find another 5 people to be their downline.1 of the reasons y i didnt enter.i dont think this type of business suits me and i dont believe in their products that much.i think the perfume bottle design really stinks, and the perfume smell itself ain’t unique..but some people successfully thrive in this type of business and they make tons of money in this.but make no mistake about it,its very hard work actually.
nothing is free.anyway, having said all this,ive done some thinking,-ve and +ve aspects of dchl/LB,and decided not to join in for the time being, ive already put my money in unit trust.safer.happier.no worries.good luck all.chiow
To all people out there…
Dun trust DCHL…
First and foremost before i start, I would to start stating I’m not from LB. I am a network marketer from other company. The reason I’m writing here is not siding anyone but to clear the main purpose of companies doing their business MLM way. Main thing is to cut of middle-men to avoid any un-wanted price mark-up. For example, a tin of Coke is 70 cent [or less] from the factory, but after going through all the middle-men [wholesellers and etc] it becomes RM2.10. But no one complains because no one knows. Second is to cut of advertising fee whih doesn’t gurantee 100% worth of sale. A lot of companies actually spent millions a year to advertise, advertising doesn’t gurantee 100% sales. People actually found out the best way to advertise to through the word of mouth. So, they come out with, promoters etc. BUT someone found out that the promoters are not paid for what they do, still not many people believe them, and still the money goes to the advertising agent. Then MLM is born, it gives a win-win situation to everybody [this really depends on the company and they system though, my company and DCHL are one the examples]. Why win-win situation? You are paid when you introduce the product and sell to to anyone [even buying for yourself to consume is counted], the advertising fee is saved and given to distributors. It gives a franchise [franchise means a power to sell the products] to the distributors with a cheap cost. [Mcdonald's franchise is 1 mil, starbucks's is 500k], you don;t need to open a shop and pay rent and bills [you need a shop lot for a mcd though], you don’t have to hire anyone [you are the boss of your own]. That is the beauty of Network Distribution [I think the name already tells you alot]. Even Donald Trump, Bill Gates, Robert Kiyosaki and alot of rich man, supports the idea of network distribution. Even their own companies are run with MLM, but just bigger scale which need more cash to invest [more cash means millions/billions].
Now if you understand good for you, do some reading and research, its a chance for you to make a better living [BMW, sport cars, luxury houses are secondary, in my opinion the 1st priority of making money is to put food on the table for the family], if you stilll quite blur but want to know more, read up and research, seriously MLM is beautiful, if you don’t understand and still in the state of denial [I don't care actually], have fun working and keep on dreaming for a better life by doing the same thing everyday, with the powerful ego to not listen and learn new things and put an effort to sacrifice and change. Good luck have fun and I rest my case.
HELLO network marketer, the same COKE story told by every LB members in the DCHL. Why u guys don’t have any other 70Cent COKE story ah???? suck the Steven Yeam COCK la….
LB members are all fools! nuff’ said!
Its very obvious that you didn’t read my post properly. I’ve already said I’m not from lb. For your questions, allow me to ask you another question [provided you have the brain to understand, don't bother answering], do you know how much Maxis spent for advertising? Do you know how much profit wholesalers get for just fowarding products from factory to consumers? Is your brain functioning properly when you read my post? It’s damn obvious it is not [I'm just assuming it can]. And finally are you a very successful businessman or are you a very powerful hardworking shoe polishing dog?
PS: Don’t bother answering if you don’t wish to. this apply to others who read this, I don’t want to argue with empty tins.
what kind of cheap story, Mc D, Coke……
u only can said anything, but what is ur prove…
click to this one my fwen, here you will see, how much people will succed in doing this scheme.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme
i dare to challenge.
all Lb members,
if ur bisnes, ur marketing plan is very good, and ur income is 5-6 figures,
why all of u not publish ur bisnes to the mass media, eg. newspaper, Television by advertising it.
by doing so, u can ask thousand of naive people out there to join this bisnes…HEY, Mcd and coke also advertise maaa…
HAHAHa…u afraid rite. They dare to spent huge money because of their products and servises quality is good,
if ur income is 6 figures, bape sgt la nak advertise ur product at media kan. why all of u don want to advertise..
what kind of cheap bisnes…
let see, how long can u go idiot people, one day all of u will realise, that u have nothing, except ur dream, and what Steven Yeap do??????? catch hot chicks, drive ferari, and all of u working so hard and get nothing..
Damn stupid
To the 2 up there, start reading business magazines, not HOT or Gempak. Buy star, read the business section don’t see paris going to jail or not. Go online, go to business websites, CNN, to learn how rich people make money, not going friendster post love story bulletin. DCHL had been featured in Malaysian Business Magazine, Nanyang, Sin Chew, Star, forbes.com, etc. As for the Mcd and coke story, READ and reasearch yourself [provided if you have the level of intelligence to understand what the documents write], the prove is there. Ican tell you stories of starbucks, berjaya, YTL banks, etc on how they make money, but since none of you have the power to understand, writing this is already wasting my time. And for the advertising thing, you obviously didn’t read my post properly. oh wait, do you have a brain to understand it at the first place? I assume you don’t. Oh btw, if you have ever gone to college or university [if you can], didn’t your lecturer told you things in wikipedia are not reliable sources [I hope you understand what that means]?
read this
http://www.antidchl_lampeberger.blogs.friendster.com/
Saturday, July 21, 2007
Anti-LampeBerger Campaign
Please support this Campaign in Friendster at http://www.friendster.com/antidchl This is a campaign set up to prevent and to educate people from getting hoax into this company. There’s plenty of ways to earn money, but not from this! Please let everyone know.
i only dare to challenge lB members…
if u r not the one. just sit and keep ur mouth shut…
im only blaming Lb members not the other MLM co..
im sory for that,
ey network marketer,
I wish to understand your point of view but I just can’t seem to go that far back my buttock to see your perspective. Stop telling others how to use one’s brains if you yourself is just plain dumb. Don’t speculate your nonsensical thoughts here. Go read more books before you demonstrate your stupidity.
Yes, antilampbergerMalaysia, you’re right. Lampberger to die!
good reply ‘anti lampe berger malaysia ‘. SHAME on u LB members….
Dear mr/miss/uncle/aunty/abang/kakak anti-lampberger malaysia,
First, I want to thank you for helping me bring down my competitor. Second, it’s ok if you don’t understand, I don’t really care. Third, if you don’t understand what I’ve said, Good Luck and Have Fun bringing down DCHL ^^. You have my fullest moral support. I’m waiting to see you bring them down, chaoz. ^^
PS: Seriously, do proper reading from proper authors. Do proper research from proper sources and documents. I don’t want to see you get sued by DCHL for defamation [if you understand what it means]. ^^
Peace.
Network Marketer,
hahahaha!!!!!!
Can we all take some time off and laugh at this sad bugger??!!!
hahahhaaha!!!!!!
is that all you can say, network marketer? telling others to read more…asking others whether they understand what you meant….etc etc?
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand what you say Because what you said is nothing but nonsense!… or errmm…. bullshit? you know what it means? hahahhaa!!!!!
Stop contributing your dumb comments here. oh Wait? you’re leaving already? Leaving because you cannot compete us with Facts right?
Loser you, same with DCHL!
Lampberger to die!
Have you ever heard of Robert Kiyosaki? Donald Trump? Bill Gates? Read their books. Anyway, yeah, I’m not going to post my dumb pointless comments anymore, I’m taking my Z4 tomorrow, got no time to argue to with brainless idiots. Chaoz. And oh ya, good luck and have fun bringing down SYN. Try going to Sunway on 9th September to join our beach party. Bring the cops there also, say we are all conners. Bring your lawyer too, sue all of us. Use your good strong facts to sue us, OK? You have my support. Before that, try enjot our fireworks first la, don’t want waste. ^^
fgrgr
MLM??MLM..MLM..MLM…
WAT DA HEL IS DAT??
MY DAMN BESTFREN JUS CONVINCE MY 2 JOIN DIS BIZNES..
YUP..
I WILL GOIN 2 KLCC 24 AUGUS…
N C WAN ME 2 GET RM2500 4 DA STARTING..
BOUT DAT MONEY???
DAT NOT A OBSTACLE 4 ME..
DAT JUS A PIECES 4 ME….
I DONOE HOW 2 TALK BOUT DIS MLM???
I READ ALOT OF COMMENT HERE…
SAY DAT DONALD TRUMP,BILL GATE,AIRASIA…
SAY DAT MLM IS A GUD WAY OF BIZNES..
BUT DO U BLV 4 DAT???
DO U OL BLV WAT THEIR COMENT???
IF, SULTAN OF BRUNEI,LI KA SHING, Carlos Slim Helú, Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud…
IF DEY IN…THEN I IN…
BMW??MERCS??FERRARI??
IS DAT WAT U OL DREAM??
I DREAM MNORE THEN DAT…
I NEED CONQUER HUMAN SOUL..
I DON WAN MONEY..
N RULING DA HUMAN BEING…
SO IF DAT MLM CAN OFFER 2 ME…
THEN I WILL IN…
ABOUT DIS STEVEN YEAM..
WHO DA HELL IS DIS GUY???
DID DA RED NOE BOUT HIM???
IT SUCK…
COZ A LOT MY FREN WHO INVOLVE IN DIZ BIZNES A STDENT…
WAT DA HELL HAPPEN IN OUR SOCIETY???
YUP….IT GREAT 2 B RICH WHEN U STILL YOUNG…]
WHERE U GET DAT MONEY???DAT FUCKIN CAPITAL???
PARENT??SELL DRUG?>?
1 THING DAT I CURIOUS HERE..
ARCH..DUKE..BARON..
DO U OL NOE WAT DA HELL IS DAT??
SO DIS FRIADY….
MAYB PEACE UPON U OLL…
BORNEO MASONARY…
hahaha…
my fwen, read this comment from our beloved fwen here….network marketer
Aug 15th, 2007 at 1:45 am …
At the first place he said that he is not LB members, but on Aug 22nd, 2007 at 6:53 pm. and now he said he is LB members,
What kind people this is…. Yesterday while enjoying my diner, i saw 1 guy selling kerepek… my heart was touching because they try to find a money from a kindness and good ways, not try to cheat other people, HAHAHa, HEy, even they get only small amount of money at that night, and ride Honda Ex5, they get it from ethical ways,
i stil wondering, even u drive BMW, Celica, are u stil have a dignity,
would u ever feel shameless to the person selling kerepek, like i say jus now,
Think about it, if u can become rich through this bisnes, well done!!!!!!!!! but do u ever feel guilty when the person under u does’nt makes any money, and lose their money when they do this bisnes…
believe in KarMA,
stop posting ur dumb comments anymore mr network marketer???????
Thank u so much because u also not welcomed here, to LB losers out there, dont be so arrogant, when ur POTENTIAL BISNES is collapsed, u will see how u r going to face this world…
hahahaha hilarious man this network marketer.
At first denied, and now admit he is a member.
Oh, so that’s how DCHL teach their members. To be a Cheater!
Wahh!!! buy new z4 ar? Wow, superb man!
If i were you, i will quickly show the whole world and start conning as many people as you can before your z4 is towed back by the bank!!!!
hahaha!!!
let us all take some time off again and Laugh at this sad bugger!
by the way, i pity your parents who have given you all their hard earned savings to buy a z4! Shame on you, NETWORK MARKETER!
hahaha ey antilampbergermalaysia, this network marketer very ‘keng’ man…. can join lampberger so fast and in 2 weeks, he can buy a z4!!!! wahhhh!!!! super man this network marketer!
ey ey, network marketer, since you’re so truthful and all, why don’t you tell us your name la?
hahahhahaa
Attention to all people…
if u want to get rich easily, join LB, in few months u can buy luxurios car..
DAMN bulshit…
It is true my fwen LB_LB,
they are very good in creating stories…
we will see how far u guys gonna be..
came on lah…!!! this is how ur sifu, Steven yeam teach…
to be a cheater???
beter i take stephen Chow as my sifu, HAHAHAHA????
Shame on u la, u are wrong page to cheat people here…
anti lampe berger malaysia
yo dude…
i blv ol of us wan 2 b rich…
have big car..big house..even big boops..
but do our “LB N MLM FELLAS” here noe…
wat impact dey do 2 our country economy???
ya..govermen can get high tax from em..
BUT….
THINK IF OL MY BELOVED MALAYSIAN JOIN DIS MLM..
I DON NEED 2 xplain wat will happen…
i think anti lb msia noe aint u???
sell keropok lekor???
dat a biznes man..
aint cheap..honest..no force, i mean 2 da customer..
hahahahaha….
dude…
do ya noe wat my fren told me…
dis a high class biznes…
aint it wont b play in restaurant..or public..
it mus b in their office…
hey man…
dis jus away how they want 2 POISONING MY BRAIN…
y should b force ppl 2 join??
we live in democracy…
so enjoy it…
2 ol LUBANG BURIT N MENIAGA LARUT MALAM…
GIV YA FAMILY EAT WITH YA “HOLLY CHEDDAR”
KARMA….
Hey guys, there is a way we can do to take down LB once and for all.
They seem to have to MMA assurance thingy, which pays you 10 mil euros if the lamp do you any harm.
So is 100 people use and go complain got problem, means DCHL has to pay 1000 euros to the 100 people! Good investment man, and at the same time, take down those morthefarkers! see how they die when their company is gone!!
yeah man… lets do it.
LB to die die die!!!!!!
yeah i agree with u man, mr anti lb too…
but it doesnt work easily..
like our fwen said up there, about advertising, they found out the best way to advertise to through the word of mouth…
why dont we copy their marketing plan here to spread this story, and let our fwen and relatives know how bulshit they are..HAHAHAHAHA……..
HEY LB losers out there, our day will come soon…
seriously, I’m using it now, i’m gonna complain about it soon…i of course need help….need more testimonies
I’m not a distributor of DCHL, nor am I siding anyone. I am a consumer of Lampe Berger products. I just want to say that the products ARE good, and it IS products from France [I've been to France to ask about it]. Same goes to the other products DCHL is distributing. The SPA is fantastic as well. As for the business or marketing plan or whatever it is, I don’t really care. My friends do join the business, some are successful some are not, so I’m neutral when it comes to that. As a businessman myself, I see network marketing as another industry. If you say its inethical, I don’t really agree. Even insurance, property agents, restaurants, etc. too have inethical way to make their money. Why don’t you complaint about that as well? Why don’t you do that because you don’t know what the hell is happening that’s why. Or even illegal money lenders, drug distribution, etc. these are in ethical business as well, why not make a campaign to against it? Why you are not doing it? Coz you are scared of the druglords to chop you, or wait, you don’t even have the money to do so. I’ve been doing business for over 30 years, I know mindsets and the way I look at things are different, so, say all you want, I don’t care. My business is running, my money is coming, I’m just stating my point of view about this is because I’m disappointed to see youngsters nowadays only know how to eat and talk. Like what Network Marketer said, read more useful books, read business sections in newspapers. It is because of young f*cks like a lot of you, HOT magazine is making a lot of money by breaking into people’s private life, now you tell me that’s ethical or not. Yes, its just an old man who has nothing to do, talking his way here, but at least I have achieved something that gives me the right to give my point of view. But how about youngsters like so many of you here who don’t even dare to think of doing traditional business, talk about doing business here, sell kacang putih, open this open that? Do you how much work and money is needed to do a business? I’ll be suprised that you know. I used to be young, I used to be like a lot of you here, but along the road, you will understand what I’m talking about, if you even open your mind to everything. I apologise if I’ve offended anybody, I’m not saying I’m 100% correct. I’m just stating my point of view as a businessman, and a human being who is disappointed at the next generation, who are suppose to be the generation of the future.
-signing off-
what a sad story….
are u dare to use that money to feed ur child n wife??????
congrats…
im believes that all religions in this world ask their follower to find the money, without cheating…
i know, all LB members her are KIND, not cheating other people money, but how about ur downline???
if they are cheating people to join this bisnes, arent u get commision 4 wat they done.. ur 10%, 19%, 38%, u also get that money rite?????
if u not feel guilty to use that money, CONGRATULATION…..
dont remind us about about how we are going to face this world,
even though we are not rich, as what u stated alot of up there, that ur income is 5-6 figures(is it true or not, or it just ur dreaming)
but im hepy, because i still have the dignity, no find the money by making trouble to other people…. going to miror and see ur face first, before u want to remind other people….
Dear LB CONSUMER,
First and foremost, if you really had 30 YEARS of business experience, you wouldn’t even have had such shame to even utter such things. What you said does not justify your knowledge and experience but in return, only demonstrated your immaturity. Stop your dumb lectures on youngsters, there are many people here who had more experience than you. Come to think of it, I pity your children. Please tell them to join LB and teach them how to cheat. What a father! respect! hahaha!
Somehow, i got a feeling that you’re actually Network Marketer impersonating as LB Consumer. You and Network Marketer, probably the same person, are the biggest laughing stock!!!
what happened to your z4? got towed back by the bank already ar?
hahaha!
Hi,
This post is for the muslims who wants to know whether this type of MLM is Halal or not. I take this from Fikrah Doktor Salam section from Harian Metro News Paper.
Q: SAYA dipelawa untuk menyertai aktiviti perniagaan pemasaran pelbagai peringkat atau multi level marketing (MLM) di sebuah syarikat dengan keuntungan yang dijanjikan berlipat kali ganda.
Justeru, saya ke syarikat berkenaan untuk melihat sendiri pelan pemasaran yang dijalankan itu. Hati saya tertarik tapi masih ragu-ragu sama ada perniagaan MLM itu halal atau tidak di sisi Islam.
Ini kerana sekiranya ada peserta di bawah saya atau downline, saya akan mendapat keuntungan yang dijanjikan itu, tetapi jika tiada, saya tidak akan mendapat apa-apa. Adilkah perniagaan seperti itu di sisi Islam?
SUZIAH,
Kuala Lumpur
A: PERNIAGAAN MLM seperti di atas bukan bertujuan untuk perniagaan (menjual barangan dan sebagainya) tetapi hanya mencari downline semata-mata tidak dibenarkan dalam Islam.
Ini kerana tujuan sebenarnya MLM adalah supaya barangan dapat dijual secara terus daripada pengusaha atau pengilang kepada pelanggan dengan harga yang murah kerana tidak membabitkan orang tengah (peruncit).
Mencari downline semata-mata hanya menguntungkan syarikat terbabit kerana mereka mendapat yuran keahlian dan seumpamanya. Anda dibayar apabila downline berkembang. Ia adalah sistem piramid (skim Pak Man Telo) yang menyalahi undang-undang dan bukan MLM yang sebenarnya.
Dr Abdul Salam Muhammad Shukri
Penolong Profesor Kulliyah Ilmu Wahyu dan Sains Kemanusiaan, Universiti Islam Antarabangsa Malaysia
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This is my opinion(not try to offended other person) If there’s non muslims who already studied the way MLM works and mention that there’s something wrong with it, muslims would need to take heed on whether this is legal.
hey.. y no more anti lampe berger blog alreadY? whr steven yip gone??
.. i wan see bad image!! come on..
Still got. LB cheat people wan ma. Steven Yip! What happen to your force to fight evil? Are you forming it now? I can’t wait to see man, I’ll quit SYN and join you when you are able to bring down SYN. You want to safe people ma right. Ask you all to come Sunway Lagoon on the 9th September also didn’t appear. I think you are busy planning on what to do la, I don’t blame you, nvm, we are always at HLA, go there find bring down SYN man, I support you.
hello mr I SYN….
u r a bit of losers…
i thinks u r mr. network marketer, but now u using the name of I SYN…for wat reason u chaged ur namE???????????
because u already ‘Kantoi’ rite???
at d 1st place deny u r LB members, after that saying that u r LB members,…
dont u feel ashame, to face ur blog here????
by using another name???
HAHAhA….
is that u sifu teach, to become a cheater???
that’s y u still in HLA building..
yala, dun if you really are that good, be proud of yourself la, why wanna hide??!! Steven Yip, we support you! next friday, 21st September 2007, we all gather at HLA to bring down SYN!! Who’s with me?! anti lampeberger malaysia and steven yip, I’m sure both of you will be there right??! I’m all prepared already and I’ve gathered few of my anti lb friends already.
21st September? guys wat time? waiting for this wonderful moments. i may supply some petrol bomb to burn…hahhaa…kamikazeeee……..
Dun talk only, try show out this time ( ANTI LB GUYS ). Dun use excuse and reason for this time…. dun do thing where looser do…k~ cheer~… i will standby my camera there to shoot this memoey moment out.
im sory here my fwen anti LB….
i think what u r planing is not good,
we r not afraid,
but we have 2 fight legally, goin 2 someone co. and making a riot is not allowed in this country,
even if u want to do, ask a permit 1st…..
to lb members, u r not win yet
everybody.. can u guys please tell me.. i’m still confused ’bout being a member of SYN.. my friend was asking me yesterday… and now, i’m lookin forward bout the SYN.. but i found so many negative post bout the company…is that bad to be an SYN member? I’m from indonesia… plz tell me more bout the SYN… i dun wanna make a mistake… yesterday i was saw the bussiness as a leader to success…but, after i search down on web, so many people talked ’bout cheating people? Is that rite? plz help my footsteps..
i think u should read what im posted here before BUDdZZ…
if u think u can make it, u can join it,
but u have 2 remember, u have 2 searching 5 people under u, and i can guarantee u those 5 people surely is ur close fwen n relatives, if they r join n they cannot make money, once they invest in DCHL co, they r start 2 blaming u my fwen, r u willing 2 lose them????
im sure, the leader of SYN won’t tell u about their marketing plan, they insist that u should join this bisnes first, correct me if im wrong, once u join, they will start teaching u how 2 to ask ur fwen 2 join,
u know what…b4 u coming 2 their co. they have already know alot of backgroud, if im not mistaken, the name is FORM HD…that’s y sometimes, they know what is ur dream car, ur family backgroud,etc…
when u coming 2 their co 4 the 1st time…they will try to say something which is difficult 4 u 2 understand…Y????????
because they want u 2 belive that everything they say r right….
beware my fwen, if their co is well establish, y they r not advertise their co at the mass media, eg. tlevision.
surely that there r something wrong rite???
if they can make alot of money by joining this bisnes, better they pay for ur registration….
i hope u stay awy from this people.there r nothing easy in this world to get money
Hey Budzz,
When you already have doubt, means there is already something wrong with this business. Forget about LB and move on! Don’t be fooled when they tell you they are earning 5 figures nonsense shit. You have no idea how many LB’s bmws are being confiscated by the bank.
To all losers of LB Members,
For once, do something which worths your presence in this world. Stop cheating your parents hard earned money to invest in this scumbag, which in return used to cheat others. Shame on you! i wont be surprised if your family disowned you. Have some cow sense and know what is right! true dumbass!
And to those monkeys on top, stop impersonating and trying to provoke anti LB members to do an illegal gathering at HLA. We’re educated and smart enough to know what is right and what is wrong. and besides, we have a life.
wana get rich???
find a job…
n not cheat ppl around u…
MLM???LAMPE BERGER???
pls lah ok…
if u wan make money…
jus go 2 other country…
we msian….
we honest we our jobs…
we aint force ppl even our family…
anti lampe berger….
b strong an anti lampe berger…
coz we don need them in msian…
……….
if it is a scam, why is it legal under the Act Of Direct Sales 1993 under Malaysia Laws? why our Prime Minister, Pak Lah recognized this bussiness, Steven Yeam and one of DCHL product user? For those Muslim, MLM is HARAM when you do the bussiness to find downlines to gain their money only.But here in SYN, we sells product directly and being legal distributors+build networks.that’s what we call MLM. Allah has said 9/10 pintu rezeki are from bussinesses. all depends on NIAT. aware this..If you say SYN is scam, Why do Malaysia Laws allow this? Are you trying to be against our Law? don’t show your stupidity. think carefully..
Haha… stop being a fool lar. If you have some sense of self respect, please contribute something more truthful. For goodness sake, the whole LB works not because of the products, it’s about getting downlines and get them to join in order for you to get promotion and money. DOn’t try to act knowledgable here and buzz off! Shame on you!
contribute something truthful ey? the product that has been produce since more than 100 years ago in France u wanna argue aa? what kind of quality can last that long, u think urself if u have brain lah.. u’ll shame ur self..
anyway..bussiness won’t last if you only want to find downlines.anyway SYN dont look for downlines,it is looking for bussiness partners. if u dont wanna be one, so get off. no body will force u. SYN-DCHL have been 20 years and now all over the world. while DCHL continues to develop and gain success distributing all great quality products, wat u going to be and u think who u are in this world? no body care…
SYN DCHL walk the talk..not like u, whose talk the walk. success needs knowledge..not to be ‘bodoh sombong’. if u want to talk and condemn MLM so much, make sure u’re a success person and someone in this world. if not, don’t try to act like stupid so-called ‘hero by talk so much
this blog quite interesting lah. many anti LB talks a lot about the international company. hahahah…!
so funny u guys creating a blur petition here and talk talk talk. hey, this bussiness has been distribute around the worlds lah. who u all think u are. all talks in blogs and being losers. go out and gain success ur own way if u dont wanna do the bussiness la. better than wasting time reading this blog. anyway…if this petition is legally right, where’s the leader? can u show your face anyway? why not? if u re right so why dont have guts to put ur face here ah.oops! SYN,steven yeam are legal under the law. that’s why his pic everywhere. and u?hurm..i wonder. he has become a success leader lah,and millionaire. and you? Steven Yip, are you a success and more than Steven Yeam? just wanna know.. i am just an ordinary person try to gain more info about wat’s right and wrong here. and curious… who’s cheater? people who do the international bussiness of MLM(Which legal), or who creates this blogs and so-called petition(Which is blur under law)?
hi malaysian i totally agree wit u. gain more info if u feel this SYN business is a scam, why the network growth rapidly and strongly? it is just 7years since Steven Yeam brought in the system & education the network growth tremendously stable and provide support to Malaysia economy from time to time.(Do u believe it?)
SYN to date has donated more than RM 1 mil back to the community, question to those anti-mlm: which company has been practicing CSR (Corperate Social Responsiblity) by doing charity & donation with large scale of numbers? The recent Bt Gasing Charity Run (Step by step, organised by Nanyang Foundation, co-sponsor by SYN)more than 1000partner and friends turn up in the event.Which multi nasional company employees would willing to turn up in Sunday morning to join force in non profit events? Isn’t it better we sleep till afternoon?
My advice to those anti-mlm: Obtain more info that provide facts not verbal and explain it in mature manners.This is the info a gain from my research: RZ Corp is Malaysia registered company with valid license.(RZ Corp (Lisence)–> DCHL (Office) –> SYN (Marketing & Business Development Team)More info below.
1. RZ CORP IS DOING MLM CONCEPT BUT WHY IS NOT DSAM MEMBER?
DSAM? Membership is not compulsory.
2. WHY IS THERE IS NEGATIVE CONCEPTUAL ON MLM? DUE TO 1990′S BAD EXPERIENCE?
MLM is often associated with Pyramid Schemes, Get Rich Schemes. Before the Ministry gives a Direct Selling License, we study the marketing plan and make sure it is not a Pyramid Scheme or in any way illegal.
3. THERE WERE NEWSPAPER PUBLISHED (IN CHINESE PAPERS) BY MCA PRESIDENT MENTION MLM IS NOT LEGAL BECAUSE THERE ARE RULES AND REGULATION TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC.BUT ETHICALLY, DOES THIS APPLY TO ALL MLM COMPANY?
MLM is legal and all Multi Level, Single Level and mail order businesses is subject to the Direct Selling Act, 1993.
4. IS THERE ANY LEGAL LAW SUIT WAS FILE ON RZ CORP?
None that i know of.
5. THERE WAS A LOT OF INDIRECT NEGATIVE FEEDBACKS ON MLM BUT NO DIRECT HITS ON RZ CORP AKA LAMPE BERGER. QUESTION IS IT JUST RUMOURS TO SABOTAGE?
Most MLM have a valid marketing plan and scheme. Unfortunately it is the Direct Sellers themselves that modify and dont adhere to the approved marketing plan. This is what causes the problems. There have been negative feedback on many MLM companies.
For more info on the conversation above kindly contact:
SURYA KUMAR
Senior Assistant Director
E-Commerce Unit
Domestic Trade Division
Ministry of Domestic Trade & Consumer Affairs
Putrajaya, MALAYSIA
Email: suryakumar@kpdnhep.gov.my
Tel: +603-8882 6605
Mobile: +6017-366 8501
Fax: +603-8882 5858
http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my
Dear all anti-mlm, kindly take note on question no.5
Read carefully and understand it. Try to confront ur fren who dispute the friendship and con ur gf. I’m sorry to hear that. But from wat i understand from how u put the situation.. It was u dont understand the marketing plan and the intention, my fren.
If this business mean for conning people why, i mean WHY!! aren’t KPDNHEP did not receive any law suit complaint on RZ Corp aka SYN? Is because is LEGAL, PROVEN SUCCESS RATE, TRANSPARENT & STRAINGHT FORWARD BUSINESS, SYSTEMATIC, GLOBALLY LINK, INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS & ALL THIS REQUIRE HONESTY, SINCERITY & CLEAR INTENTION.
Question to u all again, same question from malaysian.
Why is Steven Yeam picture are all around showing his true support to Malaysian? Here is a tips for u.. Some ppl just say and do nothing, Some ppl will see others strive and yet he/she just see and wait (dont know he/she is waiting for, haha)& Some ppl will look for opportunity & non stop trying bcoz he/she belief wat he/she doing will provide him/her a future & to others as well(a true leader spirit)Or u would rather sit, wait & see?
For those who anti-mlm, talk to the person who show the business to u.. Ask him/her how well u urself knows the company & how committed ur introducer are to the business. If he/she can’t tell u his/her intention (niat in Malay)How r u going to get involve in the same blur person who brought u in? Btw, if u are a true fren of the person who intro u, get to know more of wat he is getting into instead of pour cold water. For those who say CAN’T or NO to opportunity..let me ask u this ‘Are u been looking for opportunity to make legal money & automate income? (So call I’m looking for opportunity but dont knw wat to do, want to open business but no income or see how la – ‘see how la = typical Malaysian spirit which provide 0% of success rate’) Dude wake up! Yes, u may work like dog and till years u r still looking at same boss who dont want to leave the seat for u till his retire age. But wen u manage to step to the GM office and rest your butt on that leather chair..U R STILL WORKING FOR THE SAME COMPANY! So wen are u gonna enjoy ur early retirement? Hav u thought of financial freedom? This words sound simple but have u guys out there were doing something bout this? Ask ur self, my dear anti-mlm frens.Just if there is by any chance, i’m saying tat some of u guys out there are lucky and hav 200k to start a bakery or a cafe or start ur own business tat is promising return of investment than u can pour cold water to others. But till then have a open mind and a open heart.
Do a lot of reading not just by hearing verbal info from failures & ppl who give up in business. U wanna follow A FAILURE IN LIFE? There is a lot more ppl who succeed in business y not look for their guidance? Read Donald Trumps & Robert T Kiyosaki’s journal. It will helps u. So more bull to pass out?
i give u A+ for ur so call believable essay.y shud i be da 1 get 2 know da person whose introduced me into diz LB thing? They shud be da 1 who doesnt suppose 2 trick ppl 2 enter into diz bullshit LB. Y do u ppl need 2 do da so call ‘form hd’ (correct me if im wrong) 2 find out ur future partners background n wat his like, b4 introduce diz bullshit LB 2 them?n den used it 2 trick them in joining diz biznez.dont u ppl feel bad bout urself.dey put their trust on u when they tell u bout their background..n u purposely used it by lying 2words them.u ppl shud b ashame of urself!
if u wan 2,d0 diz bisnes for d res of ur life.go ahead.d0nt ask naive people to join ur bisnes..ur wrong,if u think u can ask my fwen n family 2 join ur bisnes..hey dam stupid.i have already told them n i believe they wil spread diz story.t0 al people.who want to join diz bisnes.think again,if this stupid people.canot get the new future bisnes partner.they wont get any inc0me 4 dat month, dat y u c.diz lb member,make dog face.askin people 2 join diz bisnes.but once u join.they wil ignore u.u brag bout buying an awesome car den afta few mnths u still using public trnsport 2 go 2 DCHL BUILDING .dat juz so damn stupid.izit da bank didnt approvd ur loan coz u need 2 us ur family names 2 buy a car?coz ur so call 5figure income every month doesnt even exist.mybe for few mnth.but wat if ur partners didnt bring in any1 2 u..den wat wud happen 2 ur so call 5figure income..?it will b 3figure income o even 0income…uve said dat LB did not hav a pyramid system.try n draw it.from da top..u’ll get a pyramid shape.dun lie.ppl….*middle finger*
pyramid ey? let’s talk about pyramid! yayy!
anti LB says piramid system SYN working on. yeah, i think. u know why pyramid is tough right? it it most stable shape.
so, example you who work for your boss…all employed with fixed income everymonth. waa…comfortable ah. you work so hard till death, your income become bigger and bigger maa?? no. hehe… you think who’s making the profit? your boss. your employer. while you become only employee till ever. all the leaders on top of u gain the profit and give u orders. all employees work under them until they retired. while in SYN, you create own time wave length in ur own bussiness. u re ur own boss. all the leaders at the top,guides when u need.they once also begin with zero, but then they at the top. everybody starts with zero efforts. it is not easy of coz. only losers give up and fail. think…
who’s in the pyramid now?
pyramid ey..?? let’s talk about pyramid! yayyy!!
anti LB says piramid system SYN working on. yeah, i think. u know why pyramid is tough right? it it most stable shape.
so, example you who work for your boss…all employed with fixed income everymonth. waa…comfortable ah. you work so hard till death, your income become bigger and bigger maa?? no. hehe… you think who’s making the profit? your boss. your employer. while you become only employee till ever. all the leaders on top of u gain the profit and give u orders. all employees work under them until they retired. while in SYN, you create own time wave length in ur own bussiness. u re ur own boss. all the leaders at the top,guides when u need.they once also begin with zero, but then they at the top. everybody starts with zero efforts. it is not easy of coz. only losers give up and fail. think…
so…who’s in the pyramid now..?
owh..i missed something. i know the ‘form hd’ thing. yess! it is about the background of the frens before introducing em to SYN partners.
imagine if they don’t do research before bring people to the office…u think simply2 can bring to the office? bring some sort of stranger to introduce the precious LB? hohoho…not so easy. they have to know who they bring maa..it is to avoid partners to ask sensitive quest to the fren la. example, his father just died. it is written so that people would not simply ask about it straight la..it is not a trick, i think. it is a strategy. so what?
SYN-DCHL is an international company. it’s spread all over the world. have been 20 years..it’s big. so…big company don’t take stupid peole to join simply. who join without thinking wat and how this bussiness..of coz you are the stupid one..but now u re blaming the company for ur failure…
shame…shame…
owh ya! anyway…i ve seen a DUKE talking and sharing probs with a new partner. see how the pyramids work. people on top support all partners even that he/she doesnt have nothing to lose if not doing it. why? they are leaders.not boss.they guide,not order u wat to do.this i multilevel marketing.
who work as employee…hu…sadly, your boss will share ur prob? will he go down his office to see you…support…encourage you…wahaa!! i bet not. becoz wat? why should they? it’s you who work under then and desperate for money right…? they see workers like slaves. yeah…not all bosses are bad… but how many are so nice eyy…?
HAHA…
about the form hd.. ur example his father just died..
is that ur strategy??? i think thats not a strategy, thats form is jus a form that all of u use, 2 misuse what is ur fwen trust on u…
hey loser…at least, we work in our BOSS co,
we still have dignity, not ask a money from a naive young students, n naive people…and bring them 2 ur co. make a dog face ask them 2 join ur bisnes..
by d way…u are new here rite???in this blogs???
but y u appear???
simply because u read the massage posted by BuddZ rite???
not only in HLA building..here also u want to brain wash people minds..HAHAHA…
read the previous comment from me on Aug 23rd, 2007 at 2:12 pm…
that is the evidence prove that the LB members is a liar…maybe he is ur beloved SIFU…HAHAHAHAHAH :!o!:
dont be so proud about ur bisnes…
if GOvt people serve 4 the Govt 4 d rest of his life, even though there is no bisnes, economy crisis…they still have a salary, and the most important things this salary that they get is by not cheating other people money…
But How about u guys????
No new bisnes partner, no money rite???
Hey stupid, 1 day all of people in malysia will avoid u guys..
n wen that day come, u will realise, u have nothing, except ur dreaming…HAHAHAHA
hey Malaysian, SYN don’t take downlines but partners? wah telling us what pyramid is some more ar? Come on, stop being a foolish lamb of SYN man. Those who have gone to any of the LB Talks would have said the same thing as you. Don’t act noble here lar wey. you’re nothing knowledgable but mere parroting what others have taught you to say. Stop talking about problems and all man, if your downline has problem getting members, all the topline do is just to look for other downlines. AND in SYN, nobody cares about the products. It’s the recruitment and money game that keeps the products moving.
well, you don’t have to talk so much. go on cheating and have fun cheating and telling lies about how much you earned and all so that you can cheat other innocent people into this scam. Go and cheat as much as can now before LB close down. I have seen too many people failed in LB and getting themselves in toubles with debt etc…
real fools man these LB people, particularly that Malaysian. This poor innocent soul must have been brainwashed by SYN with all the 6 figures salary, driving bmws, financial freedom etc etc…. the one who brainwashed is bad enough but the one who got brainwashed is even worse. Shame on you, Malaysian, for not being able to distinguished what is right or wrong. What a fool.
All you did is by going to some nonsense business talks and practically parrotting what you’ve been told and tried to elevate your knowledge? No man, you’re just elevating your immaturity and what not, your pure stupidity.
Calling you dumb is an understatement. You know best what you are. I pity and sincerely hope all of you newbies out there NOT to join LB. Don’t get conned and involved in such SCAM.
and to you, Malaysian, please buzz off and go on cheating people’s money okay! Again, shame on you and i seriously pity your parents. What a spastic child they have but what the heck, they have probably given up hope on such a useless person like you!
To everyone else, please don’t join LB. Work your way up and preserverance will pay off! Thanks!
Hey BulB head Malaysian…..u r talking too much about yr suprb DCHL….do u c the real things goin on under the SYN pyramid system??? so far i knw 4 of my close frens who had been cheat with this bullshit berger…..all of them telling the same story where they were promised by yr BLACK SUIT BLAZERzz that they will help to find ppl under them…what happen??? once they join it….thats it..they r ignored..n until now the 2500 burn like that…this is wat u call biz?? not all like u who experts in cheating ppl lar…the only HARD WORK pour by yr MLM members is CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING and CHEATING….dear malaysians out there, dont waste yr money and regret by joining this bizz…. they all money suckers….even they will ask u to use yr credit card to pay the RM2500 entrance fee…just like how they encourage me to do soo….when i told them i only f money to support my food…they ask me to borrow from frens o relatives.from here ull knw what they really expect from u…MONEY n MONEY n MONEY….once u join it ull talk and support yr dchl just like the BulB head Malaysian…ulll be mentally disturbed and ull start cheating to encourage yr frens to join it….thtz yr turning point of loosing yr frens…mind it guys….
haha…
to all malaysian out there think again b4 u join this bisnes, this is the money that u gonna give for the use of ur family…
if u dare 2 use it, go ahead
oh yeah Stupid_LB! well said! you couldn’t have said it any better!
ey bulb head malaysian, don’t waste your precious time talking here man, better use this time to cheat more people because, you simply don’t have much time left. hahaha!!!!
LB are all losers and cheaters!
Go suck steven yeam’s shoes lar!
DAMN!
For those who are currently in LB, please do a deed to yourself and the community. Have some self realisation and quit! Once they are no downlines, the whole system will fall!
Quit LB!
and again, let’s take some time off to laugh at that Bulb Head Malaysian! he is a pure steven yeam’s shoe sucker! Ey Buld Head Malaysian, suck more la, maybe he will give u more downlines. hahaha!!!!
hahahha i just read.
MENTALLY DISTURBED BULB HEAD MALAYSIAN…
hahahhaa!!!!
well said man!!!!
hahahhaa…. spastic mentally disturbed fella!
LB_LB seems lik u still don’t understand much bout marketing plan..try 2 search for more info on the Y D HECK THERE STILL PPL JOIN WHILE U GUYS R WRITING BLOGS! not focusing on the surface issue but focus into the entire root issue here, dude.
Hav u really understand y ppl join? Conned? Or confident in the business? Were u a biz partner b4? Can u define downline & biz partner? I’m more than happy to share..myb let me giv u my definition..then u giv urs k. Here goes downline, biz partner, co-worker (colleague)& sidelines defination
Downline = ur subordinate (he/she works u get commission)right?
but tis only happens wen d market is mature in demand (studied marketing? if not seek d knowledge)Quiz for u all: Which company is at this stage? Even major company open sub companies.(Y? study business management?)
Biz partner = u may call them board of directors (watch Donald Trump? Look at them in meeting those are the biz partners u work CLOSELY WITH supporting each other)There is where v can open franchise globally!My fren, study the facts not d brags. U may feel envy them y cant u b lik them. And yes myb some of them manage financial estates poorly but is up to close members or close frens to advice.R u doing ur part?
Co-worker = both of u working for the same boss.Y do u think he is hiring u to work 4 him? is not bcoz of ur cert, dude.u may b clever but he is smarter!Don u think so?
Sideline = supports from the whole marketing team TEAM WORK, dude, TEAM WORK.would ur team leader motivate u to build ur own network? To built ur own financial freedom. Would ur biz partner support u n built ur financial freedom? Wat r u doing bout it?Again would ur co working on hundreds of partners who willing to share ideas from time to time?
Well LB_LB? Wats ur understanding bout things above?
=> i have fun reading all comments…hehe…
yeah…yeah..condemn Steven Yeam Network…not Steven Yeam the millionaire. yeah,probably there are people whose been so pushy to persue ppl to join, then after they join, never care about their partner/downlines. i dont deny that.whoever SYN did MLM like that are suckers. i hate em too. i understand if u guys anti LB feel. Coz many of my frens also like you guys. been cheat and felt betrayed by SYN. it’s not u guys’s fault.
neither SYN are right, nor anti LB.. .i think everybody is not right or wrong. haha!
but i think LB is a great product lah. more than 100 years in France maa…
back to anti LB, good luck in ur life. you guys must have been cheated by the suckers in SYN or MLM before. pity on you…that time u re not so clever i think. but i don’t think this is clever too.hehe..
ok.ok. i’ll buzz off this blog. see ya next time around. mmmuahx!
actually i’m not one of them, not also one of you..
it’s just i’ve seen so many my close frens success in d biz, parents come and support them to the office once they become franchisee til they become marquis.. i did go to some events of SYN..and i know quite a lot, i’ve seen them succeed.and they are my close frens.
i also have close frens who failed. all they said like you guys said. but i understand why. coz they have been brought to the office by some sucker in the network. some even chase my fren to her/his home! wahaa…so scary la MLM ppl. then my frens become ‘FOBIA’ to any MLM and i guarantee they wont wanna hear about it anymore.and they are my other close frens too.
i am a stranger but i am happy with my life. i love making frens and knowing many types of ppl.and creates memories in life. leading to colourful life ahead. i’m not anyone’s side. i’m on my side only.heee..
How much afford tht u hv put into the biz is how much u will get, when u re a failure in the biz, juz dun blame others…..plz admit it as a man. If u re sitting thr, waiting for the money to drop down from the sky, go ahead and wait, dun simply bullshit about SYN whr u din really know bout it.
If u re hoping to gain help from the upline, dun juz sit n wait, u should sound out and seek for advices…waiting n waiting will juz make u paralyzing.
If they are cheating ppl’s money, y thr re many successed from the company? they act as if they re? Re u sure for tht? Do they need to act to u guys to believe it?
Thank you for the compliment on my sharing.Haha sorry if i have to quote u on the word naive students, naive ppl, serving the Gov, dog face, dignity, public transport, family loan, business loan, personal loan, wen the days comes u will realise,cheating, dreaming, FORMHD, not a get rich fast scheme. So u may not get the picture wen i ask u to read question no 5. And the rest of the article.
From tat i’ll answer u, goal setting, leadership in business, clean and transparent business, business owner, global operating network (huge international network – operating in 11 countries), legal business, knowledge seeker, open mind, prestige, exclusive & well known company & product.
Thank you for the compliment on my sharing.Haha sorry if i have to quote u on the word naive students, naive ppl, serving the Gov, dog face, dignity, public transport, family loan, business loan, personal loan, wen the days comes u will realise,cheating, dreaming, FORMHD, not a get rich fast scheme. So u may not get the picture wen i ask u to read question no 5. And the rest of the article.
From tat i’ll answer u, goal setting, leadership in business, clean and transparent business, business owner, global operating network (huge international network – operating in 11 countries), legal business, knowledge seeker, open mind, prestige, exclusive & well known company & product.Hav u notice tat?
Thank you for the compliment on my sharing.Haha sorry if i have to quote u on the word naive students, naive ppl, serving the Gov, dog face, dignity, public transport, family loan, business loan, personal loan, wen the days comes u will realise,cheating, dreaming, FORMHD, not a get rich fast scheme. So u may not get the picture wen i ask u to read question no 5. And the rest of the article.
From tat i’ll answer u, goal setting, leadership in business, clean and transparent business, business owner, global operating network (huge international network – operating in 11 countries), legal business, knowledge seeker, open mind, prestige, exclusive & well known company & product.
But do notice tat?
i think what my friends here LB_LB said is right, dont waste ur time here, go 2 HLA buliding cheat and suck more people money….ur here give ur dumb point of view, without any sense of humanity, what 4????
beter go 2 HLA building invite more new bisnes partner 2 join ur bisnes…
Hey NC n somebody….
dont try 2 be like u are knowledgeable, we r not stupid like u r..
hey somebody…did u said that when people quit their job and join dis bisnes, , everyday attend 2 d building, go 2 the classes they r not work hard enough???
hey come on lah, is not about their effort actually, its about ur bulshiting word, cheating more people, jus 2 get d commision from them,
hey, if they cannot brings any benefit 4 u guys, what 4 u guys gonna help them, am i rite???…
no need for u 2 define anything….im stil wondering about ur bisnes, do u publish ur precious bisnes 2 d mass media??hey man, ur income is 5figures man…IF U HIDING A SHIT IN UR HAND, ONE DAY ALL THE WORLD WILL KNOW, SOONER OR LATER….
Btw, there is some problem uploading my article, hmmm I wonder y? But anyway, knowledge is to be seek not brags on it. Wasn’t tis forum to voice out ideas? Is it wrong to fight for something tat u strongly believe in? Lik how u believe in SYN is a scheme..but y there r ppl still join SYN? How can a scheme operate in 11 countries legally? My fren, is bcoz is not a scheme but a genuine business! So r u using EQ here or IQ?
And wats the risk and harm, by knowing more on ideas of legal marketing & business development unless u prefer to work for ppl the rest of ur life? V hav been tought to study hard and work for good company and get better salary. Well let me tel u this my fren, only a few profession will get u out of tis rat race (rat race = daily routine, work for money)
1. Professional = dr, engineers (r u 1 of them?)
2. Business owner & Property owner = giant co, CEOs (r u 1 of them?, Donald Trump & Bill Gates is 1 of them)
3. Entrepreneurs = business builder (r u 1 of them?, Robert T Kiyosaki is 1 of them)
U may ask tis question – Aren’t v all doing the same? Work for ppl is the most dignitious act of life ( this is been programmed in to our brain since school days but y the heck still there r ppl wanna do their own business? open their own shop & etc..Y? If ur salary is 5k per month unless u dont hav any commitment (car, house & etc) u may save quite a number of money for ur EARLY RETIREMENT PLAN.Wen do u think u wanna enjoy life fully since u r working for ppl (no freedom of time & freedom of money)U may answer, I do enjoy my life after work, with my MC leave, annual leave & etc (but wen u really calculate back ur salary is only worth a few ringgit per hour by working for ppl or co.) Bill Gates’s income 6k per minute. How he did tat? Marketing, my fren.He is just a drop out college student but manage to team up programmers around the contacts but market it on his own name.U may say again, arent wat SYN is doing? No, SYN provides a wonderful system where by U start from zero (tat is wat Bill Gates did, a drop out chap but carry a huge dream & idea with him)build the business & in the end it generate automate incomes. U may say, I’m not tat good or there is no more market & ideas to build – SYN is building a future market.Unless u r not a marketing person than u may not understand it and accept the faith of WROOFING behind ur boss! Is this the dignity of the real u? Shielding behind of a leader instead of becoming 1? Wen is ur dignitious moment? Earn 10k per month or help others to earn the same amount u r earning of 10k? My fren, there is no others network provides tat but u can find it in SYN.Would tat seem naive to u?
Wat u wanna say bout it?
I totally agree wit malaysian on the corperate world setup. Even in medium co setups u still work for ppl who open a business or employs u to work and run the business for the boss – The boss will do plannings where to open another co or plan trips to overseas for holidays. And v? Sitting a behind the working station ‘dreaming’ wen is our time to b lik him (the boss)Wen? Ask ur self..Y how hard is d business is he still wanna become a boss? (*chuckle* bcoz he is stupid?, hehe arent u more dumb than him? Working under a stupid boss. U may answer, I rather work for d rest of my life, waiting for my pay check every month, hav a fix hour of goin back home, watch tv & etc. – my fren, tis is wat i call U R IN THE RAT RACE!) Read ‘Who move my cheese?’ & ‘Rich Dad Poor Dad’, U may found some general ideas may practice legally in Malaysia!.
Again, the SYN business is so transparent and simple but yet they dont understand it and misjudge it! Tell me which co let u inherit ur position in the co now to ur generation? For those who give up in the business – Y u join the business in the 1st place? U may hav confront ur fren (introducer) or his/her upline to voice out ur problems..if u think, is better to keep it to ur self then y this blog? is it because u r still not clear on wat u getting on than seek the answer not by following 3rd party conveying msg. U, urself has been involve into the business than u noe more than them but remember ‘pour cold water’ paragraph? Read it.There is proven success rates if u just listen & follow the system guidence.And not to forget honesty to ur self and to others.If u still think tis business is a scheme, y is the business is growing? Should it to b stop already? Is more than thousand of biz partners across Malaysia tis is not include 11 other countries. The recent International Member Exchange (IME 2007) where 10,000biz partners arrive in d venue! Just imagine those who cant get d flight tix to come here, Malaysia! Flight tix is not cheap dude, r this ppl stupid or crazy? If u thing is stupid, think again u r saying to this 10k pax of ppl.Think about number – try to ask MYR1 from tis ppl how much u get? Tis is just simple mathematical theory but if u understand the actual marketing plan, u find business development. My fren, study math, study business & study marketing or shall i say, study n put it in practice (legally).U may ask wat bout marketing ethics? Yes, is ethically correct -remember I’m talk bout individually ethics.So again (2 way comm) if v speak the same knowledge in result v may speak d same language but different interpration. So how far is ur understanding? Using IQ or EQ now?
So, do u still think this is cheating? Then y the company is still operating in most major city and 11 countries? Shouldnt b there is law suit against it? My fren, the product is ISO certify non toxic to human inhaling & cover by EURO 6mil insured.By any chance any person get intoxicated by the product & certify by doctor, u may claim to b EURO6 millionaire!(But a sick 1 la, Haha – is just a joke
)Which company dare to insured its product wit MYR 1mil? Tell me, and this is EURO6 mil!Tis is not self claim. U want proof? Look for ur ‘disputed’ fren.
My fren, FORMHD is similiar wit application letter tat u filled during ur 1st interview wit d co u working wit now. Y d heck u so willingly to fill it (wen ur best fren fill it for u, u don wan)wen u look at the details of ur application letter and d FORMHD, u did not realise u fren is showing u a lifetime opportunity to change ur life to a better 1.Tis shows how narrow minded u r!But u fill in the application letter & happily or nervously handed it to d person who interviewed u. But wit ur best fren u feel u been violated? LOL
wah la wei!!!
hye..so lots of crap things that u guys talking bout..hahah..let me explain at u 1st,i u r really have a bisnez mindset,u r going to be okay if i tell u that multi level marketing is just a good industry nowdays..nvermind if u like to open ur own factory,ur own boutique or workng under people n achive ur dreams..yes,i one of SYN members that u called a cheater…nvermind..its all just about respect..if u dun like our company,nvermind..its ur choice..MLM industry its not wrong,but a few cmpany ruined up this industry..let we talk bout biz for those wnt to be a bizman..if u want to open ur own cmpany,how much capital u need?if u r from poor background but u just have a great idea how to build up a biz but the problem is the capital,wut u r goin to do?just let ur creative brain n potential burn away just bcos u have not enough mney to build a biz?i dun think so..atleast u r going to lend somebdy’s mney rite?u r going to take a risk rite?but nvermind..i respect this people bcos they r dare to fail..i don’t like such people who just go wit the flow in their life,going to school,den unversity den after grad,u going to have ur job(if u r lucky)…so,u r going to work until ur old n waitng 4 ur EPF..i think u cant do anythng u like..u will nver rich if u r working under people or a cmpny..ir u r saying all the leaders in mlm cmpany espcially SYN/DCHL r cheating n gained their dwnline money,u r wrong..there have a system n depends the system manage the mney..i ddn’t said all mlm cmpany is gut,but 1st,u must understand the MARKETING PLAN..so u can understand where’s ur mney goes..u hates network marketing n mlm?…mmm..u know how starbucks which from seattle have their store around the world?u know from seattle,it goes to arab saudi,thailand,s’pore,indonesia n malaysia,den,in mlysia,how come it can spreads to penang,johor,ngri sembilan,s’ngor n k.lumpur,den try to thinks in kl,there have starbucks at klcc,midvlley,sg.wang,the curve and kl plaza..try to draw,from seattle,downs to other country,den spread to the state,den goes to town..what u can see..its multilevel marketing/network marketing..u knw evry single cent that u paid for a drink at starbucks will goes to seattle?u knw how cme the bring starbucks frm seattle till klcc?thats what we call network marketing for ur information gentlemen..if u r said all MLM r a pyramid system,people at top will get all his downline’s mney,cheating them,wutso ever…u look at other cmpany..i mean not mlm’s cmpany..whose at top?ceo..rite?after ceo mybe manager,after manager there have supervisor,afterthat normal employee..hw many ceo’s?hw many mnagers?its look like pyramid system also rite?try u to think if there something happens to the cmpany,u think ceo will sell his car?his property?nop,but he’ll fired his workers..n den how bout his unlucky rejected workers?how they cntinue their life while ceo got nuthin to think bout the cmpany’s problem anymore?..im a accountant..now im quiting my job n do this biz..at SYN..one more things,try to get BUSINESS MAGAZINES JANUARY 2007 ISSUE..there have my LOVE CMPANY’S PREVIEW N need to WATCH CMPNY’S IN MLYSIA FOR THE SUCCESS NETWORK MARKETNG CMPANY…see,other industries can respect ntmork marketing n my cmpany,y u guys can’t?..u’ve said syn people are head hunters,looking a people to cheat n ask to join in the cmpny,IF U R SO GOOD,TRY TO FIND ME A BIZ WITHOUT LOOKING N FIND PEOPLE..TRY TO PROVE ME..even in banking also looking for people..tell me wut biz nit no people..n dun feel ashamed if u also can be network marketing or mlm cnsumer if u go to starbucks,mcdonalds,kfc n everythings…LAMPE BERGER its our product,like nike,reebok,honda n all the things..please read more about biz n lookng at ur environment gentlemen…evrythngs are involve in mlm n network marketing..please understand what is MULTILEVEL MARKETING is all about bcos all of the people r use it…
Public transport is the most convenient transport to move around the heart of KL. Wats wrong with tat?Plus this business is in building stage (remember Bill Gates, zero chap just full of ideas and dream – do u know how much he contribute in his CSR program? Say he is a liar but is for u to find out)So, back to building stage, most of them are looking for oppurtnuity (Arent u?)and try to save and spend wisely whislt in every business is the same! How u manage co turn over, expenditure, ROI, time frame wen can earn back, sales target & etc.U may understand tis if u r from sales line or management line.Unless u r none of both? Then no wonder u dont understand it and stubborn! Haha Plus tis business is not a get rich quick scheme..How long did Bill Gates build the business? Case study for u guys out there: Micrsoft started off with Windows 3.11. How much is the price back then? After number of years of evolution comes Windows Vista. How much is the price then?Y Windows beat Oracle, Linux, Mac & the others of numbers of sales? Demand & marketing method. Mac is very expensive but y still there r demand? Marketing method. Generally they market it via media ads (tv, press conference & etc) This is 1 way communication – Company A –> advertise to mass media, get it? Pros: Look nice, become market influencer and trend.Cons: mass media involve huge $$$ and does not promise number of sales but help to support sales.SYN builds via human interaction (trust, belief, attitude & etc)This is 2 way comm – Human A –> Fren A, Fren A –> Human A.Get it? Pros: Genuine fren & biz partners Cons: misinterpretation of words may occur from Human A & Fren A, misunderstanding may occur between Human A & Fren A, misunderstanding on the business marketing plan.Tis is not ‘easy money scheme’ but future finance freedom.Then u might ask was is wat v r doing now? Working for others? Yes, u hav ur point but wen r u goin to own ur own business?A year later? R u close to it?
hey anti lampe berger malaysia who had said ‘.im stil wondering about ur bisnes, do u publish ur precious bisnes 2 d mass media??hey man, ur income is 5figures man…IF U HIDING A SHIT IN UR HAND, ONE DAY ALL THE WORLD WILL KNOW, SOONER OR LATER….’
come on man..u r so outdated person la..go n ask ur frens who like to buy MALAYSIAN BUSINESS MAGAZINES ISSUE JANUARY n read it!one more things,last 2 week,we had a international members exchange in sunway lagoon..about 10k people all over asian come to malaysia n we had a tourism minister come n join us..so,u wanna say that our minister is also a stupid person?u think malaysian gverment is so stupid to made DIRECT SELLING ACT?adoiii…
So, do u still think this is cheating? Then y the company is still operating in most major city and 11 countries? Shouldnt b there is law suit against it? My fren, the product is ISO certify non toxic to human inhaling & cover by EURO 6mil insured.By any chance any person get intoxicated by the product & certify by doctor, u may claim to b EURO6 millionaire!(But a sick 1 la, Haha – is just a joke
)Which company dare to insured its product wit MYR 1mil? Tell me, and this is EURO6 mil!Tis is not self claim. U want proof? Look for ur ‘disputed’ fren.
)Which company dare to insured its product wit MYR 1mil? Tell me, and this is EURO6 mil!Tis is not self claim. U want proof? Look for ur ‘disputed’ fren.
So, do u still think this is cheating? Then y the company is still operating in most major city and 11 countries? Shouldnt b there is law suit against it? My fren, the product is ISO certify non toxic to human inhaling & cover by EURO 6mil insured.By any chance any person get intoxicated by the product & certify by doctor, u may claim to b EURO6 millionaire!(But a sick 1 la, Haha – is just a joke
My fren, FORMHD is similiar wit application letter tat u filled during ur 1st interview wit d co u working wit now. Y d heck u so willingly to fill it (wen ur best fren fill it for u, u don wan)wen u look at the details of ur application letter and d FORMHD, u did not realise u fren is showing u a lifetime opportunity to change ur life to a better 1.Tis shows how narrow minded u r!But u fill in the application letter & happily or nervously handed it to d person who interviewed u. But wit ur best fren u feel u been violated?LOL
And then y u worry & keep talking bout no biz partner no money, or no ppl to con, no money. U r not in d business how u know so much? Or u just knew it from a fren of a fren? Remember 2 way comm? Would u dare to say u know more than wat i mention n yet u dont want to know bout d business, how it works, wats its ROI bcoz u dont hav d confident in ur self in result u dont understand y SYN is growing rapidly & strong? So shall i say u still don understand wat is SYN all about.
Oh well i lik to congrat u of having tis forum. I realise tat u r doing advertising 4 google. But is tis wat u want? If ppl click to join ur affiliate program then u may earn a small percent of commission but if dont? And u may only earn up 2nd tier of affiliate program. My fren, even giant company is doing the mlm but diff marketing method but u joined! Is it because there no need to fork out ur own capital? Yah u mayb hav a point but how long u may achieve ur target? Or u did not set a target at all? R u a businessman or a business follower? Nothing wrong or right between both coz both is business.. 1 faster than d other only.
U mention sooner or later ppl will noe..hmm I wonder wen? Or u rather wait till more ppl noe the truth of the business is genuine n u guys 3rd party is just saboteur n show bull’s S?
Well do u still think i’m knowledgeable? Do u read ‘ Who move my cheese?’ & Rich Dad Poor Dad, u may find interesting ideas on doing business & legally practice in Malaysia!. Or u rather sit & work hard lik tail wager and stand with bosses nags. Well ask ur self tis ‘am i in the rat race?’
How can u start a business? By dreaming? No, my fren. Dream, Planinng & Action.Which 1 hav u done? Or done half way? Then keep on dreaming!To build a business needs capital.Where can u get capital? Family? Bank? Fren?
Dreaming is a innovated goal setting, where dream is just dream only belief & action would spark into realisation – Annonymous
yeah… thx to all of you guys… i dunno what i did was gud choice… but i reject them…. u guys quite right… last night, after i research on the web, i choose not to join the SYN… i told him last night… n guess what.. he said: “ok budz, but can we meet up first n talk?”.. i guess so.. he won’t quit easily… i said, its ok…we can meet at the cantin on the college(he is my senior in my college n we r in the same fac).. n he asked me: Ok,why?…u have a problem? we can solve it together… n he started to tell bout how hard he got 5 million rupiahs to be a member, n to make a gud investment for his future life…he said it was a very gud bussines,.. many of the member are from the big2 company in the town, have already a gud salary for life, n that was still not enough for his life.. so many of them leave the job n prefer to be a member…he said, that his salary for 8 years back when he was work in the early job was the same as doin’ the SYN bussiness for 1,5 years…I said, that was very nice… but… i have already read what u guys wrote above… I wanna ask u guys aumthin? Who r u guys? are u all from the loser of the SYN member? why u guys have known alot? Actually, i wanna say that you guys are very right bout the system.bcoz, i really2 threatened like what u guys tell early… it was their system… thx for the shared.. But… actually.. i have my opinion… actually MLM bussiness is not 100% bad… if u have guts, skill, hardwork(to make people show their bucks), speech fluently n poisonly, it will make u successful in d bussiness..the problem is… Just a few people can reach that part…Most of the member was got lost… So.. i think that i’m not ready for this.. i’m not a gud speaker… i’m not gud at lying or sumthin’… actually they r not 100% lying… They r rite about there r successful brainwasher people in their member… but, that was not for everybody… it was juzz for a few member… R u guys please tell me? r there any of u have got to be a member? and lost the money? are there really so few people get success? maybe it was just becouse u do nothing after u get ur member? coz, i think before u join, u must be really ready for selling the stuff and very hardworking for make a closing… if you do nothing or juzz quit for the first time, it will cost nothin..So plz tell me more bout ur story…becoz, i think i can’t juzz go away for the SYN… i thought he still don’t quit bout making me 2 be a member… he still makin’ a gud contact for me.. actually, i don’t really close to him… but, in the early days, he was became so nice to me… like, asking me for a footsal game for tomorrow like he always asking me like that, coz he never asked me bout the footsal be4…n he dont forget to tell that this was really not have any connection for the bussiness… haha… (but why u asking me right juzz after the speechdays?) this is my stories… hope can be usefull for you guys back there…
thanks to NC to explain bout life n biz..after i think,i think those people who r talking bout crap things bout syn is also a member who did not doin it well in the biz..i ddnt say who join dis can be succesfull,its all about ur effort,the system just the way for u to get it..or i think u guys from other mlm cmpany who want to t-down our cmpany?lets be matured n think big..lots of reading bout dis industry,or i sggest u just read ‘rich dad poor dad’ by robert t.kiyosaki..or ‘dare to fail’..haiya lenchai..plz be matured kay..if u hate syn,nvermind but plz put ur mouth shut kay..for budzz,just try to open ur mind ok..even u like it or not,just open ur mind,think bout it,n do lots of research bout our cmpany..but PLZ REFER TO CORRECT PERSON..if u wnt to b succed,u shud ask frm the people who aredi succed..not hear n asking from people just know nuthing or ‘rubbish’…tq
AFter i read evrythng that was wrote above,i can feel that u guys from a syn also,hw cme u knw bout our biz?duke,marquis,rm2.5 k n evrythng?i thot u guys from a failure biz partner..thats y u react like that..i got it..haiyark..u shud learn sumthng..not evrythngs is gud..i ddnt say my company is too gud,what is important,how u manage ur ownself..don’t hope so much frm ur uplines..its our biz,so,who’s going to help if not ourself?am i rite?..
Stop all your crap man!
A civilised person would know what is right and wrong.
Good Luck and may you all cheat more people!
hey budz, you made the right choice. COngrats!
all they say and all they posted here are all scripted.
They are just parroting what their uplines taught them to say!
Stupid Hypocrit!
Buzz off man, you LB CHEATERS!
To Know & Not To Do Is Yet To Know
Wow To Know & Not to do is yet to know? wow… must be another tagline taught by the lousy SYN! trying to be noble again?
try jumping down from a building. Everyone says it’s fatal. But you never do yet rite so you yet to know. So, why don’t you try?
Go confined to your HLA Building and cheat people around you.
Over here, you’ll never succeed!
Quit LB!
I rather want to buy lamb burger, at least it can fill up my stomach! Although highly educated, they still believe in LB. Insider secret: LB is not legally liable of the deal (so called franchise) between uplines and downlines! From legal point of view it is very simple and there seems to be nothing wrong: LB sells goods to some people (uplines). Before people jump into LB or any such money-sucking pyramid, we need to educate them:
http://www.tipskey.com/consumer_alert/read_this_before_joining_mlm.htm
if we are cheating people,ok,nvermind..just leave us alone..just do ur things ok LB_LB..if u think u r so nice,not cheatng people,hate our cmpany,just ignore it..day by day lots of people join us,so,just leave us doing our business kay..just save ur own butt n shut up..so,its going to be stop..or u call n make a report wth police,media n goverment..no needt to confront it in dis crapy web site,think n act!go reaport n investigate ok!thanks my fren..
u knw what we call for u LB_LB?like bahasa ‘katak dibawah tempurung’..u’ve got nuthing to say maa..u said our leaders taught them to say??hahah..we have brain also,have to eyes,two ears n we use it!..do research..not just said other people’s things bad things..MIND UR OWN BUSINESS k…y,u thing u gut enough?so,use ur gut things to confront us,but not in the website,but reality..ok?..i want to see it..dare?
unmatured thinking la u LB_LB..y u dun said mcdonalds cheating us?y u dun said starbucks,kfc,n other brands cheating u?they r using multilevel marketing also..n u also r mlm consumer..haisshhh..mirror ur face 1st maaa…
Agree with ejam love MLM n SYN. Btw, ejam love MLM n SYN it is ok tht thr re ppl dun believe in it, if not, we dun hv ppl selling Chao Kueh Teoh or Mee Rebus to us……
Agree with ejam love MLM n SYN. Btw, ejam love MLM n SYN it is ok tht thr re ppl dun believe in it, if not, we dun hv ppl selling Chao Kueh Teoh or Mee Rebus 4 us……
congratz BudDz………
u r rite man…Lb_Lb..
everything posted there by LB members NC is copied….
i feel bored reading ur precious comment that u get from ur company,
If i am the examiner i give u A1 for the most excelant essay and i suggest the title should be “HOW TO CHEAT PEOPLE’s MONEY”
HAHAHA…..so funny,
we r not hiding in this blog la man…
this is 1 of our sources to tell the world that u guys r no 1 cheater in the world..
i think u r rite SYN supporter. if there is no people join ur bisnes, there is no people out there selling cahr kue teow n mee rebus…
at least man, they get the money in etchical way, not cheating other people money…
what???sunway lagoon, u guys book all the resort, similar like sentosa at S’pore rite???
my fwen go there la dear, not 7000. they say not more than 500 people, i think that is not ur new bisness partner, but they is ur poser colleagues , want to get rich by suckin people money…HAHAHAhA!!!!!!!!!!!
haha budzz..
that is so called follow up, they make a nice face, even u r not close 2 him, what 4???
am i rite… they prefer to make a dog face, rather than the human face, this is because, they want u 2 join la….
when u join n put fully cocentration n effort, if u failed, they start blaming u, at that moment, u will see, how the dog face will turn 2 the pig face…
they r same, without having any sense of humanity, cheating people, at 1st, ask u 2 join 4 2345k, after that poison ur brain to invest in 30k, y?? at the 1st place they did’t tell u about that???
IS that u call strategey????????????????
Hey Ejam-love-MLM-n-SYN,
if you have brains in the 1st place, you would not have joined LB. That says it all! So, I won’t be too surprised if you see something else when you mirror yourself!
and again, all you have mentioned is donald trump, robert t. kiyosaki…. now macdonald, kfc, starbucks. what a fool!
Go widen your knowledge man. If you think this world only revolves around your LB MLM stuffs, then let it be. There are other more prominent MLMs around unlike LB. LB is a SCAM.
And you, being a cheater yourself, don’t deserve any dignity.
wow, now trying to pursue with threat? see you face to face etc? is this what’s being taught by your SYN again? wow… using force now ey. Don’t be a fool lar, you foolish cheater!
As i made my stand again, please go to HLA yourself, you will then know what is real and what is not! At least of cos, if you’re knowledgable enough and not being fooled and duped by 6 figures salary la…the basement full of BMWS lar… damn… so steretype man!
QUIT LB!
and for you ejam, you can love and stick to your Steven Yeam all you like! Don’t con others!
QUIT LB!
again, good job budz for staying away from LB! your future is very bright ahead!
hahahaha!!!!
Another foolish comment made by ejam!!!
7000 ppl turn up? ohh, it’s actually less than 500.
wow, quite a bit of variance ey. That means when you tell ppl u earning 6 figures is actually probably just 3 la i guess. Good stuffs there man. What a way to cheat people!
Thanks for exposing yet another attempted cheat by the losers.
Thanks anti lampberger.
QUIT LB.
Syn supporter,
are you looking down at mee rebus and char quar teow people? Is this another tactic taught by your upline to lure people to join LB? If you don’t join LB, you’ll end up as char quar teow and mee rebus mamak guy rite?
Shame on you! grow up man, you fool!
Quit LB!
haha very funny, anyways thanks for d A1..u really think i copied the stuff from other ppl? or v a hav seen d reality of d economy & business development growth? All I did was just quote back ur words on naive understanding on business & marketing development.
budzz, here is my advice to u. ask ur disputed fren ‘howw clear is he on wat is he getting into b4 asking ppl joining d business’ SYN is representing prestigious product in the market and v DO NOT NEED PPL WHO HAV 0% IQ to join company.I believe he was just sharing his ideas n wat he sees in this business.
Well u may ask who am I? I’m just a businessman in a young age own 3 companies in the same time of doing this business.I must agree u may not c wat is new market or wat market is out there to do business. I believe u guys is just a bunch of student (fresh grad) n thinking wat ur cert of diploma or degree may worth.. Think again, budzz i may not noe how is ur country business license operate but i would advice u to look for ur country gov body to clarify how is DHCL came operate in ur country. I must admit I did a lot of research (from gov bodies & NGOs) b4 i join in tis business.Ur fren must hav been new or hav not fully undestand wat is d company vision & missions. U worked for a company multi nasional company b4? Hav u been attached with a medium setup company b4? U realize tat u hav been expose wit pyramid shceme till u don’t know bout it!!!
Difference between
Try 2 draw out tis if u think i’m lying.. 1 headmistress/headmaster/principal, 5 – 7 deans (Dean of Economics Studies, Dean of Business Studies, Dean of English Communication & etc..)10 – 15 Teachers/ Professors/ Lecturer, 100s of students. My fren tis the most basic setup of a school/college/university. D head oversees everything, dean assigned a few lecturers to assist him, a few lecturer given classes to monitor.Then come to students.
U r lack of FACTS, my fren. N start BRAGS around. LOOK FOR THE FACTS! S’pore IME was a great event..wat number pax? 500? 7000? Minimal pax to book d whole Sentosa Island is 3000pax! There was 5000 turn up la, dude! Get the facts right! It was broadcast in S’pore tv channel coz we had a charity programme wit d IME.Wat fren of a fren story u r telling? Tat is y U HAV 2 ASK QUESTION TO THE RIGHT PERSON.U were not there ur self n u trusted a failure in a business wat does it makes u? Dumb S with a F! (failure)
Again, did u ask ur fren Y D HECK HE WENT TO A EVENT WEN HE DONT KNOW WAT IS IT ALL ABOUT? Tat event is for d biz partners & true frens from all around Asia Pacific to hav a gathering & sharing ideas & experience through out the journey & d process in d business from all 11 countries where, v hav DCHL ofis there. Remember if tis is a scam Y D HECK IS STILL OPERATING LEGALLY IN 11 COUNRTRIES?
Haha (laugh to myself) such an intellectual media misuse to provoke propaganda witout strong facts. let me ask u tis, (hav u study history?)how ppl compile history? from bad time to good times? or vice versa? I may agree tat there was a Black Era of MLM but wen was it? Now gov Direct Selling Act 1993 has rule out to protect consumer, member, biz partners from mislead & misuse companies policy.(i’m not sure how other countries works but will b delighted to hear bout it)
U may not confidence in tis topic coz there is no trust in it but answer me tis..(there is SO many question i been asking to ask ur self individually but non of u did ur homework)- hav u ever take things positively? No? Tis is typical, naive human action.Its normal. So in result? Normal life, NORMAL INCOME, NORMAL FUTURE? I dont think so coz hav u all really look into it? NO.Tis general topic may not trigger ur mind since u hav no commitment towards ur life!Correct me if i’m wrong, where can u find a company tat emphasis same goal, same vision, same mission & sincerity. And yet i’m speaking individually, still there a ppl lie to them self & to others. There is very d bad apple from, my fren.
Where did i get all tis info from? Research my fren, Get to noe it b4 u put a full stop on it. Hav u heard bout tis quote “learn while u still live”
Wat? u never heard bout d most successful ppl such as Donald Trump? Robert T. Kiyosaki? Then u may not hav understand my comments earlier.Or u dont actually lik reading? So safely I can say tat u dont hav enough facts to back up ur comments? So who is d lazy bone here? Or u would like to answer like this OINK! U always mention work hard. How hard u gonna work? Now is new era where ppl WORK SMART SO TAT THEY CAN ENJOY EARLY RETIREMENT. Does ur work hard gives u tat? Ask ur self.
Well some how I agree wit u LB_LB on other MLM companies method on marketing & development. Can u share some of d MLMs co marketing plan?
Case study: wat can u do with RM 2500? opening up a burger stall for example,(My fav burger Chicken Special Black Pepper)Checklist (minimal setup):1. 2nd hand wooden stall RM 500.2. Glass shelf RM 250. 3. Dry Stock (black pepper, chilli sauce &etc.) RM 100 4. Rolling stocks (bread, eggs, meats & etc) RM 300. 5.Monthly stocks or bills (Gas,electric, gasoline & etc) Rm 300. 6. Utensils(knive & etc)& furniture (chairs/ stools, optional)RM 900 with chairs/ RM150 w/o chairs Total:RM 2350 w chair / RM1600 w/o chair. Now operation hour, daily: 7days a week, 30days a month, 6pm – 3am (9hours). Estimated duration commitment: 270hours per month(average of working hour u n i had)Sales target? I’m talking bout ROI here.Is tis business possible to b done? Yes, definately 270hours of committed time. no leaves & MCs.
Well isnt it close to 2500?ok, for example u want to open a franchise. How much the investment? Same close to RM2500 k. Y open a franchise? Hav u study Geography?Population effect business’s sales not demand. So franchise out to new area of population but remember there is other out there doing the same business! SYN? V are doing the same business under the same roof & under the same system! Tat is d beauty of the business!
Wat company allows u operate in 11 countries wit just RM 2500? (terms & condition apply)Wanna noe more? Again I said, tis business is for every1 but not for 0% IQs who depend on EQs only
Yet like budzz mention (sorry if i’m straight forward & if its hurts ur ego)HE, HIMSELF is NOT a bla,…bla.. HE, HIMSELF is NOT bla, bla..Similiar wit LB_LB did mention SYN is a scam, but where is the facts? Budz ur situation is similiar those failure in the business Y? coz they giv up & dont understand the entity of the business. Lik i said this business is for every1 but not every1 would understand it. Y? IQ, get it? look for 4 d right source of info, my fren.U trust a person who speaks in words on the internet? Or u rather find a person who talks to u face to face? Think!
Another foolish attempt by NC. First and foremost, yes, you don’t have to defend yourself simply because what you said is indeed a reproduction from your so called LB business seminar notes. Well, many would dub it as cheaters’ notes.
Now you want to talk about economic and business development? Btw, it’s economic and NOT economy development. Hilarious. From all your so called LB business seminar you went to, you couldn’t even differentiate economic and economy? What more if you want to talk about ROI? You know what does ROI mean in the first place?
You want facts on what scam SYN is. You need facts to prove a scam? You are in fact, the facts of such scam, only if you get my drift. Considering the level of your immaturity, you’d probably have no idea what I am talking about. Doesn’t matter, you still win because you’re a SYN member!
Wow, you said SYN doesn’t need 0% IQ people to join the network? You must have taken some potion or probably charmed by your upline man, you foolish fella. Is that what’s being told to all you low-ranked-pity-buggers begging and cheating others to join? What a consolation. If you don’t join SYN, means you’re 0% IQ and hence, we don’t need you. What a consolation, indeed!
WooHOOo… so NC, you have 3 companies and still doing this LB business? Very successful person you are. Haha! For the benefits for all of you here, a company can be set up with merely rm 10! So you make your own judgement and don’t be conned into such scam!
Whether you use that rm2500 to open a burger stall, mamak stall, char quah teow, mee rebus or whatever, it’s still better than taking that rm 2500 to dump into a scam. Besides, that doesn’t stop there, you’ll have to beg and cheat your way through to get the returns, if any.
We’re all educated people who have spent years in education. Put some considerable thoughts before you venture into such perpetual, unhealthy and intended scam. Don’t be fooled whenever they bring big names out such as Robert, Donald etc etc…. starbucks, mcD etc etc…. Today’s world doesn’t only revolve around MLM. MLM works but LB & SYN is a scam! You know it and don’t do it!
Have some dignity, show some integrity and Don’t join LB.
To NC, if there isn’t a need to promote your LB and SYN to lure/cheat people to join, then there isn’t a need here as well for you to disseminate your laughing stocks! Buzz off!
Btw NC, you spent almost 2 hours to produce 3 crappy comments. It takes you 2 hours to dilute your knowledge into 3 lousy immature comments. Haih, since you’re just copying from your LB Cheaters’ Notes, you still need 2 hours? What a faggot! A faggot who owns 3 companies!
Quit LB!
aiyaaa len chai..
if u dont like LB nvermind laa..we r not ‘kacauing ur periuk nasi’ lorr..
mind ur own biz n take care of it..okayy?lampe berger is just a product..where is estebelle?ed’pinaud?..haiyarkkk…btw,thanks a lot for calling me a cheater..wut a man who can’t accpt a fact..shame on u…pz give us ur info,i mean a fact ones to tell evrybdy why is syn/LB is sucks relates with fact from d real world..also a prove..plz show us LB_LB
ejam oh ejam, i am not kacau’ing your periuk nasi. I just couldn’t bear with all the lies some LB members said. The more apparent one has to be that particular NC. Okay ejam, ask yourself, when you’re in the seminar, haven’t you being reminded times and times again about kiyosaki…trump….etc…starbucks…mcD…etc…all companies are pyramid scheme….you get controlled by your boss….what biz u can do with rm2500….rm35000….etc etc….
These are all so stereotype man. All that NC said are just ways to camouflaged the bad inheritance of LB and SYN. Come on, have you been to a company which tells you… ey ey if you wanna drive bmw, join LB…. i am earning 5-6 figures, so join LB….. look at the basement of HLA, all the nice cars so if you want, join LB!
These are all nonsense man. I have seen many who had failed. And those who are still in LB will fail as a matter of fact in a matter of time. Stop lying to yourself and stop cheating others. The business Seminars that LB organised are merely to motivate you guys to continue to feed the few top ones!
It’s a sheme! A lousy one! LB and SYN is a scam! Stay away from LB!
im still wondering to ur precious word up there, posted by our fwen NC
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Sep 20th, 2007 at 7:32 pm,
Sep 20th, 2007 at 7:38 pm,
Sep 20th, 2007 at 7:47 pm,
Sep 20th, 2007 at 7:54 pm,
Sep 20th, 2007 at 7:56 pm,
u said u not copied, but how come aaa….u can wrote hundreds of word up there, in less that 5 min, u must be SUPERMAN dude….
HAHAHA…all LB members r d same, when talking, FUIYOOOOOOOOOO….like a super billionair, i think Bill gates also gonna kiss ur feet, but sometimes, what ur r saying without u all realise, makes alot of mistakes…
hey come on la, Dont try 2 manupulate our mind here, by saying all rubish things up there,
if u want to do this bisnes for ur whole life, go ahead,
here, 1 of my fwen saying that, ” I WANT TO JOIN, BUT FIRST, U MUST EAT A DOG SHIT” i think all LB members will do it, as long as u get the downline rite… all of u is so worse, than animal…
wow… NC now u become no 1 comentator in this blog.. well done,
u may take a winning prize for ur most beautiful essays, “HOW TO BECOME A CHEATER N LIAR”
haha..thanks for the comments. is been a great break thru thou u guys being anti of LB but yet i receive tremendous positive comment on the blogs i’ve been replying u guys! I been sending this particular address ask them to read thru it n DIGEST IT NOT DILUTE IT! Numbskull! No wonder u dont get a single info i forward thru! But again tis is just simple understanding on business mind set. Yes u may quote me on economic words but we are pass with SCHOOL syllabus (unless u are still in primary?) I’m talking bout economy business development,dude! – economy = economical business development which save inventory & safe risk. Which business would giv u tat? Back to my frens who called up d other to meet up n start confessed tat this is a very good blog to open ppl’s mind.And positively he join in as a partner, as i said tis is not a get rich fast scheme.it need understanding in FACTS,MIND SET, HONESTY & CLEAR INTENTION.
u sound lik MY GRANDMA, y u worry bout my time on writing this blog? or u r just finding some way to find my mistake? well there is no need 4 tat. Just look 4 ur disputed fren n share tis blog wit him/her. Then he/she will confess how sincere is he/she towards the business and towards ur frenship.Copying? haha funny prove it. Time? How fast u type, dude? Type the things u comes from heart not from ur numbskull! It will show how much u noe wat u getting into. Btw, the more u write the ppl u attract to tis blog but ppl can cc difference between u & s others (me & others, pro-LB)V look for facts & follow the lead of a successfull ppl.No follow a NOBODY. (U want to b somebody?)I dont sit n write 24-7 but i only spend my leisure time, so grandma..wats d prob?
Wow! Dog poo? Wat on earth ppl would say tat n ask U TO EAT? Would u eat it? If not, y shout bout? Well u heard it ur self or is just a fren of a fren story? Read my earliar comment? Well is more than WOORFING (tail wager, S kisser, shielding bhind d word of dignity), OINKING (lazy) & ‘S’cusing other (pointing finger at ppl but not evalute ur on self)In world of business is nature to have Ying n Yang – D more success U become, the more other ppl envy U & try to making U down.N the more u anti *something* the more pro *something* will b attract against anti *something* The Law of Attraction.
So Grandma,..where is my prize?
Again this business has system, only individual makes it different – Look for the right leader to follow, this is my advice for all out there.A righteous leader would lead u how he runs his life, earn the income he earns, honest to u, reach out to others without questioning & more..This r d value V HAV IN SYN! Wat u hav heard has yet manipulated words but heard by fren of a fren of a fren….(a faillure – talk only no action)
Ask u self, hav u really understand wat is ur own company vision & mission?If u dont..it shows tat u r not intune wit ur company spirit. Well, i can pre-assume there is a resignation letter next to u to tender tommorow.Same here in SYN, understand wat is SYN all about, wat r the goals – Which company allows u to do part time? N run with ur own company? Think..Well I’ll c how many ppl will do their ‘homework’ from here..
So u think i’m wrong for sharing my thoughts here? Well I thought this site is for every1?!? So this means I saying the RIGHT THING till u hav buzz me off? Wow wats d purpose of having this site than? So A SWINE!! Hav u get ur facts & intention right? Till then I wait & watch..Btw, r u saying u have 0% IQ? Wow! Congrats! U just become Dumb & Dumber! Search for d facts not d brags.. This business is very systematic yet on PPL MAKES IT DIFFERENT! So speak the same lingo, brothers & sisters!!
hahaha!!! NC oh NC…
Dear NC the LB Bull Shitter,
What is talking you man? You said economic=economy=economical? hahaha! are you in a comic? Dude, please stop embarrass yourself any further, would you?
wow digest not DILUTE? You just learned a new word rite, you copy cat! haha! Again proven, you’re nothing good other than copying and parroting what others say. You know what, this business really suits you man. You can copy all your LB Cheaters’ Notes and Cheat innocent people. Keep it up!
So what happen to your facts? What happen to your investment perspective of rm 2500? What happen to your deliberate ROI? No more facts and now you turn to be a true beggar, begging for sympathy and begging and conning and cheating your way through to get downline. You faggot! your pathetic scam won’t work over here! If you wanna go on contributing, go ahead, you faggot! We actually find your posts quite funny and entertaining.
Wow, you actually told you LB uplines, LB Friends about this blog? about what we write? You guys actually discussed it in one of your HLA sessions rite? HAHAHA! so they must have taught you what else to cheat! Come on, ask yourself donkey, what else you guys know other than planning and finding new ways to cheat people???!!! What a faggot, and you even dare say you own 3 companies! HAHAHA!!!
Ey dei, of course LB allows you to do part time man. Because all you do is just to cheat. SOrry, other companies never teach their workforce to cheat. Thats why i say, LB really suits you man!
Go stick to your SYN!
For the rest, stay away from LB!
oh btw, antilampberger said the wrong thing about you.
NC, you don’t eat dogpoo. You’re a dogpoo!
hahaha!!!
haha thanks 4 ur immature comments, guess u hav not yet do ur homework! Think wit ur brain, NUMBSKULL! No point of accusing wit out facts. I thought U WOULD ELABORATE wat is ROI, since u sound SO CONFIDENT IN LB there is no ROI! (return of investment). Do ur homework look for prove, if u strongly say LB is cheating! Look 4 authorities, NGOs & lawyers – consult wit them. Dont keep on passing BULL S!!U r just a SABOTEUR witout facts & wit competitors interest! Y i said tat, u pro other mlm but not LB! So u r from mlm background?!! SYN is BUILDING A MARKET n not emphasizing on direct selling! So u hav been doing direct selling? Dude, CHECK MATE!
Dear Faggot NC,
so your definition of ‘elaborate’ is telling others what ROI stands for? what a joke! Well probably thats how far your shallow knowledge bring you about. For goodness sake, SYN aint building market, SYN is bulding its own cheaters’ network. And with inclusion of such people like you, The people on top will be very happy because you’re working your dogshit out from it by cheating and cheating people to feed the few top people. Yes NC, you can do whatever you like, no one is stopping you. Go and cheat all your friends and family. Worse still, you’d probably had taken up all ur parents hard earned money! Only time will tell when you fail and start crawling back begging to the society to re-accept you. Damn, i didn’t know a person who has already owned 3 companies have such shallow mentality! Aiyah well, maybe this ’3companies’ scam is thought by your upline to gain confidence from others. Typical SYN!
Stay away from LB & SYN!
Keep it up, faggot NC!
hey…
ur 1st target is not selling product la man…
u think i dunno., ur main concern is captured new investor to join ur bisnes…until when?????
u guys r damn stupid, ur get commision from the new investor, rite????
if ur marquis u get 40% of the sales, if u bring the new investor…
don act like u so intelligent, in fact u r more stupid like a cow…
u get ur salary, from the new investor that ur cheating…
if there is no new investor, at that months, what u get????
10 Figures???HAHAHA….
by d way, i have 5 companies, 6000 workers, 2 mercedes, 1 ferari, 2 mini cooper, 10 Z4, 10 bunglow, 20 condo,
HEY LB LOSERS out there wake up la….
everybody can say like that,
that is one of ur shitty strategy, to cheat the new bisnes partner…’
im sick n tired 2 listen 2 all such things, if u can earn 5-6figurs every month…like all u said, CONFIRM…!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no need 4 u to come 2 HLA building everyday, work like a dog, only the STEVEN YIP up there get rich….
dAMN LOSER
well said, antilampbergermalaysia…
this NC is an ultimate loser-faggot-dumb-SYN-shoe-licker-cheater!
and he owns 3 companies! haha.. what a laughing stock!
coppied from the person name AWEKS, monday 24 september….
Bukan nak menambah bara..tapi inilah kenyataan..
asalnya saya nie bukan jenis orang yang suka berhutang, tapi sejak kenal LB nie jadi ler saya kaki hutang..dok asik kena kejar ngan bank dan surat saman..saya percaya betul dengan seorang kawan saya yang baru saya kenal kat tempat keje..Baiknya tuhan sajer yang tahu, lembut gigi dari lidah, take care pasal saya dan family dan apa saja masalah saya kononnya cuba dia settlekan..satu hari tue dia ajak saya g LB..kat situlah syurga lampu minyak tanah LB..dengan gaya dan style yang menggoda sapa-sapa pun akan tergoda nak berjaya macam diaorang..dari situ kawan saya mula buka citer…kat LB jerlah yang best kat dunia luar tak best…start dari tue paksa pulak g NDO, follow up tiap-tiap hari, paksa saya buat loan(apakah yang didefinasikan dengan paksaan LB? siap follow up dan tolong isikan borang loan oleh upline saya tue!) upline saya siap bawak saya g bank tiap-tiap hari..kenapa?? sebab nak dapat kan modal 30000 ringgit, mana saya ada duit dengan gaji saya yang hanya basic rm 1500! so apa plan upline saya??
6 kredit kad=3000x 6
=18000
bank rakyat =10000
CIMB =7000
so total =35000
itu belanja untuk LB sajeee…
cuba tengok pulak yang saya kena bayar kat bank;
6 kredit kad=150x 6
=900
bank rakyat =258
CIMB =300
so total =1458 sebulan daripada gaji saya 1500 sebulan!!
2 tiga bulan saya bertahan dengan LB walaupun saya masih tak dapat-dapat lagi downline..pikiran saya orang yang tak nak join LB nie sebenarnya minda diaorang nie tak terbukak..walaupun saya tahu susah payah, tapi saya stay lah jugak dgn LB sebab modal dah pun kuar banyak…sampailah satu hari tue saya dapat msg dari orang LB yang ber bunyikk..”perhatian, ramai dari LB yang bangkrap! sila buat buat sokongan untuk membuat tabung bagi kawan-kawan yang bangkrap ini..!) sejenak saya berfikir..saya ambik keputusan untuk stop dari LB..bukan sebab saya malas atau putus asa! tapi saya takut dan tak sanggup rasanya bila saya mengajak diorang join LB…sapa nak jawab bila kawan jatuh susah?? jatuh bankrap?? ada ker upline LB nak amik tau?? macam saya sekarang nie mana ada orang LB nak tanya kabar dah..bila dah tak buat LB, langsung dah tak tanya kabar berita..hilan sudah kawan baik!!sekarang saya sedar yang amat! kadang-kadang kita kena ukur kemampuan kita jugak! tak semua yang berjaya walaupun berusaha keras pun andai takdir tak mengizinkan..fikir-fikirkanlaa …
just to reiterate what antilampber said about NC, which is so true…
‘NC, dun act like you’re so intelligent, infact you’re more stupid than a cow’
HAHAHA… really crack me up! good one! and it’s sooo true!!!
more negative feedback compared 2 positive…
if u want to stick to dis unethical bisnes.,
go ahead LB MEMBERS…
but if i see u want 2 persuade me, to join this bisnes,
i akn ludah muka u all…
because the people like u, deserve it….
u are worst than animal….
HAHA… LB_LB
we will see,
how far this company, will go…HAHA
usualy an owner of 3 compenies wudn’t have time to do such stupid things like joining LB.dun u have enough money to support ur own life?n wat did u get by joining LB??other income??by wat?cheating other ppl to join LB??o u juz have to get ur money back by influence other ppl to join LB so dat u get ur money back??
my fren juz said that most LB members get bankrupt coz joining LB.they hav 2 apply for loan of 30k to join LB.but their salary only rm1500 per mnth…
their upline teach them how 2 get the money by applying 6credit cards from bank to get 18k n apply from other bank to get 12k.then later her upline didn’t even care bout her after she joins…but before she join…her upline really ‘take care’ of her well being…such a good liar…
oOOoo..LB members…i know most of u are malay…i dun understand y u being so stupid in joining LB n cheat other ppl money…dun u realize that at the end the 1 who become rich is STEVEN YEAM…a chinese which i can gurentee that he doesn’t even know ur name…but u know all bout him coz u praise him a lot…u say all the gud stuff dat he did by doing all the charity work n stuff..if u really wanna do gud things…
y dun u juz go to mosque n donate sum of money…by using a valid income of money but not other ppl’s money…coz at the end of the dat…da 1 who get rich wont even bother bout u…whether u cud find a downline or not…is not their problem…coz they only get profit from u…all they hav to do.is juz sit at home…but u r the 1 who has to do all the hard work…
think bout it..
nice comment me hot…
shame on u la NC…
have 3 companies, stil wasting ur time, give ur dumb pint here, and the most stupid things, join LB….HAHAHA..
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Hey Faggot NC, you go suck your steven yeam’s foot lar!
For the others, please read the following link. It’s a true expose of LB and SYN SCAM!
http://www.consumer.com.my/message/index.php?itemid=850
LB & SYN to die!
either way, SYN has already made tons of money expecially the people on top. For dumb faggot like NC, he’ll forever be sucking others’ foot and cheat his way through!
Stay away from LB!
haha…
they r true faggot, not appear anymore here…
y????
afraid ah???????????
or u have already copy and paste all the fake article from what ur upline gave..
and then claiming that, its ur idea..
shame on u la…….
wow impresive!!!
i c half only laugh until i cant stand of it anymore.
1st i wan to say i’m a D.C.H.L member and i’m a Count!
D.C.H.L is not under L.B ok.
under D.C.H.L we got Estebal and Spa and Ed. Pinaud.
that is latast one.
don know right??because u guys don understand the company at all.
don tell me Ed. Pinaud is u guys so call “Shit” product!
cause u can get a lot of Info about thie brand.
if this company really so sucks this so call super brand wont join this company to destroy thier own name.this is common sence go think!
i remember got one guy say malaysia gov list down the scam comp list and LB involve right??
1st i wanna ask wat company name in the list?
if u tell me is LB or D.C.H.L then i wan to congrat u cause”U R WRONG!!”
and how come suddenly it removed??
cause after the investigation gov prove the company r clear!!
and we do coorperate with govr do few of the charity.
if u guys wan to say this is the company tactic is up to u guys.
one last thing i understand some people do use the stupid method to reqruit people.but that is only few of them.
ok la tired d.i hope u guys can really look into one thing b4 u guys wan to give any omment about it.
Hi to every1,
i’m a member of syn n i hav been doing tis biz about 8months,
althought i dun drive a sport car n i dun hav 5figure income,
but i’m glad i join tis company,it’s true some1 is using our compony method to cheat ppl out there,its not de company prob but the ppl prob,
i earn an average income of 4figures per month,its enough 4 me as i’m helping my frenz in tis biz,i’m helping to solve my family money prob,i agree not every1 can accept our biz,i respect u,for those syn member pls do tis biz in a bettet way,if u promise to help ur patner,make sure u do it,hopefully i’m going to challenge for marquiship in the month of dec2007,if i could make it there,my life n my family wil change as well,i respect every1 posting here,u hav ur point of view,tat is always gd n bad thing happening around us,so do take care,tat’s all 4 now,cya !
another stupid message from danny lim…hahaha
come la man, wake up..after this what is ur another story, Robert Kiyosaki? Donald Trump? Bill Gates?
true faggot n loser…
haha..
u dont say la they join LB thats y they get rich…HAHAHA
hi danny,
do you find the posts here funny? you’re laughing at the posts? Nah, you are not. You are actually laughing at yourself for being in such scam and being a cheater and a retarded faggot!
Don’t tell us what we already know. Or rather, don’t deceive us. It won’t work here. Go camp at you HLA or go con those innocent young college kids out there.
Of course DCHL have all other sorts of nonsense like spa, ed pinaud, lb etc etc… DCHL needs such diversification so that the people like you can cheat easier! LB is going down the drain and the only way to revive is to come out other shitty products or other scams.
Stay away from LB DCHL ESTEBEL whatever! just stay away from such SHIT! These people are desperate and now they are coming with all other nonsense with further intention to cheat people!
LB to die! Danny and NC can have Steven YEAM!
To all faggots that against LB (especially LB_LB)
Don’t be childlish, look at us and look again at yourself, then you’ll know why you still driving kancil being a scum bag in this society. (Or maybe you don even own a kancil) The truth is, u don’t know how LB works, u don understand, because you don have a mindset of successful person. LB to die??? I think u die first, hell also don wanna accept scum bag like you! Behave!!!
Hey steven-yeam-poo-licker JS,
The mindset in each n all of you LB members are to cheat and become rich fast. JS, you deserve no respect. So what if we ever drive a kancil or don’t even have a car? At least we make an honest and ernest living. Unlike you who cheats your friends, relatives and even beg your way through to gain sympathy. Damn JS, with you having such character, you’d probably already squandered all your parents’ hard earned money. In your lousy LB talks, you guys are always reminded of giving a god life to your parents rite? hell Yeah! it’s considered a bonus for not having to worsen their lives!
Damn retarded-faggot JS,
Of course Hell doesn’t accept us, BECAUSE Hell is specially reserved for LB members who cheat especially you, JS!
Take your time to die, there’s already a place in hell reserved for you!
LB to Die! Stay away from LB!
JS, you can have steven yeam’s poo all you like!
Everybody,
This is a typical way of how LB members behave.
1st, they try to talk lousy immature facts.
2nd, beg for sympathy
3rd, when nothing works…..
4th, curse people to death…hell…etc…
Typical LB members. Ashame to the society. Pity Your parents, JS! hey jS, Go on sniffing and licking your precious Steven Yeam’s poo all you want!
To the rest, Stay away from LB.
LB to DIE!
hey dick head JS…..the only thing u knw how Lb work is by cheating ppl lar…don try to bullshit here man…finding downline n sucking their money…this is how LB works..right.. come on lar JS…WAKEUP!!!!if u knw how Lb works, than reveal it here lar…we r educated person dude…not cheater lik u.
kancil???hey even with 2500..nowdays can buy one 2nd hand kancil…with own money….rather than cheated my maggots lik u lar…bcos u ppl some suffering outside…feel shame on u LB idiots….
hahaha!!! dickhead JS!!! nice one!!!
Hi Dickhead JS
Hahaha!!! Dickhead JS!!! Nice one!
Hi Dickhead JS
PEACE !! My English is not as good as the people above. Just to inform tat I’m sure what i type here will sure occurs criticism but what my intension is to get my answer. Please give me a solution or answer if YOU ALL have one. I read it all the comments and replies from 12am to almost 3.30 am, actually WHAT IS THE PURPOSE AND INTENSION for those people who talk bad about LB, are you an EX-LB member or someone related very close to you who is an EX-LB member who is a failure in LB biz or either YOU heard the Negative news from others and claim it and modified it as your own news anyway also doesn’t matter. Not to give advice or anything, but for those DCHL-SYN’s MEMBERS, i felt SO ASHAME and STUPID to wrote a comment here coz eventually i read this whole page of conversation and is REALLY WASTING TIME. Don’t you think this kind of conversation doesn’t end ? the more you say the more people will be offended or defended. WE WANT PEACE SO DON’T START A WAR(bcoz we don’t like war doesn’t mean that we can’t fight)(A stupid explanation is a offend/defend that will cause war). Action speak louder than words. The person who create this blog is a VERY SMART PERSON and its almost 2 years, WHY ?? BCOZ YOU WANT TO RELEASE ALL YOUR ANGER AND HATES but sometimes got STUPID fella like me that reply the STUPID comments. FOR DCHL-SYN’s PARTNERS, STOP REPLYING AND STOP VIEWING AT THIS KIND OF WEBSITE AND STARTS ACTION ON YOUR OWN GOALS SETTING. TIMES WE PAST AND THINGS THAT HAPPENED WILL BE FADED OUT !! THANK YOU IF YOU APPROVE MY REPLY !! PEACE !!
let say I start a network biz, mlm biz or pyramid biz…my main product..let say Nike…so i say i started francise biz…and demand Rm2.5K to get Rm600 Nike shoe…wakakaka…i could make some money here..
You could find LAMPE BERGER DIFUSSER LIMITED here in e-bay also:-
http://www.ebay.com.my/viItem?ItemId=330169133583
I could make Rm8K nett permonth with traditional biz with RM35K…just focus on necessity…
At least 80% of posts in this site are pointless accusations and mockery which is not even worth reading(i point out at both anti-lb AND pro-lb). The anti-lb will of course condemn SYN/DCHL whereas the pro-lbs will counter, both being childish and speaks out based on what they have experienced or through another party without thinking thoroughly.
Now, I’ll be speaking on behalf of both sides which is the pro-lb and the anti-lb.
Because i have found this to be a very crucial reply and one of the most constructive reply towards anti-lb, i will paste for others to read and analyze.
As for the anti-lb:
SYN/DCHL have never claimed itself to be a “get rich quick” scheme. From the replies here, the way i see that people have absolutely no idea what they are even talking about before making their point worth arguing. LB is only a product. Much like any other product out there you see, McDonald, handphones, notebooks, etc. MLM is still direct sales. Thats a fact, but the way this business work is not just being emphasized on selling products. It is selling a business plan, a franchisee lecense. Name me a company that offers you a franchisee license for RM2500. McD, Starbucks, Coffeebean all these costs millions for initial start up of obtaining a franchisee. What do you get when you have this franchisee license? You are entitled to open a shop, and duplicate the system. See any differences among all KFC/Coffeebean/Starbucks/McD’s? They’re all the same in terms of shop design, the way they operate and product wise (with tweaks to make sure products suited the country). What you are doing is only duplicating a working system. This is very much what SYN/DCHL is doing, selling a business plan, franchising license, and duplicating the success downwards.
If you have time, do a search and you will find out that MLM is indeed different from pyramid/ponzi scheme. If you insist on arguing that LB is under a pyramid scheme, then what about the corporate world? Dont u think that it is also a pyramid scheme where the chairman/ceo/director are all at the highest level and there can only be a few of them. Then broken down to managerial level where there are more managers downwards, then slowly sales team, marketing team, etc and it goes on downward and then finally perhaps you might be one of them employees at the base of the tree. You are earning a fixed income of say RM2000. If you are in the sales line, your earnings + commission is your salary. You work hard to sell products and get a small fraction for your effort. All the money goes to your boss in the end. He gets 75% while the 25% is split downwards. Now obviously this isnt fair that you do all the work while he is playing golf right? But this has been the case and this has indeed been put into our mindset that we employees are suppose to work while bosses go do business by playing golf or flying elsewhere for business talks. So people see that as normal but doing LB is not normal? The business pratice in LB is very fair, it rewards the ones who put in the effort and as every corporation I believe it applies the same thing. Reward the hardworking ones, kick out the slacking ones. In LB, you slack, you waste your investment in obtaining a franchisee. Simple as that, and what is rm2500 right now for an investment for your own business compared to say opening a shop or a cafe, which requires a hefty rm50k capital to start up. Is Rm2500 such a big amount to fork out? Some people has probably spent more than Rm5000 in cigarettes over their years of smoking. Why is it that people are willing to pay money to breath in bad air and not good air? Think about it, how foolish and stupid can you be if you are supporting the fact that paying to have your life shortened or worst still, affecting the people around you is ‘not a bad thing to do, everyone does it’.
Im sure a few of you guys have heard of a famous quote:
‘I would rather have 1% from 100 man, than 100% from 1 man’
Based on the quote, its much easier to ask the 1% of help that anyone can provide, but it is a lot harder to ask 100% of help from 1 man.
-posted by an anonymous
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hmmm anti mlm doesnt seem to have much strong point other than saying bullshit or cheater because it is cheating or losing friends… if you look at it at a rational point, it is true that the whole thing works much like a kfc, starbucks franchising. At syn, however, the company work smarter, they sell both the franchise license and the product at the same time (the people who pays the rm2.5 also gets the product), in other words, they company gets an unlimited supply of advertising agents, while at the same time selling out their product. How do they afford to pay people at the uplines more than 10k a month? because they receive %net profit from the product being sell more (another advertising agent) -in a sense that is how the company 1. gets profit 2. kill off competitors (this is in view of traditional market theory) 3.remove the need for an advertising fund.
correct me again if i’m wrong, if a company is able to make profit, then how would it be a scam? cause the business itself is able to sustain itself. paying high ranks in the company like duke or whatever is actually like paying for a CEO in a traditional company-because they actually helped the company made the money.
If one did do their research, Lampe Berger is a well established company with a 100 years history. But there’s of course a downside to mlm. but its beyond shallow selfish minds, mlm is actually able to kill a society and at the same time stop the growth of existing products (as well as i had mentioned before -clean effective annihilation of competitors; leaving little or no consumer choice on product brands) How does mlm kills a society? when you get educated persona like doctors, engineers to became fulltime business franchiser, how would a society sustain itself? how would industry develop new technologies or build the product?
for those who don’t only think of themselves, social issues is actually at hand- there’s too much unfairness in capitalism- that is how mlm is born. mlm is radical and probably could not support the growth of a society but people are opting to enjoy better lives that traditional business are not willing to provide (traditional companies absorb too much of the profit).
Please correct me if i’m wrong with this perception: i’m just an observant. Anti mlm please stop using retarded reasons by just saying bullshit or cheater because it is cheating or losing friends, you guys are losing on the rationale side because pro mlm are making more rationalize sense (indicating most of them are rather educated professionals).
Justification are well needed.
- posted by observer
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However, as for the pro-lb’s, i do have a few say for you guys.
First of, why bother replying with inappropriate name-callings? Aren’t you better off practicing your product knowledge or rather doing your business plan or again looking for prospects whatsoever? If you are doing well, why bother coming to a site like this and speak as though you are a child? You are only putting a bad name to SYN/DCHL by acting so. The people here are different, they’re a society who felt they’ve got cheated and they have their reason. And the reason they feel that way is mainly because of YOU. Why else is there an anti-lb? Why would people hate SYN? It’s because of people like you.
I notice there’s a huge number of people who do not practice the right way of doing business. Their product knowledge is somewhat limited therefore they tend to do things their own way without understanding how their possible-partners feel. Without the right practice/culture and without the correct product knowledge, how do you expect to earn the trust of the others into getting them to invest their money? Well words are easily said than done, and at least 70% of the uplines i believe have not kept their promise. If you said u’ll help, make sure u do it. Others that couldnt make it to the top like the rest will fall, and complaint and start mockeries such as this site. It is NOT because of SYN/DCHL or rather the business plan it is because of you yourself. From there ignorance will grow resulting to blaming even the company and products itself.
I can only say, if you’re willing to run a business, be sure u do it sincerely and smartly. Money will flow in any business and it doesnt matter if it’s conventionally or MLM whatsoever. It’s how smart you handle yourself.
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To answer a few doubts for the anti-lbs:
1. Students quit school after joining lb’s, well only 18+’s are allowed to join the business and we believe they have their rights to decide to work or to study.
2. LB/Estabelle/Ed. P are products, SYN is the business plan, DCHL is the company that puts everything together. Get your facts right.
3. Luxury cars are the best and easiest way to impress anyone, though there are many who owns a condo or two. You dont expect to talk someone into joining a business when you have only a proton wira to show, do u? By showing u have a luxury car, thats the first sign of what u’ve achieved. The message is, if i can own this car by doing SYN, why cant u?
4. Steven Yeam, celebrities, events at numerous locations. Again these are ways of impressing others.
5. MLM is a multi-human business. Dont blame ur frens for doing a follow-up, it’s his job. Every company does a follow-up; its a system. Business deals dont just stop there after one discussion is made. Ur frens just seem do things the wrong way making u feel uncomfortable about it.
6. Of course your upline will earn more than you. BUT if you’re more active than ur upline, u WILL earn more than him. Are you afraid of whatever u do, ur upline gets the benefits? As long as u run faster than him, u will surely earn more.
Just keep in mind, u’re doing a MLM similar like McD’s, but in a smaller scale and easier to do. U run out of stocks, u need to buy to sponsor ur downlines. Burgers are made to sell. LB’s/etc are made to sell. The marketing plan is there. Listen more to the rumours whatsoever from over the internet whatsoever, will only cause more problem. Why listen to 2nd hand stories when u can analyze things yourself? Before you join, do ur homework on how MLM works, company background/profile, foresee the business plan and put a conclusion to it if it is after all a scam. U may make comparisons with other MLM’s which have fallen. If u think it wont work, then simply dont join. No one is forcing you. If u are forced by ur frens, then yes ask ur frens to build a bridge and jump off of it.
So i urge both parties to think about it. Its pointless to argue and mock each other like this. It’ll never end. But to be honest and on my POV, SYN/DCHL will continue doing well for at least 5years (until the whole country is in SYN perhaps, jokes). Whereas the anti-lb’s will just continue mocking and complaining not getting anything in return. U’re only gonna cause tension for both sides.
Thanks for reading.
PEACE, i have no idea what you’re talking about.
Stay away from LB!
Dickhead JS can eat, sniff, enjoy all of Steven Yeam’s poo, waste, etc… HAHA!
LB to DIE!
Nuffsed and other LB members,
Can you guys have something newer in mind to say?
DO homework 1st? Starbucks? KFC? MCD? Trump? Kiyosaki? 100 years? Established?
You have used up everything from your cheaters’ notes.
A saint and civilised person would know how insignificant LB is, hence, staying away from LB.
Go try your recruitment elsewhere!
LB to die!
Thanks Nuffsed for the detailed comments
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LB_LB, FYI i never gone from tis web (i always here n watch how many ppl provide feed backs from the homeworks i mentioned. Like I said b4 u guys has been tail waggin n shootin blank bullets. Look for facts, dude.. FACTS!!
U have been accusing false statement dont u think so? Read back ur comment on: Oct 10th, 2007 at 10:16 am. Wat is the foot note u been posting? Wat bout the earlier posting, much earlier posting? Think..
Btw, this link http://www.consumer.com.my/message/index.php?itemid=850 is fake! Is it non gov n non NGO interest in the site. Why? There is no pengguna logo n is not tide up wit any gov or NGO activities. any1 can purchase ‘com.my’ This is a lik any other web forum.Its easy to noe which is real.If is Malaysia, why isn’t a gov logo shown?
Here is some REAL stuff for u guys!
Gabungan Persatuan-Persatuan Pengguna Malaysia
http://www.fomca.org.my/bmalay/index.php
reports on DCHL: none
Laman Web Rasmi PPIM: Aduan Pengguna (this site is for Islamic verify on halal goods or halal practice in business)
http://www.muslimconsumer.org.my/ppim/page.php?14
reports on DCHL: none
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Comment on anti lampe berger malaysia post on
Oct 1st, 2007 at 1:06 pm
coppied from the person name AWEKS, monday 24 september….
- Why the heck Aweks get into hot soup? Is it bcoz of her own greed on high ROI? (Individual fault? Or her upline did not explain pros n cons on wat she will face? (Upline fault? Individual fault NOT COMPANY!)
Summary:Aweks should hav told this ‘I’m not comfortable on getting loans n hav high debts, plz let me start small n tis may provide me time to understand more on the business’- remember the momentum of the business is determine by ur self.
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What u care if I own how many biz? A businessman would seek opportunities to built a future. Thanks btw, how u noe i lik meatballs? Btw I’m very ‘gay’man n I lik to use burning stick to shove it into ur S! (check the dictionary on the word ‘faggot’ and ‘gay’).
Dear Faggot-NC, of course you’re always here. This is your job. What else better can you do other than conning and cheating people?
No one cares how many companies you own. You’re the one shamelessly declared to the whole world that you owned 3 companies. What a faggot!
We, non LB members, don’t play with burning sticks neither do we shove things up your S! Go to HLA and get your S shoved man. I mean, hey, you must have been so used to it. What a spastic!
You want facts? Facts are all stated in the trail of this discussion. We don’t repeat facts. Besides, what’s the use of talking facts with faggots/cheaters/conman (am outta words to describe your stupidity) like you?
Furthermore, you’re just parroting and repeating all your cheaters’ notes. Stop it man! you can’t fool us here!
Get a life and get a real job! Faggot!
Funny, facts? repeating? Tat is y u dont learn a single thing here!
Think bout tis : JOB = working for ppl + no time + dont own / no entitlement on the post of inheritance.Correct me if i’m wrong – do u see it happen in ur life?
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Wat is the reason u work? U invested XX amount of time to get XX amount of $$, life duration 55years old max.
Wat is the reason u built a business or do business? U invest XX amount of $$ to earn XXX amount of $$, life duration determine by u. ( wasnt it good to take charge of ur life?
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Since u r so confidence in wat u r doing ur JOB, tell me wat job is the best in the market! U keep on say find a job, tell wat job may provide u TIME + $$ + FUTURE & wat is the life span?
NC, you’re a conman. LB is a scam. All will eventually fail. If you think LB can give you $$$, future, time, unlimited life span, THEN you’re very WRONG. It will not succeed. Many had failed and soon the whole system will be brought down. So, please stop conning others and affect others’ wellbeing. If you like to suck STeven Yeam’s foot so much, you can go ahead and have it all by yourself. Don’t con innocent people into such cult. NC, you’re a conman and shame on you, shame on your parents, i pity your children, and you’re such a garbage to the society. Get a life and stop dreaming of getting rich fast. Yes, dream is part of success BUT LB won’t get you anywhere near to success! Get lost lar, retarded fool! Just like what the author of this blog says…. Lampberger? Bullshit!!!
So NC, tell me, how many will succeed in LB? 1 out of 10,000? or probably 1 out of 100,000? why hasn’t there been any promotion to marquis this year? How many Steven Yeams are there? Only 1, and all you cheaters are cheating money for your uplines, hoping one day you’ll be enjoying what they are. I tell you, this won’t happen.
Do you want to succeed in the expense of others? DO you want to sacrifice 100 of your friends so that you can be a marquis? For goodness sake, how many more people do you wanna cheat? Are you happy to see your close ones, relatives and friends to be cheated and in debt so that you can be successful? Damn! what are you thinking man???!!!
Stop this bullshit! and What LB_LB says is right. Go get a real job!
u all bad mouth about a well known company… don’t u feel guilty about it?? maybe u will feel guilty if someday this DCHL/SYN company sue you… watch out… don’t just post something u don’t even know… think again.. if this company cheated… y do the malaysian government give them the permission to rent office in front of the zimbabwe embassy???
and one more thing…. LB is just a product…. I repeat… LB is just a product!!!!!!!!!… don’t u all understand the word product??????? DCHL/SYN/RZ corporation is the company who distribute this product…. and for god sake…. this company have Lampe berger, Ed pinaud, Estebel and also a spa… if you still say it is a scam… try check mingguan wanita magazine dated 1/10/2007 if i’m not mistaken…. they have a promotion about this Estebel product….they already 100 year in this business… more experience if you want to compare witth other MLM such as amway, Hai-O marketing or whatsoever…… Im not one of them but still I trust in them because I already been in their spa…. it so luxurious….. u all must try it once….. don’t just waste your time here barking…. go, see and experience it for yourself….
Ahh Anonymous, is the damn system that gets the product moving. Hence, the scam. Hence, the Cheaters like you!
Stop barking man. Pathetic LB Fools!!!
hey anonymous, what you smoking man?
we are NOT the ones that should feel guilty, YOU SHOULD!
Stop using those sympathetic begging tactics to buy us into your lousy LB Scam. Go join your other non-sensical LB Fools in HLA. Faggot!
WOW !!! ALL BAD COMMENT ON LB… WHY NOT SO ALL BUAT MOGOK DEPAN HLA BUILDING..JUST NOTHING IFF YOU ALL FUCK EACH OTHER HERE MEN..
mogok? fuck? typical LB members la must be! waste of time to even go there man! go lick your steven’s toes lar you. what you doin here? You’re running out of time to recruit people man. Do as much as you can before it’s closed down. Don’t forget to buy position and invest one shot rm 40-60K ok? the more the better. The more you invest, the higher the return. Faster faster. Go Faggot!
this is for all SYN members
i want to sell my product
i lack of money
show ur support towards SYN members
those who are interested can contact me at
Nad_iera@yahoo.com
Hahaha. there isn’t even a chance any of them will buy from you. Even if they do, they’d probably have ulterior motive, expecting and trying to con you to invest more.
so what happen to your upline? aren’t there supposed to help?
Well, anonymous, i wish you best of luck!
btw, i thought all SYN members have 5-6 figures every month, driving BMWs etc etc… hmm… i just wonder… hahaha!!!
It just shows how lousy the whole system is!
LB SYN to die!
hi there….can any1 advice me wther to join this kind of biz or not…coz i don have any xperience in this kind of MLM biz…can u guys out there gif me proof wther this biz is good or not….
well LB_LB I can see that u are soooo anti with LB but 1 thing that make me sooo curious.. y u still use that nickname LB_LB if, like u say u are so anti with LB.. y don’t u use ANTI_LB… u use that nick it make me soooo confuse… and I dare u to come visit me anytime at HLA if u dare!!!!!! b’cos i know i’m not doing sumthing wrong… if, like u say u are sooo right about LB then…. come see me prove it to me that we all wrong…. I dare u…. u want to take the challenge or not??????? ehm???? what u say???????
and 1 more thing… the upline not suppose to search a downline for their partner… becos it will make ur partner lazy… don’t u think like that too???? or u are sooo kind that u want to find ur every partners a downline???? (every MLM doesn’t encourage the upline to help the partner search for a downline)they just giving out advices..that’s all…
and about that magazine actually it not mingguan wanita… it’s jelita magazine… issue october… go and check first before u continue posting here….
Dear people. I would like to share something from my point of view. We are all been made in this with world with different capabilities and skills. That’s why we can see some people are well in their lifestyle and career. But not all achieve the same in life. Do you agree with the fact. Now let me tell you all something ,do you agree that we are pursuing our studies in order to get a better life in future? It’s that a promising fact on it. Do you see what’s going on in nowadays
economies. Lots of graduate with no job. Knowing nothing to do only have mind with full of theory. Can we earn a good life or achieve our dream with doing nothing at all. That’s bullshit right?. I am also a graduate with years of experience in works. Still hard to survive in this world . what exactly that we understand about MLM. Is it only the definition. If you study more about the approach it’s actually been use in most of the company such as banking and financial industry, marketing industry and others. Lets see MLM, the higher level you are the bigger you earn. So in a company the higher ranking you are the higher you earn, right?.
1) for student :- To achieve a high ranking position you must have higher qualification right? So how many people ( parents) invest on you to studied. If you failed your study you didn’t study hard right? Implied the same to MLM no matter how much you invest you must work hard to success . do you think you have put all of your effort? If yes then you pass your study, and if yes you achieve
higher earning (MLM).
- thank god some student eagerly do this MLM because they know how to repay others.most of the student actually enjoying their life in campus and put only small effort on studying. Yes you can graduate but with the help of ( toyol) ( for some student). Any promising job? Depends?.
- So don’t band those student doing MLM while studying because the gain the knowledge of life and skill of marketing from it. If they can graduate they are doing great in managing their life and time in studies.
In life some of us was born with a silver spoon in a mouth. Does everybody are that damn lucky? Accept the fact not all. So there’s nothing wrong for people who want
Struggle to achieve their dreams.
Some fact in career cycle :-
1) being an employer :-
- we get our career based on our qualification. Our in come are fixed basis . for those who unlucky based on contract basis. Can we earn more? Only if we been promoted.
- How many higher position are there in an organization. Limited right. Some people do a great job but not been promoted due to not been appreciate by the upper boss. Why? Simply because the boss don’t likes you personally. Some always been promoted even not doing a job well. Why? Always being a ‘yes boss’ person even if the thing actually non related ( personal) matter. This is actually the real deception. And it’s a fact in real work environment.
- When a company decided to shrink. The lower level feel the impact more. With lower earning what else can you do.
- In order for a company to strive the multi level marketing takes place. Higher level in marketing will push all down level to the limit. Even you are not in sales line , your whole career appraisal based on your sales. Isn’t it better if we stay in a sales line.no double work.
- For one self If 90% person of earning comes from doing business only 10% from being an employer. Which should you choose to put your all effort.
- When sales achieve target who get the credit. Some company for the lower level your bonus are fixed. Your increment , that’s depend on your union to fight for it. Even if the company earn high yield for the year.
- Don’t blame anyone. For that’s the life you have chosen and you don’t want to open up your mind for the bigger world.
2) Opening up a business :-
- great now you are opening up your mind for doing business. Do you have all that it takes to run a business.
- Small business need small capital and so small earning. Big business need bigger capital and so bigger earning. Just like MLM.
- do you have the knowledge from your narrow previous job routine to run a business. Do you easily get bigger finance for a bigger promising business. Network? Support? . can you started with high quality product imported with a small capital? Can you ought to do an exclusive promotion? Should you pay for courses to learn about business? Do you have thousand of friend to share about running a business?.
- Not all of us are so lucky to have it all right?. Fact about running a business are not all business really success in the first 2-3 month open up. If unlucky we get that Bankruptcy Declaration.
- Higher lobby needed for higher contract ? is it a fact. You judge it yourself.
3) running MLM business :-
- you can start with a fixed optional capital. Depends on how you look at the marketing system. No working paper needed . Same like studying , high invest for higher and better education. In business high capital for bigger deal.
- No resume needed as your potential based on your effort and willingness.
- Knowledge of marketing , management and others. Group of sharing knowledge. Courses provided on small amount based on sharing basis.
- Multi national product, exclusive promotion , high profile office and systematic provided. Easy promotion based on potential. high insured of product provided.
- So an MLM company also works just like a professional bodies with government approval.
In conclusion there’s nothing wrong actually on building an MLM business.
What important is your own effort faith on the company. Same like working in a company , you put your faith on it. The important thing is knowing the business and profile of the company. We can’t blame others if we not success on it for everything is provided . It is up to yourself on how much effort have you put on it. Judge on your own either you are capable to do it or not. The company provide everything so your task would be just the same as an insurance agent , unit trust agent and others by doing marketing for commission.
Yes I do agree some of the ‘bad apple’ make the things worse. Its a fact in this world that they are everywhere in every line of business and also in workplace. This also implied in Direct selling world but the differences are the system on generating your income. Every market would create their own system to improve their sales.
For those who really didn’t agree with me stop pursuing other people to destruction
Rather than improvement for you are actually the worse.Those who are really can’t participate with the business I do hope you keep it up that way. For a good business needs a good partner. Manufacturing car business wont ask a farmer to be their partners board of director , that’s the analogy . for those with a principle ‘ belum cuba belum tau’ keep up with it.
Good day. Let’s live in peace and healthy competition.
*yawn* boring. Farid, we have read and heard those over n over again. And, we have rebutted this over n over again as well. Can someone pls copy one of the earlier posts and paste it now? you have some valuable points there no doubt, BUT if you were to implement that in LB is a big NO NO. LB is pure of bullshit. It isn’t one bad apple, the whole basket of apples is bad!
Hi Anonymous,
you’re confused with LB_LB nick? Is that even an argument or rebuttal to LB being full of bullshit? That’s lame dude! Well, that’s not at all surprising. The fact that you’re in LB already shows that you’re a confused person. Wow, challenging somemore ar? what an idiotic statement! Is there a need for LB_LB to even accept such immature challenge? Thats how LB works i guess. Instead of INVITING, you resorted to CHALLENGING. Either way, if you can’t prove it here, what makes you think LB_LB should go to HLA? ouhhh i know…. with your group of friends there, maybe it’s easier to brainwash ppl i guess. Good try!
EVERYBODY, PLEASE STAY AWAY ANYTHING THAT HAS GOT TO DO ABOUT LB AND SYN! PLEASE SPREAD THIS TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND RELATIVES! DON’T BE PART OF THE STATISTICS OF BEING CONNED!
THANK YOU…
Guys call 03 21619772 to complain about your so call scamming people business. I got this number from newspaper. Some MCA datuk is receiving the complain.
Hahaha… DCHL distributor, that’s quite dumb of you.
That’s probably your phone number so that you can brainwash them or threaten people, right? Lame!
Haha….”LB-for-Losers”…have u succeeded in any area of your life? if not…you do not have the rite to comment any company or product or even anyone as LOSER..because u are just talking about yourself..if you are Bill Gates..i have no say…if u r not..just shut up! give some constructive comments n logics and the REALT PROVE! not screening on the net!…no matter how this topic go on…it will never end….and for your information…whether u like it or not…..LB is stil growing…..why not u gather everyone and lodge a police report. If u have the guts….if u can catch all the LB people…i selut u…if not….don act heroes trying to be one inside here…..dont just have a hand that types..do something….obviously…you guys are really square minded! wasting time…haha….let me know if you manage to catch all of them…..wahahhaha….i will wait for the newspaper….
UGLYflower, why is it that people involved with DCHL or SYN always have to point out that people that don’t make it are failures? How do you even define ‘failure’? Someone that can’t set up any business? Please, the world is larger than just that. Bill Gates wouldn’t even call people failures, and stop comparing people that make it in DCHL with Bill Gates. Bill Gates is way out of your league. At least he came up with something NEW and INNOVATIVE, was RISK taking, and MANAGING his business well. That’s a true entrepreneur, as opposed to…. robbing other people’s money.
There is thus something ethically very wrong about the whole DCHL MLM, since it doesn’t put any restrictions on recruiting partners and the product comes in second (from what I have heard and seen). Basically, you need to make money from your own friends and family or whoever you recruit as partner. That’s not acceptable to me.
Once again, stop calling people failures… if that is the only argument you have for people that are actually trying to raise awareness about an issue, you’re a failure yourself in the sense that you fail to see that there are always two sides to one story. Have you ever thought that the arguments that you are making (witnessing the fact that DCHL- people are using the same (lame) arguments over and over again, as if you have no autonomous intellectual capability yourself), are only reinforcing people’s thought that DCHL/SYN is a bad thing and you might come across as merely a fool?
Hey UGLYflower,
I suspect you must be a retard. Or perhaps some down syndrome over-aged kid? Whatever you are, your sense of knowledge is somewhat amazing! Well the fact you’re bringing about successes in life…hmm… regardless of what success that i have had, i am very sure your only success in life is being a LB/SYN Member. What a way of redemption or rather, what a consolation to yourself. I sincerely congratulate you of your only success in life a.k.a LB! So when you’re earning 5 or 6 figures a month or when you become a millionaire via your LB cheating tactics, don’t forget to Reward your grandma who spoonfeeds you everyday and also your sister, for changing your diapers 3 times a day. Good luck pal!
FOR THE OTHERS, PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM LB OR SYN OR WHATEVER NEWER NAMES THAT THEY MAY USE TO DECEIVE YOU. LB TO DIE. SYN TO DIE.
well… well.. well.. erm.. ‘LB-for-Losers’.. nice nickname… and u use that name because u hate LB isn’t it???? and I use my nick ‘anonymous’.. because I don’t want people to get to know me… so..erm?? what make u thinking that some one with nick ‘LB_LB’ ha???? isn’t it for someone who like LB???? or maybe it for someone that already being cheated by LB???hahaha that is just slip from my mind if u tell me your nick name LB..
challenging statement????..is that an idiotic statement????… not!!!! even I never learn that from any school in this world!!!!! the idiotic statement is that when u refuse it!!! u chicken out… rite??? and what u think u are???? inviting u???? what???? u think u are some kind of second bill gates???? hello!!!! this is a business…. and if u’re not taking the challendge.. how am i suppose to invite u hah???? u know what… actually I hate pushing someone.. because me myself hate being push by someone(to get into sumthing) and u know what every business have their own secret of being success… and to write it all down in this blogs??to share sumthing with u LB-for-loser… I don’t think so… do you think all the successfull businessman will share the secret with you without knowing who u are???? of course not!!!!!!!! that y u must see them personally… y u are shifting the statement??? because u want to get rid of it… face it man!!!! weather it is a challedge or invitation… the point is???? do you afraid to go???? or are u chicken out????
I’m not a pro.. neither a member/partner of LB but I’m one of their user… it not that I don’t want to join them… but the fact is that I just don’t like MLM… that all… but the product itself… it far away okey.. and I ask u to come…yes… because theres a lot of people there that will assist me to answer all ur stupid questioning… because as I already stated that I’m a pro and I’m not one of their partner…
….long time no see…
good work Lb_Lb…shame on u la Jack ass, ops sory, JS..haha..
hoi..anonymous, the name of Lb-Lb can be considered as an issue here ah??? the people’s name also can u raise as an issue, why, all the pointless dumb message, u have already finished, copied n pasted up there????
to all anti lb out there, im stil with u guys, even outside there, there r only, 1 anti Lb member, all the stupid steven yeam’s coolies will be afraid of us…
Dun wory,
here, 1 of my suggestion to all my fwens, makes a proposal, distributed the copies, to all people about this unethical bisnes, ask them to stay away from this bisnes..
if u one of the person who is beong offended, makes a police report, tell them about ur stories, dun be afraid,
all LB losers out there cannot do anything to u..
plz do this, to help our family n friends, to stay away from this bisnes
Hi Anonymous,
Your arguments have way past the level of idiocy. Congrats, you have just escalated yourself to the level of Stupidity. Super dumb faggot man. What are you trying to say? The nick with LB_LB means support LB? Dumb man. I rest my case. If LB has such members like you, this just shows the sort and state of mentality a LB member has. Good job. Keep it up! Ey don’t waste time here la, go cheat people lar. What you doing here talking about professionalism? Again, what a faggot!
hoi LB members out there…
all of u are damn stupid more than a cow…
go and searching ur product first , do a reasearch about ur marketing plan before u saying something stupid here..
it just shows ur stupidity, and ur dumb knowledge about the bisnes…
all of u are like ‘split up to the sky and falls on ur damn ugly dog face…..
dis morning i wen to da cash and coverters, at ampang point, selangor, …
there…i saw ur precious oil, haha…u know what, they sell at RM 73…i repeat 73, 73…..instead of RM 237….
u can go there and check la,if u dun believe, dun try to defend anything before u see it first, damn stupid….
come on la wei…
nobody trust u guys now…..
menghua please post this okay, just for the good of many people
well, here i would like to share u my story, about 1 years ago, i was still a student at one of a quite reknown universities at
Malaysia and i’m an indonesian. One day, one of my friend tell me about an intereting offer , i thought it was something like a part time job, however i was wrong. After my friend ask me to see “the office” then i know what is it. It was quite interesting for me since i’m a bit naive about MLM, n i trust him as a friend so decide to join, the week after. However, when i had join as a member, i start to doubt regarding this MLM, coz when the first time i join it, they said is okay to start from the franchise with the cost about RM 1200, but i realize then, that it was just a bait, they actually looking for the 36K investment. They will use all the tactics to make u fell ashame, depressed, not a team player and etc if u dont do the further investment, such as do a promise infront of the audince during one of their “talk show”, they said it was part of the commitment. Almost every single day, they (not only my upline)keep asking me when i’m gonna invest the 36K, during the meeting they like to pressed me by saying that i’m a coward since i havent invest it or i dont have a guts, commintment and etc, that was the reason why some of the student will go for a loanshark. I was really frustated coz at the other hand, i cannot ask for their help to “persuade” my target if i was just a franchisee. after 4 months there i decide to leave, i just work a normal rest as a part timer where at least i can save some. i had enough experience of being lie to myslef and to my friend about how happy and blessed i’m to know about SYN (they will force u to clap or show the happy face infront of the t
(they will force u to clap or show the happy face infront of the the new target), beside i also spend more money by joining SYN cos they have this event like NDO, Party, IME etc (which i suspect that it was the way for the leader to earn the money since they charge u like RM 100 for each person to attend NDO with a bad lunch but we forced to say that it was reallyyyyyyyyy goodddd). If one of their member ask u to join the party, well actually is not a party, and is not fun, it was just one of the way for them to promote the item and praise the steven yeam and company by a stupid yel yel and they charge u not cheap(believe me please). You will be ask to stay until late just to talk further regarding the business and ask to listen for the sharing until u fell guilty if u want to leave (very clever rite). Well as the time goes, i finnaly get back to my normal life and about 1 months ago, i saw my old friend at the food court in midvalley , he used to drived his BMW that he said he get it after working in SYN, well we had talk since he used to be one of my close friend, n it was great since finnaly we can be talk honest to each other again especially regarding our opinion about the business, he initially a nice guy. A lot of fake that happen when i’m still a member there. Then i ask him is he still there, he said he still a member and he actually had sold his car since it was under loan and he could not afford to pay it (his upline forced him to buy to impress his target, like me hehe), he said he got no choice since he already spend a lot at syn and might consider leaving it if he continue his study in US later since he tired being chased by his upline (we are under duke joshua, i think the SYN member recognize this guys), well thats all about my story, hope will give u a consideration before joining the LAME BERGER, cheers
similar situation happened to me….
they force me to join, by cheating me, they signed the money back policy agreement, so i cannot get my money back, if i want to, i have to follow, alots of procedure, and this must be done with the the present of the marquis, normally Lb members will signed this form for u…
simply because, u dont know about the money back policy, and u will working so hard to search for your downline…
eventhou im been victimise by this people, im very proud because my upline cannot rely on my downline, once i know i have been cheated i stop there…
my upline only can work for 4 people down him…if this 4 people cannot achive anything by becoming barron or count, they cannot being promote to the another level….smart enough huh!!!!!
if nobody enter to become Lb member, the 5-6 figures man there cannot get any income, even 1 cent…funny2…
i get 1 infomation that, normally if u invest as a francisee, ur upline, will get RM500-700 according to their rank, if u invest 30k they will get 7k more or less, no wonder their income can reach up to 5 figures, if 1 month they can cheat 2 peoples to invest a count position, rM30k, they will get 14K…
but this happen until when???
if u wanna live like this, have a lots of money, by making trouble on people and live in afraid manner, go ahead… no body will stop u guys, but u have to remember, u have a family, ur mom, dad, sisters, brothers, ur wife, kids, if this happened to ur beloved one 1 day, u only will realise, belive in KARMA man…
to all
thank you for sharing with us!
Anynonymous, You can go eat shit and die now!
LB & SYN TO DIE!
Thank you for the outburst Rudi and Victim. We understand and feel for you. Lame Berger? hahaha good one!
To the other LB members, what else have you got to say now?
good sharing from our fwen VICTIM N RUDI….
all Lb members, shame on u la…
ur face is like shit now…haha
well i just hope for the best, coz u know, its quite sad to see that if majority of the college student will leave what they had study just for being a full timer at MLM company, the country will be lacking of a professional worker then, This the things that those SYN suckers never think of
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All the faggots NC, JS, Ejam etc etc… and espcially that faggot retarded Anonymous, who couldn’t even give a nick to himself… Now all of you can shut your big mouth, take a pee and see your own blardee cheaters’ reflection of your worthless doggy face! Shame to all of you! The conclusion of such long debate is too obvious. LB & SYN or whatever is a pure scam! LB to die! Move on guys…move on!
STAY AWAY FROM LB!
Please educate all your friends and relatives and anyone at all. When the buying stops and when no new members join, these cheaters will then suffer!
Well, therefore we need to inform these youngsters especially the college student, since they were the most “wanted person” for this LAME BERGER rite now, tell ur friends to check out and read any blogs or opinions regarding SYN from the internet, dont do the same mistake like me and the others, coz i think most of us joining becoz we just believe in our friends, but its not their fault, the company make them had no choice. i still remember last time one of my leader even use a dirty tricks by making one person that they targeted feel being lefted by their friends if they not joining and since most of his downline is a group of students who are friends with each others, so if there any one of them left the company, he will tell the other members to expel/squeez him out so it will make him/her feel lonely and guilty hmmmmmm (thats why i really hated this guy, well i dont want to mention his name). Therefore i feel pity if i read or heard about a college student who had become the victim of SYN, becoz i know their tricks, they will said it was for your family, ur moms, ur dad, your love ones, so lets sacrifice now (by loan money to invest accont, 36K) so at the end u can make ur family proud. Well, actually there still one question that i hope any SYN members can answer me, i just wanna ask u, since all the great duke and mq always said that SYN is the way of sucess, you should be blessed to know this opportunity, its the only way to get a flexible time that most people dont had when they still working and etc, i just wonder, why there is still people who work as a accountant, beauticians, receptionist, counter attendants, transporter at the SYN/DCHL company ?why dont they just work as the others full timer ?better income what and they know this opportunity long time ago? any SYN members can answer me ?why none of u targeting them ?u see them everday rite in the office
i juz freakin hate all LB member..they r all suck up 2 stven yeap..all of them r cheaters..they put all their heart in making steven yeap become much richer..n betraying their frens trust!!
korang yg silap,plan LB mmg ok korg yg x ok..
dah taw plan tu mmg blh tlg anda sumer berjaya knp x teruskan
klu cabaran pertama iaitu tempuhi cabaran hutang pn dah mengeluh baek mati jerk….
aku pn mcm korang gak join xberjaya pd mulanyer
tp aku kuatkan semangat dan sekarang aku berhenti keje bt biz ni full time
korang yg bodohhhhhhh
korang hanya taw mengkeritik sahaja,btnyer tidak
bodoh melampau2,lg2 yg bru join 2bln tp xder seorg masuk dah mengalah
cuba lah teruskan jer.maner taw bln depan blh pegi jauh….
korang bodohhhhhhhhhhh
Warga-LB,
I am surprised you managed to distinguish what’s critics and praises. either way, what tokking you man??!! go read more books la! Bodoh!
My name is Ban, i’m 19, from KL..Few months ago, I was called up by a high school friend of mine, a girl. She invited me to SkyBar for a drinking session, it’s her friend’s birthday, she need a company, so i did company her.
When I was in the party, there are lots of people, I’m not so cautious about it since I know most of them.
Then one of my friend came over to me and tell me they are all from Lampe Berger, then only I knew why I was called up.
I was really interested of knowing this so-called-successful busisness. I’m a very curious person, I like to learn as many thing as possible. So they invited me to go to their company next day. I agreed because I heard alot of people telling me it’s a scam. I need to investigate the truth for myself.
I wore casually, my hood and stuff and went to their building in KL. I saw lots of youngsters like me, 18-26 wearing suit and all. I’m impressed to be honest.
Then in the building, the girl show me around and start telling me the product. I’m soooo impressed because I knew her as a girl that couldn’t study much in high school and had really bad SPM results. She can’t even go to college yet she can explain to me in details all the products description.
So, we went to some coffee table(which is all over the place with all those smart looking people seems like discussing big business) and a group of 2 girls sat with me and start showing me the plan and all. Not gonna go in details since everyone here seems to know that.
I really thought it’s a wonderfully crafted plan. The plan will works IN CERTAIN SITUATION. I’ll explain why later. So I acted in an agreeable situation. They persuaded me to join and they even handed me the form, I filled it up to make it looks believable so that they will show me even more.
Then they started to show me all those so-called-successful people(don’t know it’s true or not) to talk to me and persuade me even further, they tell me stories of their own and stuff and even ask of my ambition. I’m a graphic designer, as a designer I have my very own strong opinions and ambition and wont be easily startled by words. And I did not join at last and stop all contacts with those friends at all.
It seems to me the teamwork that they have been talking about is the way they team up and persuade(or brainwash) people’s mind. Don’t get me wrong, I do believe there are people out there get rich because of LB because this plan is awesome.
PROs
Why awesome? You just need to have lots of naive, greedy, do not know much about LB kind of friends and You have the superpower to persuade(or brainwash) them and yeah, maybe a little hardworking persuading(or brainwash, again)people, YOU will be able to drive the BMW or benz or whatever.
You will get rich eventually, seriously. but…..now to the cons
CONs
Well, out of 10 of my friends knows about the plan and all of them said is a scam. I won’t agree about it as a scam nor disagree…not now…
Now, you see all 10 of my friends said that, do you believe that I can succeed in this MLM business. I doubt it.
Ok, that’s just me..
Imagine, you joined LB and you ask your friend to visit the company(i was told it’s forbidden to tell your “prey” that you are going to bring them to LB office because they say it will ruin your chances to lure your “prey”), and then imagine 8 out of 10 of your friends said NO, and you have wasted almost a month or half a month depending on how effective and hardworking are you. ok, how bout the remaining 2? Those 2 will visit the company but what if those 2 later heard about the stories and they rejects you? yes, it’s just waste of time, I know, you can try even harder, you got more friends to persuade or maybe you are lucky one of those 2 is greedy and paid RM2345 to join, consider yourself won a mini-jackpot! yay!
STOP!
How bout the other 8 or 9 friends or yours that rejected you?
“Who cares about them? They are just bunch of losers that losing out in such a good oppoturnity to get rich.” that is exactly what you will think. and from there, try evaluate yourself, where do you put your friends in your heart?
I’m sure it’s below MONEY in your list. Money goes first.
It is true that money plays an important part in our lifes.
But losing friends that way is such a pitiful way.
You hurts your friends. I’m sure your friends felt they have lost you as a friend. They won’t answer your phone, they won’t ask you out for drinks or clubbing or just meeting up. THEY WON’T because you ruined the friendship because of LB.
Okay, some might don’t mind their friends are LB but for most, they are very wary about LB people and they try to avoid as much as possible.
Now, you say, “So what, I don’t need those poor friends, now i’m friends with rich people, Steven Yeam is my godfather *ahem* you know. Yea, we can ROCK Singapore!”
Personally, I rate LB people as soulless human. Human that is so blinded by greed is soulless. You know what, when I lay my eyes on LB people, I felt they lack something, and I believe they lack of LOVE.
Yes, you may argue, with money, you are respected and adores by lots of people. Yes, you may argue again, “they love me for who i am.” but REMEMBER they love you because of your wealth. If I ask you, eh, how many more of your high school friends still contacts you? I believe you’d be ashamed to answer that question. Even if your family that once hated you for borrowing money from them to join LB will love you too.. BUT They too love you for you wealth!
And so I heard of this Sentosa Beach party they had in Singapore in 2006. Over 10k of LB personnel were there. Amazing right? Yeah,but i’m really curious… I can’t imagine how does it feels like looking at 10k of LOVEless, SOULess people. I just can’t imagine.
It’s a very long post, I know but I need to finish up with my conclusion…
CONCLUSION
I truly believe this is a do-able business. YES, if you are cruel, would sacrifice your lifestyles, your friends, your family, your job, your profession.
Imagine, after 5 years in LB, you succeeded and got lots of money in hand, LEGAL ones. But after 5 years giving up your profession, the job that you worked as after you graduated from University or college with degrees and all, after 5 years, I believe you have forgotten what you’ve learned for your original ambition. You can only remember the figures and numbers on the MLM plan. The RM2345 and the percentages!
Now, I believe people from LB are aware that if people keep talking bad about the company and then soon less people would join the company. As money don’t flow according to the plan, the company will crumble or SYN will crumble. But yes, those already earned lots of money have many reasons to laugh but put the above imaginary human into this situation where the company or the network crumbles and they will all be clueless filthy rich people. What they gonna do next, is everyone guess. But next thing you realize, you have lost your friends and families, all that is so important to you before joining LB has gone.
Lastly, I would like to talk more about myself and why I’m expressing all these..
I’m just a normal graphic designer, I dreamt of getting rich, driving sport cars too but my earning will not possible provide me that. But I love my job. Everyday I do a job that i love to do. I don’t have anyone talking bad about my job, I don’t have anyone arguing that this job is a scam in a blog like this one, I don’t have to hurt my friends, I don’t have to lose my friends, and this is my life… and i’m proud to tell people that I have a proper job that i really love..and I can say my life is…..
S A T I S F Y I N G
I’ve new business.
Prepaid card businesss.
Have variety of cards.
To join, pay me Rm 2.5K.
To open francais, you need to pay me Rm35K.
You’ll only recieve 5 Rm50 cards worth Rm250.
This what i call business.
remember, Rm35K is for francise…
p/s: think…
ey Krazl, very good business what. I heard this business can make you alot of money, u know? can drive bmw, u know? can have 5-6 figures u know? financial freedom oso, u know? No good ar this business? 2.5K to start oni what, can easily borrow from friends lor. franchise 35K oni?? a piece of cake la, can easily cheat all our hard earned parents’ money or bad to worse, borrow from Ah Long lor. Very easy what. Won’t die wan, in fact, the return very fast wan! Come lar, krazl, lets join la. Cheating is way of life!
HAHAHHAHAHAaaaaaaaa!!!!
FAke, fake and fake is the way that the LB members living their life, get rich but soulless and lonely, life full with lie and pretending. I’m not a LB members, but this was a confession of my friends (MQ YO) i even put his name, this was true my friends, is u LB people familiar with this name ?
an honest person wudnt join LB juz 2 get rich by cheating on other ppls money…LB ppl r not an honest ppl..no wonder ppl dun wanna be frens wif them..they only frens..r OTHER LB MEMBERS..n their mum who still luv her stupid child.dun make ur parents get involve wif LB.. it is a SIN..
banana8388
i agree wif u…
u give such a gud comment
kau 2 yg bodoh WARGA LB YANG BERJAYA…
ko pegi kat cash n coverters ampang point, ko tahu tak ktne??? ataupun kau ni memg bodoh tak tau nak membaca…
harga minyak haram kau 2 di jual pada harga RM 73 ..aku ulang RM 73, sebab kau ni bodoh…steven yeam 2 jual kat kau ngn harga RM 237 kan, aku tau kau dapat diskaun kalau kau ni baron @ caout @ marquis, tapi setinggi mane pn rank kau, kau boleh beli nagn harga RM 73, cam di jual kat cash n converters ampang point 2 kalu kau beli kat HLA buliding kau 2 ???
aku rase kau anal steven yeam la…mungkin xpayah bayar RM 73, die boleh bagi kau free je….
kcufregrebempal> thanks.. I’m just expressing my thoughts after losing so many friends to LB. Not that my friends are bad person or what, but I think avoiding them will be better for me.
Plus, they betrayed my trust on them. I had enough.
What LB have done to people is more than anyone could imagine, tearing families apart, tainted friendships, bf and gf argue because of LB etc etc. The scamming they did is just like other scamming activities.
To all those LB wannabe, please be aware that this business is not a good business anymore(it’s never a good business anyway).
LB’s name is tainted and black listed among the societies, all they telling you is how u gonna earn tons of money, it’s easy, just have to find friends to join. Yes, it’s really easy, it SOUNDS easy actually. But try to think, u’re risking Rm2345 in a business unlikely to be successful nowadays. All the success has been achieved by the up-up-upperline when everyone is not so aware about this scam. It’s difficult business, even u’re really greedy, it’s just a gamble. STAY OUT OF IT. To those who wanna bring them down, just stop anyone from joining, spread the news, let ppl know, let ppl aware. Sooner or later, they will fall. It takes effort but save the cheerleader, save the world…ermm..i mean, save ur friends, save the world
Why are we all telling that they BRAINWASH those ppl who comes to their company because it’s true, i experienced it first-hand myself, their tactic is confuse u and convert u into a greedy man/woman. IF they still can’t convince u, they will start bringing ppl to tell u that they does this business to support their families, want their parents to retire early, all those sad stories hoping that it will concides ur own situation as well, hoping that u’re facing the same problem that they “HAD” before(which i doubt it).
They are playing with ur mind and I think it’s illegal, it’s just like hypnotizing but in a clearer state of mind. Although i’ve never been to their seminar(need to pay, thats y
) but i believed that some of their seminar includes mind manipulating. In fact, i believe while they teaching their personnel the psychological part of this business, at the same time they manipulate their personnel’s mind as well.. confused?
Figure it out, it’s just a simple mind game.
This is just part of Lampe Berger scamming system, well, they claimed it’s not scamming and they got approval from the PM of Malaysia but I doubt it’s all clean. I smell something fishy behind the political scene.
woi ahli LB dah g belum cash n converters ampang point….
all of u lB members’s are loser
what a good comment from our fwen BANANA8388,
1 day all LB members will realise that they have nothing, only their fairy tale stories and dreaming…haha
why not we just check out the product is it really work?
i heard it’s from france, so i try check out http://www.lampeberger.fr, it really there… this site proven have the correct info by french embassy
i duno la, but i believe the product…
notes: i’m not part of the LB YET…
if you believe the product, then just go buy the product from off-the-shelf. You can try the place antilampberger suggested.
The key focus is to boycott that LB & SYN! LB to die!
We are boycotting the company not the product. Don’t go and waste your money
Hehe… so funny things had been happen n happen from past till now.. maybe there R some ppl dat jealous of other ppl success.. but juz wanna ask 1 question.. how many ppl in this world? how many of them r rich? i think u better find out about it then u’ll now the exact amount.. dis for ur information oso ma.. u still study ma kan? Hehe.. if success is easy then why there is only few ppl done it? success is not an easy thing to do.. to success there will have many lvel b4 being success.. of coz have de hard time,de tired time,de sad time n etc is de stage n a MUST!! but all prob dat exist r made to be solved.. am i rite? kite fly bcoz it face up de wind.. think bout de meaning..
ooo yeah.. n 1 more thing.. about de capital? hurm… is there any rgulation in de company dat said u must invest 36K to start dis biz?? is there? F.Y.I dat 36K is to make ur prcntage higher.. for example.. if u open a shop then i ask u to choose either u open it in some place which rent only RM2500 per month or open it in Bintang Walk Which cost u RM10000++ per month? which 1 do u prefer? de rm2500 or rm10000++ place? both can give u profit n u can choose bout it.. but i think u oso can calculate which shop give u more profit maaaa…
so if there’s ppl dat haven’t know bout de marketing plan yet better u dont talk about it.. y im talking like this bcoz why student always thinking, try to understand , learning n memorized it when their teacher talk about something n teach bout something? bcoz their know that their teacher have more knowldge then them..
So my suggesstion for all of SUPER NEGATIVE ppl out there better u go n find someone dat can explain all of this thing to u.. u all R always welcome to learn about de marketing plan.. N F.Y.I we didnt hope dat all of u will do the biz.. but we juz wan to make ppl understand bout de biz n be NEUTRAL.. K?
bUBye..
DAMN! This Lampe Burger as known as LAMB BURGER was currently a suckest MLM thing i ever heard! What! RM2345 for juz the member! BASTARD!
what! i meet him he only told me that he was a MLM from others company..and i told him, what company u are? He juz simply said 1 company that named “OS??? OD???” i tell him all my marketing plan and he said he wan noe more.. is this call stealing our idea??? DAMN la.. Somore said their product good.. what good??? Still need to waste a 3 dollar for juz buying the lighter! WTF? still nvm la..but when we light up the fire..u can noe how dangerous is it! Can hurt our finger! can burn the home..and probaly, it has Pollution environment! oh god!! DAMN~~~ i juz noe this company was freaken hell! Others company like “AMWAY” “ELKEN” “AVON” are more best then this!
Lampe Berger Help:
Tell me what your company got? Steal information from others MLM company? i used to do another MLM company! But 1 day, i found a guy and he said he interest in MLM of the company that i do! But, when i told him the marketing Plan! He told me that: “If others company marketing plan earned money was higher, would u like to join?” wow..then i only realise that he is a bastard that wan to pull me to his Lame Berger co. from mine MLM company.
To reply on MQ ACHAI’s comment,
You are wrong to compare LB or DCHL’s MLM marketing plan with opening a business, HELL, you guys don’t even want to open a business because you guys are lazy bastard that wanna get rich fast by scamming others money.
I have got to know the marketing plan myself by confronting and hearing and gone through all the brainwashing and the conclusion… the plan is a bloody SCAM!
The formula, ur upperline or partner asked u to join, u pay up RM2345, then u ask more ppl to join and they pay the company RM2345 as well then all the money start to divide and be given to the upper-upper-upperline.
It’s a bloody scamming cycle that will seemingly never end.
The upperline is getting richer, the downline is working harder like slave to ask ppl join whereas many ppl aware that it’s a scam. In the end most of the downliners will quit soon after they earn back their RM2345 which they realised has been scammed.
No need to defend ur marketing plan, please. It’s so bad that i wanna puke at it.
MQ achai,
juz wasting ur money to buy your oil…people ou there think again…
i know, u r marquis, but how much do u gonna pay for 1 liter eucalaptus oil…rm237 rite?? yes i know, u can get discout, 40++%…
but a normal person, no need to become MQ, can but it at the price of 73…
haha… so cheap ur product ma….
r u don have any dignity, and shame at urself….
all LB members are more n more stupid, stil dun realise that, ur bisnes is not a good bisnes,
hey, try to search any ethical bisnes la man….
Hi MQ Achai,
I try to understand from your perspective, but i really cannot reach my ass to do so. The way you make your comparison makes you a person who really qualifies as a LB Member. Just stay in LB and be RICH ok? Any attempt to make you understand or to leave LB will only be futile. All the best Achai. Btw, don’t forget to scratch your steven Yeam’s balls later ok? Have fun!
LB & SYN to die! hahaha!!!
Anymore retarded faggot LB Supporters here?
Bring ‘em on!
haha..
anal steven yeam la LB members…
thats the easy way to get rich…
No matter what..Lampe Berger was suck…they said can smell and make u a good sleep…make u cant runningnose..cant cough..cant sick…tthis la that la..but..my dad used to bought last time.. once i smell..i told my parents:”This was crAP!” what a stupid smell! what a waste of money!
If you guys wanna make for health, just drink something that it is healthy, example: Orange Juice la… or go buy the product selling that was good FOr Example: Amway products…
eh, eat was better than smell u noe? u eat the food and u can feel not hungry. but u smell the lampe u can feel more hungry and so cant even wan to eat!
i prefer eating the product that was healthy and i believe many of them works! however! Smell this product(Lampe Berger) will just hur my life! destroy my body! That is wat i feel! SucK!
Why dont we just buy a RM20 perfume or fresh air stuff to put at our home?For example:Ambupure(u guys noe?) that smell nicer than the RM200+ product!
Well2, Anti LB (reply to other anti LB),
This proof 1 major thing. You all r just a bunch of competitors interest fools from other MLMs!!!!!. Coz if there is major leak hole in LB system for entrepreneur lik other pro LBs it will definitely destroy the network & the company way early ahead before you all numb nuts start to type a single letter in this page!!!!
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Definitely, Consumer Affairs (the real one not the fake 1) already sue DCHL! You dont see 1 thing here ! Let me explain, YOU anti LB – in actual fact YOU anti the people.Did the system of network marketing created this? Or is just the upline who failed to respond to the responsibility and only interested to the creditability on the system? Dont get it? Here let me simplify it.
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If there is a responsible upline in every single MLMs act on the actual network marketing and bare responsible of the company’s objectives and follow the guidelines of the company’s policy. This dispute on the system will not happen.This means downline have to communicate well with their uplines. (Does this apply to you)
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The product is definitely from France. Manufactured & packed in France.Well I cant deny there is people sell their lampe in Cash Converters & is only RM63! I know the person who sold it. He (He is not a LB member) told me it was purchased from some Marque in Penang back in early days, some where 7 years ago. FYI, early days Taiwanese brought in LB and Taiwanese marketing plan aka direct selling. After Steven Yeam came back from HK, and revive back our marketing plan to network marketing aka global marketing. You may say it just terms that LB use to fool ppl’s eyes but do we? Or is just ppl scare of asking loans from close ones (to start of a business?)
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Example: person A from a direct selling company want to start of a business in MlM..product A cost RM1900+ (easy payment available) He may not capable to purchase to do demo to ppl & make ppl confident in him but HOW does he start off then? With the help of his UPLINE, he borrowed the product and persuaded his close family to purchase instead! ( In your mind is PRODUCT MAKE BELIEVE! But in LB mind is PERSUADING make CONFIDENT result of TRYING! And for ANTI MLM’s mind is BOTH ARE FAKE!)Which are you?
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Thus this remain unanswered and you all here keep twisting fate around & around & hope there is eternity happiness in wat you all pursuit in. This is wat we call Escapade of Reality!. There is hundreds of MLMs company out there but there is none who pioneer in multi racial and bringing France’s luxuries to Malaysia except LB. You may see as the market has no place for this product and IF WE DONT CREATE THE MARKET WHO ARE THE PIONEER THEN? YOU? I DONT THINK SO! You all (who are in MLM industry) are just merely a follower of 20th/30th generation of your pioneer, THAT IS WAT YOU CALL PROUD OF? We are only 8 years in the market and has created hundreds more millionaires coz WE ARE STILL IN PROGRESSIVE PIONEER STAGE ! LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE! This is wat WE SHOULD PROUD OF!
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AND SHUT UP, LB_LB and anti lambe berger malaysia!! Dont say or type something stupid and make a FOOL out of your self! Although YOU feel SO PROUD of your self because YOU ALL are using nicknames but in ACTUAL FACT you are just from another MLMs and just wanna provoke a dispute images on others MLMs company. PROOF ME WRONG!!!!
Wowowow!! NC! NC!
you are definately wrong..!
Although i am from others MLM company..but i respect the others MLM company! Their marketing plan was great! Their things was trustable! but for LB! omg! i really cant explaine tat kind of stingy smell! What?! you think you guys 8 years in company was very very PRO? what i tell you is..your product of your company was definately Expensive! and so your company earn much! and for the 1st 8th year! What goes to your company? 8 year only there were few billions complain around the world! Looks at others company! i did not even heard any complaine yet even do, there were just little!!! What you talk about up there you said is true? well, 1 question! Are you a LB or DCHL company MLM distributors? if you are, how much you earn and did you use the product everyday? if you are not, then tell me the reason why u so like LB and why don you join???
to Anti LB,
what’s is your company selling?? is it cheap?? is the product is confirm good ?
How much actually u earn from your MLM company per month? since you ask the quetion to NC. fair for others to known also…
for CM..i juz cant tell u the product of mine MLM is 100% works..but it was good! saved many people life as they proof it! and i didnt mean lampe berger product sucks but i mean it totally crap! how can u smell something to get u healthy? just noe that we can smell till die.
then this is the answer you wanna noe
I earned 3k for my 1st month.(now is mine 1st month only)
Maybe u think that i am a crap tat juz support mine own MLM company..
but no way man..not like this,…
i am 18 years old now! and what i wan to told you was:
I am looking for an MLM job since i graduate form 5!
I go to find as many MLM company to hear about the product!
and i noe it was good!
then the way i think was..AMWAY..ELKEN…HerBalife..Totalife..and lots lots lots..
i used about 8 month to think about which MLM company i am going to! the 1st MLM company i put out was not Lampe Berger but is Amway..yyea…lots of us heard about that before! one of the world greatest MLM company… then recently..i heard alots of bad news of Lampe berger! and the way of the member fees was DAMN DAMN high… so tat was no way i joined in…
So..the choice of mine was thinking of 8 month! and i wont tell you what company i am doing..maybe 1 of the company i list there..maybe not..
And when ppl told me LB sucks..i dont really think so until i tried it..omg..tat was true..the price was expensive… when i burn the bottle it was dangerous… oh..i thinking if people burn the lampe berger were burn his home out or not.. and our atmosfere were been destroy by this crap man…sad~
i totally agree what Anti LB said..
others company product was trustable..
but LB..no way..
buy a RM20 Ambipure put at my home was better than buy a few hundred dollar crap
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Bout stingy smell? It shows tat u hav major sinus prob, bro. Check wit ur ENT specialists.You talking bout respect? Do you really understands ur marketing plan well? Yes ur 1st month was overwhelmed, but do u still