lampe berger? bullshit!!~
hmm.. i got test tmr.. but still not finish studyin it yet… not in the mood for studying i guess.. duno y.. slept at 7.50am this morning.. cos chatting on phone with gf… y? bcos some stupid fella trying to con her into lampe berger MLM thingy.. which is already proven is a scam.. her fren brought her for supper last nite.. n then with whole crowd of lampe berger fellas… n then.. huh.. i’m really impressed with their tactics… they asked her to drive their so called new car… BMW 5 series… n still she only found out its a tactic after i told her… its quite obvious when someone trying to talk u into some kind of multi level marketing thingy… n then telling u that he or she earned duno how many k’s.. each month.. n now.. he can afford to buy a new car.. wah… BMW 5 series… are u impressed??? wana join??
i managed to find a lot of info about this lampe berger thingy.. n yes.. its a scam.. something like those thingy that u light up in a room.. with the smell that can cure ur sickness… bullshit la… i even found a clip from HK TVB where those host went into the company to investigate wat the hell is it.. n then.. they even bought the lampe berger n test it in the lab.. it is said that the lampe can produce O. atom after burning it… n then.. then the atom.. O. combine with our oxigen.. O2.. it produces O3.. which is our ozon.. which can filter away all those harmful particles in the air.. n the results from the lab came out that the lampe cannot produce a single shit at all.. wana watch? there are some studies show that these kind of things is harmful to pregnant womens also.. not in the clip la… TVB clip.. cantonese.
y i’m so pissed off? i duno… i just dun like those ppl scamming other ppl’s money.. with all kind of bullshit.. if u really wan ppl to join something.. b honest.. at least let ppl know wat the heck is that thing.. the fren asked her to go to the company tmr.. which i insisted her to reject the fren.. but then.. they still have the strongest tactic.. claiming that they are ur fren.. hard for u to reject them right? so after hours of trying to reject her fren.. the fren ask her to go to the company to c wat he is doing all the time.. AS A FREN… bullshit.. really bullshit.. we’ll c wats gona happen tmr.. my gf promised me that if something turns wrong.. which a lot of other ppl in the company interupt to ask her to join.. she’ll just leave the place.. from wat i heard.. those ppl in the company will try to poison u.. saying that they earn how much money each month.. quit their job bcos this lampe berger is earning much more than their own job.. n then.. showing their so called luxury sports cars… which u dun even know it belongs to them or not.. they just rent it mayb? LOL…
friends… friends dun force their friends to do anything… friends are suppose to help each other when in need… not forcing u to go to the bullshit company n listen to bullshits.. wasting ur time.. what i saw in forums… those ppl who brought their frens into the company for bullshiting.. they are not frens anymore.. for example.. the Ecosway thingy… started by my fren in utm here.. approached me.. i say no.. that’s all.. no more topics about it… that’s wat i call frens… if someone say no to u for this kind of business… just stop it.. if u really felt that he’s ur fren.. no point of ruining a friendship bcos of something u think u can earn money from but he dun.. that’s a true friendship..
Updates 22 April 2007 – Malaysia’s Security Commission had listed out an alert list of scamming potential investment programs at http://sc.com.my/ . Lampe Berger was listed in the list but then was removed after a few days. What happened? I don’t know. And yet, newspapers had news about this fraud investments and LB is listed in there as well. So guys, those who kept on cursing around in this post comments, can you give us some reasons why LB is listed in those list? 🙂
menghua
An engineer which have a lot of interests in gadgets and technology stuffs. The blog varies from life events to gadgets reviews and hacks.
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kicik
hey…dun juz make a statement like a loser…lampe berger is a bullshit??im confious…mybe the person who said so is damn bullshit…!yeah….!2 sym team,close ur eyes n ears 4 this short thinking people…adios..n ol da best!
GaLin+ve
MLM~~~??aku pnah reject bnda ni 3 tahun yg lepas..sbb apa..aku ingat benda ni mgayakan org atas..then aku sambung study..n yg paling best..pada semester ke 3..aku jumpa lg benda yg sama..n aku msh reject..yala..sapa mahu buat biz “cari org”..surirumah jer yg blh buat..itu kata org lah..then..yg pling best lg..aku nampak..ramai budak2 grad dgn bjaya..tapi..tak dapat keja..ramai budak2 yg tkial2 mbawa diri n mganggur..apakah??n aku mmg agak ktakutan utk mjd salah satu dri mereka..pada semester trakhir dlm pgajian..aku dibawa lg ke tpt yg sama..n dtunjuk pluang..aku tbuka hati..then..aku blik buka internet..apa lg byk btl kutukan..masa tu..aku mmg sgt marah..n yg pling bestnyer..at last aku jd partner..knapa??sbb komen n kutukan ni jugalah yg mgalakkan lbh ramai org join..mana bis yg tak cari org..??tauke jual baja ayam pun yg dtg beli baja..manusia..bukan ayam..tauke jual makanan pun cari org..sbb yg dtg makan tu org..bukan anjing or kucing..org buka klinik haiwan pun yg dtg bawa haiwan manusia juga..sgt ajaib kalau anjing or kucing dtg sdiri ke klinik..universiti dibuka pun utk org bukan lembu yg dtg belajar..yg dtg belajar pun akan bayar yuran apa suma..kan ke duit org juga tu..aduhai..apa pula tanya org tak rasa bsalah ke makan duit org..apa slama ni tauke yg kaya raya bukan untung duit org juga ke??aku rasa bgus lg MLM dri makan rasuah..mgugut..mrompak..n ambil kantau dri org..wahai pbaca sekalian..mana ada benda percuma didunia ni??30K??buatlah rumah 30k utk disewa..tgok..jd ke x??kalau jd..bguslah..kalau takda dapur or bilik..or tandas..wat to do lah~~”brainwash”??sapa yg brainwash sapa??mmg myedihkan lah..kalau da tak mauk..cakap jer tak mauk..tak plu lah mauk tulis yg bukan2 kat sini..org just tunjuk peluang..kalau pun gf anda ke..bf anda ke dibawa buat biz..jgn pulak mhalang..yalahkan..takut2 pulak anda yg tadah tangan dgn mereka..tak mok join pun just support la..putus hubungan..putus psaudaraan tu suma tak blh salahkan sesapa..kalau da ditakdirkan akan putus..tak plu buat biz pun akan putus juga..jgnlah pulak marah dgn kata2 aku ni..sbb aku da pnah rasa suma ni..just utk pgetahuaan anda suma jer..happy2lah..tgok partner SYN suma happy2..sbb ada leader yg hebat n humble..kalau anda marah pun..buat lah biz juga..blh juga btanding biz sapa pling best n blh buat dgn happy2..bukan btanding sapa untung byklah..sbb anda suma kan tak mauk buat biz yg “MAKAN DUIT ORG”…sapa marah mmg loser..n tak dapat trima kyataan..hehe-KL-
ivy
memang biadap semua member2 lampe berger ni?????INGATLAH TUHAN TU MAHA MENGETAHUI&MAHA BERKUASA…………
biru
kpd yg baru nk mncuba2 nk bt bsns nie…janla brlagak sgt,ckp pun mcm dh xingt Tuhan…
kicik
wei…ssh la mnusia x phm bhsa tok..
boh d lalek org anti lamp berger..
short thinker nang camya..
bila mk maju..??kpd yg x tauk pa2 ya,beter shut ur mouth..
lamp berger x pnh bulak org..plek na..
pearl
sbnrnya LB ni aku Satu family dah join lar.. first aku dtg ingt nk tgk je tp kene cuci otak da..mmg mcm kene pukau. masa tu rasa mcm bkn MLM tp mcm international bisnes. lg dia suruh kita pakai kot, letak jawatan wat full time. aku invest 36.000 lar beli pangkat. masa tu dah kabur mata nk kaya cepat. aku sesal gak wat kptsn terburu-buru ni. lepas bbrp bln bru aku buka mata. yg markis2 diorg pun bkn untung sgt pun. bole kira ngan jari la yg untung tu. tp nk wat cmne diorg ckp pun dah degar2. x kan nk putus asa. lg dah 3@4 thn kat situ x kan nak mkn gaji blk pulak. tp aku x salahkn company la.. marketing plan ok. klu ikutkan company x bg kita beli pngkat. sbb tu bila kita nk beli pngkt. datuk nenek,pakcik kene ad kt situ sign. siapa nk wat bisnes ni bole tp kene hati-hati, jangan kene cuci otak. rasional skit
D'r
prdk lb ni memang ok sangat,cuma join lb ni boleh mengubah seseorang mudah lupa diri,lupa Tuhan dn lupa segala2nya…cuba kita renungkan kembali dlm diri kita,apalh gunanya kesenangan hdup kita ats kesusahan n kesedihan org lain,nescaya hidup kita tk akn tentrm smpi mati!!!2 blm lg hutng2 yg kta yg mungkin tak akn terbayar…kpd kekwn2 yang baru nk join,fkr2kan lah krna sy sndiri mengalaminya n semuanya ats kehendak diri sy sendiri….
solong
mmg bodoh sape yg msk lb ni psl nk kaye cpat lastly menganga psl x balik modal putus kawan kalo nk kaye cpat usaha buat bisnes bkn cari org dan memaksa rela mereka masuk lb hentikan kerja bodoh ni….
cokolalat
y r u guys so stupid??? they dont believe LB let them be la..fuck it la…all u have to do is prove it to them that LB’s true n good for u n them…if u guys have time 2 argue about this thing im sure u got time 2 think how 2 run the business…so stop bullshittin around….u guys r fucking stupid…
solong
bullshit lah what dcl taking people money show me how many person get average 50000 per month or be the millionaire except ceo of SYM AND SEKUTU DIAORANG
Tu la
haih korang ni..rileks k…hidup masih lagi diteruskan…
LB tak salah…mlm tak salah…aku ni ari ari duduk rumah dapat duit jugak…tak banyak la..sebulan tu kira dalam rm3000 dan masih meningkat dari bulan ke bulan…
lebih baik daripada aku naik bas ari ari kerja kerani gaji rm900 jer…kerja kuat macam mana pun macam tu jugak…tapi kat mlm lain hasilnya….
pada yg dah gaji tinggi tu, korang best la buli bawahan macam kita ni..korang ok la dah kaya…aku pulak macam mana…ari ari sembahyang lagi rajin dari korang yg kaya ni..tak ke mana jugak
jadi aku masuk la mlm…peluangnya sama jer…orang cacat ke..orang bodoh macam aku ke…boleh sekuang kuangnya tingkatkan sikit taraf hidup..900 ke 3000 dalam masa 6 bulan..ok la tu..dalam 5 tahun harap harap cecah 10000 la kot…
geng geng sekalian…dalam komen komen byk ni…yg kutuk tu i syak gaji dah 5k sebulan boleh la diolang kutuk..hidup diolang selesa dah..mak bapak pun kaya kot…
i ingat tuhan punya manusia..tapi kan tuhan boleh takat bagi tanah jer…hasil tanaman tu usaha kita jugak..kalau tak sepuluh tahun la pandang kat tanah tu..rumput jer tumbuh…harapkan tuhan takat rumput jer la…kita kena usaha..baru ada buah…tak salahkan tuhan..slahkan manusia yg hanya duduk tunggu buah jer..bila tanah orang lain ada buah..dia kutuk pulak..mana boleh macam ni kan..
geng geng gaji tak cecah seribu…kalau simpan duit n ari ari hidup sengsara…korang ikut la nasihat orang yg dah gaji tinggi yg kutuk mlm pastu apapun jgn buat…seksa la diri ko tu..
pasal agama dan materialism hanya dua care jer nak opinion kat sini…
satu tuhan nak kita sebagai umat manusia kena sentiasa memajukan diri…
atau agama tu satu-satunya media di mana ia dapat mengelakkan orang golongan miskin daripada memboikot/membunuh orang kaya…pastu tu dah kena tipu dgn khir tu sampai banglo dia berbilion…hah yg kutuk LB tu mesti sokong khir tu..orang kaya kan..jaga bontot sesame diri…
yg kaya akan terus kaya dan yg miskin akan terus miskin…pilih la jalan anda…klu anda malas dan pengecut walaupun keturunan hang tuah..haih buat malu jer…tak nak tingkatkan taraf hidup anda…kena la pikir anak isteri jugak…budi mak ayah bila nak bayar…harapkan kerja jer mana cukup..lain la gaji dah tinggi pastu datang sini kutuk mlm…gaji diolang best la…gaji aku 900 jer tambah overtime n part time..tak cecah 2500 pun..skg melalui mlm, ari ari duduk rumah pun 3000…pastu i pun tak la duduk rumah…budi mlm kena balas jugak…umat manusia lain kena tolong jugak…
jadi minta maaf la kalau tersinggung tu..dan yg nak kutuk komen i ni pelbagai words yg haram dan jugak dah KAYA…i alu alu kan..tapi geng geng macam aku yg tak pernah cecah seribu..i minta anda pikir pikir dulu..
pearl
kepada ‘tu la’. i percaya kalau you kata you dapat 3000 sebulan dan semakin meningkat. tp i x percaya bila you ckp duduk rumah hari-hari. maaf lah beb tak ada benda dalam dunia ni yang kita tak perlu usaha dan tak perlu berkorban untuk dapatkannya. bisnes ni bukan skim cepat kaya atau pelaburan saham.
ayat you dalam komen tu i dapat agak you sebenarnya baru je join dan baru je dapat untung. jadi you masih panas lagi. i percaya kalau you dapat kekalkan ‘api’ you macam ni berterusan i gerenti you mesti kaya punya lah. sebab bisnes ni memang boleh buat duit samaada kita sanggup korban atau tak, itu je point dia.
lagi satu tak payah lah you rajin sangat bukak forum ni dan tengok berita-berita negatif macam ni. umpama bunuh diri je.
tak setuju dengan apa yang i kata? kami dulu pun macam you juga. saya setuju dalam komen2 ni memang ada orang yang guna emosi tulis, iyelah ada yang tak pernah join tapi dengar cakap orang, ada yang takut, ada yang dah join tapi gagal( sape yang akan salahkan diri sendiri bila gagal?)
so lepas ni jangan lah you duduk rumah hari-hari harap income you tu akan meningkat. saya percaya you perlu tidur 4 jam je sehari untuk berjaya. trust me
tu la
kepada pearl,
saya setuju dan saya tahu maksud anda…tapi i pun bukannya duduk rumah hari hari..maksud saya, mlm ni pendapatan pasif…tak semestinya macam kerja kerani i tu..kena ada kat meja tu hah baru ada duit…
tapi macam ni la kan…ada orang pernah tanya i jugak…betul betul dah 3000 tu apsal tak duduk kat rumah jer…i tergamam la kan…tapi macam biasa..dalam industri ni kan…adat bertanya tu memang digalakkan…jadi saya pun bertanya…bertanya kepada yg baru join..dah lama join…newbie la…pro pun ada…macam ni la..biar saya berkongsi jawapan yg paling memuaskan..
mesejnya macam ni..kenapa orang yg mula mula pi berjoging dan selepas satu tempoh…orang tersebut jadi sihat sebagai hasilnya…tetapi mengapa orang tersebut masih lagi berjoging selepas tu walaupun dah sihat? apa akan jadi kalau dia berhenti berjoging tiba tiba? adakah akan terus jadi sihat ataupun kembali kepada keadaan asalnya sebelum berjoging? pikir la persoalan ini…
dan jugak kenapa saya buka blog ini dan baca blog ini? ini kerana melalui mlm jugak saya belajar bahawa kalau kita nak berjaya dalam era ini…kita kena selalu berkomunikasi dgn manusia lain…kalau ari ari pandang monitor typing jer tak kan berjaya punya la..jadi di sini sume komennya datang dari manusia..pelbagai jenis…maka di sini jugak arena utk saya meningkatkan taraf diri saya…kan kalau nak maju kena bijak berkomunikasi..dalam ofis mlm i tu dah tepu dah i komunikasi…di sini lebih banyak orang..lebih banyak pluang nak majukan diri..
lebih banyak feedback di sini..lebih banyak halangan di sini..kalau dapat atasi halangan, dari situlah saya mula majukan diri i ni..macam hidup jugak..jgn elak halangan hidup pasal ia lah salah satu cara nak berjaya…masa mula berjalan, kalau tak jatuh tak kan tau berjalan jugak..kena jatuh dulu baru lah tau berjalan…macam pokok kalau dibakar, hasilnya arang yg lebih tinggi nilainya…pastu kalau arang tu ditanam dgn tekanan yg tinggi dan haba yg tinggi…hasilnya berlian la tuan tuan dan puan puan..jadi sekarang i ni anak pokok jer..tapi i faham teorinya maka di sinilah ada tekanan dan haba berupa komen dan kutukan yg boleh didapati…
Masalahnya ramai yg tak boleh tahan akan tekanan hidup sedemikian..ramai yg kecut…pasal tu la ada pelbagai komen negatif di sini…i pun cuba la tolong..mana tak nya….bayangkan ada budak yg tamak, labur duit 30 ribu, pastu satu jualan pun tak berjaya dilakukan dan pastu terus kutuk…haih naif tak manusia macam ni? macam mana sokong atau setuju dgn manusia macam ni? kalau nak buta buta sokong pun..i tak larat tau..berat hati i nak tipu diri sendiri..
Pearl, oleh itu saya sgt menghargai masa dan komen anda dan jugak kepada pemilik blog…terima kasih la..melalui blog ini jugak la kita dapat menyuarakan pendapat masing2…kepada yg selalu negatif..pikir la bahawa bayi tidak direka utk merangkak seumur hidupnya…kena la belajar berjalan jugak…anak burung pula kena la belajar testing kepaknya agar boleh terbang…jadi ni jer la nasihat i..tak semestinya dalam mlm jer…dalam hidup pun kena pikir nak maju…
dah tau
tu la;
ayat2 ko samer jer dgn ayat2 yang aku dengar mase aku terlibat dgn Amway, terlibat dgn Swisscash, pernah sembang2 dgn member aku yg hardcore CNI (aku byk diexpose & hampir join), pernah di’brainwash’ oleh agen2 Uptrend, Lazaa, termasuk yang terbaru dgn member aku yang join DCHL nih…
ayat2 falsafah ko ni lebe kurang serupa, saling x tumpah…jujur aku cakap, x tipu…utk bdk2, student2 hingusan, boleh la nak citer camtuh…dgn aku, aku bantai gelak jer…aku dah rase semua tuh…aku dapat rase, ko ni pun baru sebenarnyer…
aku respek Amway & CNI…mmg ade fraud, mmg ade flaw, tapi diorg betul2 jual barang…mmg nampak jelas flow barangan diorg di merata-rata…DAN MEREKA ADA BANGUNAN MEREKA SENDIRI, bukti yang mereka mmg kukuh…anyway, aku dah x terus lg dgn Amway, simply sbb aku x aktif jual barang & jumper org…mmg boleh untung cara lain dgn Amway nih, tapi aku x nak buat…duit haram, sampai biler pun idop x berkat…
aku musykil DCHL nih…
1. korg x register langsung atas nama DCHL, sebaliknya atas nama RZ Corp…WHY….??? kater company International…??? even Amway & CNI pun daftar atas nama diorg sendiri…
2. mana annual report DCHL/RZ Corp…??? mana kami nak tau, money-flow DCHL..?? mana report jelas berapa sale, berapa asset, berapa revenue, berapa operation cost…??? even Amway & CNI pun ade annual report…korg kater korg international…???
stail DCHL ni mengingatkan aku pasal Lazaa & Uptrend…stail marketing yang sama, cara persuade yang sama, stail ‘push’ yang sama, cara psiko atas nama (nak tolong kawan2/naikkan ekonomi melayu) yang sama, syarikat jer yang lain…
aku cumer nak tanyer korg yg pro-DCHL/LB ni la;
– kalo la DCHL ni bagus sgt, kalo semua kene join DCHL, kalo yang x join DCHL ni semua LOSER, saper yg nak jadi kerani..?? saper yg nak jadi technician..?? saper yg nak jadi doktor..?? saper yg nak jadi tukang sapu sampah..?? saper yg nak jd polis, peguam, bomba, askar..?? SAPER…??? adakah semua2 org2 ini LOSER…??? kalo korg sakit, korg pegi jumper saper, doktor atau upline korg…??? kalo korg nak report kecurian, korg pegi jumper saper, polis atau upline korg…???
– If all the one who not joining DCHL is LOSER, does that mean all people who work in ADMIN, IT, SECURITY, FINANCE (clerk, officeboy, technician, accountant, supervisor, etc…) in DCHL/RZ Corp should be consider a LOSER too..?? dont u realise, the LOSER doing the job for u to process ur pay, application, order, maintain the DCHL web…??? are they also a LOSER to u…??? if all going to be DCHL businessman like u, whose gonna doing all the administration thing…??? whose gonna process the application, process the paycheck, maintain the facility…???
setiap orang ade peranan masing2…kalau seseorang itu tukang sapu sekalipun, dia bukan LOSER kalau dia jalankan tugas dia betul2…
yang LOSER adalah budak2 otak tamak nak jd kaya yang percaya ape sajer ckp Upline korg hatta utk meminjam wang yg byk & sanggup menipu kawan2 baik sendiri DEMI DUIT…& this should go with DCHL too…
kpd pro-DCHL yg belagak citer beli keter baru la, dapat lima angka la, aku cumer nak bgtau, aku dah byk jumper manusia2 macam korg…aku tau sgt bkn semua yg korg ckp tu betul2 ade…kalo korg student, korg pk la elok2…mak bapak suro korg blaja jd org yg berguna, bagi duit pinjaman utk belanja korg kat tpt stadi, bkn utk join MLM…nak join MLM, nak rase perit-jerih suka-duka MLM nih, join lepas korg abih stadi & guna duit sendiri, bukan duit pinjam…jgn terpengaruh dgn puak2 MLM mase tgh stadi nih…aku dah masak dgn perangai org2 MLM ni…pd aku, orang2 MLM yang kejar student2 adalah org2 MLM yang PALING CELAKA SKALI…TERANG, JELAS LAGI BERSULUH DIORG BUKAN NAK TOLONG KORG, TAPI DIORG CUMER NAK SEBAT DUIT PINJAMAN KORG…jangan terpedaya dgn ayat2 manis diorg…aku tau la, sbb aku pun dulu student gak…
kesian aku, ORANG MELAYU KTA CUKUP SENANG KENA TIPU…jadi lah usahawan yang sejati, jangan jadi con-man…
tu la
kepada dah tau,
memang ayat ayat saya generic…sama seperti kawan kawan ko yg ko cerita tu…memang la kiri kanan ko pergi ayat dia kira ada persamaan jugak..memang betul..ini kerana kita belajar daripada satu sama lain..benda benda macam ni bukan pasal mlm jer..falsafah hidup jugak…kalau ko tak setuju, maksudnya anthony robins, jim rohn, zig ziglar, kiyosaki dll sumenya ko tak setuju jugak la tu…benda benda personal development ni penting..kalau tak tau ketinggalan la kita nanti..
dunia perniagaan bukannya mengenai siapa yang ada ayat yg unik..bukan pasal dia jer hero boleh berjaya…ia berkenaan dgn teamwork, financial achievements….
dan kepada u i nak tanya…kenapa u sendiri pernah join pelbagai mlm tapi akhirnya tidak setuju dan tidak berjaya?
dari situ nampak sgt ko nak cari peluang baru pasal, rezeki dan bakat anda di dunia pekerjaan tidak begitu memuaskan betul tak?
sekarang bukan salah bisnes…peluang sudah diberikan kepada anda..faktornya diri anda jer..saya mengaku saya kerani jer, tapi saya kerani yg rajin..lepas bertahun tahun kerja..tak ada penghargaan dari bos ataupun rakan sejawat..sumenya pentingkan diri dan nak jaga periuk nasi diolang jer..tak kenal langsung maksud teamwork… dibuli, ditipu dicon lagi ada la..
sekarang kenapa ko tak teruskan jer biznes pertama anda? kenapa nak join banyak banyak? satu dah cukup…
saya percaya downline anda ataupun partner anda sekurang kurangnya dah ada pencapaian kalau mereka stay…
mungkin masalahnya anda tak stay, tak buat, dan selalu mengeluh dan sentiasa berpihak kepada kegagalan daripada kemenangan dalam hidup..
kalau tak caya, tgk diri anda masa anda menaip komen tersebut..puas hati tak dgn pencapaian anda? saya puas, saya tak beli kereta fairlady ataupun ferrari macam biz partner lain…tapi ari ni saya cukup makan dapat melabur dalam ASM tahap maksima 20,000 unit…lepas 7 hari nanti, kalau ada lagi baki dana..boleh beli lagi 20,000 unit…tak semestinya nak kereta jer..tapi apa apa pun itu hasil usaha mereka biarlah apa mereka nak beli…semuanya benar, tak tipu, mana nak sewa kereta ferrari hari hari tunjuk downline lain lain? tak mungkin kan?
jgn pandang kat tuan ferrari tu macam dia tu sombong la, kaki tipu la..tapi pandang dan ingat bahawa dia adalah orang yg dah berjaya dan berita baiknya kalau anda minta nasihat dia..dia akan tolong..bukan macam orang kaya dari industri lain, dia ludah kat u ada lah..pi minta nasihat kat doktor..dia tunggu peluang ko sakit nak bedah ko ada lah..
kepada yg lain, komen dari DAH TAU berbau perkauman..bukan saya tak setuju..tapi kurang lengkap…
macam ni la, lebih lengkap punya..dunia ni ada dua jenis orang..satu manusia yg sentiasa nak majukan diri satu lagi macam mana punya tanya la DAH TAU…dia mungkin berpengalaman..jadi TAK KIRA BANGSA, mesti ada nilai kemenangan dan kegagalan dalam hidup. anda nak berdiri di pihak yg mana satu?
Jadi masalahnya sekarang bukan agama, bukan biznes, bukan upline, bukan student ke, bukan loan 32k tu…semuanya sistem yg adil dan ada peluang nak berjaya..masalahnya kat manusia tu sendiri…tak caya tgk balik zaman persekolahan anda..mesti menyesal macam aku punya..aku pemalas dulu…sekarang dah insaf…tapi dah terlambat untuk berjaya dalam dunia pekerjaan..tak mungkin jadi manager…terlambat dalam dunia professional, tak mungkin jadi doktor, jadi peluangnya hanya di dunia perniagaan..
masalahnya di diri manusia..ini bukan hal mlm jer but mlm tambah personal development yg korang tgh kutuk…kalau tak nak maju takpe. tapi jgn la menghalang peluang orang yg cuba untuk berubah…macam i, kalau i dengar kutukan mlm sumenya, tak kan boleh ada chance i tidur dgn senyuman lebar malam ni pasal terpikirkan pelaburan saya dan jugak masa depan saya yang tiba tiba cerah…
kepada DAH TAU, mesti sume ayat ayat di sini anda pernah dengar betul tak..biar saya bagi tau satu perbezaan, anda cuma tau jadi tak ada hasil,…tapi saya tau, saya buat, dan sekarang saya tgh menikmati hasilnya. tu jer…saya percaya bekas bekas upline u tu sumenya berkaliber..masalahnya kat u tu jer..takkan satu dunia ni yg salah tapi korang jer yg betul? dan kalau ko tak setuju jugak..fikir diri ko dah berjaya, bagus untuk ko..saya pun hapi pasal saya pun ok jugak sekrang…
dan untuk sajian pembaca, boleh tak ko macam aku, berkongsi kekayaan dan mengajar orang lain macam nak kaya…sanggup tak ko ajar orang lain nak kaya? ataupun biznes/perkerjaan u akan terancam kalau ajar?
tuan2 dan puan2 inilah keindahan mlm…
p/s: ekuiti dah labur…lot lot bumiputra is next..see u at the top (haha, kpd sekalian jgn gelak iye dgn ayat power ni)
bolong
kepada DAH TAU tunjuk dulu financial statement dchl berape shareholder die ape forecast business diaorang silap silap ahli sendiri x tau al maklumlah terbuai dengan kekayaan hasil mlm .Satu lagi soalan kepada yg dh berjaya korang punye income dari jual barang ke cari ahli yang lebih banyak kalo cari ahli lebih baik masuk politik weh lagi kaye berjuta juta!!
amontre
Kepada yang dah Kaya Raya,
Cakap mudah dan murah..tunjuk lah apa hasilnyer. Aku duk dengar cerita sama berulang kali, kereta pun sampai sekarang tak nampak2..asyik duk tunjuk kete Upline dia jer, bila tanya mana krete ko..skang cakap tak suka dah…nak invest property plak.. apa-apa lah..
amon
kepade yg teringin nk kaye, jangan mengalah walaupu in the end nanti kamu kecewa kerana apa yg upline ckp bohong belaka
pearl
hi, dah lama i x komen dalam forum ni. i bukan la pro’ LB atau anti’ Lb
tp i nk komen sikit la pd korang. i tengok korang ni suka komen guna emosi. please, tujuan kita kt sini bukan nk negatif, kita nk kongsi pengalaman yg kita lalui dalam LB, sebab i tau ada kwn2 yg nk join bisnes tu, byk yg akn kaji dulu. jd sy harap kita matang la sikit. kita boleh ckp kita x setuju dgn LB tp jgn jd budak-budak. sy pun x setuju juga. sy harap sesapa yg nk join LB tu. fikir la dulu. diri tu mampu x? risiko tinggi. org ckp x de bisness yg x berisiko dan org yg x snggup tggung risiko org yg gagal. ya betul. tp kene fikir juga risiko yg kita nk tggung tu berbaloi ke dgn diri kita. sound great is it? sampai korang nk tau apa itu LB. sy alu-alukan korang pergi tgk, cuba, alami, tp please jgn ambil 100% dlm hati sebelum korang kenal bisnes tu betul2. jgn ulang kesilapan mereka. ( yg dlm komen ni ).kt sini sy bg tips kepada yg nk tau pasal bisnes ni
1. pergi survey, ambil komen yg positif & negatif,-timbangkan
2.langkah kaki dalam kompeni,(klu kwn ajak ikut) tp AWAS jgn terpedaya
masa ni korang akan jd kabur, kagum dan mudah dipatahkan sebab masa
ni la dioorg dlm kompeni akan patahkan korg.diorg dah pakat ramai
dan sedaya upaya akan cuci otak korg sampai korg rasa ini lah
‘MASA DEPAN AKU’. pesan aku rileks jgn terburu-buru.
3.jgn terus join, bg masa 2 minggu atau sebulan.datang lah hari-hari.
believe me diorg akan push korg letak duit/deposit.korg akan dapat rasa
ada ‘SOMETHING’. kadang2 ada partner yg akan ckp kasar. diorg akan
teman korg tel kwn utk pinjam duit (menipu-korg x kan dibenar ckp nk
wat bisnes-tp diorg ada alasan knp)jgn percaya
4.semakin lama korg x join. partner akan mula sisihkan diri dan perli2.
5.nk melabur boleh. start dr yg bwh.
tp ingt sebaik je korg letak duit 2000 tu. lepas 2@3 hr diorg
akan push korg letak 36.000 pulak. diorg akan sedaya upaya. bw korg
pegi sharing. masa tu ramai lah yg hentam korg. pesan saya jgn mudah
terpedaya. kaji dan fikir lagi. ini MLM je berbaloi ke labur byk tu.
ada duit? x pe. brg dpt korg boleh pakai, brg ok berkualiti, puas.
x ade duit? diorg akan teman korg pinjam (menipu lg)TRUST ME
6.selepas 1 @ 2 bulan korg x melabur Lg? diorg akan sisihkan korg,perli2
dan diorg x kan bw partner baru sharing dgn korang.WHY? pikir sendiri.
7.lg satu korg perhati lah. diorg ckp ini bisnes sendiri2. upline
dowmline dipanggil bisness partner. tp semakin lama korg dlm kompeni ni
korg akan nmpak dekat sudut ni marquis ni tgh marah partner(downline yg
lembab), dekat sudut sana upline dalam Tel tgh tengking downline.
kt sudu lain pulak sekumpulan marquis tengah kumpul bincang apa
yg diorg nk wat dgn partner yg konon diprg nk tolong sebab lembab sgt
nk kumpul wang/tak ajak org lagi. situasi ini mengajar diorg x hormat
org lain lg sebab income dirg bergantung pd downline. kata bisnes
partner/bisness sendiri tp x reti hormat org.
8.ini serba sikit TIPS i bg kt sesapa yg nk join bisness ni. x salah nk
cuba dan nk berjaya. sume dalam tgn sendiri tp. jgn terburu-buru,buatla
keputusan yg betul dan jgn mudah terpedaya. selepas korang dah ikut
TIPS ni dan rasa mampu nk langkah lebih jauh silakan sebab masa depan
korang dah depan mata. kalau tak sanggup, jgn cuba, jgn terpedaya.
menyesal nanti. korng tau korang mampu tau atau x? dgr gerak hati.
please jgn ignore hati kecil korg.
9.kadang2 kompeni betul tapi orang yang dalam kompeni tu yg buat x betul
kerana nk kaya cepat.
thx..
FallenNaked
eh. .burger?
FallenNaked
it wouldn’t matter if people gain profit by working their ass off. Lies? Prank? sometimes i do that stuff too. means that up to the person to decide what they want to take, if it’s true than good for you , if the opposite happen then blame on your own sorry ass.
Anson
Hi all,
Firstly,i believe on MLM but i don’t believe on the people who distributed this LB business & products.Who ever was joined this LB they at first will try to convince you to joined as franciase but after u joined they will forced you to fork out RM36K to take the count rank but in fact the upline was never told you regarding to the count rank before you joined !!!
What the hell,afterward those upline & sideline try to insult me that francaisee rank is just nothing the most impressive sentence they ever told me is :”if you just join as franciasee u better go out work la because the outcome are nothing different from makan gaji outside!!!” and i will never forget this sentence….!!
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Don’t you LB guys feel shame when use the phrase “business” to describe this everything?Don’t you guys know the most important thing to a business is “TRUST”?Please don’t use the phrase “BUSINESS” when you guys can’t even give the basic thing “TRUST” to us!!!
Another bullshit i have heard a lot from LB is that no need to sell anything in this DCHL.Whenever u come to a business there must be a buying&selling process occur in between otherwise it is not a business!!!
The biggest flaw on LB marketing plan is allow people to buy the rank which means u invest the money yourself for the 4 virtual baron rank account under yourself. when come to this circumstance?Meanwhile,if you simply doing the same at Amway you will be terminated your membership with Amway because your downline are not making any sales and the they will do the investigate for that.(I am skeptical whether DCHL aka LB are just “one eye open,one eye close”)
After all,it just not sound any good for us as a prospect to joined under DCHL group…
Declare: i am not a anti-LB and i am believe on MLM business also but seriously this DCHL aka LB is too far away from my own interpret from MLM
LB
LB have no involve in here. They are famous brand in Europe.
The fact is DCHL, MLM or whatever business or organization do u guys work for which just franchise of LB and other product.
They’re running network system to distribution without retail shop and other tax or rental fee. Using ur guys for a “salesman” and give u the commission. Exactly the same with Network 21 or Amway or so many kind of network marketing like this around the world. They have good PR n Marketing which attracted all of u get in that business. But depend on who u work with, good or bad. Then u might hate or love it. Every business is always CHEAT to survive and growth, however, cheat with ethical n unethical is different.
So DONT BLAME the BRAND, think about who you work with???
Anson
It is not the brand matters!!! It is your whole systems problem what the hell your marketing plan allowed people to invest money to buy up the rank?? I want to buy Platinium rank at Amway,please buy for me!!
Somemore LB membership fees also expensive like hell compare to Amway i just need to pay RM75 can sell their 4xx different type of product.Listen carefully 4xx product!!!
Amway founder Richard DeVos also a one of world billionaires according to Forbes.So LB,what the hell are you with your founder Maurice Berger?In terms of reputation,LB still have much more room of improvement!!!
perin
jual murah, stok minyak pati pengewap Lamberger, 50% off, berminat? contact [email protected]. (for your information i bukan agent atau pengedar, dan bukan ‘pro’ DCHL,)
humanbeing
from my experience..
kalau LB ni betul, kenapa ahlinya perlu meminjam duit sana sini? bukannya sikit2.. tapi beribu..
sanggup bergolok gadai semata2 untuk LB..
orang2 bawah susah payah meminjam sana sini.. orang2 atas semua goyang kaki.
I cakap based on pengalaman my sister..
bukan makin senang, tapi makin susah.. kerja separuh mati.. kononnya nak carik network..pinjam sana sini..
muka pun dah tak malu nak pinjam duit kat org..
sanggup paksa orang buat loan , pinjam duit, gadai barang kemas..
apa semua ni..?
yang peliknya tak de plak pihak berkuasa ambil tindakan???
kalau dah ahli tu mmg la mempertahankan kononnya depa hidup senang.. 5 figures income, luxury car..
tp hakikatnya semua menipu…
macam mana nak sedarkan mereka yang masih belum sedar.. kesian budak2 muda.. especially budak university.. semua terpengaruh semata2 kerana kemewahan…
tu la
la korang ni…
i tgh ok jer skrng…takdela teruk sangat macam yg korang kata…
Memang i pernah tgk mata sendiri, member join 30k tapi bisnes tak laku…kesian dia…pasal tu pinjam duit sana sini..haihzz…
Yang korang ni pun satu…kenapa nak join 32k kalau 2500 tu ngam ngam ada dan halal macam 32k jugak…mula la dari bawah..tak kan 2500 nak pinjam sana sini dan gadai emas kot..duit beli kereta dgn hutang beribu sebulan boleh…haih…
kenapa nak join 32k? lantak la kawan korang tu paksa ke apa..duit korang jugak…masa aku buat 2500 steady jer sekarang..dah pulang modal tinggi tinggi gitu…mesti korang tamak punya pasal la..aku pun dah sound member 32k yg aku kenal…apsal tamak?
ingat buat wayang ke buat bisnes…dan kepada yg dah gagal tu…satu benda jer i perasaan, mereka memang malas punya kaki tu pasal…suruh buat sikit takut rejection la ni la tu la..masa labur tu excited…
dan manusia macam ni la rosakkan bisnes i…bukannya company atau member member lain…
To make things clear, how to perceived this kinda of ppl..to those english educated, from educated family, international students like…i ask u guys how u all perceived the people from goverment sector?
Mesti pandang rendah punya la macam kita dari rumah haram duh..hidup guna air bil elektrik free…kita ni pemalas…bodoh…dan dalam dunia internet bila kira boleh speaking ni kira bagus la tu…
Kira orang internet ni kebanyakannya english educated…poyo mat saleh la katakannya…saya tak suka bila bertembung dgn manusia high class sebegini…
tapi saya terpaksa setuju dgn manusia high class kuala lumpur ni bila kutuk LB tipu orang…orang government la yg join yg banyak buat loan 32k pasal senang approved dan kadar bunga rendah…dan banyak la orang government kecundang dalam bisnes ni…orang cina india seekor pun susah nak jumpa..malay jer banyak…
setuju apa ko tanya?…kita memang malas…pasal tu la…32k lesap tu cuma satu tanda balasan kita malas..kalau tak 32k tu lama kelamaan masalah duit akan datang jugak…mungkin bila kita dah tua..dah malas apa nak buat..takde ubat punya la
haih…saya kerani nak maju jugak…gaji tak cecah 900 malu duh…pasal tu buat bisnes..mula la dari 2500..jgn tamak 32000 tu..
dan memang manusia high class sini memburukkan LB…kononnya mereka high class dan gaji 3 ribu dah settle boleh poyo dgn vios atau city suka hon motor aku…memang mereka betul LB ni teruk la katakan…
tapi sanggup kah mereka high class ni sanggup ajar i? how to improve…as long as i know my boss onli know how to make me work ten times more than salary im receiving…if i listen to u guys here talk bad abt mlm, talk about being a failure n blame other ppl is ok…then how else am i going to improvise..? part time dont have leverage..u c..budak kampung like me oso know wat is leverage….
just hope that i can giv these poyo high class ppl a tight slap in the face when i achieved financial freedom n u guys still in rat race…
kepada geng geng sekampung dgn aku…kalau ada cara lain…tolong tunjukkan…merempit tu sume tak yah la k…lagi kena kutuk dari manusia high class ada lah…suruh i belajar tak la k…dah komit kat business dan otak i bukan jenis belajar pun…pasal tu kerani…tapi harapan ada lagi di mlm…
jgn tunduk kat kata kata orang bila kata u tak belajar u mengemis…mungkin akademik bukan dunia kita…mungkin dunia mlm where people relation and leadership comes above all technical issues adalah jalan alternatif anda…
tapi ingat jgn tamak…anda boleh jadi count dgn 2.5k jugak…n when u rch marquis that the time u changed ur life from living frugally to a better living….
i kampung i kerani…sekurang kurang nya i tak meragut dan merompak macam rempit lain..kalau la i buat gitu…i mesti cari mat kepoh kutuk lB dan rompak budak budak ni…korang jer rezeki i… n dalam LB i pun tak paksa…onli influence n persuasion…if its no then i wont push n thats how i made it..
so..to admin thanks again for this sharing platform…
tu la
Kepada semua yg baca blog sebegini…
Dalam google, anda type lampe berger…keluarlah dalam 7-8 blog macam ni..betul tak?
Pastu anda sume baca baca dalam komen panjang panjang…ada baik ada buruk, betul tak?
Pastu conpius blur macam mana ni? Nak join ada nak lari pun ada…
Macam ni la, tuan tuan dan puan puan…satu soalan jer yang merangkumi segala blog, comment la itu la ini la berkenaan isu isu mlm..
Soalannya begini, daripada segala komen yg kita dapat, ada dua kontradiksinya iaitu setuju dan tak setuju dgn LB betul tak?
Maka ada dua jenis manusia di sini…
Orang kaya dgn masalahnya iaitu ingin mengubah pandangan orang ramai berkenaan LB, mencari downline, membina bisnes, kekurangan tidur dan kepenatan kerana selalu ke event LB agair dapat memajukan diri dan macam macam lagi…
Manusia jenis kedua adalah manusia Middle and Poor Class di sini yg memang bilangannya majoriti la katakan dgn masalahnya sentiasa tak cukup duit, kutuk periuk nasi orang lain, suka focus kepada permasalahan daripada penyelesaian, takut untuk memajukan diri, mengalah sebelum mencuba, dan macam macam lagi…
JADI, kedua-duanya pun ada masalah betul tak? DENGAN ITU, anda macam mana pun sebagai manusia kena pilih salah satu masalah daripada dua pilihan itu…
Nak masalah macam jenis ORANG KAYA??
atau
Masalah jenis ORANG SEBALIKNYA??
PILIH la tuan tuan dan puan puan sekalian…kepada yg tak nak masalah tu, takde hal…i respect segala kebebasan anda memilih, tujuan i di sini hanya nak beri pendapat.
Tapi ingat…manusia yg sentiasa mengelak masalah dan enggan mengatasinya..manusia golongan macam ni la favorite SEGALA MASALAH DI DUNIA
p/s: ini adalah petikan comment dari port lain. for sharing. again admin thanks
humanbeing
Tu la.. i nak add skit komen..
ni bukan masalah nak kuarkan 32k or apa..
mmg permulaan join rm2500.. pastu kena carik orang bawah..then.. bila carik2 tak de org nak masuk.. mula la leader2 atas ajar cara cam mana nak “lompat”..
bila dah dapat cara cepat nak “lompat” mula la janji manis itu ini dgn orang2, sanak saudara, kawan2….
p pinjam duit sana sini registerkan tuk org lain.. then benda ni akan berterusan..kalo tak continue, maka mampus la network dan income nya..
kat situ yang salahnya… susah nak citer panjang kalo tak nmpk situasi..
main dgn duit ni..adik beradik pun boleh gaduh…
tak tau nak cakap macam mana..
dengar kata skarang ni LB ada problem kan? dah tukar pakat jual bebola dobi tu pulak? apa crita?
sapa2 boleh update news ni?
amontre
Goood loh…now we can discuss all sort of ponzi’s and cheating scheme here.. baguslah..camni yang kita nak…majulah orang kita 🙂
Mangsa LB
Hi all. This topic awesomely hot. Got responses from Dec 23rd, 2005 at 5:30 am until today I wrote this, Aug 20th, 2009 at 3:44am.
This is my story, I was one of the victim of this scam kinda business.
I’am suppose to graduate from University YESTERDAY but bcoz of this damned kind of business, I still couldn’t finish my study and maybe will take another one year and a half.
This business had turned my life to be miserable. I had been introduced to this business by my old friend from the same matriculation college. After I gave RM10k to him, I never see his face up until today and I don’t want to do it so because I really hate him now.
This business is really a scam. They influence people by using psychology. My mom told me that I was like a “another person” when I was asking money from my father. Last time I was so naive that had been cheated by my friend twice. 1st time when we met, he told me that the business only take RM2.5k for starting. I done thing that I hate most in my life to collect RM2.5k which is “borrowing” money. I borrow from few persons to get RM2.5k. After I had payed him the money, he gave me some products that I myself don’t really know that what am I buying. WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS IS THIS, SELLING PRODUCTS THAT CUSTOMER THEMSELVES DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE BUYING?. The word from his mouth, “To be successful, you just have to listen and follow”. F**k, the phrase always come from his mouth when I ask about something that I want to know more. At that time I starting to sense something fishy but I don’t know why, I was like being hypnotized. I still put my thrust on him.
After a period of time, he starting to say something about Count plan. He told me that many people in the business want to be a Count. But when I was asking him to tell me about it, he was like keeping it from me and saying that I’m yet not ready to hear about it. At that time I was really mad. WHAT KIND OF NETWORKING BUSINESS THAT HIDING THEIR BUSINESS PLAN? After I successfully convince him that I’m ready (I myself actually don’t really know am I ready or not), I realize that the capital to start this business is not RM2.5k but more than RM45k! The lowest capital to get to earn kind of 4 digits of income is RM10k. So I struggled to collect that much money. I only manage to get RM10k from my father as my father was extending his loan to buy a new car. Actually at that time, I just changed my course of study, I HAD NO STUDY LOAN! I have to pay to PTPTN RM10.5k cash to make a new loan because of changing course and now, I owe both, my father and PTPTN because of it. At that time, it was suppose to be better for me to pay PTPTN rather than giving him the cash.
After I realize that I couldn’t do the business successfully, I took a termination form from the office. If you terminate your registration within 3 months of the date buying the “rubbish”, you can get refunded but not 100% refund. When he heard that I want to stop, he bring a group of his partners come to convince me to come back to the business from his new comers to Marquis. They all come to my hostel like caring to much of me, giving motivation to continue the business again. THIS WAS THE 2ND TIME THAT I MADE A BIG MISTAKE. I suppose to terminate my registration but, at that time I 2nd time gave him my trust. I don’t now how I got “hypnotized” again by him.
Because of that, I was really frustrated. I could not study. My pointer result drop. I failed my exams and I can no longer focus on my study. So at that time, I had requested a postpone a semester from university. I had been working as a cashier in a pharmacy and at that time it was really hard. I couldn’t stay at hostel so I rent a room with Indonesian students. It went for more than 5 months. My mom was really shocked when I went back to hometown when she saw a bruise at my back. She was very sad. I myself don’t realize that I had it. It happen because I was sleeping on the floor. I didn’t be at hometown when Hari Raya because of working. I ate Mee Sedap with rice almost everyday. And sometimes only eat 3 pieces roti canai from mamak stall in a day because I didn’t have enough money to buy better food. I felt guilty and I don’t want to ask more money from my parents. At that time, he never call or sms me. I just got an sms that sound “Ble ko nak bayar utang aku RM400?”.
Now my life had change and become better. Because of him, I get to know one of my lecturer really close. He take care of me like his own brother. Up until today, I yet do not find any solution to solve the greatest problem in my life which is about money, how to get back RM10k, how to pay my loan RM10.5k, they money that I borrow from my friends and … What in my mind now is I want to finish my study first. I really believe that someday I will find the solution for all these problems I got.
For the conclusion, do not involve yourself in this kind of business. The company is truly an MLM kind of business BUT the persons doing the business had turned this business another way. Although the company provide the products training but they treat it as a dummy. What they want is the “system”. For me it is like A PYRAMID SCHEME HIDDEN IN AN MLM SYSTEM. For your information, after u have paid the money to be a count, you won’t get any income yet until you introduce or “scam” other to join under you. WHY WE NEED TO REGISTER OTHER 3 NAMES AS A BARON BELOW US TO BE A COUNT, NOT BY SPONSORING SOMEONE WHO WANT TO BE BARON THEMSELVES? By doing this, the people who get the most profit are the people who are above you, your upline and so on. THAT’S WHY THEY INFLUENCE YOU TO BE A COUNT. AND ALSO WHY THEY LIKE INFLUENCE GOVERNMENT PEOPLE TO JOIN THEIR BUSINESS IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT ONLY GOVERNMENT PEOPLE CAN DO LOAN THAT MUCH OF MONEY.
Some of pro LB will say that I’m a loser. YES I’ AM. I choose to be a loooooser because I don’t want other people to suffer like me. I don’t want to transfer my suffer to somebody else to become a “successful” business person like you all.
For the readers, think wisely before involving yourself in this kind of business !
amontre
mangsa LB,
Thanks for sharing, pengalaman anda mungkin dapat membantu pembaca membuat keputusan 🙂
miss erin
bkn semua org bleh buat bisnes. bkn semua org mindset bisnes. mcm2 pendirian kita ada. so nk tarik org join bisnes, cari la org yg mindset bisnes dr awal lg sng. diorg phm selok-belok. xperlu susah2 brainwash org mkn gaji join benda ni dgn melabur byk. commitment pun xleh nk bg 100% bila join benda ni. pastu skrg,mslh cmni la.gaduh sbb benda ni.sama2 melayu pun nk bergaduh.
amontre
there’s no sama2 melayu ke..sama2 cina ke..sama2 india ke..sama2 kadazan ke.. tak perlu dah semua tuh… 1malaysia 🙂
cibai kia
cibai lb !!!!
anti-LB
So, this shit company has closed down already or not? I hope they will stop scamming there.
caeeeeee
soooooooooo
apa cite terbaru lb nie… opis dia kat kwsp building di penang masih operasi ka????/
sesapa ada latest news tolong share…..
gimbaran
LB was strong
now even stronger
and will be the strongest.
kpd yg tia mo buat, jgn paksa diri. nanti mnyesal. pas tu cakap yg bukan2. ini tia ngam la, itu tia bagus la…
kpd yg rasa dipaksa buat, jgn buat. nanti salahkan org pula.
kpd yg mo buat, fahamkan bisnes, fahamkan sistem, buat trus. benda baik jangan dilengah.
p/s: pastikan join dengan orang yg betul ikut sistem.
pearl
hello, i dengar LB dah tak jalan betul ke? dekat DCHL menara HLA tu pun dah tak de org.. yang ada cuma myanmar dan beberapa kerat je. lagi i dengar cawangan dia yang ‘main’ kat Taiwan tu dah tutup sebab Chairmain dia ada masalah sikit dengan LB dan tak nak teruskan bisnes ni. lagi apa yang i tahu Mr Steven Yim ( orang yg bertanggungjawab bawa bisnes ni kt malaysia dan mengembangkan ia di asia-melalui sistem MLM )dengan Duke Ken(dari Hong Kong)dah pindahkan beberapa kerat “TEAM’ mereka ke satu bisnes MLM yang lain. I tak tau nama kompeni dia la.. apa yang i tau diorg ni jual barang kesihatan la kononnya boleh ubatkan orang Lumpuh. diorang punya “main” produk ialah Kerusi Urut. nak join bisness ni diorang kena labur semula RM 250 untuk yuran Ahli dan
RM 800 untuk produk lepastu barulah partner2 boleh dibenarkan bawa orang. Diorang beribu pejabat dekat bangunan The Weld Jalan Raja Chulan. Lagi apa yang i tahu banyak partner2 LB yang berputus asa dan tinggalkan kompeni lepas tu, sebab mereka tak yakin dengan marketing plan kompeni baru. (sebab income sikit).
sesiapa yang tahu pasal perkara ni boleh tak terangkan dengan lanjut sebab i pun tak berapa tahu sangat pasal ni. ❓
cae
laaa…. mcm tu pulak kaaaa… habis tu LB offce kat kwsp building di penang masih beroperasi kaaa????
Pasonia
I know I’m putting some thought into this before posting.
I have to say that when people are convinced that something will work, it will work, and likewise other things that they don’t feel will work just wouldn’t.
I really won’t call this scamming, but neither do I like all the levels in LB itself. But the fact remains; if even in Singapore the police did not call it Multi-Level Marketing (like what happened to Goldquest, for those who’re old enough or knew this happened) then perhaps there’s little reason to gripe about it. In any case, I feel the aromatherapy worked for me, and I don’t speak just because I’m a blind LB defender but because I’m more the “end user” since my mum is more of being the seller.
I’m not a man to work without getting my facts right, and there’s two things I’d like to say before ending this post.
1. I like LB because it has worked. My dad and my mum, all into their 50s, had their health improved at one point of time or another, like getting an eased-up blood pressure rating from constant use.
2. I don’t like LB, however, just for the business aspect. That’s purely because I’m not a marketing guy to begin with, and I am not sure what use there is to the constant seminars they have. The issue though, is that I wouldn’t denounce LB sellers because, no matter their objectives, they are actually selling something that works for myself and my family. The same goes for other companies like Bel-Air.
I would assume you, the poster, has not used LB before and are denouncing it purely for its MLM-like practices. If given the chance, try it out. There is no pure bad about this whole thing for LB, but that said there isn’t just good for LB either. Perhaps you could change the article to make it sound a little less condescending to those who did work their pockets, life and soul off for LB, and perhaps stop calling people con artists when you are acting purely based off of secondary sources (such as TV media) and are not a primary user of LB products.
biggie
If you just an end user, no need to join that shitty DCHL. You can just directly buy on ebay, amazon and any other market places that sell this products for 10 or more times cheaper!!!!
gimbaran
jgn blame kompeni atau produk jika anda tidak berjaya. blame diri anda kerana tidak bole buat.
pinoy
lamp berger penipu, buat rugi duit aku saja
anonymous
untuk pengetahuan semua…..
saya ada beberapa orang rakan yang telah join biz nih…..yang lucunya sampai sekarang belum mendapat downline…..ada yang suda mula menyesal kerana telah melaburkan banyak wang (40k wooo) untuk mendapatkan pangkat count & produk LB yang jika dibeli d ebay harganya jauuuuhhhhh lebih murah…o.k tentang kawan sorang nih,suda 2-3 kali menyuarakan hasrat untuk tarik diri tetapi setiap kali berbuat demikian,datanglah pula upline bersama-sama gengnya untuk membrainwash kawan nih….last² belum jd kluar smpai skarang….hmmmmmm….ntah lah….nasib baik sy tidak join dulu….bukan senang nak mencari downline dengan modal yang besar…huhuhuhuhu….bagus lagi buat rumah….
ahakz
meh sini aku nak citer plk..aku bekas budak syn dulu..walaupun aku x invest sampai 40k tapi aku da kuarkan 7000 gitu..aku memng menyesal la join MLM nie yg tah haper2 tah..dikaburi nagn bebudak yg datang pakai kot….pastu sampai par gurd kat bawah pon kene t-up memng menipu abisla…kalu kowang nak aku bawak kawan akau yg kadi penipuan SYN aku boleh jer…memng sesal x suda sowang
noname
after 4years, i still cant determined the rite or wrong of this sellin method. but im very sure that i hav spend around rm3000.00 to learned a lesson and know who is a real fren.
i was approached by a collage mate that lost contact for at least 5years in 2006. we used to very close fren back then. i was jobless when contacted. the rest of the story are more or less the same as published.
after i joined as franchisee, my upline n her upline refuse to help me to give “talk” to people that i wanted to get to joined as my down line. they keep pushing me to “buy” a count first before they are willing to help me. they refuse to help me when i got somebody that can buy a ‘count” immediately after joining.
‘working” lifestyle of these ’workers” is a bit strange as well. ‘working hour” start off in the evening like 7pm in the office then will move to mamak and hang till 2-3am in the morning. after a month of so with such lifestyle, when my money just keep goin out but nothin comes in, i left without bidding farewell.
when i refuse to answer call from my upline, she left threatening message to me and express how she “care” bout our ’friendship“ and so on.she refused to return a book she borrow from me and also some money of rm600plus. even i got my other fren to collect from her, she give us a no-show. so till today, i dare not contact her anymore and im still rm600 poorer.
i dun believed in this skim, i just wish her luck lah since she sees this “job” as a “god” to her entire life.
Dark Angel
well.. i cant finish all the comments above aft the few ‘fuck’ comments..
actually the LB product is very good.. my sis was an Ex-MLM member too, she was failed to achieve the millionaire bcoz she nv get the understand the product and learn how to bring out the goods of the product.. myself very hate those MLM ppl, but dun mistaken my word, i juz hate they keep ask us take money to join..
for me, very simply, LB is a product, i will juz use the product but wont join the MLM system, Yes, thr is example which is successful but is depends on how u work on it.. dun juz blame on the plan, as some of those said, no free lunch, u hav to work v it, not juz take out 30k to join thn sit n wait for rewards, u r suppose to sell the product of 30k not by keep ask ppl to take out another 30k..
so, do believe the products b4 u wanna sell it.. is the product make u a millionaire not the MLM plan.. dun mix up the PRODUCT and MLM system.. I LOVE LB product but not the MLM system.. sorry for the MLM supporter, juz to be honest..
Steph
LB is always the best product….
dk
hmm… joined lampe berger but never made it… but no regret at all… go to their office.. the experience is like “WOW”, its a culture of earning money…. saw some made it… but some people join and start getting angry when they haven’t got any income… hey there just no easy money man.. all the top upline and leader worked very hard to get to their level… and still work very hard to keep it.. its not a scam or anything.. if u think u can make it, u r ready to work hard, then join.. n u will be successful.. but if u not ready to work hard.. it just a waste of money… ^__^
ps:everyone will give a good speech just to make a good impression on the business or item he/she selling… awesome car, 5K income and all the stuff is true.. but hard to get… so there is no lies in that.. hehehe… and thats what keep some of them(franchisee) going.. until they reach their goal.. peace..